Guild Wars 2

Chris.3290:

urak.4863:

grave of hearts.7830:

bandwagoneers.

:O? We got some bandwagoneers?!?!?! Why weren’t we informed?!

Of course you didn’t; you went from tier 4 to tier 1.5 purely due to a fluctuation in the Earth’s gravity that cause bull dung to be more naturally buoyant.

10/10 troll bait successful. I didnt know that it took 10 months for bandwaggons to get that far, especially given that DB pulled it off in a month, and then QUICKLY fell apart. To a lesser degree you could look at kaineng for basically the same thing. No, TC has never been the “bandwaggon”, and we’ve never gotten influxes of guilds in a short time. Just over the last 2 weeks tier 1 servers have gotten more guilds than I can count on a single hand. HELL TC has even LOST some guilds recently.

please be more mad.

divine faithborn.8365:

I would like to thank TC for zerging our keep at about 4 pm central time this afternoon. Even though you took it, one of your members dropped me a keg of wvw experience and started a chain of level ups that gave me a free 7 wvw levels.

Thanks

Consider it motivation to keep fighting the good fight?

I agree it would be more fun for our primes to fight eachother, but as Traxien said, it would be no contest still. Our NA is large enough to tick highest PPT in tier 1 matchups at peak, if that says anything. (We fall off HARD in any other time zone compared to them, though.)

Jeydra.4386:

Lol can immediately see the difference between fighting TC and fighting JQ.

TC zerg inc with 4 golems against paper keep: get inside keep, build ACs.
JQ zerg inc with 4 golems against paper keep: it’s OK, we’ll recap it later.

Keep up the fighting spirit SoS!

Because chances are that the TC zerg is on average 10-25 people smaller.

grave of hearts.7830:

Caroline.4987:

grave of hearts.7830:

On sidenotes is that pack of EP thieves on eb going only for the uplevels at spawn part of a strategy or its just the low IQ part of the guild?

Wouldn’t teaching people not to bring uplevels into WvW be a valuable educational service? You should thank them!

Now if only we could get people to do that to our uplevels, sigh

You are stepping on a rather slippery ground there,no rule saying that one can force another on how to play or what to do.
That aside after that emote spamming on eb,i think that tc got a lot of silly bandwagoneers.
Lots and Lots of them compared to the last time we faced each other.
On the other hand though our own arent better……

If you’re talking about EP members emote spamming.

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Usagi.4835:

Or you can roll over and let us rub your dragon tummies for good feels.

And where have YOU been for the last almost full month? The last time we saw you was back in the last matchup with FA.

I’m leveling my charr thief now and really enjoying it. The charr racial skills I dont see being used in any class outside of maybe engineer. It has the blurry dodges and all that, but on occasion is bugs out. Certainly not a reason to just abandon the character.

There are lots of people taking breaks until the leagues start that I know personally. We lost one of our few guilds to cover that timezone to the T1 bandwaggons, along with a few other guilds. So that did not help at all. Also to DB… Cant say we didnt tell you so months ago, but yeah. We told you so.

I didnt know that 6-7 people count a blob. I learn something new every day on these forums.

No, there are several guilds on TC that regularly run with about that many at a time because its all they can muster up without a scheduled event. I’ve never heard ‘anyone’ say that TC has the best roamers, and I for sure would never judge a servers roamers over another.

-ALSO- I hope BG enjoyed the free T3 waypointed garrison and T3 towers last night on TCBL.
gift of the the GVG going on in the south of the map, taking up enough space to give us a queue with 20-25 people total defending on the map.

I know that theres one! give me a second, I’ll edit it in.

Its the feathered set, only the chest is fairly skimpy, but I still like the way it looks. It also does not have a high leveled equivalent of the skin.

Ken.4065:

I was trying to frame a similar response, but yeah, what Vash said. Some guilds play for the fights anytime they can get together, and if they can only find fights if they poop on a karma train or two, then all the power to them I say. Nobody should be telling PvPers to NOT PvP.

Also, if BG collectively gave two craps about a couple of rating points, don’t you think we would have tried to do something about it earlier in the match? Let’s try to apply some common sense before we rage on the forums shall we?

Zend(ario/imas/iana/ango) – Engi/Ele/Necro/Guardian
[KnT] – Blackgate

yah..you dont gave craps…but apparently…other most BG want a lot…
build a lot of sieges..and just want hurt our karma train…
i feel sad and pity you…hope you all can bring this spirit to the normal day..but you didnt….

Thats… quite… a… shame…

docMed.7692:

Oh zerg on zerg rage… /snooze.

Sounds like you guys chose the wrong tier to transfer to then, eh?

Zacchary.6183:

Da kitten do I know? I’m a thief.

I’m just guessing this is a joke about stun lock warriors. Quite frankly, I’d be embarrassed to be beat by this. Nothing in this has massive burst damage like the skull crack + 100 blades builds.

Why would a theif run healing surge when healing signet is so much better? You also dont need ballance stance if you already have dolyak signet, and a certain trait choice you made makes little sense. With so much crit chance why wouldent you be running healing signet + for great justice for basically 100% crit chance?

I get you’re trying to make a joke, and I could see this working for a warrior, but theres so much that could be improved in it. Namely not using the sweet revenge trait.

ionic.2106:

Great now am not sure what to do now. Isn’t mixing power in with this build a waste without crit damage and precision. I mean i know adding power will allow me to hit harder but how does that extra power stack up against having extra condition damage?

You can mix in both, just giving up some toughness or vitality is all. It obviously adds to your up front damage, and you aren’t expected to do massive crits on a condition build anyway. That dosent mean that adding power is useless though. Those situations where you arent just roaming and manage to sneak into an enemy keep on a whim, you’ll have an easier time killing off outer wall siege, as just a single example.
I’m very new to thief, but I do run a condition warrior for roaming, and the philosophy of gear is basically the same~

Agreed, easy to understand and very fun to watch. Maybe a little rough around the edges when it comes to the commentary, but it is very straight forward and does its job well.

Axle.5182:

sostronk.8167:

All these EU players coming across to talk trash whilst avoiding prime time in their own servers….

all it relates to is where the server is based for latency purposes.

Actually I believe both the NA and EU servers are located in Austin, TX.

I’d like to say TC was also hit pretty hard by the reset. I think we had T3 towers in the north Thats kind of hard to do given the usual numbers on TCBL. Came back after we could get back in and the whole borderlands turned blue. GG blackgate, was it worth losing all your kitten? You say that you’re “training” around TCBL, but you zerg us down when we try to take stuff back. Excuses.

ionic.2106:

Why the rabid trinkets? That precision is useless at 10%. You should go with full dire trinkets.

There are dire trinkets?

Excalibur.9748:

it’s a little misleading since you can’t actually bunker with this build in sPvP lol.

This is more meant for WvW, hence the wvw mode the build editor is set to.

messiah.1908:

i would also change the food for 40% condition duration

and i think you’ll have hard time against d/d ele and warrior healing signet stunlock

Thats why I’ve seen people rolling this build with shadowstep instead of the venom.

Wouldent this build work out better with say.. mixing in 3 runes of krait and 3 runes of afflicted for that bleed duration? Only at the cost of some condition damage, and the other effects of the perplexity runes, but I could see you benefiting more from those.

muekung.2518:

Maybe BG should pull thier force back form TC BL…. it’s kinda blue atm :/

But TCBL is easy easy WXP for them, dont make them do something hard.

We had some fun last night on TCBL in hills fighting BG and SoR. Some close calls on garrison too. Also that silly standoff with EE and PLX outside of hills was fun while it lasted.

Ascii.9726:

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

Also yesterday in TCBL before we had a real force on the map… I think this may have been just a BIT overkill, dont you think SoR? I mean we had all of maybe 10 max in the keep and no siege, we literally had just taken it back.

I just want to point out, you may see this as “overkill” but your not actually out-manned in that screenshot.

Just go right ahead and ignore my other post explaining this, completely missing the point. Dosent change the fact that we still had about 13~ people in the keep, and possibly some roaming groups around the map taking back camps. I know there was a guild group starting to form up at the time.

But still, was the omega for style points?

renmei.3102:

Looks like 25-30ish people taking a keep. Not all that unusual or overkill for t1 or t2..

but an Omega golem for a wooden keep that flipped as they were running into the gate?
Edit: Dont mistake this for QQ, it seriously made me laugh when it happened. I was getting ready to help run supply for siege and SoR was already at the gate before I could get out of the lords room.
and to add to that, I ran to the NW tower to find the wall down and people in the lords room! it capped behind me so I had to book it over the wall.

Also yesterday in TCBL before we had a real force on the map… I think this may have been just a BIT overkill, dont you think SoR? I mean we had all of maybe 10 max in the keep and no siege, we literally had just taken it back.

Nebilim.5127:

Myrix.6347:

One of the Asura in the jail at the bottom floor of Rata Sum was jailed for that reason. The plaque besides his cell warns you to stay away or you might “catch his stupid.” It’s cruel but funny.

He wasn’t jailed because of that. One of the npc says he is too dummy to stay alone, so he probably caused some mess somewhere.

There is actually some conversation between him and the warden, he’s in jail until he comes up with something.

There are also a few NPCs around the banking area, one in particular talks about his mother who was exiled from her krewe. There are a lot of interesting NPCs all over Rata Sum, its quite nice looking for all of them.

Asudementio.8526:

Aurust.8961:

urak.4863:

BG/SoR/JQ should just be given their own league. Nobody else has coverage and queues map(s) 24 hours of the day :<

TC should stop whining in every thread about leagues and take their upcoming beatings. Like I point out, when TC stacked themselves far beyond any competition outside of T1, you had the same complaints lobbed against you that were dismissed out of hand.

Now its too late for your precious community…. there will be many slayings of roleplayers and dolyaks in your future. Get used to it because it seems almost every week you will be facing a t1 server.

You have no right to pass judgement on any server. SoR has and always will be a server for bandwagoners and scavengers.

+1 to this. TC didnt stack up in any way that is even comparable to a T1 servers stacking, the main reason why tier 2 is so lopsided is because of guilds leaving for tier 1 servers, not so much because TC got all the guilds in the world. (like what.. 1-2 in the last few months?) Dosent this mean that tier 1 is destabilizing all the other tiers?

Night Hawk Ix.7360:

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

LetoII.3782:

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

Avenge.1478:

Jet.4795:

Avenge.1478:

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

Avenge.1478:

Kind of interesting to see what the lack of MERC is doing to BG

For you, maybe. We’ve had half a week of JQ ticking over five hundred in that time slot. What’ll be interesting is JQ v SoR off-peak.

The two large SEA zergs were always MERC and ATM/FOO. Now that MERC bandwagoned to JQ, that SEA is stacked. Wont be too entertaining for either of us.

Don’t want to ruin your moment here but isn’t when you bandwagon the guild goes to the “winning” server?

Does JQ not blow out opponents in SEA time? #winning

Yes they do. JQ is absolutely blowing out their current SEA time with 600 ppt. Keep in mind thats against SoS and FA, who usually have a decent showing in that time zone. I cant see how blowout matches can be fun for you T1 guys.

…..Says the guy on the largest t2 server

T2 used to be more fun and competitive, I wonder what happened…. Where did ZN go? Where did WvW go? Where did BT go? Where did Agg go? Where did VK go? Oh right, they all bandwaggoned to T1. (VK went to BG, then back to FA as SiC, then left to a different tier in the end.)

Your losing to a T1 server, no harm in that given your lack of guilds, but you come on the forums and say everyone in T1 “bandwaggoned”. Common man if your gonna rage and attempt to troll at least be original.

Not saying that everyone on T1 bandwaggoned… just that a lot of T2 guilds did, and now T2 is hardly interesting anymore. TC wins by a long shot in T2 matchups, but gets absolutely stomped in T1. I want the FA from a few months ago back, I want the DB from a few months ago back. I want T2 to be a challenge without being a blowout in any direction. Basically saying, I miss the days when we had to pull out the stops because FA was very much so capable of winning T2.

LetoII.3782:

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

Avenge.1478:

Jet.4795:

Avenge.1478:

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

Avenge.1478:

Kind of interesting to see what the lack of MERC is doing to BG

For you, maybe. We’ve had half a week of JQ ticking over five hundred in that time slot. What’ll be interesting is JQ v SoR off-peak.

The two large SEA zergs were always MERC and ATM/FOO. Now that MERC bandwagoned to JQ, that SEA is stacked. Wont be too entertaining for either of us.

Don’t want to ruin your moment here but isn’t when you bandwagon the guild goes to the “winning” server?

Does JQ not blow out opponents in SEA time? #winning

Yes they do. JQ is absolutely blowing out their current SEA time with 600 ppt. Keep in mind thats against SoS and FA, who usually have a decent showing in that time zone. I cant see how blowout matches can be fun for you T1 guys.

…..Says the guy on the largest t2 server

T2 used to be more fun and competitive, I wonder what happened…. Where did ZN go? Where did WvW go? Where did BT go? Where did Agg go? Where did VK go? Oh right, they all bandwaggoned to T1. (VK went to BG, then back to FA as SiC, then left to a different tier in the end.)

Edit: might I add that the largest T2 server still loses to the smallest T1 server by over 100k points. SoS dosent lose that badly to TC. Take this however you want.

Scar.1793:

Sigh, seems like I won’t get any decent advice here. Between the trolls and the jerks acting like elitists. I’m not a pro at making PvE build that’s why I came here : for advices to help me to make a good build for a gameplay I’m enjoying.
Guess I’ll have to look somewhere else to get constructive replies.

Thank you for those who did put some efforts into writting their answers (and also reading the OP).

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

You want to see big numbers but you’re running a sword/axe tank build with defensive traits and knights gear? I don’t get it.

It’s not a tank build, 20 points in Defense and a good amount of toughness because as you can see the build is focused on melee. However like someone said, with about ~3200 armor you can get the aggro depending on the mob IA. Not mention that your position (close or far from the mob) also plays a role in the aggro. The damage too.
So I wanted some toughness because I don’t want to play a full berserk who goes down from a single random hit, like those warriors I saw during the few time I went to dungeons with my Thief. And imo vitality feels less useful than toughness and armor.

Furthermore, as I said, I like playing with swords and greatsword. It’s just a matter of taste and not about being the propveboy with the maximum damage. No, I just like the gameplay that swords and greatswords offer me. And I used to play Warrior in beta and the beginning of the game and honestly playing another GS+A/Shield is just boring in my opinion. The problem is Anet who did not care about adding more weapon skills so we could make our own gameplay with whatever weapons (like GW1) without being judged by…. random people on the internet.

I gave you some decent advice about the traits. It seems that points into the arms tree would benefit you more than the others.

Because in zergs you wont be doing a lot of condition damage…? Dire has condition damage as the main stat instead of power. You’re better off with soldiers armor on a warrior, as you dont have very good aoe condition damage outside of burning.

Did someone say that healing shouts are going to be OP? Are you serious? Healing shouts arent even noticeable as they are now, and they will still be sub par for healing after the patch.

Avenge.1478:

Jet.4795:

Avenge.1478:

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

Avenge.1478:

Kind of interesting to see what the lack of MERC is doing to BG

For you, maybe. We’ve had half a week of JQ ticking over five hundred in that time slot. What’ll be interesting is JQ v SoR off-peak.

The two large SEA zergs were always MERC and ATM/FOO. Now that MERC bandwagoned to JQ, that SEA is stacked. Wont be too entertaining for either of us.

Don’t want to ruin your moment here but isn’t when you bandwagon the guild goes to the “winning” server?

Does JQ not blow out opponents in SEA time? #winning

Yes they do. JQ is absolutely blowing out their current SEA time with 600 ppt. Keep in mind thats against SoS and FA, who usually have a decent showing in that time zone. I cant see how blowout matches can be fun for you T1 guys.

Last week was more interesting than this on TCBL. At least BG and JQ fought eachother at all. SoR camps a north tower while BG rushes garrison. We still manage to have less than both zergs despite having over an hour queue on the map.
ZN jumping on corpses, TW zerging the ruins.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ4yZ3OsoRs

Hey JQ, wanna trade? I dont particularly care to fight SoR. Ever.

Angriff.1935:

Double Endure Pain + (Melandru runes + Dogged March + Food) or berzerker stance + (Sword + Greatsword + Mobile Strikes) + balanced stance + last stand

=

A very hard to kill warrior in any circumstance. There is little you can do to stop them from running away(and getting away) besides stripping their stability and non-immobilize CCing them until their Endure Pains run out.

It does not mean they are immortal or OP, they’re just built for getting away.

OP made it sound like the warrior got to 1% health and then just didnt die though, which is slightly different than you’re mentioned situation. A warrior with such a mobile build should realistically be no threat to ANYONE, as they give up a lot for that abillity to run. Warrior forums is kind of disgusting because of 1-2 regular QQ posters though. Them and their 30/30/30/30/30 8 weapon slot warriors.

Roaming- I cant speak for.
Zerg wise is VERY different warrior. If you want to be useful to the group chances are that you want to be running Ptv armor with high health and armor (little damage output) and be running hammer. Its pretty much the warrior meta for WvW.

No. There isnt. You’re either exaggerating or you encountered someone who was hacking.
He could have used endure pain, but theres no way you wouldent have gotten him with a group that large.

Actually, the build is fairly straight forward, not really my taste, but if you had to take the points out of discipline, I see you getting more use out of arms than tactics.

GekoHayate.2451:

Taygeta.9124:

You can say the actions of individuals all you like, but JQ WvW’ers were informed of the event in map chat and TS. And those who did not wish to partake either stayed away from the event or gone to a separate BL instead of headhunting yaks like BG.

The whole defensive attitude about playing a PvP game as intended just throws GvG out of the window. Would you go to a GvG and attack the guilds as they are fighting? A more happen on a BL than just WvW. TC hosting a yak parade was an organized community event. The attack wasn’t people going out to play WvW and stumbled upon a group of red players. The ones responsible already admitted that they purposely attacked harmless tonic transformed players knowing it’s part of an event.

You are right, honestly I don’t care if wvw happens to interrupt a GvG. As fun as it is the maps weren’t meant for that particular form of server v server combat and their wxp and bags are fair game if a group happens to interrupt. Sure in my previous posts I have defended GvG’s when they when get jumped during a match, but thats more to rag on certain SoR guilds than anything >=D

The lack of a dedicated GvG feature is a failure on Anet’s part, but that is for another topic.

And yes, I can say “individuals this and that” all I like. Its a perfectly legit response for the situation. The community as a whole isn’t terrible if there are a couple bad apples. The community cannot control every player, and the player(s) responsible came forth and apologized, despite not actually doing anything wrong based on the mechanics of the game. Did they pee on someone’s parade? Basically yes but the parade is something extracurricular.

If a couple JQ had started headhunting Yaks at the parade would the JQ community be a terrible community because of that? No, would be an absurd claim to make based on what happened and I’m sure you’d be chased out of the forums for being that guy.

The bad apple individual in any case represents the whole community. A few people on TC exploiting a tower bug on EB and suddenly the whole server gets called out for it. A -certain- guild on another server is well known for hacking, they reflect baddly on the whole as well. Its how impressions work, and all we have to go on is “Tarnished coast XXX” or “Jade Quarry XXX” for names. As I mentioned earlier about the dolyak parade though, THE SITUATION HAS BEEN RESOLVED, THE GUILTY PARTY HAS APOLOGIZED, DROP IT. If you wanted to argue about the dolyak parade, you realistically missed your chances like 4-5 months ago when it was started.

Lina.9640:

It’s not a nerf, it’s a fix.

Sheesh, have warriors not gotten a nerf in such a long time that they forgot what it is?

Sometimes, skills are bugged and need to be fixed. Sometimes, even, you get nerfed without getting anything back.

Warriors havent needed a nerf of anything for nearly a full year, can you blame them? I agree with fixing the sigil though. I just hope they dont nerf stuns in general, and only nerf the mace stun. keep your dirty back stabbing mits off my hammer, the stun is all that makes it even close to equal to the guardians hammer.

Kalidri.5427:

Kman.7358:

GekoHayate.2451:

zach.1952:

lol.. BG… what a server. they really showed just how “great” their community is tonight. thank you to those who wanted to participate and sorry for the others that shame your realm.

If the actions of a few individuals speaks for the server then JQ is just as bad as you make BG out to be. Try placing the blame where it should fall, on the individual players that attacked the parade (despite doing wvw in a wvw zone). Calling out a server because of a few players makes you seem like a scorned child.

Never-mind the many BG players in attendance having fun with the rest of the Yak parade….

On top of this, it’s also a PvP zone. You can try and organize things like this, where players are supposed to be friendly, but that’s at your own risk. People are going to do what they want, and attack who they want to attack. There was also nothing stopping you from retaliating, I’m sure there were enough people there to assist with that.

If you do this and expect everyone that runs into you to support what you’re doing and not attack, there’s another issue here.

Just on the point of “nothing stopping you from retaliating” , this parade was primarily Blackgate (you guys are awesome really) and TC was in the minority. Any retaliation on my part would have hit ‘friendly’ BG which i simply will not do. So I let them kill me. We reconvened in north camp and finished. I really have no hard feelings, it’s tradition and I will continue to do it for as long as there is a golden yak, my blood is a sacrifice to the greater fun and less seriousness that my life needs.

Part of the fun of the parade is the risk involved and I never blame whole servers or guilds if things get a bit violent. On my way down to the parade in wolf form, a BG player stepped in front of a zerg and stopped them from attacking me. I’ve had a great deal of fun with both servers this week – a couple times at caps a BG player or two bowed before using my body as an absorbent capping mop and there was that time a BG ele ran alongside me as I was scouting. We ended up dancing! Stay playful my friends, remember to play, it isn’t serious but fun.

did they make the censors more harsh in the last 3 hours? whats with all the kitten suddenly.

therealjaypo.1690:

LaMisT.1863:

JQ camps spawnfor BG so that TC cant defend keep and BG clears mortars so that JQ can cap TC towers.. TC too stronk outmanned? or maybe JQ and BG are some kind of gay buddies? :s

Exactly, because it doesn’t make sense from an overall map strategy standpoint to, y’know, break that waypoint to impair your troop’s movements or anything.

On an unrelated note, missing your wallet BG? PM me.

TC had outmanned on the map while the keep was under attack. I dont think BG was going to be stopped even without your help. /shame

Ayrilana.1396:

WINSON.3278:

Take the castle using the BUG TC

If we fight them next week then just do the same over and over and over. Until it becomes a big problem, it won’t be fixed. If I recall, this weekend is another weekend for players to play for free. Do it on a new account.

Or how about no one use it, and you just send in a ticket?

Ruin.3461:

Only in GW2 are people ridiculed for playing the game as intended by the developers.

The developers intended for WvW to be casual, and it would seem people were trying to do just that, so whats your point?

sostronk.8167:

So the parade is all over the map capping other peoples objectives including keeps and spawn towers? I thought this was something that was just done at north camp or something out of the way. Not surprised its been hit the last two times it came to server 1 TBH. A similar event happens in T1 regularly which is karma train friday nights during Oceanic and Sea. Also known as drunk karma training by SOR I believe. There is no intention of fighting unless you pretty much stumble into it and go whatevers lets fight. But each week JQ fights and defends and takes advantage of the situation to get more kills and points out of it. So we go karma train somewhere else where we are less likely to get zerged and crack open another can of bourbon.

Actually, to add to what handin said, sometimes we lose dolyaks passing sentries and the south camp guards. The dolyak parade is no threat, and a large guild group stopped to let us pass before we got jumped. The situation is already resolved and the guilty party has already apologized.

Its ok… now feed us dried grass, and maybe we can move on.

DirtyBird.6093:

This is Iyma Twerkit, one of the people fro GoF responsible for attacking the yak parade. Firstly i would like to say that the group that did this disastrous atrocity was a collection of 5 of us, we do not represent the entire GoF guild in our actions. I just don’t understand why this can’t be taken to a PvE area via guesting to not take up room in a tier 1 wvw competitive environment? Irregardless of current score im not particularly fond of losing our natural tower, bay or any other territory because our BL is qued due to “yakkers”? Sorry for the yakicide.

The event was on TCBL. Everthing in your post has been said before for months, to put it to you quickly: lolno, we’ll do it again next week. have some fun next time, both the tower and the keep were wooden, and you lost basically nothing. srsbsns