Guild Wars 2

Mesmers are in a good spot right now and it’s nice seeing them around for the sake of class diversity. FYI, I don’t play one that well and am being unbiased.

They got nerfed already and if they get nerfed any further, they might end up as underwhelming as engies. Sure some engie builds can be viable and I still love playing mine but their traits don’t meld too well

It’s more like “weakends”

I understand what this OP went through. What’s ironic is that the most toxic people actually belong to the lower tiers. A lot of serial pvpers are civilized and don’t lambast their teammates on team or mapchat.

I suggest that you thicken up and not let them have any power over you. In the end, you lose if you quit playing the game you enjoy bcoz you allowed the behavior of socially inept individuals get to you

Cynz.9437:

Now here is the question: who do you think was carrying whom when i was doing ranked? Scrubs carried me or i carried scrubs?

lowbie carried the scrubs

/cheer

Lvl 1 ftw, Lvl 1 4lyf

Keep low levels out of ranked?!?!

That’s racist

(more like unaware, out of place elitist)

choovanski.5462:

ofc classes can apply condis faster than you can outheal and damage them. if they couldn’t they would never be able to kill you. power damage builds can out damage your heals and have more damaging skills than you have blocks. you can’t tank either type of damage infinitely you mong. you have to cc and kill them, not just fail around popping cleanses.

good thing condi has aoe cleanses, so condis are not viable in coordinated teamfights. one bunk guard, shout warr, or good ele and ya fine.

Why are you being rational and reasonable? Are you okay? I hope you’re okay

Appreciate OPs honestly about how ridiculously low risk-high reward the fire line is. Last time I played heavy ele was a couple years ago but got back to playing it heavily again a few months back.

The burns, blinds and burning speed dps all on low cd plus might has made me a worse player. I was so spoiled by the ele d/d fire/water/arcane build I felt other classes were underpowered. It really dumbed me down.

But I beat my ele addiction by playing less of it while re-optimizing my other classes.

ronpierce.2760:

Pimsley.3681:

A burn guardian applied 14 stacks on me but I managed to survive long enough to beat him. I may have gotten lucky but builds that could stack high burns are squishier. The only somewhat problematic burn skill is elementalist ring of fire. Balancing should be done on a per class/build basis.

Still doesn’t handle the situation where Burning is 5x stronger than every other condition while also being one of the easiest to stack consistently. It’s actually easier to tack burning in many cases than even bleeding in many cases. Something is really not right with this picture. Burning needs to go down a bit and be compensated with duration. Certain skills that are too weak then can be given an extra stack (as see fit) or more duration. But burning should not be 1:5 in terms of bleeding. Like wise, most other conditions need to be bumped up. This patch was meant to help conditions but mathematically nerfed bleeding, where the break even point is somewhere close to 2.1k condition damage from pre-patch bleeds.

Undeniably, regardless of your siding of how powerful Burning is, you must be able to admit that Burning is currently essentially the “meta-condition”, and vastly out powers any other.

I totally see where you are coming from with the burn:bleed ratio. 20+ stacks of bleeds barely hit 2000/sec. Burns have always been more powerful than bleeds but burns have never stacked as high as they do now. After large patch, they reduced burn damage but allowed certain classes to stack them higher.

One thing to consider though, If they slightly nerf burns and slightly buff bleeds, (both could be extremely devastating) certain classes may not have enough access to cleansing.

Legendary Champion title = Champion Slayer 2.0

I don’t say this because I’ve had the title for over a year and not mean much to me. It’s just that some of the folks that proudly sport it have little knowledge of rotations and map awareness.

I have over 1000+ wins on 3 classes and feel the titles were deserved. Since there isn’t a LB, I’ve been motivating myself to continue playing the game by accumulating additional titles. IMO, 150 wins isn’t enough to master a class. It’s barely enough to master a build.

A burn guardian applied 14 stacks on me but I managed to survive long enough to beat him. I may have gotten lucky but builds that could stack high burns are squishier. The only somewhat problematic burn skill is elementalist ring of fire. Balancing should be done on a per class/build basis.

I just want to add that necromancer wells are not in the same league of OPness as RoF, especially in spvp. Wells have a very long CD and more importantly, they take up utility slots. RoF only has a 10s CD traited, from the dagger off-hand.

Aside from the short cd without taking up utility slots, damage from wells is capped through pulses. I know the demonstration from that video is unrealistic but it is still frightening that the skill is capable of doing insane overkill damage with no capped pulses.

Cynz.9437:

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Vapour.7348:

Cynz.9437:

DaShi.1368:

The d/d ele simply isn’t as OP as you think it is. 90% of it’s damage can be mitigated just by moving around. The rest you have blocks, dodges, blinds, and cleanse for. Killing a d/d ele can be tough, but getting killed by one…I can’t remember the last time.

um those tactics may have worked before patch when it was actually possible to interrupt ele in fire w/o being perma blinded, when CDs on fire weren’t so low and burning didn#t stack and didn’t have such absurd base numbers…..

blind is close to worthless vs ele besides very few cases as most of theit dmg is aoe or channeled

oh i am sry i can count very few builds that actually have blocks and none of them are effective vs current dd ele

no cleanse in game can keep up with ele condi uptime (besides other ele ofc)

yeah it just takes at least 2 players or another ele to kill 1 ele…. balance archived guize!

My last match our ele beat 2 thieves at home and was boasting how good he was coz his HP was full. I wanted to say it was Anet’s ele programmer that was good. But seriously, I think we have a problem when one class can effortlessly beat 2 thieves and still have full HP.

i was talking about similar skill level but yeah you got the idea

I think she’s a pro girl thief

why do i get a weird feeling of being stalked

lol. what? no

It’s just rare to see females pvp with the hardest class to master in a community with a 1:50 female to male ratio. That’s pretty cool, you know. I failed at thief

Well i would rather not advertise it.
Also, each its own. I could never find any love for engi or ranger when i tried those classes. I am however glad when i have good engi on my team for example

Good thieves are such a huge asset to a team. It sounds like you know your stuff. I play in NA and used to 2-3man queue with an aggressive capping thief. Map aware thieves are the best teammates IMO

Gakeman.5296:

Wasnt my personally best match, but definitely cool to watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B846bcKr-_Q

That match was ridiculous. One of the best vidz I’ve seen.

Yup, necro main here. I call this the “condi ricochet bug” because it is triggered by the transferring of condis back to opponents in team fight encounters. It’s been around for a long time but wasn’t as common during the terrormancer era.

This bug could really hurt our class in a big way and feel it needs immediate attention before it goes out of control.

Maybe these guys can inspire you

Bhawb.7408 – he’s sorta like the necro ambassador
Over Powered Necro – top 10 or 20 team LB
Jayce – been playing necro since beta. catch him in NA hj

There are more but I don’t think they stream or have a way for you to see them play.

Phantaram.1265:

Necro has no mobility so if a fight looks sour we can just call for nos to die on node and the rest of us rotate and be useful. Nos can rez and +1 or fight a 1v1 at home, both of which is something Necro is extremely proficient at.

I turned down my friends 3am drunken grub run to Denny’s for WTS Friday night.

Appreciate you sharing the scrims w/ EU and backstory towards the development of your rotations. Also, I’m glad you explained the role of the necromancer. The anti-necro sentiment on twitch chat was excessive. I wanted to say things were probably going as planned with necro but twitch chat isn’t the best place to reason w/ people.

Helseth creating artificial conflict was very clever because it evoked a reaction/response from people. Ultimately, it made the event something people looked forward to. He has a strong personality, that’s a good thing.

Incredible Toker rotations. So I’d say him. Wish most thieves played at 20% his level.

TCG and ORNG are very fortunate because their rivalry constantly puts them at the top of their game.

Abjured lacks that. They have no peers in NA

I’m glad you guys are putting the effort to organize these competitive events! It’s great that they are centered on mid tiered SoloQers

Glitchfull.5826:

Why is engineer in the middle? Having more buttons does not equal being more skilled. That doesn’t mean that engineer doesn’t have things they must learn, but it’s nothing that every other class has to do already. They have and most likely will always be a safe pick for just about anything.

Actually yes, having more buttons require more skill as it adds an extra layer of complication.

Landing nades takes tons of skill. It is considerably harder to land nades on your target than arrows or bullets. It takes longer to master an engineer than any of the classes except maybe the thief.

Velimere.7685:

I consistently lost to Trap Ranger as a Dagger/Dagger Elementalist today while practicing 1v1; it was harsh because he would time his condition stacking against my Water Attunement. I got lucky once and beat him once, though.

That said, I don’t think it makes for a good hard counter given that an Elementalist more experienced with the match-up could save his Cantrips (or specifically just Lightning Flash) to get out of the Traps and Bonfire after getting hit with Entangle or Muddy Terrain.

Hi Velimere – yep the best eles are also the most annoying sometimes because you can never kill them. They bail out to help secure another point instead of fighting to the end…which I think is also very smart. .

LughLongArm.5460:

Pimsley.3681:

Pre-patch I had a ranger specifically for countering eles if we were going against 2 of them.

It wasn’t a popular build but it did well against eles and rejecting shoutbow warriors banner. 2/0/6/6/0.

Condi rangers have not benefited from burn damage as much as eles and guards have. The spec I ran pre patch got watered down badly.

Ignoring team composition or any kind of team play whatsoever, I’m sure a similar ranger build can be made post patch that could counter ele 1v1.

LOl man, 2-0-6-6-0 was one of the post popular trait setup outhere, even LB build started to use it cus it was so defensive.
Condi rangers can kill D/D ele but now sometimes they run dimondskin which makes everything much harder.

I created that build to initially counter hambow warriors around the time they started picking up heat then later refined it to poison master/survival cleanse as a defense to shoutbows and eles. I don’t spend as much time in-game as I used to pre-patch but you’ve piqued my curiosity about countering diamond skin ele.

mesmers got nerfed already…………………………………………………………………………………………..

i’d probably hate and quit this game if class diversity is reduced further.

Pre-patch I had a ranger specifically for countering eles if we were going against 2 of them.

It wasn’t a popular build but it did well against eles and rejecting shoutbow warriors banner. 2/0/6/6/0.

Condi rangers have not benefited from burn damage as much as eles and guards have. The spec I ran pre patch got watered down badly.

Ignoring team composition or any kind of team play whatsoever, I’m sure a similar ranger build can be made post patch that could counter ele 1v1.

Noted.

I won’t forget you, ForgottenLegend.

Interesting history on the skills in question, now I know whey theyre wonky. Took a break from game and haven’t played ele since 2013.

Thanks ArthurDent. Makes sense for me to just pansy out and use Fire Grab to cleave downed instead of predictable rotation. Don’t like wasting anything with a 45/30s traited cd.

Huge relief I’m not alone on how bad Churning Earth is. I just couldn’t find an ideal situation for it in combat.

Nice sig. Props to your accomplishments, that’s insane!!!

I’d be stoked if we were against 4 thieves because it will be a very quick match that would probably end in our favor. Thieves don’t stack very well.

I don’t play unranked often but I remember rangers used to do well on Spirit Watch. due to its terrain

It’s quite alarming though that only 2 people could score on red team.

What’s sad is that due to the lack of people queuing, sometimes I get teamed with people that are painfully (to me) inexperienced in ranked.

Hi eles,

Is there a method to landing Fire Grab?

I haven’t been very successful landing it.

Also, when do you apply Churning Earth, if ever used. I’ve used it to bait people to leave radius for a while but I’m not certain that’s the most ideal method.

Appreciate this OP’s humor and sarcasm. His posts and comments are hard to disagree with, unlike a lot of the stuff here.

Chaotic.9742:

Pimsley.3681:

JoshuaRAWR.4653:

8 Deaths? what did you do, afk in mists?

That or maybe it’s his ERP character

“Kitty Kat’s on her ninth life” – OP

;)

A leaderboard would be nice.

I started the last test ladder season one week late and it was an uphill climb to 500 especially when queuing solo. It was still a lot of fun and thought people put in more effort towards map objectives.

Way more people PvP’d during the last 2 test ladders.

Something to strive for makes everything more meaningful.

JoshuaRAWR.4653:

8 Deaths? what did you do, afk in mists?

That or maybe it’s his ERP character
abc so op

Thaddeus.4891:

The worst is that OP wasn’t even unlucky with all that, he just made a super bad investment from the start. Buying Dreamthisle a couple of month ago was a terrible idea. Those skin were at their highest prices already. He just had to see the difference between sell and buy order. People were ready to pay like 500-600 gold, but the sell order were at between 1k and 3k. Usually, buy order follow the sell order. When there is such a big difference between them, it’s because most people aren’t ready to pay that amount of gold the seller are asking. Which mean, that even if Anet did put the skin back into the game, OP probably would had a very hard time selling his skin.

Add the fact that we know that Anet was about to put most BLTC skin in the game until the 3rd anniversary and you just have a terrible investment.

Spot on.

The actual “value” of a skin is how close the buy and sell amounts are. Heck anyone with gold could list a skin at any amount but you get an estimate of its worth by how much people are willing to buy it for.

Perfect examples of these are ghastly grinning shield, chainsaw gs, aetherized hammer, super pistol…

I bet that sucks having supply increase on you when you bought near peak. It’s not a loss until you sell it so it’s prolly best if you hold on to them for the mean time.

The one thing I don’t understand is why the high price point on this skin set. I think it uses the same skin as weapons from the dungeon in Caledon Forest (forgot the name, lol, I haven’t pve in a long time) except that is has a light green glow.

I think the most unique weapons are: aetherblade sword, axe, hammer
Scarlets rifle (the invisible one)

Neil Young when people are nacl irrational:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO8kTRv4l3o

Bill Withers when I’m about to snap:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYi7uEvEEmk

+1 for the screenies guys.

I like what I’m seeing!!!

Crimson Clouds.4853:

I reaaally like T3 heavy cultural for charr, but so far haven’t had a use for it. I will eventually make a male charr revenant or guardian to use it on. I love the mix of plate, cloth (and cloth wraps) along with those stylised lion heads and spikes. Not a fan of the headpiece, but overall I think it’s the best looking heavy armour for charrs.

Here’s my female charr warrior in Arah dungeon armour. I dyed it to match the shadow weapons I have equipped on her- so mainly purple, black and a kind of light-brown colour.

Here’s a gallery: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Charr_male_heavy_armor

+1 TY

Hi Vague, I don’t think zapv was condescending to you at all. Your post has alarmed, maybe even offended necros due to some of the false claims that you’ve made, i.e.:
“I’m surprised necros seem to be getting a free pass when it comes to balancing.”

Our class has gotten very little buffs and huge nerfs that was kickstarted by the dhumfire nerf of 2013. It went downhill from then on. The June 23 patch gave us some sustain, but that’s really it. One of our elites’ duration got cut down in half, from 30s to 20s to 15s with no CD reduction.

And you’ve completely ignored today’s nerf to Unholy Martyr and Vampire signet

online.1278:

Warrior is kinda at lowest position, and i also found that rampage got nerfed today haha…

Yeah, that’s really all I’m trying to say – warriors are not in a good spot right now.

The rampage nerf does very little because the class needs an entire trait specialization over-haul

Engies got knocked down so bad from June 23 patch that whatever non-nerf we got today got me stoked.

In the last week, I saw Tarcis in hotm 3 times…on his ele.

IDGAF when people said shout/hambow were cheesy because the builds, especially shoutbow, offered amazing team support. I loved playing shoutbow, it was the most selfless build ever and the whole team benefited from it.

Then the June 23 update came where it allowed warriors to stay relevant but only by a thread thru Rampage.

Today’s slight nerf to rampage isn’t the problem. I think it’s the trait specializations lacking in synergy and build diversity. So many grandmaster traits based on adrenaline….yet it sucks how fast it drains out

Btw, nerfing shouts was the lamest thing ever.

Today’s update has made my engie less grumpy.

I think the healing bombs are gone forever, replaced by Bunker Down. What sucks about that is you are forced to choose amulets with high precision.

The update isn’t perfect but it’s definitely to the right direction.

Engineer
•Hip Shot: Increased the range to 1200.
•Net Shot: Increased the range to 1200.
•Blunderbuss: Increased the range to 700.
•Overcharged Shot: Increased the range to 600.
•Jump Shot: Increased the range to 800.
•Over Shield: Fixed a bug that prevented this trait from properly reducing the recharge of the Static Shield skill.
•Mortar Kit—Flash Shell: Fixed an issue that caused this skill to pulse every 2 seconds instead of every second.
•Bomb Kit—Smoke Bomb: Fixed an issue that caused this skill to detonate at the player location rather than the bomb location.

Appearance wise, not stats. This is my first male Charrior and need inspiration on what skins to use.

Heavy armor look so much better on Charr.

Feel free to post a screenie of your Charrior if you play one

When I queue with one of these Combat Healer/Champion Slayer bad boys…

Instead of nerfing eles, I feel buffing or reworking trait synergies on certain classes could have a more positive effect to pvp.

It’s been stated that the company has committed its development resources towards expansion. I don’t know if that means they have no time for PVP and is only committed to the PVE mode of the expansion. I’m hoping that’s not the case

Thanks guys. I have played a little bit of fresh air and d/d (back when you could stack boon duration from runes) but I like the game play much more now. Slowly becoming my fave class even though I’m still inexperienced.