Guild Wars 2

New legendaries are coming ! I can’t wait to see the requierements if we need to salvage hundreds of gold of mats just for a fraction of the backpack…

BlkPrince.2854:

there really is no grind to getting the precursor its actually pretty fun if u just play the game like I did for the past year you would have enough materials to instantly craft ur precursor and the legendary

Lol

Nice try.

I spent my evening doing low level fractals and Orr events. There is nothing for me in HoT areas. Meta events are way too long.
I tried to do Leaf of Kudzu today and just to finish tier 1 and craft the first bow, I needed 450 gold. Seriously, you can order the pre for 717 gold, or buy it now for 799. I won’t lose my time with this bs and I’ll buy it directly from tp.
I don’t even want to start thinking about the next gen of legendaries. It’s going to be atrocious.

But the worse is WvW. This was my favorite mode, I was spending several hours/night roaming with guildies and we had a blast. BWE were amazing, new spec + old maps, it was perfect. And now, it’s all gone. Desert BL is a no man’s land.
Anet destroyed our favorite game mode, like they destroyed dungeons.

All they seem to care about is esport.

shroomduck.7548:

Is there somewhere where healing comes into play and has more of an effect?

WvW, and maybe spvp ( not sure though, I rarely play spvp).
Healing spec shines in wvw small group roaming.

TGI FRIDAY.6275:

Man you would have hated FFXIV’s Relic weapon quest.

Light farming /puke
That was a hell of a grind.

PvE in this game is all about DPS. If you want to heal other people, just add water fields in your rotation (healing turret, Egun #5, Mortar #5) and blast them.

You can easily farm all the mats to make your own ingots. Farm iron @ NW Brisban Wildland WP and Plat in Tequatl map. You can gather wood at the same time and sell it for extra money.
Good luck with spark !

Mesmer… lol no.
Guardian is the best for central Tyria open world content. Staff auto-attack gives me more loot than FT engie or whatever spec ele.

For HoT maps, I really enjoy playing scrapper. It’s so tanky and can deal a good amount of dmg with the correct setup.

Eval.2371:

When people are not challenged they get bored they move on anet loses out on someone that would be spending money in the gem shop its no different than losing you.

They would have moved 3 years ago then. People sticked to GW2 because it was very casual friendly.
I barely touched pve for the last years because I wanted challenging content. I played mostly solo/small group roaming in wvw. I still think it’s the only place where you can fully take advantage of the combat system and find challenge in this game, even with HoT and the new difficulty. When I see pve’ers using the “l2p” excuses while they sit in pve ( which isn’t challenging), I can’t take any of you seriously.

People stick in pve to relax. It’s so obvious. If you were really looking for any pve challenging content, you would have moved to another mmo. I could suggest FF14 and savage raids.

TexZero.7910:

It’s not about hardcore or casual. It’s about capable or incapable. Clearly you’re on the incapable of adapting, learning and improving side.

10/10 for your l33t arrogance.

Raziel.4216:

Or you want “everything now!!” with little to no effort.
Didn’t have to grind spiders to reach 100+ mastery, some of us just play the game.

I’d laugh hard if ANet would allow every player to attempt raids. Pretty sure lvl1 masteries would perform the same way, if not better than current lvl 161 mindless grinders.
Grinding =/= skills.
And mindless farming doesn’t requiere any effort. Man, you can watch netflix while doing this. Where’s the effort exactly?

It’s just content gating. Something I though I would never see in GW2. If I want content gating, I’ll go back to FF14, where instanced pve is 10 times better than here.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Honestly if you don’t have at least 4th tier mastery of every line by the time raids launch then raids aren’t designed for you.

Awww I thought raids were about skills and group coordination, not pve mindless grinding…

Pretty sure that so called elites can 1v10 them in zerker gear while tanking a random HP champion so nope, they are fine.

Playing since release, only got 1 ascended weapon drop ever ( I’m not doing fractals though). At the same time, I got 2 precursors. So for me, ascended is rarer than precursor.
This game might have a problem with drop rates.

Fonction Gyro carries l33t zerkers since october 23th.

Man, ANet forces me to log to get my daily rewards. I feel your pain.

Black Lion Chest has now an infinitesimal chance to drop a random bug fix for HoT. You can buy Black Lion Keys @ your favorite BLTC merchant anywhere in Lion’s Arch. Thank you for your support.

I stopped playing HoT areas because of empty maps, just to find myself stucked @ precursor crafting because of bugs. If only fractals had good rewards but nope. And wvw is dead.

You see, it could be worse than dying a couple of times

I’ve always used my wvw gear for pve and I still wait to see anyone complaing about it.

How do you find maps with enough people to even start these meta events? HoT is full of dead maps, LFG doesn’t help, all I see is SW 4/4 from 10 to 99% then VW and Teq. And Fractals.
It’s depressing.

Well I have the exact same problem with meta events. I might be extremly unlucky with megaserver, but I can’t seem to find an active map ever. HoT for me is full of empty maps with WP contested ( except VB, but I still have to complete the meta with max tier).
LFG is full of SW taxi groups, and very few HoT. Most of HoT are asking for a decent map, not taxiing.
So the only thing I’m doing lately is running in circles gathering flax.
After only 1 week.

Are you complaining about a game you didn’t even play for the last 2 years?

Felahr.9830:

Complete rubbish. My first character/main had 213 after Map Completion and thats with maxing everything. at 250 he could have Druid almost immediately. An Elite spec, unlocked, 20 minutes into the release of the new content. thats bullkitten, thats too easy. it should be HARD. you shouldnt come out the gate at 90%. 250 HP to an elite is too easy and I hate that its to easy. Its not special anymore, it doesnt show you mastered Maguuma, multiple zones, and put 40 hero loci of work into your character. it cheapens it.

I’m playing GW2 for wvw. I could care less about being a Maguuma hero, since it doesn’t mean much to me. I want my new spec to fight other people. Not to brag about my l33t pve skills in LA and/or forums.

I’m glad Anet changed it to 250, it will be easier to level my alts now.

Probably 6.5 or 7.

+ Difficulty.

+ Maps and music are gorgeous.

+Story looks promising.

+I like the new collections.

+Extra T6 rewards for map events.

- I really really don’t know what to do to have fun in new maps. Events take a lot of time. Meta events are, idk, messy? I think SW have a better time invested/reward ratio.

- WvW new maps are beautiful but desperately empty.

- New legendaries precursor gated behind millions of XP.

- New mastery system is interesting, but I don’t like having to unlock it to be able to get HP.

Just killed that vampire champ you can only reach during night with choppers in VB. The life leech is insane, and it took us ( 10ish players) 3 times to be able to kill it. Impossible to solo, but fun tho.

I like HoT.
I like the new elite specs, I like getting T6 mats as rewards in Orr, I like gliding. New spec collections are a nice addition, since I was able to loot items all over Tyria while completing my HP.
New maps are gorgeous but I’m still trying to figure how meta events really work. SW meta event was quite obvious after one or two VW in comparison.

I’m not found of HoT masteries, since it’s locked within the new maps but I like the Tyria ones. I can’t wait to start my new legendary.

Wyverns are great !

Difficulty is ok for the moment. HP aren’t solo friendly tho.

Actualy, HoT highly favorize ranged weapons over melee. Sometimes, I got one shoted by something I can’t even see, and I play a mix of soldier and knight. I don’t mind the difficulty, it makes things interesting. But having to sit with mortar and pewpew from 1200 range isn’t the reason why I picked scrapper. The legendary wyvern is a perfect example of it (animation are obvious though, but with all the fire aoe, it’s almost impossible to melee)
And the champ timer… such a great idea -_-. I see people talking about the golem champ, this guy you can only reach from canopee? 5346135426542652685265426354 hit points, impossible to complete within the timer. So the HP is gated by the chopper event, and noone is doing it 3 days after release. I can’t imagine in a couple of weeks.

Otherwise, I’ve been able to complete other champs with the help of LFG tool. I might try the golem one next time.

In before Mordem complaining about [Os] blob. Grats guys !

I think I’m gonna get another infraction if I tell you what I really think about this, OP.

I’m really excited about HoT and I can’t wait for tomorrow.

Your HoT experience? Without even playing?
Please.

Exciton.8942:

Nausicca.6038:

fireflyry.7023:

I’ve read some pretty valid and well put points from both sides of the fence, no need to derail it with fictional over-exaggeration and belittlement.

People are already over exaggerating with the HP grind.
Actualy, GW2 is the only MMO that allow you to get your BiS gear BEFORE the expac launch.
No level cap increases. No level locking behind instanced dungeons.
Insta lvl 80 revenant with tomes.

The counterpart is… HP. Consider it as the new XP for your elite spec. What’s wrong with that?

Because it is inherently different from XP prior to 80. You could do pretty much anything you like to earn that XP. This HP requirement forces you to do one thing——map exploration grinding.

So if we need 160 HP to unlock the traits part of our spec… that means 16 challenges. Not 160 or 1600.
16
Where’s the grind again?

fireflyry.7023:

I’ve read some pretty valid and well put points from both sides of the fence, no need to derail it with fictional over-exaggeration and belittlement.

People are already over exaggerating with the HP grind.
Actualy, GW2 is the only MMO that allow you to get your BiS gear BEFORE the expac launch.
No level cap increases. No level locking behind instanced dungeons.
Insta lvl 80 revenant with tomes.

The counterpart is… HP. Consider it as the new XP for your elite spec. What’s wrong with that?

People will mostly try Revenant. No need to unlock the elite spec to enjoy something new. I know a lot of people in my guild ( we are a wvw roaming guild btw) will play revenant.
And if you want to zerg HP and miss all the new content, it’s your problem.

Sirendor.1394:

Nausicca.6038:

Since raising the level cap in GW2 wouldn’t make any sense like in other MMOs xpacs, Anet have decided to add new specs that we will be able to unlock ( level up) with HP.

Just consider HP as the new XP and elite spec the new level cap.

Interesting way to look at it Nausicca! There is indeed a striking resemblance between this and traditional level cap increases. Do you evaluate it possitively because of this or is this rather a criticism for pushing a “hidden level cap” on the players?

I think it’s a good compromise between a real level cap increases (making our current gear obsolete) and no progression at all. I’d rather having a lot of things to do in HoT than the opposite.

Since raising the level cap in GW2 wouldn’t make any sense like in other MMOs xpacs, Anet have decided to add new specs that we will be able to unlock ( level up) with HP.

Just consider HP as the new XP and elite spec the new level cap.

I’ll have to play pve for a couple of hours in a very new area to unlock my E spec, THIS IS THE END OF THE WORLD !
/quitbecauseElifeistoughandANethatesme

Seriously…

I’m mostly a wvw roamer and I don’t see any problem here. I can’t wait to try gliding, it will remind me my good old days in Aion.

I’m a vet, bought HoT last friday and I’m still waiting for my character slot. It may take longer than a week.

edit: well I just got it. So yea, you’ll have to wait until next friday

Embolism.8106:

Nausicca.6038:

I wish there was less condi mesmers in wvw solo roaming scene. Actualy, I don’t even remember running into another class this week. It’s killing the fun, really.
If everyone and their cats are playing condi mesmers, maybe there’s a problem. Maybe.

Fortunatly, they are non factor in group play, but still, I don’t always have a group to play with and I wish I could fight something else than this cheese build.

Or maybe the problem is with solo roaming itself, a “game mode” with very strict criteria as to what builds can succeed, naturally resulting in very limited build diversity.

Solo roaming should factor exactly nothing into balance. PvE players complain about PvP infringing on its balance, well balancing around solo roaming is 100x worse.

I know solo roaming is not and will never be balanced. I’m not asking for it. I don’t care tbh. I’m roaming because I like open world pvp. But at least, there was class diversity before. Now it’s only condi mesmer everywhere. It’s just boring. " oh another condi mesmer, woot".

I wish there was less condi mesmers in wvw solo roaming scene. Actualy, I don’t even remember running into another class this week. It’s killing the fun, really.
If everyone and their cats are playing condi mesmers, maybe there’s a problem. Maybe.

Fortunatly, they are non factor in group play, but still, I don’t always have a group to play with and I wish I could fight something else than this cheese build.

Mirta.5029:

Nausicca.6038:

Mirta.5029:

You’re getting the developer to literally go back on what they said years ago and you’re welcoming it.

Maybe in pve, but we’re using a kind of trinity in wvw roaming everyday and it works pretty well. These specs have been there since release. There’s no lie here, no turning back.
We already have pure DPS and bunker specs, so why not healing?

I don’t have a problem with a viable healing build existing, I have a problem with them saying that you literally won’t clear the raid without said healers. I also have a problem of heal specs being limited to only certain professions.

Obviously, raids will be a challenging, more pre made oriented (guild?) content than actual dungeons. They said pugs would have a hard time clearing these. I guess these groups will need DPS, healing specs, boons sharing specs, probably cc’ers/interrupt, or even stealth. Who knows? We know nothing about it. But maybe that aegis, or daze, or blind will be more important than healing during certain phases. So what? Groups will need to bring aegis spammers? A lot of classes can’t use aegis on demand. Same for blind, or daze, or stealth. So why not healing?
And if we need a rez banner for a specific mechanic? Warrior mendatory?
AoE moa? Engi mendatory?
AoE stealth? Mesmer/thief mendatory?

We should wait before complaining. Really.

Mirta.5029:

You’re getting the developer to literally go back on what they said years ago and you’re welcoming it.

Maybe in pve, but we’re using a kind of trinity in wvw roaming everyday and it works pretty well. These specs have been there since release. There’s no lie here, no turning back.
We already have pure DPS and bunker specs, so why not healing?

I don’t understand pve’ers. Really.
People are complaining about the “eventuality” of stacking for healing efficiency, but the current meta is already in a zerker wallstacking mindlesspewpew state.
So what? You’re gonna stack with a druid instead of an ele? I understand your frustration, it’s so game breaking.
But you know what. There are a lot of people who actualy enjoy healing in a mmo. And they will be probably happier to stack heal than stack pewpew. So stop thinking about yourself and how frustrating it is to stack with non dps. YOU WILL KEEP STACKING. Nothing will change. Don’t worry. Your corners are safe.

And healing is going to be awesome in wvw small group roaming. I can’t wait to be a healer again in a pvp environnement.

That’s amazing, ty for this ANet.

Ansau.7326:

You can melt people in seconds and they allow to face outnumbered fights, which requires tons of skill and are more stressful than duels with a power burst build.

PU + the pledge + passive dmg + high toughness ( and vitaly when using dire) must be so stressful to play.
As stressfull as condi trap thief.

I played pve to farm gold for Sunrise. I find gathering relaxing, SW was boring, Tequatl was kinda fun the first times, dungeons meh. I was doing a bit of champ train in Cursed Shore mostly because I love the art map. Overall, it was a mindless farm.
Now I’m back to wvw and I don’t regret it. I feel like the entiere combat system as been made for roaming and group pvp ( not zerging, ewww). I’ve never found the same feeling in pve, even in dungeons where you just need to stack to win.

Otherwise, I still enjoy gathering in Orr. Or afk in LA. I’ll probably do more pve if I want a new legendary, unless Anet changes the rewards in wvw.

I can’t believe people are crying so much for nerfs. What do you want exactly? A PU nerf? Yes sure, let ANEt nerf PU. You know how ANet nerf things, don’t you? And it’s not like people will still be able to stun 100-0 from stealth. So what? A little stun nerf now? Of course ! But, but, mesmer can still 100-0 from stealth? How come? We nerfed PU and their stun ! Ohhhh, yes we forgot to nerf mind wrack. Now that’s it, mesmer is balanced.

Happy?

The new PU is perfect for WvW roaming. I can now escape blobs and groups of “solo roamers” easily. I have a lot of fun with my shatter PU build. Finaly

50$ is a bit much for me, especialy if I compare to Heavensward. I was waiting for Anet to release more info about HoT before buying but so far, I don’t see anything justifying this price.
Sad :/

Dire supremacy is coming. If people with 2k condi can hit like zerkers, with bunker stats, I quit this game.