I’m pretty sure WP said only axe #3 breaks target and that it would be nice if the elite did, too, not that it does.
I agree. This is what I want, it’s a tome. What we get is a tome in name only, they’re floating pages.
Tome cooldowns are my gripe, too.
F1 is 30 sec
F2 is 45 sec
F3 is 90 sec
The only thnig I saw so far that justifies the cooldown is F3 being able to cast 5 mesmer Feedbacks in a row, but you can’t use any other weapon or tome skills.
The portal can be used by allies https://youtu.be/nqj-yOPEudA?t=4m16s
I think regaining charges will be a universal mantra change, but the final charge mechanic might be Firebrand exclusive, like Wells worked for chrono.
I’m an idiot and didn’t see it before, but that just said that when you gain Mirage Cloak, your illusions get it, which means phantasms. Phantasm build support?
Phantasms get it, but they don’t get ambush attacks.
This is the last grandmaster http://i.imgur.com/xaolmWU.png
If you have better luck reading it, let me know.
“Granting quickness to an ally also grants ???”
I see a burning icon, probably some offensive buff.
Edit: Clear picture from reddit https://puu.sh/wYZFK/589ae213f7.png
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wvw does not matter at all tho, lol
raiding matters
Guardians does not raid. We watch how other specs raid,. Thats our good spot.
But I thought guardians are best support..
We are best support but with lack of dps and heal.
So best at what?
Stability bot.
“support” lolprotection bot
too bad no one really needs protection lol
And if they need it, druid can summon Stone Spirit. Having a hammer guardian for protection when it does as much damage as a PS is a joke.
F2 has swiftness. And one of the mantras does too.
F3 #2 is an AoE taunt, #3 is basically mesmer’s Feedback, #4 is pulsing AoE resistance, #5 is protection, retal and +300 toughness. F3 does have a huge 90 sec cd, though.
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Firebrand mantras seem to gain charges over time. There’s also a mechanic that the last charge has a more powerful effect.
The heal mantra is a self heal that grants AoE aegis. The charge recharge is 12 seconds, so it’s designed to combo with the 2 quickness traits (quickness on aegis and heal).
The axe has an auto chain, all attacks hit twice and infict bleed, bleed and burn in that order.
Axe #2 Symbol of Vengeance pulses bleeding instead of boons. (8 sec cd)
Axe #3 is a pull that burns. (12 sec cd)
Minor traits:
Equipping or dropping a tome grants 3 seconds of quickness (5 sec icd).
So it seems Firebrand is indeed the quickness stacker that was leaked.
Peachy showed some of the traits: https://clips.twitch.tv/ImportantHonestJamAsianGlow
AoE quickness on using a heal skill, sharing stability or aegis also grants quickness. And there seems to be at least 1 tome skill that applies aoe quickness.
This is my main class. Flaming is blowing holes to your non-existing argument?
wvw does not matter at all tho, lol
raiding matters
Guardians does not raid. We watch how other specs raid,. Thats our good spot.
But I thought guardians are best support..
We are best support but with lack of dps and heal.
So best at what?
Theres a bit where he claims Mirage is massivly overtuned and makes out that he is about to do some crazy OP 4x Unload with scepter clones. The clones and Mirage attacks and does 600 damage each for a grand total of 2400 damage. If thiefs unload did 2400 damage thiefs would kittening riot and thats 1 skill that they can spam adnausium.
I know WP is more of a Lore guy but is he really this clueless about how the game actually plays?
Do you know what conditions are?
They are that thing that Unload also applies.
So the answer is no.
Theres a bit where he claims Mirage is massivly overtuned and makes out that he is about to do some crazy OP 4x Unload with scepter clones. The clones and Mirage attacks and does 600 damage each for a grand total of 2400 damage. If thiefs unload did 2400 damage thiefs would kittening riot and thats 1 skill that they can spam adnausium.
I know WP is more of a Lore guy but is he really this clueless about how the game actually plays?
Do you know what conditions are?
Depending on the traits you choose, you also get a huge dps spike, since you get a special attack when you auto and your clones can do the same.
Where is this info coming from? I watched the reveal videos and it had none of this?
Woodenpotatoes’ post show showed this interaction.
It lasts slightly longer, and it doesn’t interrupt your casts from what I’ve seen.
Depending on the traits you choose, you also get a huge dps spike, since you get a special attack when you auto and your clones can do the same.
wvw does not matter at all tho, lol
raiding matters
Guardians does not raid. We watch how other specs raid,. Thats our good spot.
But I thought guardians are best support..
Official trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp_j4CQ-YfM
More Footage:
https://youtu.be/nflQFIFnpVo?t=22s
Some cool spell circle effects. What looks like a water field that grants quickness. A symbol (?) that pulses resistance.
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Why support cause we have already very good support????
Ahahahahaha
Raid build with sword instead of Scepter and fried dumplings. Like there’s any point in making a dedicated build, let alone craft new gear for open-world. The rest is learning how to dodge.
if the announcement is going to be about 10 mins, then you shouldn’t expect anything but the release date, how to preorder if anet is doing that, the area we are going to, and maybe a couple of the more major features. as in, announcing “another round of elite specs” and not anything more in depth than that.
the hot preview took like 4 hours to stream all the specs.
The schedule says the announcement will be 30 minutes.
too short to detail elite specs
Of course.
But it’s not the duration, why would anyone ever think they would reveal everything in their very first stream?
Does Dragonhunter have the 4th highest large target dps with a kittened simple rotation? Yes.
It doesn’t. The benchamark assumes 100% Unscathed Contenter uptime, which is impossible.
Not impossible, just hard. Actually not that hard since you don’t have a hard rotation to worry about.
No, it’s impossible. Boss auras in raids pop aegis.
You are assuming we get to bring any utility in our dps spec. The current one doesn’t allow for that, what makes you think the future one does?
You are putting words in my mouth. If it brings no utility, then welcome to the world of Necro, DD, DH, Tempest.
The math says differently. The past experience from mesmer balance patches says differently. Our clunky class mechanic says differently.
Leaks say differently.
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if the announcement is going to be about 10 mins, then you shouldn’t expect anything but the release date, how to preorder if anet is doing that, the area we are going to, and maybe a couple of the more major features. as in, announcing “another round of elite specs” and not anything more in depth than that.
the hot preview took like 4 hours to stream all the specs.
The schedule says the announcement will be 30 minutes.
I doubt the August 1st stream will go into details. They will show us a trailer and gameplay footage to reveal the mounts and some sneak-peaks of the elite specs, then they will discuss about the general details of the expansion, talk to a couple of devs then announce the pre-order/pre-purchase.
They have 3 months before the expansion, they need to keep interest up and the elite spec reveal streams were very popular, so that’s what they are going to do.
Wvw guardian is support, pve DH needs damage, the two are not related. They can split skills, so that’s not an excuse either, having a system and not using it is being lazy.
In fact, wvw guardians don’t really take DH unless they are roaming, and DH is not even good at roaming. Add 5% more to Big Game Hunter and buff GS #1 and #3 and call it a day. There, no harm done, no need for splitting either.
For the condi build, give us the pvp version of VoJ, and leave only wvw with the nerfed version. Do something, anything with the Spirit weapons.
And it’s not like guardian is the only class that’s good in wvw. Tempest, Revenant are both great.
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Does Dragonhunter have the 4th highest large target dps with a kittened simple rotation? Yes.
It doesn’t. The benchamark assumes 100% Unscathed Contenter uptime, which is impossible.
Giving up chronomancer is giving up 50% of our utility is it not? No alacrity, no shield for Tides of Time.
Of course it means that. And it should be the case. No dps spec brings support-tier utility. Ranger might bring 1 spirit or Condi Berzerker 1 banner, you couldn’t possibly think a dps mesmer would have alacrity-tier utility.
Now stop arguing that the expansion is going to fix anything and argue based on what the CURRENT balance situation is.
The title is “Chrono dps and expac” and you don’t want us to talk about the expac?
You excatly said:
Condi mesmer is doing 25k dps, that’s a lot closer to top tier dps than what you are describining
Yeah, closer than you are describing (galaxies apart), not close in general. I.E. the gap can be easily bridged.
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If you are low on gold, I wouldn’t get anything ascended yet. An expansion is on the horizon, better to wait for it and its changes.
You can get very cheap exotic gear. I would get a full Berzerker armor set, and then work towards ascended trinkets.
The thing is, unless you are playing raids or high level fractals, both ascended equipment and stats like commander and minstrel won’t be useful to you. Berzerker lets you kill things faster when you are alone in the open world or doing the story.
Now if you absolutely want to craft ascended gear, the orser of importance in which you should acquire them is: trinkets (rings, accesories, backpack) > weapons > armour.
In raids, there are 2 mesmers in every organized group, one is the tank, the other is support. Tanking in this game works differently, and it’s only something you should do if you are familiar with the mechanics of each fight.
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That paired with our very disadvantageous class mechanic (relying on temporary summons to do damage) and our current position in the damage table (deadbeat last, by a mile, no actually by a galaxy) makes me not all to hopeful that within the scope of some rework we might become viable (raid or fractal damage wise).
Condi mesmer is doing 25k dps, that’s a lot closer to top tier dps than what you are describining
So, you are comparing it to literally
http://qtfy.eu/benchmarks/Top tier dps: 33.8-36.2k small hitbox target (let’s not look at large since that would make you look even sillier).
Mesmer dps: 25.8k (against a select few bosses)
25.8/33.8 = 76.33 -> 23.67% less damage
25.8/36.2 = 71.27 -> 28.73% less damageWe do over 1 quarter less damage under IDEAL circumstances and against a very small amount of bosses. In what world is this close? No seriously, and I haven’t even compared to large hitboxes since that would actually make me cry.
Not counting the fact that we give up almost all group utility, have a terrible rampup time and could basically be replaced by a ton of better dps classes.
FYI 10% is a huge difference in a competative enviroment, 25%+ is like bringing a knife to a submachine gun fight. It’s NOT close.
Now look at dragonhunter’s 29.3k. That’s with an absolutely selfish dps-focused spec with zero utility.
Mesmer hasn’t even got its dps spec yet and it will always have the utility of portal.
I never said mesmer is doing competitive dps, I said it’s close enough that a dps spec can push it to top tier dps. The post I quoted said it was galaxy aparts from top, doing half the damage, which is absolutely false, because they were looking at chrono support dps.
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A mesmer complaining about bringing nothing unique to the table. Mesmer is literally the class stacked with the most unique stuff to the point of raids being focused around mesmer’s existence.
Now look at other classes, like Necro and Guard.
Mechanically, I loved it. My only complaint is that at same places the textures would quite a bit muddy, but that might have just been my options.
And yet power engi still does more dps than Dragonhunter, with easier rotation and the utility of Pinpoint Distribution. And that’s engi’s “bad” build.
That paired with our very disadvantageous class mechanic (relying on temporary summons to do damage) and our current position in the damage table (deadbeat last, by a mile, no actually by a galaxy) makes me not all to hopeful that within the scope of some rework we might become viable (raid or fractal damage wise).
Condi mesmer is doing 25k dps, that’s a lot closer to top tier dps than what you are describining
I wonder if it’s bugged for some people. She only died once for me, and I didn’t do anything special. I was on a standard zerk DH, and standed on top of her, AoEing the sparks as they approached. I guess I killed them quickly enough, or maybe they aggroed on me because I was standing right beside her?
- Support class not even used as support (and I believe we’re 2nd last in DPS as well)
Actually guardian is 2nd highest in damage to large hitboxes and 7th in damage to small hitboxes with some of the easiest rotations available on damage builds:
Damage is not the reason guardian does not get taken along in raids. The class doesn’t offer anything unique (similar to necromancer) which makes it enough of value. Similar to thief, which is in a way better spot damage chart wise.
My guess is, there is still enough guardians being played accross all game modes that arenanet does not see the need to make the class the most played again as it was for 3 years of vanilla.
I basically only use my guardian for wvw now myself.
Pay closer attention to what you are looking at.
Tempest, Engi and Thief all do more damage that Guardian at large hitboxes. The latter two are just listed on the small hitbox section because their damage doesn’t scale with size, like Ele and DH.
So, with ideal conditions, DH is 4th damage and 5k DPS under best Tempest build. That’s 15% more damage for Tempest.
And here’s the best part. That benchmark takes Virtues, ie it assumes 100% Unscathed Contenter uptime, which is bogus. In practice, DH is way lower than that. At the same time, Ele’s power benchmark doesn’t include Tempest Defense for breakbar phases, which is a 20% modifier.
The reality is that DH is getting outdpsed by power Engi, and that build is both brain-dead easy and a secondary build to condi, while DH only gets this one build.
DH balance is a kittenshow, plain and simple.
You are not the only one. The story writer has gone full “Lost” in LS3. Lots of threads, unresolved, randomly hopping from one to another without actual closure. The threads of Jormag and Primordus and Braham were just droped down. Balthazar, who became the main plot point only in Ep5 gets absolutely no development in Ep6. Every story instance since Ep4 cliffhanger generates more questions it answers.
I am afraid all this will end just like Lost: with some anticlimactic nonsence and most of questions unanswered.
Well, at least the maps are good.
Jormag and Primordus are sleeping and Braham couldn’t kill Jormag. It’s not a dropped plot, you just weren’t paying attention.
Balthazar is the focus of the next expansion and will get more development there.
The only question left unanswered is Rytlock.
1 Waypoint? Really? Are you so creatively redundant that you could not think of anything more interesting than simply making every aspect of the map a chore to get to? Our reward for soldiering through this mess of a map? More Amulet and Back slot items. Just what we needed.
You can unlock the temples as waypoints.
Best episode of the season for me. We finally get to comfort Lazarus, Livia is back, we get to travel in core Tyria before going to Orr, Shining Blade HQ was a nice touch.
Periodic was the nature of the first season of living world. The current seasons and content is left in gme which rimply that they are meant to be revisited and the current se doesnt make a great job of that.
Periodic doesn’t mean temporary.
Nah im not trying to make any excuses every armor part of the lumincent armor took more time to unlock than A full se3 ep meta achievement tab. Also yes, Id like armor rewards because this game is about the fashion wars and whata fashionwars when everyoe looks the same because no new armors are added.
Truth be told the druid stone did give alot more replayability. 16 days to be exact but the desogn of those collections was terrible so idk if it helps your case.
Luminescent armor was not tied to the story episodes, it was all about grinding Silverwastes.
Saying that everyone looks the same is pure kitten, and if it wasn’t,1 armor set wouldn’t change that.
The druid collection wasn’t any worse than the luminescent collection.
How is the main pve content not supposed to be replayable? If thats the case the the company has big problem.
Not sure instances are supposed to be the main content of the game. I was under the impression it was supposed to be the open world.
Edit: Evidence…the personal story isn’t repeatable…dynamic events, meta events and world bosses are.
Living sotry is open world. IFmf by open world you mean metas bosses and such then that floped them moment they stoped adding world bosses and metas. Since the main pve team ia the lw one then thay makes living world the main pve content.
Living story is not open world and is not the main pve content. There’s a fractal team, a raid team and an expansion team, how is the living world the main pve team?
And they didn’t stop adding metas, they added 4 with HoT. If you mean the ls3 maps, it’s obvious why that is, and it shouldn’t need explaining.
Has the biggest size of team put out the most concistent content updates they make the biggest fuss when and episode is out and their most rescoures prob go to them. Idk about you but that seems like the kind of focus a main pve aspect would get.
Because it’s the nature of living world to be periodic. The main focus is not decided by who releases content. You can play old content, too, you know, and it’s the existing content like HoT metas, fractals and raids that sustain the game. And there’s plenty of hype when fractals and raids are released.
Living world is about releasing lore and filling the gap between expansions.
As for why the maps of lw3 dont have a meta indont get why shouldnt they, ppl are asking for it.
Ppl are not a blob with a single opinion.
As for why they are not releasing more metas, it’s simple. Ls3 maps are not meant to compete with expansion maps. Metas split the playerbase, and with another expansion in the horizon, they don’t want to have too many overlapping metas.
Its unlocking it which takes time. Simply compaire it to se 2 collection for carapace luminecent. And you are right wvw armor and the pvp one arent hot.
Unlocking the skins, weapons, backpacks, minipets of the ls3 episodes takes time, too. The last episode had a big collection to get the druid backpack.
The truth is that you would just like armour rewards, instead of what you are getting, not that it would be create more playtime, or whatever excuse you are trying to make.
How is the main pve content not supposed to be replayable? If thats the case the the company has big problem.
Not sure instances are supposed to be the main content of the game. I was under the impression it was supposed to be the open world.
Edit: Evidence…the personal story isn’t repeatable…dynamic events, meta events and world bosses are.
Living sotry is open world. IFmf by open world you mean metas bosses and such then that floped them moment they stoped adding world bosses and metas. Since the main pve team ia the lw one then thay makes living world the main pve content.
Living story is not open world and is not the main pve content. There’s a fractal team, a raid team and an expansion team, how is the living world the main pve team?
And they didn’t stop adding metas, they added 4 with HoT. If you mean the ls3 maps, it’s obvious why that is, and it shouldn’t need explaining.
What i know is that hot had 3 sets on launch 1 set of legendary armor and some reskins of wvw pvp. And the se2 armor. For what reason they couldnt do armor on se3 doesnt matter what matters is that it gives huge uncentive to replay content. Also se3 iirc is 2 shoulders 1 glove and 2 heads so far.
HoT had 3 full armour sets. The wvw was released later, and it doesn’t require the expansion, and it wasn’t a reskin.
I don’t see how an armor set is an incentive to replay content. As soon as you unlock it, you have no more reason to play.
Sceptre has the same range as lb, and it’s symbol is on a shorter cd. It also benefits from the right-handed strength trait, which lb does not. The only advantage lb has over sceptre is aoe.
Scepter was nerfed down to 900 range a year ago (with the Scepter/Sword symbol patch).
If they want players sticking around then they should. Gambling all on of the expac every time to bring players isnt a healthy thing.
The inbetween content should be apealing and relevant for a while. Nothing about 10-15 diff trinkets is apealing as much as an armor set.
Again the arguement about time is baseless because the armor set will not be dropped whole in 1go.
Rather it will be 1 part of the armor at a time and in the span of a season (6-8 episodes around 10-12 months) you will have enough time for a set and 2 cool backpieces like mordrey(from se2) and the druid stone from ep5 se3. And each episode can also bring a trinket as well.
The argument of time is relevant because the people who would make this armour are working on the expansion, developing armour skins for it. So, it’s not like they can take a few months off to work on Living world stuff.
I would have liked the XP one on Doric Lake.
The XP helps players gain spirit shards or to train their masteries. It’s far from useless or wasted.
Unless you don’t raid.
Buy a boss kill or join an escort training.
If you mean the launch-era trailers, they have nothing to do with “Living World”. The personal story is indeed affected by your choices, the ones you make at character creation and your choice of order.
yet in the end nothing affects the story, ether way the story barely to not changes whatever you choose.
i finally hat the time to get trough the 1:30 last mission (kill zaithan) and there was nothing to be found of my choices.It affects the progression of the history, not the ending.
Expecting a personalised ending in an MMO where everyone shares the same story is quite delusional.
the personal story is instanced, there is nothing shared about that.
try again please but this time research a bit more.
You miss the point. Sharing the story doesn’t mean you play it in the same instance as someone else.
It means that all players get to kill Zhaitain in the end. The next season starts with the prerequisite that you did in a specific manner (you united all races and Orders into a single entity, the Pact, and you marched to Orr).
It can’t work if the story would start branching out. If your choices affected the final outcome of the story, there wouldn’t be a common thread for the next stories to follow.
Like, what if you chose to kill Trehearne or not? What if you could save Eir? How does S3 then? Are they alive or dead?
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This is the worst thing for Norn that they cannot defeat their Enemy…
I wonder how the commander is going to say to Norn that they cannot kill this Dragon, the one who destroyed their lands, homes. “Hi Norn, you can’t kill Jormag because Taimi thinks that it can destroy Tyria. Bye”Do you think taking away his bow will solve all the problems?? So if we would know that killing Mordy was bad would we say to Sylvari that killing Mordy is bad for environment ?
He was an enemy who wanted destroy Sylvari’s minds and Pale Tree.
Jormag is the enemy for norn. He destroyed everything what’s Norn. So they deserve to kill it and to end this awful thread of norn.Stupid leaks say that we are going to the other places… But I would love to see Norn as the major Race and Jormag as the thread.
Leaks really destroy the fun… But I checked them and I have to regret seeing them.Can’t wait to see the trailer.
It’s no different than asura having to accept the same for Primordus. If anything, they lost a lot more than the Norn.