Guild Wars 2

Please do not tar a whole server based on one players actions. There have been comments in the thread about exploits/hacks already but none have been directed at servers, merely at the players themselves.

We tried visiting earlier with 5 of us but we got zerged out 5 is not quite enough to potter around without distraction

At the same time, it shows why melee is horrible for WvW as well though. Had any of these 4 been melee, they would’ve had a MUCH harder time. This kind of play relies upon the enemy being too cowardly to attack you… being melee just removes that.

Certain class combinations would not work for this, the ele’s combo fields help a lot but more than that the fact that each meteor of meteor shower can hit 5 targets, it makes that AoE far more potent for zerg killing than any other spell.

I see [Pi] around although very few, so I assume a small guild? [HxH] are certainly a common opponent.

Can you PM me the screenshot when you get access to it? I’ve mentioned to the guys already but every little helps

I can assure it wasn’t done with malicious intent, and if I ever catch anyone trying such things on purpose then they won’t be doing so with our tag on in future

Korsbaek.9803:

and from what i have seen GH Normaly plays fair play tho last night we had a few IMP players from GH trying to get into our keep without takeing down the gate or wall

Please be more specific, location, zone, time, professions.

Further more is it [Imp] as in “Impact Eu” as I have seen other players around with [Imp] tags who are not from our guild, one of whom is a recent exile from RoF I Believe (Ohdaving val Dhova?).

I can garrauntee we have no exploiters or cheats in this guild. By what do you mean “trying to get inside”?

Seems RoF took the opportunity of us being in your BL to send 8 golems into ours >.<

I was present at the lord killing the second time, which was my guild again.

We broke the outer with the 2 golems (We kept them alive after the first capture) whilst you were down at bluelake. The inner gate is notoriously buggy at garrison and does not always contest – but I can assure you it was broken with the golems once again, and was contested at both the outer gate and the lord. It was however not contested at the inner.

Yorric, I was the person in charge of the garrison ninja. We broke the water gates fair and square.

2 Golems and some rams were used. I have gotten so used to people saying such things now that I actually keep screenshots of many of the undiscovered ninja’s. Not that it matters, because there was NO ONE in that keep when it fell, so how can you say that the gate’s weren’t broken?

Screenshot attached, you can clearly see a golem and ram in the gateway.

Only 45points between RoF and WSR atm, tense stuff!

I of course would love to hold this place… but come the end of the night I can’t see myself going “Whoa that was awesome!” as so far it’s just run → spam attacks in lord room → try heal, fail from lag → die → repeat.

It’s like watching videos from the T1 servers, turtle vs turtle over in 10seconds by people spamming autoattacks… I don’t see it as being fun or immense skill, there’s no reactionary use of abilities or dodging etc. That’s exactly how this 5hour (and counting) SM defense is feeling….

:(

Ending the siege? It’s still going strong lol.

This is just… so laggy Not really “Epic” :P

3 servers contained entirely inside the lord room of SM… heal skill taking 30s to cast and everything you hit is a clone!

I run with Poulty and Leek soup (cba forking out the difference for the higher one) for the -36% condition duration.

Well… my crumbling walls of stonemist comment was clearly seeing into the future o.O Just go away already!!

Khylrion.2718:

seriously folk … stop feeding the obvious troll.

Troll? Naaah.. I think he’s just trying to divert attention away from the obvious RoF/WSR alliance!!!!! Look at them, both being on the same map at the same time… why didn’t we see it before!

We shall crush them under the weight of stonemists crumbling walls. Crush them I say!

/serious hat on.

You do realise a server is bigger than one guild, right? If you read the other matchup thread it is mentioned to be a truce between guilds not to attack each others territory. One guild not participating != Server.

In similar fashion, one incident of 2 servers being at the same target at once is not indication of an alliance existing.

WSR ploughed into the back of us at Klovan Gully yesterday while we were attempting to take it from RoF. Clearly WSR and RoF are in alliance!!!1111one

Nakara.7108:

Fun? On getting crushed by a revenge-alliance of 2 servers for an alliance we didn’t even have last week? Bad sportsmanship is the word fitting…

A) “Didn’t even have”, it has been confirmed by both sides already. From what I have been told – initiated by RoS.
B) Getting crushed… scores are 44k/36k/36k. Hardly crushed, most balanced scores I personally have ever had.
C) There is no alliance between WSR and GH. WSR were pushing Durios every opportunity they got as well as at one point having 5 trebs on SM. We also wiped them off EB long before RoF. I cannot comment on BL’s as I do not command there.

Whole thing is hilarious really, most balanced matchup in ages and people complain.

Certainly no alliance has passed by my knowledge. The three server’s are very evenly matched and I think it would be a real shame. I think RoF are the bigger server but by being the current last place a lot of their players aren’t coming in, as happens to us all :/ They certainly put out the numbers last week but I imagine the truce with RoS guilds helped :P

I am open to truce’s as a concept for the game when the sides are severely skewed, but for a matchup this close I would be against it if someone was to put one forward to me

I’ll pass the message on

Great matchup so far, not a particular fan of running with a zerg myself but when I logged on this morning it was the only real way to counter that WSR force that kept pummeling durios :p

Very close scores!

Very very even matchup so far, RoF and WSR both started the morning with larger numbers than GH. We were outmanned in EB and our BL until about 11am ^^.

Closest morning-after-reset scores I’ve seen in a while.

Krosan.2890:

Can’t believe the amount of sheer numbers GH is producing. Its basically to the point where tactics are irrelevant as you just swarm all over the place. Which you are basically doing on your BL’s atm.
Not sure how you guys aren’t a few tiers higher if you can pull these numbers.

Our guilds been visiting the various BL’s and I can tell you it feels exactly the same there… WSR and RoF blob’s everywhere we go :P

I would say “Yeaaah, don’t bother logging on TBH mate” but wheres the fun in empty zones

Certainly feels like RoF have the insane number advantage rest of the week though

Did you get a screenshot of the thief? I’m still new to server myself so can’t say who it would be but someone else might be able to.

For the record, we are about 15-20… there is nowhere near 35 :P There was 4 mesmers in the keep attack though so that might have added to it We lost most the golems to the swamp of guards that keep has (why is it so many compared to the others? >.< It’s meant to be the easier keep to take not the hardest!)

If you have existing 50% and you hit a stunned target, the crit is garaunteed. And just incase anyone was wondering, it does not apply to knockdowns (haven’t tested daze’s but I assume not).

One of our ele’s has done it a few times, running supply for the ram being the frustrating part ^^.

Least we’ve taken a keep with was 2.

Talon Silverhawk.5964:

Was hard trying to keep you off or out off SM. Over 4 hrs even with outer wall down and GH inside outer part. 1 goldem and a few ROS at north gate till our lot hit them and they run. In end more ROF come on and we took durios off you.
I stay up to try and keep SM and it pay off.
Nice try GH and Nice job all off ROF who was with me fighting so hard to keep SM.
At one point there was only 5 of us out numbered by about 3 to 1 or more. Some of GH did come in when outer wall went down but soon run, but then a lot of you just pour in till we was able to clear you out as more ROF come on. Still the wall stay down for a long time and at one point none of you come in.
I am now off to bed. zzzzzzzzzzzz

I didn’t even want to attack SM We had waaaay too few numbers but everyone just kept setting up trebs lol.

We had approx 15 people in the zone at the time, defending SM vs that many numbers is easy even with 3 guys.. just man those upper cannons (which you did) and let the guards do the rest. The golem at north gate was actually us not RoS (Unless it’s a different attack you are talking about?) we were trying to sneak in assuming you’d be occupied by the wall.

Walls were down for a long time but I tried to prevent as many people as possible visiting the breach as it was a complete waste of time.

Or after gifting RoS 145pts all week? :P

If I understand Glicko rating correctly, Surmia having points actually harms your rating more than us having points :P

Still.. pesky people so determined for SM they spoilt my grand plan ;’(

Still.. pesky people so determined for SM they spoilt my grand plan ;’(If we have the people online we may take you up on your GvG before end of the week… depending on how WvW is looking.

Wasn’t my decision that time I logged on to find them already trebbing so went with it… I knew it would draw out every RoF online so wanted to avoid it :P

Only just got online, guild members tell me that a RoF player (no idea of tag) flyhacked onto the dome of our EBG keep to take out our treb/treb gunner tonight :/

There are apparently screenshots but I have no idea who has them, I shall try find out.

Regardless of whether it is a full treaty, alliance, or just a few guilds – attempting to get both opponents to leave you alone (even partially) is just stupid. Of course you wish to stay here because the lower tier is less enjoyable, but at the same time if staying here involves not actually fighting against your opponents then what is the point?

I have had some fun this week, a little overly blobby for my tastes and I’m having to don my commander badge more than I’d like but still had some fun. I’m the commander behind the two SM assaults and it was really nice to see GH draw together in those occasions

Numberswise, RoF are still the higher of the 3 servers there can be no question there. During primetime we simply do not have the numbers to hold them off in EB and our BL at the same time.

Indeed, apologies for forgetting that I was rather tired and/or unhappy this morning when I made my post, and you are indeed correct you mentioned you were not representing Surmia.

Of course as you were trying to barter a deal for Surmia it is close enough to ‘representing’. But as you have said, there is no chance we would agree given the comments thrown in our direction.

On another note: Where the hell did that RoF zerg come from!?

Sajuuk.6420:

First of all read what Itsmee said… and then what you said… 2nd of all what is this GH deal you speak of?

Maybe you should try speaking to your officers. Or would you prefer screenshots?

I’ve been asked on 2 days now if RoS could barter some sort of deal that would keep GH out of their BL.

Doesn’t bother me, I just don’t see what fun could be had by having a truce with BOTH opponents.

So, RoS currently have a ‘deal’ with RoF that RoF will not enter their borderlands… yet I still get asked (twice) by RoS if they could do the same deal with GH….

… why don’t surmia just go back to PvE like the last 3 months? Get into WvW and then ask both teams to leave you alone?? Cos what we’re just going to gift you 145points?

Dear RoF,

How are you? I am commander in charge of the Gunnar’s Hold forces at present until I can find someone to take over and give me a break… while I await this arrival I have one humble request for you if you could take the time to think about it, please.

GET OUT OF OUR CASTLE >.<

Sincerely,
That norn with the candy cane.

Well of course it was 10 for you :P But still, 10 v 20 on defense? I’d be ashamed if you’d lost

10 vs 20? Pfft. What kind of girlish odds are those

Nice fight at Golanta just now.

Dang… saw another Norn with Juggernaught and abyss dye today, he was pure silver… whereas the one I saw with yellow armor had a color to it. Don’t want to be silver I was under the impression it made you shiney rather than silver.. bleh!

Still prefer Magmaton/Colossus as a skin too (It’s more.. hammery) just no legendary status and no fancy effects. Feel like I should get Jugger just cos I’m so close >.<

Struggling to decide :/

OchrisO.8450:

so the question is would you like a guild v guild fight? :P

Think we’ve had enough GvG fights with your ele-squad tonight for the entire week lol. Including about 5 fights outside lake ^^.

Now, would you please take the hint and leave our BL? Thanks.

Ray.2640:

It does seem like our numbers have increased, or the level of awareness on our random people might have increased. We’re still hanging in between T7 and T8 though, either stomp or get stomped. But I have always enjoyed small fights more anyway. Also during out little spar with RoF just now I didn’t even care that our bases were taken over.

PS; To that one guild on GH that knows what I’m talking about. Yes I’m kinda targeting you, but no hard feelings or grudges. Just friendly competition and showing what I can do, you really put up a good fight and I’ve enjoyed most of them.

The numbers seems to be 4 fold, going on both what I’ve seen and what I’ve been told via whispers.
– Holidays
– “We need to kill the traitors”
– “We must put more effort in because we have lost lost 2 guilds” (even though it’s only actually 1).
– “We’ve got an alliance? we’re not getting steamrolled? I think I’ll join in”.

As for ourselves being targetted.. well, it’s obvious :P I’d prefer not to spill drama over here, but we made the decision to move a while ago, just looking for a server. Needless to say, we shall continue as we always do, zergs? we’re used to it.

Magus.6543:

@Talon and any other from RoS/RoF, who will neglect that there is an alliance:
– don’t do it, it will make you look stupid, really
– it has already been confirmed by both members of RoF and members of RoS
– it has been shown at any time of today and yesterday in EB, and in RoS borderland.

Instead. Man up. Give each servers a brave fight, and fight for the tier you actually belong, in stead of pretending.

- Insky

Surmia/Gunnars had a truce last week, not 100% there was still some war going on, but it made sense in terms of why 3 way combat is usually seen as preferable to 2 way – it was the two weaker servers hitting the larger. There was also no point where the ‘3rd’ server was removed from the map entirely, always something to fight over even ignoring any truce.

Why this alliance makes less sense (and is more obvious) is that it is an alliance involving the largest/strongest server. Overnight whilst RoF still has a fairly strong force roaming around and has completely cleared GH from the map, they are then sitting on the GH BL rather than going to clear the RoS BL. Giving up over 200 points of income is something which no server with that current night strength would ever do It’s not due to strong defense, as there is no contested/swords markers appearing at all in red territory. So it’s not a “GH first” it’s “GH only” :P

Not really objecting to the alliance, we all know servers do it and take/consider the opportunity when it arises, but to claim it’s not true is silly at this point. Especially when GH find RoS + RoF stood/sat at the south camp having a friendly meeting then fight side by side against GH :P

Bring it on I say!

OchrisO.8450:

Night Pact [NP] i am the big hammer charr commander

Ah, we’ve been fighting you just now.. I’m the norn hammer commander

OchrisO.8450:

To Gunner’s Hold i would like to ask you guys if you would like a guild V guild fight? If any guild would like to please feel free to /w me and we will sort out a time and place <3

What guild are you though? That would help :P

Only thing that makes me chuckle with the alliance is that the GH/RoS one had no point where Dzag was pushed off the map and they were faced with a “Fight each other or don’t fight at all”. Whereas this week has already reached the stage of GH being non-existant on the map, and the last 30 RoF just logging off without touching a single RoS structure. Can’t see RoS successfully pushing RoF at all, and yet RoF give up 200 points through the night to them ^^

Elnor – RoF outnumber GH

Either way… my experiences of last week were that once the alliance ended everything was a lot more fun, the 3 way fights at GH Garrison were the most enjoyable of the week.

Drama drama drama, fun and games

Ah so the dev’s are playing guardians to test thieves OPness? Well warriors can’t kill guardians so we’ll be fine then ;D

Enjoyable matchup Big zergy.. .but enjoyable. GG everyone.

I have heard 500 total per map = 166 per server per map.
I have heard 100 per server per map (as it was lowered in the beta at one point).

But I have seen RoS get a queue with evidence of 30 players, then again there is a lot of afkers.

Please stop all attacking Garrison at same time, there’s only 5 of us you bullies

Pesky Gunnars… if you couldn’t player DPS down gates we’d still have Briar :P

Yeah it’s totally legitimate tactic, just frustrating one lol.

Our 7man group pushed into GH BL, got a few keeps and towers, got some upgrades on them and held on… by time we got pushed we were down to 3 and 2 randoms, we had loads of siege prepared. Each attack began with rams at the gate, pushed back.. then to trebs, which we had prepared for! But each time it was useless from the swirling winds Just reached a point of “We physically cannot defend” and grew a little tiresome so needed a mini-rant :p

Not much a warrior can do in these situations to feel useful