Guild Wars 2

Its here. I read it too but it was awhile back. Ill post if I find.

Warmonkey makes really good points, except the fact that this game is extremely buggy for 2012, and the combat just seems so shallow.

I just wish there was a straight support/healer profession

Funny thing is, teamfortress had a medic. So your point fails. I like playing a straight buffer/healer and its not in this game, so I play it mega casually (once a week) caus I don’t like dpsing. Also I was promised any class could do anything, and that’s not the case, actually torchlight 2 does it best.

Ok ill go play tpvp as MM since there’s nothing gamebreaking. Rofl sup fanboiiiiiiii. (If your post was sarcasm I take it back!)

There’s only one reason people don’t like the holy trinity and its because they want to faceroll dps the whole time and complain there’s no tanks or healers. All I see is fanboys defending a game that failed its predecessor and are ignoring how shallow the combat really is IN PVP. There’s 2 classes with over 80 bugs, and all of them have at least a few. Invisible armys, stealth nerfs, class imbalances, ugh its already been stated the game is for casuals, like 1-2 log ons a week casual. I’m also laughing hysterically that they think they’re pvp will be an E-sport.

Edit: besides being a bit grindy – TERA has real live action combat, and healers don’t sit in the back. They have to run into melee and heal, where mana isn’t the issue anymore, its positioning. That games combat is miles above this one and you need to aim, which is what I thought u needed to do in this one but not really. All it is is place your aoe here.
You don’t need to get rid of the holy trinity to show skill

Reasons why I quit

- go play a necro at 80. They’ve been “bug” fixing us for a month but somehow we’ve gotten worse… (They don’t fix minion ai, broke plague signet even more, and our trait synergy is garbage)
-WvWvW is buggy as hell, with no skill involved, and I can’t see half the people I’m fighting. What is this 2004?
-sPvP is good, along with Tpvp but with no matchmaking/elo/ladder system, me and my 4 friends who are casual get paired up with the top tpvp team? No thanks
-lack of holy trinity and end game pve (yes I LIKE to heal kitten )
-lack of keeping pve and pvp seperate
-lack of game modes and maps in spvp/tpvp
-lack of gamebreaking bug fixes, but at least we will have halloween kitten
-lack of maturity on forums from mods (and players [this relates to all mmos tho])
-lack of communication in game. What I mean is ya now nobody fights over anything but they made the game almost as if it was a 1player co-op. Never thought I’d say it but I do miss a bit of the barrens chat :p

Was it worth my 60 bucks, yes. Redifining MMOs? No but had the potential. You should have tore a few pages from LoL, WoW and gw1 and maybe I’d still be playing.
That’s my exit review. I didn’t make to 80 before I was bored. And I play casually so go take your “you shouldn’t have rushed” theory out the door.

Edit: Lack of ui and Lack of an in depth combat. It just feels for me guild wars 2 is missing something that should be there.

Internet Sport. Like lol, halo, cs etc… And my 2 cents, it never will be an E-sport.

Anet doesn’t buff people, re gw1. Its fix/makeworse/or nerf

I stopped reading before page 1 was even done, all you guys are talking about is wvwvw and kittening spvp? Anyones good in those. Also, remember, we have 1 or 2 good builds. What we don’t have is the reason I bought this game. To go any spec and be viable. I can tell most of the older necro players (such as myself from beta) have quit because there’s less troll and flame threads because we all left. The past 3 patches I looked at and have been severely disappointed and has verified my decision on going to TERA.
As for JP getting owned while playing necro, I won’t flame him for doing bad I’m actually glad. Maybe now he can realize its not as easy as oh just learn 2 use ds bro lololol. Anyways that’s my 2 cents.

Tl;dr – the flame and rage stems from beyond just realease and basing a class off 1 bad f1 skill is really a bad idea. I’m a necro, and summoning minions, controlling boons and conditions is what I rolled. Not a shadowmage or a class that’s debuff and boon control is outshined by ever other profession. GfG

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I agree Kaarnak. Why are they trying to balance out random skills already? Makes me wonder how Overpowered they think we are that once the bugs are fixed; they’re going to have to nerf us so might as well do it all at once. Hahah

Tl:dr this whole thread

If your good, you used it for LF generation at the start and swapped it off anyways
If your bad you see might = more dmg= we are better nao right!?
Fix the bugs first before fiddling with skills. God I thought blizzard was bad at release, how much of a share did you give NCSoft Anet? What happened since gw1

Lololol. “I do hope this clarifys your stupidity”. You theorycraft soo much you must be an engineer! (I don’t mean the profession I mean the career). Because engineers always theory craf and design things and its amazing and perfect. Till it comes into actual play, where it usually never works. Its ok, I do hope this clarifys your stupidity.

Tl;dr. – aoe caps at 5 bruh. Theorycraftmemorederp

Wow had a lot of bugs and everything during release…. But very little were actually classes not working. Imagine if none of your talents worked or say half of the beast mastery tree was mixed in the marksmanship. If wvwvw wasn’t half decent/good I’d tell people to stay way from this game or never roll necro. They aren’t putting effort in, we missed 3patches while warrs guards and thieves kept getting buffs. BUFFs to already OP classes. I’m calling Anet out, they won’t have more than 5bug fixes next week for necro. Just you watch. As someone has said… These have been around longer than 1month. Its 1month since release not since the game has been around.

Edit: ignoreance is bliss. Were fine l2 deathshroud

Spec full glass cannon and watch how little our reward is vs risk compared to any other (besides ele) class is. You had a decent pug and know how to play in dungeons. Congrats, we are still broken/bugged and besides doing aoe blinds so my group can push forward in wvwvw I don’t feel like I’m doing much else >.>

Ioj player here. Last week our NA guild xferred to ioj on the last day of getting pounded by et. If anyone from FA and SoS will tell you, <BP> isn’t a force to be taken lightly. We plan on giving ET a good fight this week and I really look forward to this weeks matchups. Well played SoS and FA, minus the few orb hackers (can’t blame the server for a couple people). GL all and BP will see you on the battlefield!

So after reading 3 pages before getting bored of the same arguement I’d like to TL:DR this whole thread:

If you think you need more stat points, gear, or “bonuses” for playing massively more than someone, MOP Just came out… Its that way >>>

As for saying "once people burn out from pvping for “fun” " that’s bull. I have been gaming for 10 years (mostly just pvp) and I’m sure I won’t get bored, ever, of pvp. Getting tired of all the WoW players trying to make this game WoW or DaOC. Its its on game and I’m glad everyone has the same gear and stats.

Also, don’t forget, more than half the time they don’t move, get stuck, die in one hit, don’t regen for the next fight, and attack neutral mobs.

With a better ai and a minor trait that let’s minions avoid 80% of aoe attacks, I would MM spec

I don’t understand the hype on epidemic. In wvwvw with so many people clearing conditions it just seems not that good. And with no penalties for clearing our conditions it just seems like a meh skill (in wvwvw) I also agree with jackal and cerulean. Solo, sure consume conditions, but if I wasn’t running with WOB on my bar with my guild, I’d be kicked.

Also, anyone else find it funny nobody steps in our wells? I’ve been using my wells as a push/zoning technique and its quite rewarding to me. Watching people scurry back from the aoe while my group pushes forward is golden.

Ah ok makes a bit of sense then cerulean. I don’t play a dagger build and completely forgot about the fury boost.

1second delay is a nerf? If your popping into ds for less than a second, your definately doing it wrong

And yes happens to me (even plague caus I have that bound to something other than 0)

Edit: spelling and bracing myself for flames. I just don’t see how popping ds for a 1sec fear and leaving instantly is a good idea. I guess only if life transfer is down but if you need a fear that bad, you might as well just stay in it for a bit and let some cd’s reset

To be honest I’m running a 15/20/0/20/15 build in wvwvw. I’m not 80 so its just my theorycrafting. I took life and plague blast grant might for stacking, castable wells, and life transfer heals allies, I took shorter well duration and I forget (will post build when I’m at home) and 15 into the bottom tree for spectral armor at 50%. I don’t see anyone with this build and the level I’m at its doing prettykittenwell for wvwvw. Just stack might from afar, drop your wells, and life transfer. I prefer using plague form over lich, its les obvious and not many people use the spam blind (plague 2). I can hold of groups of people with plague spamming constant blinds while my guild aoes from afar. Comments questions and critiques welcome (when I post the link)

Spvp I do fine, its spvp and I’m not bad (daoc, ac, 2200+ arenas in wow, 1700 elo in LoL etc etc) not bragging just saying I’m well versed in pvp. Tpvp I get wrecked, only viable build is tanky well bunker build. I’m working to 80 in wvwvw only to get more “skill” accodring to jon. My findings:
Spvp – not bad (not bad where everyone else is amazing)
Tpvp – besides one spec and very situational teams, we are garbage
Pve – haven’t done much, can’t comment
WvWvW- this is where I think we shine in more of a support role, I will edit and post the build I’m running with and having a fun time.

+1 for rerolling (I can’t but props to everyone. I hate all the other classes imo and I’m one of 3 full time necros in our 200man guild so they won’t let me reroll one of the upsides of being 2% played profession)
+1 for keeping this thread realitvely rage free and +1 for 10k + views
My build is a random one, 15/20/0/20/15

Tl:dr. Nice thread, and anything you think your doing good, another profession standing beisde you is doing it better.

Your trolly attempts (yes attemptS) to get me to click your youtube video so you can make money have failed good sir. Keep on keepin on though OP

Ps. Your garbage

Who talks about pve? A bunch of people grouped together is… You got it a mob!

The fact that u could activate it, run into a mob, drop your aoe wells, turn DS and lifetransfer and the walk would take u back. He percieves it as a nerf because you have to pop out of ds and manually activate the port back. Basically “Anet, u nerfed da spectral walk qq I have to think while i play”

Fixing tooltips and buffing an ability not many people use. Buffing traits NOBODY uses because the larger issue (vampiric? Too bad it heals for garbage, oh Minion Master! Good thing minions are garbage) of still being sokitteninbugged. Ill appreciate effort, when effort is shown.

Side note – good thing heartseeker spamming won’t miss as much!

Im currently 30 and have a few questions. I mostly wvwvw even for leveling and was wondering if anyone has a boss as kitten healing build? So farm im running healing turret, elixer gun, elixer s. And elixer b (might switch that to U for more field combos) Just. wondering more or less should i switch elixer gun for another elixer? Which traits compliment the most healing and buffs?

Thanks all

I can read just fine and I know exactly what he said. I get that onedoesnotsimply fix a class… but until these changes are live, I don’t believe a word of it. Check out todays patch
notes, good thing a couple of our bugs wer… Err

All I’m saying is these bugs have been around for awhile, and its just disheartening to see every class get tweaks and buffs and quality of life fixes and were suppose to “use ds moar”. I hope Jon comes through don’t get me wrong. Just sceptical.

Also

Kittens.

Hate to burst your bubble BCDragon, but like a few people have said before, we were suppose to get some love in bwe1 and we were told it was comming. What we got was a scepter nerf, so please, if you have some inside info on when we will get this patch let us know. We’ve already been waiting for a long time…

OP: 1. Aoe havoc on the keep walls
2. So many fields as well spec
3. Fun as heck/highest skill ceiling

In its current state the class is levelable. Once your 80 have fun laying wells down and giving everyone combo fields so they can do better while you just apply debuffs to YOURSELF because your signets are bugged and your minions (especially golem) troll you!

But its fine, OP just needs to go more into power/crit and spam DS according to Jonny. Even though that bar is pretty much eatin in 3hits unless your tanky, but then your not DS build so your doing it wrong

I’d like to start off by saying thank you to the community in saving me a lot of time and rage and have (like most) decided to re-roll. Apparently I don’t know how to play my necro as john has said, and while I do agree we will have to see how we fair once all the bugs are ironed out, who knows when that will be? Also, who’s to say other Profs won’t be even more op when their bugs are ironed out.

Anyways tons of threads on this anyways, just wondering what you all have rolled until things change. I’m greatly enjoying my support (elixer throwing) alchemist engineer. Sad thing is, I’m specced into vit and healing and do on par damage as my 40 nec at 20. Not to mention dem grenades in WvWvW.
Thanks John… For showing me engineer!

Players using jagged horrors to recover from downed state…working as intended?
- Didnt know about the Blood Fiend one!

edit for no +1 and better wording