Guild Wars 2

and for the argument’s sake,
some of you guys agreed to this kitten
there are more than these…

the apple tag, the additional colored commander tag, then the !@#$ player tags….
i guess WvW can be solved by adding tags

ah that thread,
the thread which i didn’t bother looking even though it was made by a mod

maybe i was on the other post made by that guy and the majority clearly made their point

whats that feedback thread?
i only knew the poll on which the KISS/1u1d lost a landslide.
the majority voted this

……Trump won

i think this is the result of the posts made by people entitled
give us back our identities to the linked servers, we don’t want to be guests anymore, we want identity

pieces of kittens….

turning off the nameplate then making the team player color lighter/brighter is better
and good for fps too than this piece of kitten

i dont play WvW for rewards or golds..
“i play WvW for…..”
should have made a thread for that……

BlaqueFyre.5678:

The easy solution is to lower Overstacked Servers populations Map caps so they are Queued constantly that will make players transfer out..

Management

time for me to bump my thread then
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/WvW-2-0/first#post6395579

Dawdler.8521:

Do I really have to?

as a courtesy, yes

least ive asked for a
“can Mithril Ores be placed instead?”
to make sure its worth
or the outcome would be the Goldwars 2
instead of….
you said it yourself
worse suggestions
without any basis

Edit:
i’ll tell you a secret, i have no courtesy on the cancer forums, i make sure everyone’s blood boils when i post something there

and i have 3 leashes that kept me from being not courteous here,
1st the mods leash
2nd the fellow player, imagine theres a person behind these names with bloods that can be manipulated lets say boiled, they’re only intention is to make WvW great again, Trump ftw
3rd the game itself

Dawdler.8521:

As a sidenote, my suggestion is usually to remove tiers, assign fixed colors over a month or two or three and then glicko rank servers per faction. After a season is done, give out loot, reset glicko and shuffle colors.

after reading the sidenote, its basically turning it to eotm
would you want me to change the of all time to eternity then?

you see, these people share their ideas to make WvW better, then you tell them it is worse, you didn’t even explained why before judging it

rhayan.9580:

Lack of Players
Loosing Competitive Gameplay ( Lack of organize groups running, Enemy/Allies)
Lack of Servers/Communities

you do know that gold can buy guilds right?
an alliance can easily buy a guild to tilt the balance of the war
i don’t want to turn this into Goldwars 2……..

can Mithril Ores be placed instead?

Just a flesh wound.3589:

1. Introduce new players to WvW. A lot of players dont even know that there is another game mode called WvW and they just stay in PvE.

If ANet cared about PvE people wandering into WvW and staying to try it out they wouldn’t have removed the crafting tables that brought PvE people into WvW.

PvE people used to tell each other to go to WvW for crafting, and now they don’t. That got PvE people in the WvW maps for a reason that was useful to PvE people. After that it wasn’t that hard for them to leave the crafting area and check it out.

I used to tell people all the time. Go to WvW. You can craft up there. I told random people in map chat. I told guildies. I told people on the forums. I gave instructions on where the icon was and how to select their borderland. Guess how many people I’ve told since the crafting removal.

Zero

Zilch

None

No one.

Multiply this by all the other PvE people who used to do the same thing. There is now no word of mouth by PvE people urging other PvE people to go into WvW to craft.

want me to point finger on who did that?
Queue Tiers

im curious rhayan, why gold in your proposal?
and also what is your basis on the current WvW problems that lets you come up with this idea

Dawdler.8521:

My own of course.

Duh.

and that is………….
tada!

none?

now , may i say that is the worst suggestion of all time then

Dawdler.8521:

At the second point my initial impression was “well this the worst suggestion I have ever seen”.

After reading the rest I would like to update that to “well this is by far the worst suggestion I have ever seen that even make dikus rants seen sensible (not really)”.

i hope you can point out which is the best suggestion for you then…. by far

i think you should simplify it as
“make WvW be EoTM period”
-GW2 WvW is like countries with different kings(guilds) ruling them they are united in one country and by kings(guilds) that rule there
-On the other hand, the alliance system will be like WW2 its Axis vs Allies its like
White vs Black vs Brown
Whitebois vs Neegas vs Asians
this is not WoW or Camelot Unchained or etc etc etc

if i were God, i would give each county equal amount of resources to be harvested all 24 or 27 of them
then let the resources be divided on each kings on who worked hardest on that country
the more kings and kingdom and people there is the lesser share they get individualy due to more people are claiming their share

wikedtik.5681:

YB talks smack on the unofficial official wvw forums.

Does that forum infrac people?
if not i must go there at once

i think im having a deja vu
the clairvoyance is too stronk for the matchup stagnation again…….

-i like the issue #1,
but that kind of recommendation is only effective if a game has a specific region to play
Ex: USA only and no OCX/SEA playing
you cant just give each timezone a specific time to WvW, it must be a standard to every players,
Ex: USA only servers, will have WvW on every saturday nights for 3 hours, then back to pvp or pve, again we have different timezone, in short, it has to be standardized

-about the issue #3
see my thread, “WvW 2.0”

heres my punch line then

50 limit is too small,it wont remove zerging and there will be even less to do for roamers.

We have 24 servers on NA and 27 on EU i think its plenty enough to fit those WvW guilds
example: 2 large guilds on EB 25 each vs 5 guilds consisting of 10 man each etc etc..

If I enter with no guild tag, get placed on Server B. And then represent a Guild that is on Server A, what happens ? :p

If you’re in 2 guilds, one on each side, Can you swap between them ? And what happens when you do ?

-the placement is not limited to your own server’s matchup, its across all tiers
-you cant switch to a different guild when you entered if that guild is not registered on your server or if that guild is registered on a different server (its greyed out while you are on the map)
-however you can switch to a different guild if the guild you’ll be switching is also registered to the same matchup map server your on (for claiming purposes and other purposes like recruitment)

Don’t like, simple reason, how are we ever going to bring fresh people into WvW ? Making it exclusive is going to backfire.

I understand the idea though, no spies etc.

-we can play with them on EoTM to introduce them to WvW
-its up to them if they want the HoT upgrade or not by then

-WvW guild that is registered on server A but the guild member player is on server B will be randomly moved to a different skirmish matchup

its for the PvX guilds who have members from different server
example: your guild Republicans [Trmp] which resides on server USA, is registered to WvW USA, and one of your members who is representing [Trmp] is currently residing in Mexico server, he/she will be placed on a more needed server for balance, it may be on your server’s match up or other matchup

Like this one, you planned to make OS into an instance then, so there could be multiple OS in play at the same time ? In that case might as well just ask them to cut out the Arena area alone for that. (And make the rest of OS into EotM Megaserver, so you can actually find people there)

thats the idea, here you can also introduce your new players to open field fights aside from karma train on EoTM

your guild has an option to register any time/day of the week, but the registration to your home server will on every WvW reset (think of it as a contract), lets say your guild want to WvW this week, then next week just pve or pvp or have exams/work to do so they lack cores to wvw
registration of a guild tells your server that he has your back and will stop at nothing to defend that server for 1 week and they gather guild points from it (fame popularity etc)

forgot to mention the registration fee,
1000 badges of honor for each guild (thinking of other currency but i doubt PvE currencies)

you’ll also get 1 omega, 5 sup rams, 5 sup cata, 2 sup ac for your guild

the npc says: “Thank you for choosing X server, your guild will be of great help in this war, use these to help you on the battlefield.” lel

forgive me on this, i just want to remind Anet about the guild pride and the WvW guilds being as the ace of a certain server they are the server’s pride, let this be a reminder that WvW has a purpose, WvW is a competition, WvW is love WvW is life

Dawdler.8521:

WvW 3.0 would lower the cap to 25 people and only allow players which have 2000 ranks and a hardcore GvG guild to join WvW, the rest get dumped into EoTM.

its already on tier3 and tier4 currently, try to play outside NA time

Dawdler.8521:

WvW 4.0 would remove one of the sides and make it 5v5 on small structured WvW maps.

again this is already implemented way before linking, see tiers 5, 6, 7, 8
it even had the 0vs0vs0 mode back then

Dawdler.8521:

WvW 5.0 is actually just PvE.

there is one Grub busting guild
and there is Trump bumping guild too currently
might want to add the guild skill Emergency Call to bring PvE players to WvW

oh, here is the E-Call in action
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy2ctamF0XQ

Reh.5986:

Interesting. Could still pug around as a guildless scrub too.

yah, the system is kind enough to let you do whatever anyone wants, but the system is strict enough to bring balance on every server

its not a free jump, you will be moved to a certain server (think of it as a map instance) when you enter WvW as a reinforcement on a server (yours or not yours) by the system on every skirmish period (2 hours? depends on the current WvW situation/population at that time), your guild is residing in example anvil rock you just register to your guild on the anvil rock and no other servers (same as “we are beasty guild who is residing in X server” type of advertisement in team chat), what is does is it lets you claim objectives upgrade it in short your guild will register to make a commitment for 1 week for your server there is no limitation on number of guilds to register as long as it resides on that server ofc the guild leader decides

about the large pvx guilds, they will be randomly fill the slots of other servers for balance if the guild doesn’t reside on a specific server or the members they have are from different servers unless they move the 300 slots to a specific server but then again there is the map cap of 50

time will tell if that cap can be increased or decreased further

edit: what it does on a registered guild?
the guild receives points at the end of the each skirmish/matchup, points that defines that guild fame, rank, category, glory, popularity
its a permanent record/achievement for that guild

-WvW Guilds from a server is required to register their guild on the npc every matchup

-Non Wvw guilds/ non registered guilds when entering a WvW map will be randomly moved to a server to balance the skirmish on any tier/matchup

-Players not representing the registered WvW guild or not representing a guild on that matchup will be moved to a different server to balance the man power per skirmish.

-F2P accounts are limited to EoTM

-WvW guild that is registered on server A but the guild member player is on server B will be randomly moved to a different skirmish matchup

-Server has a cap 50 players per server per map

-A hall/monument on PvP and on cities Lion’s Arch where we can see guilds registered on a server, this also serves as the recruitment guide for each server guilds.

-Registered Guilds can now queue 10v10 up to 30v30 on obsidian sanctum vs other guilds from every other server (all tiers) during a skirmish, this will give points on warscore

geegee Anet
geegee Tiers
geegee Bandwagon Servers

WvW map cap should be per server on the map not per map

example:
BG vs MaGET vs KainBP DB
(40) vs (40+40) vs (40+40+40)

and eventually will lead to
BG vs Mag vs DB
(40) vs (40) vs (40)

becuz those upper tiers will now have a real competition instead of the
“were on high tier because we stay competitive” saying they brainwashes themselves at

if they are competitive enough to remain in that tier against an opponent twice their size on a map at any given time i’ll believe them, if not…, then the so called tiers are the definition of imbalanced

de-stacking doesn’t need incentives
stacking needs penalty

just lower the population cap on WvW maps, no need adding new servers, merging or color coding, no polls needed

then adjust then population cap if the population grew from time

the answer to if is if you could make people interested in WvW and thats another topic…

seems like a Diku’s clone

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/New-Game-Mode-WvG-World-Vs-Globes/first#post6201802

Korgov.7645:

Norbe.7630:

Korgov.7645:

ANet already has an unreleased/unfinished feature for server population rebalancing. No details revealed. The feature was shelved while the server linking is in testing. There’s another thread discussing about it somewhere on this forum.

Hmmm, no details no dates and unfinished, so you wanted something you don’t know or doesn’t exist yet.
What if that balancing is completely turning WvW into EoTM, would most want that?

ANet originally wanted EotM to be an area where WvWers would spend time while in queue and also a zone separate from live WvW where new ideas could be tested. Both goals failed; live WvW is now a beta test zone and EotM is avoided by WvWers. I am sure they have learned from this disaster.

I know I do not want to continue with server linking. I want even less to return back to lower tiers being dead most time of the day. If ANet has a brilliant solution in their back pocket, bring it.

?

does the 1u1d remedy for the ppt win war solution?
ask yourselves, some of us want to face different people on the field
i wanna see other people how they fight on an open field, defending or attacking an obective

for years/months if its your kind of gameplay i cant argue
but is there really anyone here who fights on WvW, or most of you guys are just ppt bots

that is why im also against on the tiers
as long as there are tiers, no one can solve the population imbalance
take not its different from coverage
coverage is much harder to solve than population imbalance on the Fight side and not on the PPT side given the skirmish implementation
i can only think of the solution to those imbalance was player stat scaling just like the bosses and lords

Roamers are proud when they are being chased by groups
Little did they know this is them on the minds of those groups

Was I bait to pull you in
The thrill of the kill
You feel, is a sin

She Wolf – David Guetta ft Sia

biggest surprise poll Anet made on the balancing kitten
how i though we were getting along with you guys………

James Rustler.7860:

It worries me that the winning choice is essentially “give people even more incentive to stack servers”. It’s a terrible idea.

this is also what i fear in this poll…
i hope this will not be an imbalancing patch
brace yourselves lads

This poll is confusing

WvW Matchmaking Improvements:
*Replacing Glicko with a 1 up 1 down system.
*The world that wins the match moves up a tier; the world that loses the match moves down a tier.
*1 up 1 down system would be a test and we would be able to disable it to return to Glicko at any time.

Will WvW be reverted back to pre linking stage (individual server) and use KISS instead of glicko
or
Retain skirmish mode on individual server stage and use KISS instead of glicko
or
Retain linking and use KISS method

Korgov.7645:

ANet already has an unreleased/unfinished feature for server population rebalancing. No details revealed. The feature was shelved while the server linking is in testing. There’s another thread discussing about it somewhere on this forum.

Hmmm, no details no dates and unfinished, so you wanted something you don’t know or doesn’t exist yet.
What if that balancing is completely turning WvW into EoTM, would most want that?

Korgov.7645:

New players should have an equal footing in every aspect with more veteran players.

Does a new player with full exotics have no chance of defeating a full ascended with legendary weapons Diamond Legend? Let me tweak a little bit, an enemy Silver Knight perhaps?
Ofc on a siege/3rd party involvement the one with the most wxp upgrade breaks walls and doors faster on a 1 on 1 basis, but again this is WvW not PvP,

Korgov.7645:

You do cannot learn your profession if you only have access to few skills against opponents with all possible skills. You will just be frustrated that you have no counters to some attacks and that makes you lose every combat.

as i’ve explained before, slowly but surely
before you view WvW on a PvP perspective, you must first embrace what WvW is.
before dueling, learn how to roam/gank,
before ganking/roaming, learn how to zerg,
before zerging, learn how listen on commands
before everything else, buy a commander tag

Korgov.7645:

• Server population balance; server linking is not good enough
  -how do you do that?

• Base professions buffed to be just as powerful as specializations
  -1special trait + 2base trait = 3 traits is not equal to 3 base traits?
  -how would you buff the base traits without buffing also the special profession in the process?

• WvW masteries made baseline for all players (I don’t want to see anyone told off siege because they don’t have enough mastery levels yet)
  -play a little more time on WvW, maybe you’ll earn the right to be a siegemaster

• All best-in-slot gear/consumables made easily available for all players in WvW; no time gating; no grinding; *no PvE dependency!
  -WvW will be boring as hell if this were pushed, we all want diversity from time to time, no more stagnation.

• Players boosted to full level 80 with all skills unlocked when entering WvW
  -How would you learn your class?
  there is a saying, “slowly but surely”

• Guild War Chest items available by materials gained from WvW only; *no PvE dependency!
  -Triumphant Armor?

im in no QoL fan, i just want to face the main WvW problems

Few months old thread but certainly the one that broke the silence…

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Your-top-5-priorities-for-WvW-Overhaul/first#post5986337

The ideal purpose of the linkings is to provide players allies and enemies during their WvW playtime at any given timezone.

It is not some kind of bad medicine like for example a fine Salt where you wrap it in an aluminum foil, lit it then blow it in your nostrils. Where salt is used in food to make it taste better not for everyone to feel it inside them.

Back in the days before linking, us in lower tiers doesn’t care about your stupid PPT wars, we just want enjoy WvW while we are playing, finding an ally or an enemy back then was too kitten difficult in certain timezones. And its not enjoyable to play that way…

So do yourselves a favor, and please do, take a bath, wash yourselves, cuz the frustrations and perspiration you generate when they evaporate on your skin will turn into sodium also known as salt.

And from what ive seen, most players on low tiers before almost always have that outnumbered buff, that means they are born with the gift to become the zerg busters.
The ones that left those low tier servers are a second rate who doesn’t have the the skills to become one, they just born on that server lol.

got laggy connection but heres my settings for zergs

how i love blob mentality
imma fan too

WvW has linkings now, youll be paired with a server or two or three
aside from that, nothing major

so many people suggested the alliancy globally colory thingy to solve wvw population problems
they want WvW to be EoTM

i wonder if the wvw people suggested that or the eotm people
i dunno both modes are for this thread anyway the wvw forum section

edit:
i shall define what major changes for me is
a major change is something like you put another mode same as pvp on wvw but on a larger scale, you put 10v10 or 30v30 or 80v80 open field fight queues on the unnoticed and rarely used Obsidian Sanctum map

Aury.1367:

Norbe.7630:

hmmm…
i hope you wont come back here to complain on how easy is for your enemy spies to intercept your server’s ppt units and wipe by their fight squads

since gw2 is f2p, spying isnt worth it anymore since everyone can do it anyway. IF you have a spy account, and want to spy, you just log through each 4 maps or just go onto TS and then log your normal account. you will hear where the cmd is and where he borderhops.

what im saying is it would be easier for spies to spy, imagine you only have to afk in lions arch with your old laptop on opened WvW window while commanding, you dont have to map hop on your spy account, you just press the WvW map button at the same time listen to the message by wvwintel.com on whats happening on the other maps

hmmm…
i hope you wont come back here to complain on how easy is for your enemy spies to intercept your server’s ppt units and wipe by their fight squads

for me, every build is a viable option as long as you can stomp everyone on a 1vX scenario

if people call it cheesy build, i call it creativity nuff said….

Warlord.9074:

2 pages of people debating which servers have the best roamers and roaming in general.

cuz people doesn’t post videos as proofs so the so called debate goes on and on
no one believes anyone till they see it in their own eyes

lastly, also take into consideration the 50ms vs 300ms scenario
the gw2 netcode is as punishing as hell outside NA

i think bon posted this on the cancer forums before,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jyiy16RgI0c

hes not the one i saw who 1v10 pips but one of his guildmate
Q: does rex still plays wvw?

Jeknar sounded like Ragnar
is he a girl too… lol

hmmm….
ok time for my definition of a “roamer”
one is an elite player who can wipe a 1v10 battle
roamer its like the best among the best

given too much credit here for roamers……..

but ive seen one in action
caught it on video, posted it on cancer forums….
twas on DH vs GoM vs HoD or Ebay matchup pre linking

but today….
there is no roamer i can think of as Jek would say “a dying breed”

ive once been told on what a roamer is

Yuffi: “Norbe – you missed the point of being a roamer – our purpose is to solo cap camps, towers and keeps Please note it’s ok if you do this in a group of two or three, but anything over five in the party is cheating – I know because this is how it was in the bottom tiers at off peak times.”

so basically the server with the highest PPT has the best and most efficient roamers to date.

edit: lemme know if this answers your question to prevent this thread from turning into a match-up thread like its intended to do

DeceiverX.8361:

Along with an increase in spies, this is my biggest reasoning as to why F2P accounts should not be allowed in WvW. Let the legitimate trial-users try mass-scale in EoTM and see how they like it, and if they do and want to WvW, they can buy the game.

wouldn’t be the EoTM hardcore players go complain here about spying or trolling on their colors?

aside from that i agree on this one but its anet’s call because this is one of the flyers they introduced in gw2 as an advertisement

if they want this to advertise on public they better make at least a CGI mini series story or an anime on the story of Destiny’s Edge on YouTube at least if they don’t have the budget on small screen

ive seen one almost everyday when i log in
i wont tell the server to prevent something like bandwagoning etc
“Violet”

what??!!!

you dont know the….

Imma roamer who will make your @ss feel [PAIN]

or a whole legendary set of armor will do and be swaps appearance on what map you on
hehehe