Guild Wars 2

Atoss.1056:

Sure… Then just this happens:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VtE8IYbgpQ

Points for not being a poor sport about it lol. The video legitimately made me laugh.

deviller.9135:

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

wait… so in EU the enemy that outnumbers you 4 to 1 builds 6 ACs for no apparent reason? Someone better correct me before I say something to get myself into trouble, because thats just plain stupid.

Sometimes you may rush them. But with vale wall, red circle in front of vale door, what will you think ? Enemy may be larger or have a large amount of siege.

If the enemy has someone outnumbered 4 to 1, and they have ONE AC inside the camp actively covering the outside, a single AC to cover their advance is more than enough. How do open field tactics work~?

I’d like to point out that any time I’ve been in mumble when we push your garrison theres always a level of “we’d rather be hitting FA, but oh well” in the commanders voice. Everyone feels bad for you guys, but ‘maybe’ you stop playing the victim card, and start realizing that TC and FAs rating are both falling because of this matchup, with your own rating doing better. This is less of a “lets throw low tier servers into T2” issue and more of a “see how well you an do in T2” situation for you, and quite frankly it could be worse.

wait… so in EU the enemy that outnumbers you 4 to 1 builds 6 ACs for no apparent reason? Someone better correct me before I say something to get myself into trouble, because thats just plain stupid.

I have no idea what respective BL the SS is from, but I stick with the notion of “you sat and watched them do it” that many ACs dont get built too quickly by what appears to be a pug group unless they are very unorganized and loose with their supply. I’m still trying to run over the situation of how you let them set up 6 open field arrow carts without stopping any of them from getting built, they arent particularly beefy siege, you know?

Interesting note about sword thieves, the auto attack on your sword has higher DPS than warriors great sword QQ. (INB4 100 swags) Just in case you cant tell, I’m hardly being serious with that. I’ve NEVER seen a thief run sword/pistol, but sword thieves are for sure not being shafted by any means. With weakness getting a buff, the sword is going to get ‘even more’ love than it has already gotten. In PvP (wvw especially) S/D thieves seem to be the kings when it comes to roaming, not to mention my guildies that play S/D tell me thakittens ridiculously easy to fight guardians and warriors.

Deviller, you are absolutely crazy. (NOW you mention its a joke) Typically when the enemy sets up open field siege and we have even numbers, we stop them from getting it up by rushing them while they build, with fairly good success. If it gets to the point that they set up… what was that 5-6 ACs on you in open field, you either have lower numbers and they happen to be cowards, or you sat back and watched them do it. Setting up siege outside the choke in vale is understandable, but that seems like overkill. To the point that I wonder if they do it JUST because it upsets you.

TC has always had a weak oceanic and SEA time. ALWAYS. Quite frankly, we have more people that are supposed to fill these slots than are showing up this week so far. No one came to relieve the TCBL crew on reset (the NA pulled a 12 hour+ shift, thank you very much) only to have our garrison taken by 10 people and 5 golems. I’m suspecting some level of burn out from those time slots on TC, which is understandable given that they had to face off with DBs crazy huge SEA coverage for 5 weeks.

Scanty.7623:

Congratulations to the absolute trash FA Unreal Aussie Necro that had to abuse an invuln spot until his friends came along to ruin a 1v1.

Nothing like the zerg at NE tower on TCBL on reset who was trying to hit us coming out of the spawn. That one spot on the cliff where the invuln spot comes out, they stayed and tried to fight us LOL. 1V30 has never been so viable as the moment they tried ganging up on our commander. “I’ll fight their zerg.”

Really though, if that upset you enough to post on the forums, please go outside and take a break or something.

Its hilarious really, there are so many FA celebrities we watch for!

Edit: I’m not sure if the DRMS “commander” (ele) reads the forums or not, but its fun fighting you, and last night in TCBL was full of really good fights with you.

As someone who defended TCBL all night last night, I’m quite offended by the “2v1” posts on the last page. Our NA crew stayed up later than usual to push FA off our map, and even later to keep them out of hills. All the while dealing with your constant pokes at bay the whole night. Please dont start with the tin foil hats THIS early into the matchup, the two servers you are up against can field more than one map at a time.

I can second this, burned to death several times because of this.

Who is the BP asura ele that sat by me in garrison (DBBL) for about 10 minutes? I feel like we bonded during that time, so I’ve been keeping you company too.

(no SS because I’m lazy)

I’d like to suggest FA. They need more presence overall. Their NA time slot just took a huge dip with BT leaving. TC does not need more NA guilds, and quite frankly its next to impossible to get onto our server now thakittens full anyway. More so than that, DB dosent need anymore transfers added onto their 950+ 1 month transfer list. Their server is full, and they have MORE than enough population to be competitive as is, they just dont have the showing their population suggests.

Edit: Might I point out that Mayo tried to recruit BT when they were leaving? Even after they had decided on BG he was pushing dragon brand on them.

We have pretty much the same mentality when we’re on an enemy borderlands. If we manage to break into a keep and siege it up, other invading server comes in behind us? Go right ahead and smush your face against those arrow carts. (yesterday in FABL bay, anyone?) DB made a serious attempt on garrison and hills during our assault on bay, and honestly it was just them being advantageous of the situation, and we do it to THEM too, the same way both the servers do it to us when they can. As has been said multiple times, every server is being 2v1’ed at all times.

Or just have the ears clip through the head piece like they do with everything else :x

Nina.4596:

all i can say is, Learn to Play or avoid someone using a retaliation build.

Ok, I’ll just avoid the ZvZ encounter where the enemy players would chase me half way across the map to kill me. (LOGIC)

If you think I do more damage than I take as a flamethrower engi? PER TICK?! Holy crap are you crazy. Single ticks from the FT dont hit hard by any stretch of the imagination, and we get FULL DAMAGE retal hits PER TICK (X50 in 2 seconds) thats at least 3 times the damage done to me than I can do to someone using retaliation all at once.

Tarnished coast is open right now, if you arent using that site.

Dustfinger.9510:

Whhk. Sky Pirate!

Oh my goodness, I’ve never thought about combining those two! I have the cooks outfit with aviator glasses on the warrior in the pic above. Kind of makes her look like a celebrity.

Hmmph The cutest ones are always left to do sentry duty.

Leo G.4501:

Kitcat.1739:

Ultravalefor.5038:

I love my male asura to pieces, Cyrus “Blindknives”, the blind gunslinger. Being able to reduce the eyes in the char creator to the point of non-existence is pretty awesome.

Well that’s unique…and surprisingly cute!

I agree! And I usually think Asura eyes are one of their adoring features. That one is an exception though, cute and doesn’t rely on shiny puppy eyes.

He likes it when you pull his ears~

Entropy.4732:

Straegen.2938:

All the AC change did was cause a change in tactics which IMO is a good thing as it keeps sieges fresh. Taking a defended keep should be difficult.

My only problem with ACs are some of the creative places they can land. ACs should observe cover.

Snip

You do understand that if they outnumber you, unless your held up in a chokepoint in open field, they could just as easily run you over, yes? Defensive siege inside keeps is effective until the attacking team sets up arrow carts of their own to be offensive. WITH DEFENSIVE SIEGE.

The patch did a number of things, one of those things was that it made it so that arrow carts were viable for more than just defense.

Well I went with asura because I like the cultural armor. She’s still a work in progress, but I’ve got high hopes. http://i.imgur.com/Y4DlRTK.jpg

Transfered to dragonbrand because they dont like losing. Same as any other bandwagon.
Edit: and instead of going to a server that needs their timezone coverage, they go to the server that has probably the largest SEA coverage of any NA server.

Nothing much we can do against a bandwagon server that has the numbers to PvDoor a keep down in less than 5 minutes. Not to mention you outnumber us almost 4 to 1 on TCBL.

Oh sorry Jadebrand, didnt quite cap hills did ya?

I know of one yes… http://i.imgur.com/e3TTQ.jpg

WyldKat.4712:

I’m surprised everyone didn’t leave WvW for Southsun. When else are you going to be able to say you fought off a bad case of crabs without meaning something horrific?

Well honestly it takes maybe an hour at most to get both the back pieces, and by that point I think anyone would be sick of southsun :P

I may or may not be going for quip on my engineer. As much as I love the weapon, I also happen to really like The Moot. I’ve been internally debating on quip, or making a human or norn guardian to get the moot on. (The fact that The Energizer is cheaper is also not helping me here)
Edit: Forgot to mention that I already have an asuran guardian, I just dont want to be disappointed with the effect. Quip on the engineer is forgivable.

CM was indeed the first dungeon I ever did with a friend who needed a slot. Needless to say I had no idea what I was actually getting myself into. I played a warrior at the time (not geared up fully) and we were doing path 1… so I roll into the mansion expecting it to be fairly easy, and pretty much got everyone killed a few times over before I caught on. It was only hard initially, and every other part of the path we found some way to exploit something cheap, now that I need to do the dungeon for the gift though, I’ve got to say doing research and just preparing yourself to fight the enemies is a HUGE step to improving your performance in any dungeon.

Eh, all it takes is a little bit of momentum in FA’s favor and its really hard to stop them :P They start manifesting a significant oceanic presence out of thin air! (Last week anyone?)

Tarnished Coast (NA) is currently open. Not sure how long its been up, but it is.

Edit: As of now, the temple is closed on Tarnished coast.

So what I gather out of the last few pages was that FA was upset at TC for not facing their single map zerg like men. Pro tip: We play the PPT game, which means we stick to defending/assaulting objectives, not camping spawn towers with an entire guild group (lookin at you BT). If you want the fights, start playing the PPT game with us, because it is where you will find us, and its how you will get our attention. You can play the non PPT game all you want, but its not where you will get the ‘good’ fights out of TC. You might get our militia or maybe an off-event tiny group of PiNK, which is what normally responds to your tower camping. (Not sure about our other guilds, though, I’ve only got one perspective)

Edit: This is not chest thumping, its my way of saying we wish you would play PPT with us, the same way that you wish we would just come and fight you. When FA and KN goes on the offensive it forces us to fight them, everyone gets a fight, half are happy, and half are dead. This goes for every side. Last night KN pushed us completely off their map… and we almost had that WP in bay too

I would not mind seeing this thread locked. Its become nothing but poison from every side. Too much feeding of trolls has made them powerful, and thus they became champion trolls, and our /m shoutouts fell on deaf ears.

wish.3102:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Troll thread.

We don’t make game changes based on players laughing at other players.

Anet certainly makes drastic game changes based on players crying for nerfs. Look at Thief… Mesmers and Engis get ready to be nerfed, because the complaints are about to get worse if the complaints about stealth and how they kept ramping up are an indication of whats about to happen when we see more and more confusion stacking builds being played.

I think engineers are fine… maybe even certain kits needing buffs. The main problem with grenade engineers at the moment involve the SAB camera glitch letting them hit pretty all the way over walls.

Tom.8029:

Confusion also does damage when you dodge roll or switch weapons (Attunements if an Ele). I usually just switch to water and dodge roll if I’m hit with confusion.

Thats the only legitimate problem I have dealing with confusion, is that dodge rolls and weapon swaps do full damage.

Really though, getting killed by confusion is for the most part, your own fault. This is coming from someone who has to face AVTR. Anyone on TC or KN can tell you how terrifying getting 25 stack bombed can be. We still manage to deal with it, and so can you.

Hackuuna.4085:

Raf.1078:

SquirtyMagoo.8321:

Littlefeather.8623:

“Whatever makes you feel better, I suppose. Our 5 man wipes anything less than 30 people. If you’re running more than 30 people, the simple fact that you’re sticking as a huge ball like that is a time sink on its own.”

What does a 5 man SPvP team accomplish in WvW anyway?, I mean seriously, besides supply camps and harrasing solo roamers…

They pretty much harass stragglers and pug zergs. They are pretty effective against unorganised groups that aren’t too big, but I feel like most of the zergs in this tier are too big for them to be able to do anything to.

They do harass stragglers quite a bit. Those trying to get back to the battle….5 on 1…now there is a challenge for them for all their bellowing about looking for good fights.

I actually find it quite sad myself how we will watch as a TC zerg ignores us, while we rip into their rear, and the players that we catch do not make any attempt to fight back. The stragglers just sort of limp to their death trying desperately to rejoin the main mass. It’s like watching Bambii die over and over… I shed a plethora of internet tears each time we are roaming.

I know that those leading the TC zerg have bigger fish to fry sometimes but it does seem like they ascribe natural selection to their zerging.

Well it only happens to pugs, or people who arent in the active mumble. Typically if you tell them you are getting picked off in the back in the mumble, they will turn around to pick you up.

Whitebeard.5172:

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

Bursts.1540:

Professor Sensei.2941:

So I was hearing something about FA is better than TC? I think I’ve only ever seen TC lose to them once and every other time it’s just a server to chase around for loot bags. Why do I keep hearing from random FA players added me to party that our server is trash?

Those players consider winning as wiping the other server. From judging your post you play for ppt and coverage am I right? Just differences of opinion. See you out there in your zerg ball.

Well considering we pushed you guys out of bay despite us having a numbers disadvantage for how long? Well over 2 hours before you managed to take it back. I’d say thats a victory in itself. But my god, I’ve NEVER seen FA use more trebs on anything ever. A wooden keep with ALL the walls down, and you keep building trebs. I actually even partied one of you and reminded you that you left the north/south inner gates up.

Nick, leet bag hunters never use lame trebs, trebs are only used to take PPT. Screenshot next time or it didn’t happen. ; )

but there IS screenshot! PiNK can account for my experiance too!. The guy who posted the shot of him with FA on the bridge? That is that exact situation I’m talking about!.

Bursts.1540:

Professor Sensei.2941:

So I was hearing something about FA is better than TC? I think I’ve only ever seen TC lose to them once and every other time it’s just a server to chase around for loot bags. Why do I keep hearing from random FA players added me to party that our server is trash?

Those players consider winning as wiping the other server. From judging your post you play for ppt and coverage am I right? Just differences of opinion. See you out there in your zerg ball.

Well considering we pushed you guys out of bay despite us having a numbers disadvantage for how long? Well over 2 hours before you managed to take it back. I’d say thats a victory in itself. But my god, I’ve NEVER seen FA use more trebs on anything ever. A wooden keep with ALL the walls down, and you keep building trebs. I actually even partied one of you and reminded you that you left the north/south inner gates up.

sceptus.9415:

A relaxing view from the bay last night on FA BL.

Daww you took this before I started dropping roast pigs to entice them to push.

GuardianOMS.8067:

Exactly, which is why all the posts about countering mesmers with bleeds and conditions confuse me.

As a mesmer I have to say the easiest way to counter me in groups is just to focus me at all. Anyone attacking me hurts. In small fights against a confusion mesmer I would have to say just pay attention to your conditions and who is moving. The real mesmer is not hard to pick out from the clones.

Edit: Also killing the clones might cause the unfortunate effect of cripple/vuln. Not killing them will cause you pain too.

Hopefully they fix the KITTEN crash bug with the water!!! I’m so tired of half our group DCing because of it.

GuardianOMS.8067:

Can we get some mesmers that aren’t afraid of conditions to speak up? I feel like the only one over here that does about Mantra of Resolve, Null Field, and mixing Carrion with Rabid gear.

No as a mesmer you dont have much of a reason to be afraid of conditions, especially if you run a glamour build. Hell, with well timed null fields you can sit through Sunless’ fear and laugh all day.

Edit: This ended up being a double post because my network is being laggy, sorry.

Honestly though, confusion has only legitimately killed me once, and that was against the FA group AVTR which is pretty much 95% confusion build mesmers, who can stack 25 on you in the blink of an eye. Otherwise confusion is only good against people who like to smash the 1 key as fast as they can.

Drakh.3128:

Kryyg.8576:

Just so it’s clear, all those CD guilds which went to TC shopped around first. They did approach us at JQ and asked us to pay more than what TC was offering and they would xfer over. We respectfully declined, but for fair warning to you guys they did say that if things looked glim on TC they would come back to talk to us.

Honestly, any server that resorts to paying guilds to move over to them does so at their own risk and at the sacrifice of everything they’ve worked for up to that point.

When I heard TC was paying guilds to xfer over I was quite honestly shocked. Might as well call yourselves BG 2.0 now.

Is this true? TC really paid all those CD guilds to transfer over? ’Cause that would be pretty hilarious if true.

No, TC did not “buy” them. They came to some of their friends they had on TC and tried to get set up with people helping them transfer. I would not take anything JQ says as fact either.

I dont understand when people say that FA gave up. What I saw from the TC perspective was most of the PiNK commanders being completely burned out after the last week, and much lower motivation to play until Tuesday. FA has NOT given up, TC just has their usual commanders back from break. FA still pushes/defends just as furiously as they have all week, and I hope they keep doing so until reset.

Furienify.5738:

You know how you sometimes come across something that makes you crap yourself in surprise?

Yeah, something like that…

That seems to be something I’ve noticed about Kaineng when WM wakes up, they like using LOTS AND LOTS of siege. To the point of using golems to take a wooden keep, which has damaged doors. Or hell, when they get the numbers not using siege at all at a fully upgraded keep!

Abandon thread, lock imminent!

Arkanfel.8403:

Furienify.5738:

Arkanfel.8403:

Whitebeard.5172:

Now I realize that you want a head on battle 24/7/365 but trust me, PINK is playing chess and your playing checkers.

I giggled.

PINK wasn’t running because they were “playing chess,” PINK was running because we wiped them so many times they wouldn’t fight us anymore.

Never took Cryptic Omen to be the trakittenalking type after fairly good-natured posts in the past.

The chess-and-checkers comparison rankled me. I’m not bashing PINK for running (why wouldn’t you? I’ve done it plenty), I’m just disputing the notion that it was part of some grand strategy. Yes, TC was doing VERY well on points last night—and I expect they will do the same tonight— but that wasn’t just because they were running from a CO zerg on one BL.

I already said it once, and I’ll say it again. PiNK was “running” because when your WM group was on the same map as us, we did not stand a chance in a head on fight (as our prime was LONG gone, and we were slowly losing people). We were playing defensively to hold the keep, get upset all you want about it, but when you guys are in the lead, your NA crew does this themselves, and kitten well I might add. KN has some of the strongest defensive game I’ve ever seen, While FA keeps surprising me with their garrison defenses.