Guild Wars 2

Arkanfel.8403:

Whitebeard.5172:

Now I realize that you want a head on battle 24/7/365 but trust me, PINK is playing chess and your playing checkers.

I giggled.

PINK wasn’t running because they were “playing chess,” PINK was running because we wiped them so many times they wouldn’t fight us anymore.

Its called defense, your server does it during our NA prime time too~ While you guys were on KNBL pushing into hills and then backing away, taking camps, we were getting back into the lead in PPT elsewhere. If we had lost hills, it would have effectively pushed us off the map.

SmokeyNYY.7841:

I miss facing TC in tier two

maybe SoR will drop down and join you guys again some day

Oh man I hope not, you guys nearly broke us that last time. I think it took us getting pushed to tier 3 again for our population to go back to what it used to be.

war.3790:

Thats the only thing TC can do, try to farm pugs, as soon as we get even numbers you hide =)

If by farm pugs, you mean farming some of your biggest guilds, then yes, we did that tonight. We had some fun with a RISE thief though, instead of smashing my face he decided to just hang out for like 5 minutes.

With a picture for the memories~ (!!Language warning!!)
(PS. We set up another bonfire in the lords room hoping you would come have some fun with us.)

etrigan.4213:

LaMisT.1863:

Score Update brought to you by the two headed veteran guard :

Errr…do you think they look at each other out of the corners of their eyes while they go to the bathroom?

Also…do Charr use a litterbox?

You really want to ask that while in a thread with TC? :P

Divinorium.8952:

I’ve heard of the new patch and got back from a 3~4 months break of GW2.
What i saw?
The same ZergxZerg, now with wannabe legends pve players who want to have 8723628763872 in Wrank.
Guards still a joke, seriously any half decent player can solo all the npcs in a keep/tower/camp with easy and you guys will really make them even weaker?
And of courses who have the night squad will rule the match.

And commander titles still being sold for gold? I saw 4 commanders who had no idea of what they were doing, herding the zerg to enemy territory when our towers had NO upgrades…

I think all the talk about W3 being important for Anet was false, since all they did was changes that only ppl who NEVER HAD PLAYED W3 WOULD DO.

Make the keeps/towers more defensible? make camp harder to take? Nah i will just add improvements to make the already easy to kill npc even easier.

Guess i will keep waiting for TESO.

I think you are seriously over estimating what 5% is when it comes to damage taken/done. I do agree about the commander tags though.

I do think you should get some for escorting yaks (I have no idea if it actually does or not) but I still feel like such an important job goes unrewarded.

Furiousbeard.7602:

FA and their wvw groups are doing fine. I hear Kaineng the ones we should really be worried about. They seemed to have lost their focus this round.

I’m not sure about that. Kaineng’s oceanic is as strong as ever, shown by the current PPT.

All these people defending the Glicko system and saying they just need to reset points…. Might I bring up the one week where the matchup site had all servers at equal points? The lowest tier servers where one server DOMINATES the whole week ended up in tier 1, and ballanced matchups ended up being moved down a few, to several tiers. I think it goes without saying that, the poor low tier servers would end up getting stomped, and the point system would be borked for well over a month because of it.

Its been less than 24 hours since the patch, and people are still excited about it. Just give it some time, man. People roll around and grind mindlessly when new PvE content comes out, what do you expect to happen when WvW gets new shinnies?

erigais.6805:

i like the changes. i would like to see this but the big question is where?!

Maybe just add a smaller bar under the normal XP bar. If they keep it small it should not confuse people too much with the change.

KrazyFlyinChicken.5936:

SpitFire.4690:

Is it true that GODS and RET’s leaders quit and transferred server?? Cause someone PMd me from FA that both guild is having major internal issues

We had 2/5 guild leaders in RET decided they wanted to try something new. We hope they’ll be back but there’s no drama about it. RET continues to collect bags like it always has

I haven’t heard anything about GODS

I dont know 100%, but I have heard that GODS has been having some problems recently as well. After seeing the group of them after the update though, I’d say they still have a decent WvW scene… nothing compared to what I remember from T3 though.

I know it has been said here before, but I really do hope you guys consider TC! We have some SEA coverage for you to play with, and we ARE going up against WM, and at the moment we are not able to compete with them at that time slot. I know you are not looking to make a huge difference, but really with you guys backing us up we could be fully competitive with Kaining~ We also do not plan to push into T1, and quite enjoy our current matchup in T2. Alternatively, SoR is also a very very good choice. We really think you guys would enjoy yourselves with us, and our guilds are very supportive of each other. I think everyone is looking forward to what you guys decide to do, but whatever it is, I hope you guys find a nice place to stay.

Edit: Self promotion aside, I am a transfer to TC myself (back in November) and have never regretted it. The best competitive choices here are SoR, TC, and FA.

BobbyT.7192:

this can’t be that fun for you tc, aren’t you lagging everywhere?

HAH yeah I just couldent play anymore tonight. 90 man zerg rolling around is just too much for me to handle. My computer explodes any time our zergs meet, just waiting for our PvE people to get bored, and run back to dungeon running or something.

ykyk.2740:

WyldKat.4712:

I’m starting to feel like the TC people want it more this week. And that was before I kept running into Kaineng people everywhere before realizing I was in Kaineng BL.

I did not get enough sleep…

I think it’s awesome that the servers (TC and FA in particular) are so closely matched that whoever wants it more that week can actually come out ahead. Not too many matchups have that privilege as far as I can see.

And even when FA wants it, TC can put up enough of a fight to almost take it back. This really is a good matchup. It seems like the official forums are a lot friendlier on every side suddenly, I might stay~

Darachi.1394:

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

enjisa.2971:

Was part of the garrison defense. It was fun. Pops to Kindele for making the most out of our small numbers and pushed TC and KN out after hours of relentless defenses. Thank you TC and KN. It was a fund 3 way fight.

You guys had small numbers? Props to you guys for holding against both servers, but it looked like you guys had a small army keeping us outside :P Either way, the fighting outside the wall was ridiculously fun.

I think we had some people that were not running with me specifically. I believe I was the only commander on the map at that time, but I had about 15 people with me in an organized group.

The first time we got into the inner garrison though, we accidentally ran directly into a stack of Kaining. Needless to say, that hurt quite a bit.

enjisa.2971:

Was part of the garrison defense. It was fun. Pops to Kindele for making the most out of our small numbers and pushed TC and KN out after hours of relentless defenses. Thank you TC and KN. It was a fund 3 way fight.

You guys had small numbers? Props to you guys for holding against both servers, but it looked like you guys had a small army keeping us outside :P Either way, the fighting outside the wall was ridiculously fun.

Johje Holan.4607:

I like to play early morning NA Eastern on the weekends, which I take it you all need. But during the week I play NA Eastern prime because of work.

Are there queues during the week NA Eastern prime?

The only time aside from reset or weekend you will find queues during prime are in EB, and when guilds are running WvW events, and even then there is most of the time at least one map without a queue.

Only recently have I joined a dedicated WvW guild in TC. Spent most of my time as a random, and had the time of my life still. We have tons of co-operative people in and out of guilds at most times, and the response times to team chat call outs are shocking at times! I’d happily welcome any and all who come here, because TC always has cookies for everyone.

Digikid.7230:

I don’t know why we maguumans are getting the reputation for being bad mannered- every server has their bad apples and you shouldn’t judge a server based on those people.
Most maguumans I see on the field are there to have fun and do their best(and you should give them props for fighting even in a huge blowout.)

I’ve seen a lot of people pointing fingers to our bad apples lately, actually.

SHAKA ZULU.3128:

All I know is that the entirety of TC would have one.

Ya got me. I would get one.

Xirin.8593:

Please host another Dolyak walk!

We do have plenty of people in DOLY here on TC, hopefully CD wont mind us doing it without them.

What about Necro? Feel so left out

insaneshadow.1654:

I want to take my 38 Guardian into WvWvW, is that a good decision? I’m mainly asking because of the gear difference and that I’ll more than likely get destroyed by proper 80s. Not that I don’t get destroyed enough in WvW because… well, because I suck at PvP lol.

I went in at 30 ish as a warrior and did fine. As long as you stick with commanders and try to be helpful, you should be fine. Heck, as a guardian you should be better off than I was!

Sorrow.7384:

Really looking forward to this week’s matchup! I’m also looking forward to getting some revenge on some TC’ers from when I was a Yak’s Bender, you guys are some tough cookies.

Revenge? We love Yaks Bend generally! I am really interested in seeing how we will do this week though.

Dont feed, please.

I love how hostile you guys can be with each other and still make it sound nice in T1 :P Tell you what, we in TC will give BG what for eh?

Tulisin.6945:

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

Tulisin.6945:

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

Actually a necromancer throwing down bleeds and marks is a pretty good counter to thieves.

High-stealth thieves can reasily remove conditions and avoiding marks is not difficult. Marks beat the heck out of standing there doing nothing, and they work as a solid deterrent if you drop them around friendlies, but they’re not a very effective offensive counter to stealth.

Sadly what you say is true. Even if you happen to be good with Necro you can not beat a high stealth thief. The condition removal that comes with their stealth (3 conditions, mind you) seems like a bit too much…. I can understand it getting rid of immobilize or cripples and chilled, but not general conditions.

Point is this isn’t a problem by itself, necromancers have other tools that can be used to counter stealth. The problem is that the community keeps parroting the advice “throw AEs all over the place” when that is really, really bad advice to counter stealth.

Well they arent giving complete advice. Throwing AOEs around is not a good way to counter them alone, but is IS a good way to limit their mobility advantage, you have to admit.

Zilm.8459:

YB has lost to FA,CD and TC recently, and we understood why. Population. They did not “ruin” Tier 3. That played the game in it’s given state. They did not win because of “zerg”. The won due to server participation, skill and strategy.

Honestly TC has a PROBLEM with server participation, believe it or not. The majority of our server is PvE and roleplay! We owe our success to our commanders and willing pugs~

Tulisin.6945:

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

Actually a necromancer throwing down bleeds and marks is a pretty good counter to thieves.

High-stealth thieves can reasily remove conditions and avoiding marks is not difficult. Marks beat the heck out of standing there doing nothing, and they work as a solid deterrent if you drop them around friendlies, but they’re not a very effective offensive counter to stealth.

Sadly what you say is true. Even if you happen to be good with Necro you can not beat a high stealth thief. The condition removal that comes with their stealth (3 conditions, mind you) seems like a bit too much…. I can understand it getting rid of immobilize or cripples and chilled, but not general conditions.

Nut.4713:

Ron.4920:

Yak’s bend pretty much ruined this tier, with their 24 hour zerg, and their relentless night capping.

lol, geez man. The only thing that comes to mind is /facepalm.

You know, we hear FA saying that WORD FOR WORD in T3. Last place always complains about being out manned, even in T2 I’ve seen it. I’m sure TC will be doing the same if we move up this week.

Tulisin.6945:

No matter how many times people are told that throwing AEs all over the ground is not an effective counter to stealth, they still complain that they don’t have enough AE power to throw on the ground to counter stealth.

You’re better off auto attacking than trying to coat the ground in red circles.

Actually a necromancer throwing down bleeds and marks is a pretty good counter to thieves. This technically qualifies as AOE. Does not change the point made in my post though.

Ron.4920:

World versus was cool at one time. Now though it is just the same servers week after week.

Yak’s bend keeps recruiting more people, even though they have a big enough lead already. All they do with those extra numbers is camp the portal spawns with siege, and type /dance, or /laugh. Really fun matchs, its so fun to be killed and made fun of at the same time, and it really makes you want to keep coming back for more. Half the players in any given match take it very seriously. The other half don’t say anything for fear of a serious WvWer bashing them.

Yak’s bend pretty much ruined this tier, with their 24 hour zerg, and their relentless night capping. I just can’t believe the game would allow 30 people to siege a base of 5 in the middle of the night. But GW2 does; which is probably why myself and many many others have decided to simply log out.

You guys are facing a server that is competitive in T3. What do you expect to happen? If it wasn’t them doing it, it would be FA or CD doing the EXACT same thing.
I’m sorry you arent having fun with it, I really am. I’m not sure what server you happen to be on, all I know is that EB just got a large boost from HIRE transferring over from IoJ.

Truth be told, I hear from the grapevine that EB has a lot of power hidden from IoJ from a guild transfer.

Looking forward to seeing pictures from apple of the flash DOLY party that went around the map.

I went from 30 to 80 on my warrior in a small handful of weeks, it was pretty quick!

Good luck to all of you! IoJ might be saying they are looking forward to an “easy win” (so to say) but if the bigger guilds from FA and CD come out like they did the week before wintersday they will have a real run for their money! ESPECIALLY if GODS comes out in the force they did when it was YB and FA for those last few weeks.

spartanx.1364:

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

rhonyn.6810:

Ardon.4105

I’d actually love to see where all these people are since we never have any queues except for EBG, even at reset, and during a good portion of the day we don’t have a single point on two of the four maps.

Interesting. If the above is true, and TC gets the numbers out to play in t2 matches that they do in t3 matches they may actually be the server with the largest pop (during primetimes at least), or at a minimum at least comparable.

Truth be told, we are likely to get MORE out for T2 than we have for T3. At least for the weekend.

In all honesty you will benefit from T2 allot longer than just the first weekend. You will constantly be going up against some really tough servers that will be using different tactics than you might be used too. So over the next few weeks you guys will be in a great learning period while you guys adjust to our tactics.

At the same time you will probably bring things we have not seen so we will have to adjust as well. It will also take some getting used to having a stronger NA presence to fight. Its going to be fun!

I’m not sure, we have seen some top-notch tactics from GODS in FA. We might be more prepared than you give us credit for It will be a good learning experience for us, the same as when we faced you guys last time!

Think I’m ready to throw my hat into this. Without QQing about my personal failures against thieves I can honestly say that the thief has too much in one package for it to be balanced. The class itself encourages exploiting the culling problems, the stealth mechanic makes it next to impossible for several classes to really counter it, and the ungodly high damage rate mixed with both of the above make it both frustrating and I feel lessens what could be a FULLY enjoyable fight for both parties. It is not a “L2P issue” 90% of the time, and the class could use some fundamental work. I’m not here screaming NERF OMG OP, but I am saying that the class could use a lot of tweaking.

NOW throwing in a fight I had the other day with 3+ people against one thief… we all used CC to try and lock her down, AOE in all places we thought she would go, but every time she popped back into view she was at equal or higher health than before, and refused to give us a fighting chance. In the end she ran away with 90% health. The mobility and utility of stealth does make it too easy for the class to get out of ridiculously stupid decisions and fights.

TL;DR : The class needs a bit of work, but not a straight up nerf.

Niim.9260:

Sunspots.9861:

Ancient astronaut theorists believe that Nimland is really just an old wool sock… Confirm?

If PINK was not already deemed unworthy and executed on sight, it would be now.

Why you gotta be mad. Its good our servers get a break from each other. I’m just sad to see TC/CD split up the major parts of the dolyak parade are torn from each other.

rhonyn.6810:

Ardon.4105

I’d actually love to see where all these people are since we never have any queues except for EBG, even at reset, and during a good portion of the day we don’t have a single point on two of the four maps.

Interesting. If the above is true, and TC gets the numbers out to play in t2 matches that they do in t3 matches they may actually be the server with the largest pop (during primetimes at least), or at a minimum at least comparable.

Truth be told, we are likely to get MORE out for T2 than we have for T3. At least for the weekend.

Just here to get my “hello” and “how are you” out of the way early. We will be seeing a bit more of each other it seems. Hopefully we will get along better than TC and FA :P

Astry.9476:

IRSyKo.5843:

Greyskies.2815:

Ok TC 30,000 points ahead…lets keep this up so we can finally leave this Tier. Just need SoR and BG to put the hammer on IoJ.

Awww you guys will be missed dearly.

-FA

Well with current scores you guys are in NO danger of going down a tier, so hopefully give us one hell of a fight when we inevitably get pushed back down to T3

IRSyKo.5843:

Greyskies.2815:

Ok TC 30,000 points ahead…lets keep this up so we can finally leave this Tier. Just need SoR and BG to put the hammer on IoJ.

Awww you guys will be missed dearly.

-FA

Likewise, I assure you.

Nightswrath.2640:

As the leader of one of the major Oceanic guilds playing on FA I’d be keen to see some more players during this time zone.

If you are a single player looking for a great guild or a leader looking to xfer to a competitive server send me a tell and I’ll either get you in or help you adjust to the xfer.

I brought my guild, [UK], across from Darkhaven about 2&half months ago and have never looked back. The battles in WvW are constant, we have found the other commanders and guild leaders approachable and keen to work together for the server as a whole. It has a great and growing sense of community as well as a hard fought and deserved reputation of being staunch.

I got rolled while mining rich silver the other night by a group of you guys going around attacking singles instead of defending like you should have been. I even waved. Sorry I have a negative outlook on you guys, you havent done much to deserve it other than that.

I like FA as a server and the fact that with their numbers so low in T3 they can still put up one hell of a fight. A lot of people working together and using strategy to get where they are.

Urrid.4593:

Edit: Arkard.3970, you might want to explain that those values are from that website that projects potential server rankings and trends. It took me a bit to figure out what I was looking at, but, yeesh, I guess were going to be together forever.

Jayne.9251:

This should keep us all quiet …. At least for a little while:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Coming-Soon-To-WvW-updated-12-14/first

Lots of interesting stuff in here.

That’s the reason I decided to start commanding again. For a while I was pretty much ready to say goodbye to the game.

noooo dont go awayyyy!!! The toast needs you.

LAWDY LAWDY we have complaining about complaining… about complaining!

Xorn.6079:

WvW is not a huge massive PvP anymore. Its all for points, EXPs, and KARMAs.. sad..

I dont know about where you are from, but its CERTAINLY not that way in TC. From what I hear its not that way in FA or CD either.

The top 3-4 tiers arent just a “karma grind”

We really do miss you guys. Maybe you would have been up for yesterdays fun?

Raincrow.1840:

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

Be proud in your defense! We havent known FA to be the best at defending, but you’ve proven to me time and again that guys are more than capable of holding and pushing off an attack.

Who is defending in FA right now? And how many TC players are in FA borders?

Because if the TC zerg is as big as the one running all over CD, I’m certain those FA defenders deserve high praise. I’ve been in CD trying to 5 on 20 for the last couple hours, and finally gave up out of sheer frustration.

Not feeling a lot of CD pride right now.

I hear talk there were 40 some FA defending their garrison when TC rolled in. That is impressive and from how long it took from what I heard, they did a good job of holding us off, and it sounded like a good fight, advantage or not.

The difference is that the TC force is driven by general community volunteers and our commanders leading them. I’m not sure if CD is able to muster the same ammount of random people behind a commander, regardless of guild, to help.

Either way, good on you for standing up and trying at least! When you guys get your big crew on things should start going back to normal, and they should start being able to fight off the TC zergs in a head on fight.

Next week I’m hoping that because of the lower population on TC that we will see
A. Less complaining about TCs numbers
B. Less aliances for the sake of “having a fighting chance at all”
and C. A more balanced and all around fun time for everyone.

Unfortunately.5940:

Nice to see TC are still claiming that being able to field huge numbers at off-peak hours is superior tactics.

I dont think I’ve heard a single TC player say that in this thread, and then go on to call it superior tactics.

Both of the other servers have done the same thing using their strongest time periods.

Tactics or not, having more numbers will ALWAYS ALWAYS be an advantage with potential. All I hear from FA players lately is “boo hoo TC is a bigger server, dont be so proud”

What about the defense you guys put up in FABL? It may have lost but dont put their efforts down like that! On the topic of TC using tactics and strategy, we do sometimes when we are evenly matched, or slightly undermanned, but we dont otherwise because it tends to be stressful and we are made up of random people willing to help, not dedicated WvW guilds. Be proud in your defense! We havent known FA to be the best at defending, but you’ve proven to me time and again that guys are more than capable of holding and pushing off an attack.