Guild Wars 2

maybe 1 guy that commented on my vid can help you
(its only 3 comments, me,my friend and an IoJ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTMsJ7cF6Z4

good one but a bit more complicated
it wont be named “guild wars”, it will be called “guild battles”
im satisfied on the current concept on worlds, what im not is the, not so random matchup

what i want is the PPT world vs PPT world vs PPT world
or PPK world vs PPK world vs PPK world

just dont mix the matchup, the current one
PPT world vs PPK world vs insert your world here

so everyone can talk and brag about their kills on a thread
only i wonder how the PPT would brag to each other PPT world about their winning
“yeah man in you face, we flooded you with points, we win you lose” or something like that

then it should be renamed PPD (points per death) not PPK (points per kill)
PPD rhymes with PPT (there will be assjam meta this time but who cares its a 3 way fight not 1world vs 1world fights, as long as its called “fights” then im happy seeing that, pls end the PPT meta i beg you Anet), i just want to make a vid themed “Indestructible by Distubed” this time

btw the KDR theme i hope dawdler understood that, its only a simple math that ive shown, and never got a word from him on that since then, maybe he’s still figuring it out atm
if you need help understanding just ask, ill make it super simple next time, like a kindergarten math

Anatolian Turk.4057:

xXBAKESXx.6731:

Bump. get more replies on this, force them to act

There is no point beating a dead fish. Let it R.I.P.

he’s just doing what this song meant (i prefer this one)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH-k_6tU9Wc

but yours is this one……. (I’ve done this one on my last mmorpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moSFlvxnbgk

just the views from those vids tell you whats on the mind of the people here…
looking and comparing makes me sad for everyone……

Phantom.8130:

How about if you’re outnumbered, all of your supplies are twice as effective? So you’d double your ability to build siege and repair, and your yaks would effectively double the speed of the upgrades. Someone suggested something similar to this years ago, and it sounded like a decent idea to me. Though, personally, I would have been happy if they just swapped the outmanned buff for the orb buff, and left the orbs in. Of course, they would have actually had to fix the exploits and ban the hackers for that to work, so it was little more than a pipe dream.

sounds ok, but, that is a “passive” outnumbered buff, meaning when your outnumbered your brain tells you to defend every last remaining territory you have till every towers/keep/camp you own are captured by enemy, that change only slows the capping time for an enemy.
try to change that to an “active” one meaning you have a chance to make a decision whether to defend every stronghold you have or kill every one that takes your land and get good points to it.
your suggestion is good one though

good to see people are learning fast, and makes contribution/suggestions to server balancing

Dawdler.8521:

Create dozens of free accounts, put them to macro respawn at hills or bay.
Bring your zerg and enjoy killing naked lootbags.

I would assume that there is a cooldown on the points you are worth (just like wxp gets reduced) in order to avoid kill abuse and encourage fighting against heavy odds. But then again, its WvW we’re talking about.

no cooldown needed, just the “hall of shame thread”

on there we will see Players, Worlds/Servers or even Anet on which ones really killing WvW

Hint #1: PPT Hype Meta

try to differentiate the intentional feeding from an unintentional one,
this is feeding but an unintentional one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmNgz1uwnY8

this one i cant differentiate yet if its in the category of feeding or not or something else
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhbjG8lOKao
(i want that 30 sec blue buff too)

RedBaron.6058:

This points per kill will be greatly abused by people with accounts/friends on opposing servers.

Be ready to find small groups farming PPK from naked characters in some obscure corner of the new BL maps.

here’s my advice, review the math “carefully” that ive included
if that doesn’t satisfy you cuz ur on T8 server then just hit the record button on the ones you suspect about abusing it and ill make a thread called “hall of shame” and you post that abusive pips vids on that thread, it takes lvl 60 on a free account to abuse on a WvW, how much time it takes for a free account to level it up from 1-60?

be sure to get the names btw, Block>get the name>unblock> whisper etc etc etc

ive already done the math, be sure to check the official post
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/World-vs-World-Holiday-Sneak-Peek/page/11

yah, what you will be reading here is all correct, its up to you what to choose the world you want, all are good
ive let you see what you wanted, and some let you read what you expect

tell you the truth its hard for me on making those vids, specially when you destroyed 2 worlds’ pride along with it….

but by any chance your here, just go to the nearest tag on the map and hit the video record button and pooof! ……..instant montage for YouTube
.
“if ur not mad enough….., pls gtfo of GoM
but if ur bold enough…. come here to our gate and we’ll show you what madness is……… once you enter it”

Schmitma.3185:

I’m not at all a “competitive” person, but I like to have some sense of honor and dignity on the battlefield. Not fighting for points, but fighting for glory!
….that likes to have fun and use their imagination

- Grom Ironsiege

(Pt1)
/watch?v=WgF1b1H1lvE&t=2m5s (Pt2)

theres a catch, its not a 24/7 WvW server, its an NA prime one,when i just want fights i just go to EoTM no frustrations or whatsoever since im not an elitist to go to T1 and only play WvW for fun

Grim West.3194:

Lol, are you seriously trying to convince us that the devs give equal time to WvW? In communication OR actual design? Hah, good one.

then give a very good one, near perfect suggestion that would make WvW better for everyone, and no one else would disagree to that suggestion
if you cant provide that bro, be sure to think first before posting…….sigh.

maybe because Anet wants players to do PvP or PVE to buy them some time for the WvW overhaul, be positive, think positive.
WvW is the most difficult to polish in this game and so as the other games in this mode
and……. whats wrong about PPK btw?
you guys contented on PPT style WvW mode gameplay server matchup?

saerni.2584:

This thread is for commentary and for anyone else to make suggestions for what kinds of things they would like to see implemented. This is not a thread for bug fixes or for " changes " to existing content.

My proposal relates to the concept of borderlands generally.

the title is misleading so is the content, better edit it fast or you know what to do….

Zioba.6182:

Jski.6180:

Worst type of gaming in NA. You need 50 ppl of your own and 50 ppl to fight. That alone makes things hard to concatenate playing.
Think of it this way the old mmorpg or rvr players use to have a lot of free time when they where kids but most of though players are older and have a great deal less amount of free time from being you know an adult. The new gamer are more cellphone base and that comes with a lot of fast small games and that IS the major gaming forces behind things now.
Its all a game of numbers and you simply cant make ppl play for hrs on end any more for content.

What a bullkitten. You don’t need 50 players on each side. It doesn’t matter if you have 10 players or 20 or 50 on each side, as long as you are able to get equal fights the fighting is fun. The problems start, when one side has significant more or less players than the others and one side just steamrolles everything and everyone.

thats what im suggesting before bud, even if were outnumbered, make a change Anet so that the every server fights is a fair and square one, the bugs are minor problems, the equality is not
glad to see some people can see the real problem…….

Jski.6180:

Worst type of gaming in NA. You need 50 ppl of your own and 50 ppl to fight. That alone makes things hard to concatenate playing.
Think of it this way the old mmorpg or rvr players use to have a lot of free time when they where kids but most of though players are older and have a great deal less amount of free time from being you know an adult. The new gamer are more cellphone base and that comes with a lot of fast small games and that IS the major gaming forces behind things now.
Its all a game of numbers and you simply cant make ppl play for hrs on end any more for content.

so ur saying that this mode must be forged/molded/perfected only for NA?
imagine if that came true, and Anet put an IP ban for Asia, China, EU, Oceania, etc and this game is only for NA, that would be a hiroshima bomb on the population, that game of numbers will be ashes incinerated by ur comment, kid.
is that what you want… to decrease the 50v50?
go to PvP thread instead, WvW is not for you……

Dawdler.8521:

TheBlueLight.1762:

The defenders only have to shoot AC’s to keep other opponents unable to ress.

The notes are for hard ressing. Not ressing downed. You can still res downed people in combat, which is what people can do under AC fire (if they can tank the damage). Good luck trying to hard res someone fully killed under heavy AC fire even with 5 people doing it. That’s like begging to be wiped.

This will be zero difference from how it is today.

The only real con with the change is if the commander is focused and insta-popped/killed. If zergs are equal size, you can usually hard res single defeated players.

But of course the pro of not having a superior force hard ressing everything in sight even if they die 10 times over and should have been wiped outweigh this IMO.

so whats the plan?

Absurd.2947:

Enough of this complaining and legitimate feedback, please enjoy the new mini arrowhead and reappearing stag helm skin.

When i try to wear that mini on WvW it says:

“Miniatures have been hidden due to declining player population.”

everyone needs to breath some fresh air too

Boss Nomad.6487:

This is a good list of the current bugs in WvW.

New content and changes to existing content are important and make WvW a bit better place however bugs that limit gameplay makes the experience in WvW a lot worse.

Please fix the bugs more actively. I would prioritize fixing bugs over finding changes that could make WvW a better place.

I don’t like to run around a tower clicking on every wall to find out which one does not show a health bar and is destroyed.

I don’t like to see a commander placing catapults about to destroy a wall that cannot be destroyed.

I also don’t like to find out that a contested keep was not contested by a player.

i think the bugs were tolerable atm,
we managed to WvW with that bugs for a few months without a flinch

“oh, the wall is bugged kitten , oh well we just place another one…”
“eyes on keep? , seems clear, maybe a tap”
etc etc etc

but lately what kept the people away from WvW is that outnumbered buff, coverage, PPT, population, lack of equality among servers, those are the frustations from old WvWers and new ones alike.

if they solve, *if, the issue on bugs 1st instead of new content or changes to the existing then it will surely cut half on the time bomb ticking till it blows GW2 WvW population
thats from a POV from a server who is not in a T1, remember that.

its Anet’s choice if they want the time bomb to blow 50% earlier or………..

and as to the PVE, its not the reason why GW2 holds the crown, its the “guild wars”

Jski.6180:

Nusku.3941:

These changes are mediocre. You should re-adjust the banners for specific situations. A lot of people in WvW are starting to quit because of the inequality in battle they pose.

I recommend that what you should do for banner is: if the server is outnumbered, they should be allowed to take any banners they want. Because for a lot of WvW focused guilds, they keep falling off hard due to the inability to compete with the enemy abusing like three or four banners at a time.

Also, a lot of people can agree with me that the individual borderlands need to be cut up a lot more, most of the t3 servers don’t even bother going to them anymore and it takes away a lot from what WvW used to be.

Just saying.

Kind of a side note but to respond to you.
Pure rvr games will start strong and keep a pop for a time but in the long run they will die off becuse it is the WORST type of online gaming in the NA where a lot of the mmorpg pop comes from. There just no hook to keep ppl playing the same fights over and over in the long run something we can see in GW2 wvw but GW2 is more then just wvw the reason why GW2 should out last a lot of the up and coming games.

Any way i like to see more guild banners added to wvw but more limitation to thouts banners such as removing all skill effect from the classes that hold the banner making it a full transformation. Also making it a one banner per guild so no doubling up with public banners.

there is however one specific game (mmorpg) that kept the hook set and stood time until it died of the age, playing it feels like your in the game itself ,that game managed to evoke nostalgia to players till today just by hearing the main city’s theme.
the grandeur of its world cup is unparalleled in any other mmo combined

there are also few songs composed from different countries specially for that game, it also spawned a new breed of pop-culture event, the “Gaming Convention”

(song was Barrio, neighborhood/borderland in english, by Powerspoonz)
loved their lyrics, "loose yourself in this asura strike(1 hit KO skill that make you say “oh sh*T!” )and sure nuff…. we got the styles to make you stay in beat and then we break your guild and bring that on the streets, you know we represent and we come in correct, show you nuff love and respect….")

thats the mainstream before dota2 took over……. a moba
just remember…. there was a mmorpg that once ROK’d the world

ok here’s a story on my previous mmorpg its a pure PVE one and no GvG or even a PvP
on its launch it was a blast, all channels/blocks/worlds are full all the time, the events are fun specially the sudden death ranking (its the only competitive mode which you kill bosses as many as you can for 1 hour and get your name posted on the system and the forums, bragging rights).
the players asked for PvP but its a game that cant have a pvp due to its nature so i suggested that they retain the sudden death ranking cuz its the only mode that you prepare for what you grind every once in a month,
what did they did?
they killed the sudden death ranking, they focused on adding new boss for which it will only last for 5 days before one gets bored
if they only listened………
from 40 world channels down to 10 channels….
they said they reduced the channels so that “you and your friends will be able to play together and meet up easily with other people with less channels”
everyone of us knew they were lying…

i tried to save that game once, but i failed…..

i am the 5th from my ship (ship 02) on a month, and the driver of the 4th and 9th placer on the chart on my party (think of it as i drive an EoTM zerg vs a WvW zerg with a TS)
there are few matches that ive been 1st but they didnt posted it anymore due to the killing process of the rankings and focusing much on PVE
http://forums.playpark.net/index.php?/topic/249116-sudden-death-ranking-oct/

diax.2815:

Changes look to be going the right direction, but all of these aside, as long as you don’t adress server population issues, many servers will keep having horrible WvW experiences. Or should we all ragequit and transfer to a gold server like most do and leave lower servers for dead?

tis the most meaningful comment yet to date,

not like the barricades, keeps, dolyucks, borderland change, banners and all those the so called upgrade ovehaul trash etc etc etc

the problem on the WvW is that the servers are dying exept the top tier because of population issues, now as ive proposed before to make a change that even a tier 8 server can maybe, just maybe, have a chance to beat a tier 1 server and win it on a matchup by some new mechanics
in sports there is a champion, and a so called underdog. and sometimes the underdawg wins…..

on gw2 there is a rally mechanic when you are downed for that little bit of hope left that you may get up if you continue fighting…, in WvW when your tier is down below you dont have a rally or your stuck downed and the life points continue degrading till your server is dead.

that outnumbered buff is an assurance of a “ok im outta here” saying.
if your gonna turn on the PPK, make sure those outnumbered buff is a buff to be reckoned with not to be discouraged by, pop that x10 or so on PPK when you have that buff, “A cornered animal is most dangerous.”

atheria.2837:

PPK wasn’t popular the one time I know it was used, made being a long player absolutely impossible.

PPK will kill WvW as much as taking our servers from us.

now were getting more direct to the point, loved the patriotism btw unlike the gold stuff diamond ones
could you care to explain why would PPK would kill PPT…… imean WvW?

ah, the KDR is the redundant factor which is practically like “nothing”, so we make good use to it by amplifying something with it to make it more useful, that case the points accumulated, now for every 15 mins is a tick right, read this carefully, the KDR in every 15 mins should multiply to the points on the PPT before it would be added to the scoreboard.
example,
red team with a 225 point tick and 1.23 kdr would add to the score an approx of 277
points on the score board and
blue team with a 400 point tick and 0.8 kdr would add 320 points on the score card
, KDR changes in every second if there are fights going right
that KDR calculation is for every 15 minutes please take note of this
while the PPK is totally something different, its like the IP, immediate points, and the kills per rank would make them even more exiting on the immediate points
while the KDR is like a twist on PPT, points per tick

on one hour there are four 15 min tick, so maybe ur 1st 15 min ur KRD is 1.25 then you got wiped on the 2nd 15 min ur KDR goes down to 0.60 then on the 3rd 15 min you got ur revenge by wiping them so your KDR got boosted to 1.5 and so on and so forth…

i hope you get the point cuz i typed so many “point” words lol

Dawdler.8521:

Norbe.7630:

on the image below is an approx 20,000 kills and the so called ratio(killdeathratio)
the red team total score is 176,688 with a ratio of 1.01
blue team score is 148,125 with a ratio of 1.24
and green team is 129,715 with a ratio of 0.66
lets introduce the redundant factor in this game, the ratio
176,688*1.01=178,kitten new score for red
148,125*1.24=183,675 new score for blue
129,715*0.66=85,612 new score for green
so even the score on PPT of red is higher than blue the blue wins due to its higher multiplier caused by KDR, that means that even when a server has a wider coverage on the map in any given time, any server has a chance to beat them on points due to KDR

Say what? PPK is not KDR. Involving KDR in a war is ridiculous and have never done any good for any game whatsoever.

With normal PPK your 3 servers in that pic would rank exactly the same. In fact it would be even worse, since #3 would be even further behind.

That said, it would be hilarious to exploit a KDR system – just dont play the game and automaticly win every matchup. Nightcap everything during the night, then during the day dont engage anything your zerg cant kill for certain. Always run a 50 man monoblob and only targets groups of less than 5 people, run away from the rest. It doesnt matter if you only kill 1000 people during the day, as long as no one of yours die. Even if the nightcap wasnt effective and you currently only have 200,000 vs 300,000/350,000, dont fret – your 20:1 KDR ensure victory regardless of them having a million PPT points.

i guess you got confused on algebra…
and i didnt say PPK is KDR i said we can introduce the “redundant factor” in the game
i can interpret KDR for you which is coined by Herbert Spencer, Survival of the Fittest, only the strong survives
“Involving KDR in a war is ridiculous”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

if that’s the strategy of your server then i have no right to question it, and again Survival of the fittest both physically and mentally to win a war

and the 20 kdr, is that from tier 8 server?
im sure you don’t want that 5 people killing your 50 man blob for a 10 kdr
Hint: (5 diamonds happily roaming/scouting for enemy zerg,while singing diamonds by rihanna on TS ,then luring them to their own zerg for an ambush)
cuz i dont want to show again some algebra if people doesn’t understand it at all

if you have anymore questions regarding the concept feel free to ask to make it better,

ok time to review some algebra on PPK,
Data:
(Points per rank killed)
normal=5
bronze=10
silver=20
gold=30
platinum=50
mithril=65
diamond=80

(PPT for 1 week)
{600points}*{4tickperhour}*{24hoursperday}*{7days}=403,200 total score of the PPTers who dont kill at all

on the image below is an approx 20,000 kills and the so called ratio(killdeathratio)
the red team total score is 176,688 with a ratio of 1.01
blue team score is 148,125 with a ratio of 1.24
and green team is 129,715 with a ratio of 0.66
lets introduce the redundant factor in this game, the ratio
176,688*1.01=178,kitten new score for red
148,125*1.24=183,675 new score for blue
129,715*0.66=85,612 new score for green
so even the score on PPT of red is higher than blue the blue wins due to its higher multiplier caused by KDR, that means that even when a server has a wider coverage on the map in any given time, any server has a chance to beat them on points due to KDR

now for the 20,000 kills lets say the average players are all silvers as an example
20,000kills*20silverpoints=400,000 point
remember the PPT earlier about 403,200, thats a full map PPT of the week with zero kills, and the 400,000 point just by killing and not PPTing

the servers on lowers tiers have less kills like 10k, 5k, 2k and so on
the system will calculate points every 15mins (point tick) on the score and kdr and update the score instantly

now you guys decide if it can be used as a chemotherapy for the game…

i see the point, its just an idea and its a flexible one you can lower or raise the points to PPK and PPT depending on the situation, to make wvw better
Hell i would personally not waste my time being gangked all day for a few gold which i could earn more on SW for the same amount of time.
what would a diamond rank player do with gold anyway, sell them for real money perhaps..? the thing is there is a report button on that one, and im sure anet can read the chat and trade logs for that diamond one or two or even three and so on

Entenkommando.5208:

Norbe.7630:

sorry for the double post and this thread is tldr but anyway heres my suggestion
why not add the points per kill system like
a normal rank killed = 10point
bronze= 50 point
silver= 100 point
gold=300 point
platinum=500 point
mithril=1000 point
and last diamonds = 5000 points

Are these points for the killing players’ rank or for the killed players’ rank?

Anyways it simply won’t work with brainless eotm farmers thinking they are super diamond pros.

killed players rank
eg: badlands Silver general= 100 pts
og platinum assaulter= 500pts and so on
and might suggest this only applys on BL’s and EB since eotm is full of uplevels atm

msalakka.4653:

Norbe.7630:

sorry for the double post and this thread is tldr but anyway heres my suggestion
why not add the points per kill system like
a normal rank killed = 10point
bronze= 50 point
silver= 100 point
gold=300 point
platinum=500 point
mithril=1000 point
and last diamonds = 5000 points
that way, the defense and offense would be more tactical and the roamers would be more…..careful and skillful
what are ranks for isnt it
there is a saying that goes like this
with great power comes great responsibility
and also to prevent the camp spawning, have the team ability to bombard all enemies within 10000 radius from spawn at a 1 hour cooldown, only tanks survive the zerkz dead on the spot, of course this would trigger 1st within an x amount of players on spawn much like siegecrusher and siegerazer does

I think it would just make the alt-f4 routine more prevalent.

could you explain why?
cuz some people want in wvw is to kill others to PPT, just giving both parties a fair deal imho

sorry for the double post and this thread is tldr but anyway heres my suggestion
why not add the points per kill system like
a normal rank killed = 10point
bronze= 50 point
silver= 100 point
gold=300 point
platinum=500 point
mithril=1000 point
and last diamonds = 5000 points
that way, the defense and offense would be more tactical and the roamers would be more…..careful and skillful
what are ranks for isnt it
there is a saying that goes like this
with great power comes great responsibility
and also to prevent the camp spawning, have the team ability to bombard all enemies within 10000 radius from spawn at a 1 hour cooldown, only tanks survive the zerkz dead on the spot, of course this would trigger 1st within an x amount of players on spawn much like siegecrusher and siegerazer does
imagine the scythe of grenth or balthazar’s breath killing an opposing team