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and maybe just think about all the nerfs made on ranger in the past and simply change them back to there old state.

natural vigor back to 50% maybe, just because there is other professions with much better survive/heal and much better damage and much better vigor uptime then ranger ever can heave…

change back all spirit nerfs, because you just made them from useless to useful and back to completly uselss (where is the sense behind this kind of thinking?)
why the hell it’s a problem to heave a spirit (you heave to waste an utility slot) with 3 seconds burning every 10 seconds.
but an engi easy heave access to 7!!! seconds of burning with balthasar runes and only need to crit every 10 seconds AND don’t need to summone a spirit which can die for this. ye and well, don’t forget the good block, vigor and perma swiftness, stealth, blast finishers, low heal cooldown, pull blah blah blah on this build.

i also don’t know why the spirit of nature got this hard nerfs (1 second not able to cast after you summon it (all spirits at least…), and decrease of the healing power when it anyways is not so hard to interrupt and die really fast in teamfights allready)

why the hell i need to trait 30 points into beastmaster to get the trait zehpyrs speed when you allready nerfed quicknes hard in the past, there is no sense to trait 30 points and waste them for this trait at the moment…

really just/first simply aned should start to watch this profession and think about there senseless horrible nerfs they did in the past…
some of them completly destroyed good builds on this profession was fun to play and now it’s just time to unnerf all this misstakes was done in the past…
because they buffed/changed so much in the past made other professions so much superior.
(and of course buff useless traits on ranger aswell, classic problem on all profsessions)

they did the same on elementalist, why not on ranger.
only bring him back to his old state would be a good help and not much work for the devs right now…

but ye, ofc don’t forget the old problems on the weapons pointed out in this topic allready, becaue they are completly ture and also need a hard buff because they never worked well since release in this point…

Brew Pinch.5731:

I’ve always found Ranger extremely powerful.

Unfortunately the class, in my opinion, is so incredibly easy that it is boring to play.
Fun to dive in for one or two games every now and then, watching as the character completely dominates the battlefield, but laughing at my cat pawing my keyboard is fleeting entertainment at best.

sadly warrior, necro and guardian are also incredibly easy to play.
same for celestial ele builds and engi, just more skills that’s all.
only difference between ranger and them, they dominate tpvp actually, ranger not.

for thief and mesmer (maybe) you heave to spend a bit more time to find out how to rotate, but not so much more.

this game is designed to learn every profession easy.
but it’s still possible to master every profession and find out the little tricks to make you a superior player of this profession when you spend more time on it.

every player just play a bit ranger is still not good enough even if it’s a easy to learn profession.

easy to play is no argument in this game.
there is no single profession need a super high skill level.
at least if you want to speak about a profession need much skill then i would say as ranger you need actually a good skill level, simply because every other profession overshine it so hard at the moment.

of course it depends on what build you focus to play on ranger, but it doesn’t matter what build you choose, there is always an other profession can do it much better to be more useful for a serious team.

there is not much you can say why you would prefer to play with a ranger in a team, simply because there is nothing special a ranger can bring to a conquest team.

why a team should pick up a power ranger instead of a thief or mesmer?
to play a thief/power ranger combo or mesmer/power ranger combo?
never will work smoth like the thief/mesmer combo which still feels really lame in some situations.

why a team should pick up a beastmaster ranger (or any kind of 1vs1 ranger build) when it’s not even possible to 1vs1 on a point as long as d/d cele ele or staff ele can do?
a good ele even start’s to make a beastmaster ranger leave the point sometimes after a longer fight.
and then there is still the warrior with his longbow (main weapon for warriors in gw2 not for rangers)

why a team should pick up a spirit ranger still?
it’s still a decent build of course.
but i would prefer to take an elementalist, engi or necromancer before and there is just 5 player slots for a team.

and then there is this kind of survival bleeding ranger build.
nice for the 1vs1 server to fight offpoint and kite without heave to focus on other players or points.
but it’s not good to master 1vs1 conquest situations or deal good damage in team fights or bring any other kind of support.

you can tryhard as much you want to create a superior ranger build,
there is simply nothing actually. (for tpvp! not hot join or soloq (oh or wvw))

every build is just something like 70% of what an other prfossion can do.

at least, what is the meta professions of what most superior teams run actually?
isn’t it something like

guardian
elementalist
mesmer
thief
warrior

guaridan
elementalist
elementalist
warrior
thief

guardian
elementalist
elementalist
engi
thief

etc.

just make sure to heave a guardian one or two elementalist a warrior and a thief and then when you don’t run two eles pick something as last player.
in this order of prefer.

1. ele, mesmer to play well together with the thief or engi
2. necro or ranger

we saw even celestial staff ele replaced guardian for some good teams allready to be viable to pick up an other profession to bring more damage into the party, because a celestial ele can easy hold a 1vs1 situation and survive a 2vs1 situation for long aswell.

isn’t this something like the actualy meta situation?

Prysin.8542:

I was kinda missing these non-objective and totally uninformed topics that OP tends to make.

So what is your argument this time Ragnar?

“Engi feel stronger”….

Well, i “feel stronger” when i get drunk, but i aint getting any stronger by drinking. So your feelings have little to do with balance i am afraid.

and i was missing my wvw boy speaking about tpvp when not even playing in this game area <3

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Ragnar.3916:

ranger, especially power ranger is not even a meta profession.
and ranger at all is the most weak profession again at the moment.

but anet nerf the ranger again.
and buff ele and engi.
verry interesting.

of course it happend again because the forum is full of ranger hating persons.
but when warriors running completly broken around for almost 1 year it’s not a huge problem.
it’s seems to be also ok to let celestial d/d eles running completly broken overpowered around for the next year i guess.
not to forget s/d thief and the steal on thief generally, everyting completly fine.
but when a beastmaster ranger build was viable for some month in the verry past, of course it was important to instantly nerf it to become completly useless.
same for spirit ranger. (got even much nerfs when warrior was completly broken op and warrior was not touched by nerfs in this time)

as main ranger player you will never get something good for this profession.
just to less peoples play this profession as main.
much peoples don’t want to face a ranger or even still don’t know the traits of this profession and play in good tpvp teams…

says much about the knowledge about this profession in this game.
nobody cares.

Power ranger is the weakest profession atm? Apparently there’s a universal game mode which includes open world PvE, sPvP, tPvP, WvW(roaming), WvW (zerging), dungeon and fracts.

Awesome!

PS: Not that the rest of the post made any kind of sense but oh-well.

i’m speaking about tpvp that’s why this post make no sense for you.
seems like you don’t even know what professions dominating in tpvp at the moment.

the point blank shot is a nerf because this animation is easy to dodge now.
for pve boys it doesn’t matter of course, for pvp players it’s a nerf.

oh and peoples calling power ranger op, should really start to think about how to play this game when they heave troubles to 1vs1 this spec.

loosing vs a power ranger because he comes from behind (2vs1 situation) with a rapid fire simply don’t count.
every profession outnumbers a fight should get a nerf then.

when peoples struggle in 1vs1 situations vs power rangers then it’s a hard player skill issue.

a thief and mesmer will also come from behind and burst you when they go to outnumber fights.
most time harder then a power ranger ever can do and if they want out of stealth of course.

ranger, especially power ranger is not even a meta profession.
and ranger at all is the most weak profession again at the moment.

but anet nerf the ranger again.
and buff ele and engi.
verry interesting.

of course it happend again because the forum is full of ranger hating persons.
but when warriors running completly broken around for almost 1 year it’s not a huge problem.
it’s seems to be also ok to let celestial d/d eles running completly broken overpowered around for the next year i guess.
not to forget s/d thief and the steal on thief generally, everyting completly fine.
but when a beastmaster ranger build was viable for some month in the verry past, of course it was important to instantly nerf it to become completly useless.
same for spirit ranger. (got even much nerfs when warrior was completly broken op and warrior was not touched by nerfs in this time)

as main ranger player you will never get something good for this profession.
just to less peoples play this profession as main.
much peoples don’t want to face a ranger or even still don’t know the traits of this profession and play in good tpvp teams…

says much about the knowledge about this profession in this game.
nobody cares.

or do you know any reason why nearly all old top rangers left the game and don’t play in a team anymore?!

it’s just impossible to find a build workign well enought compared to the other professions.

every other profession overshine the ranger profession so hard atm.

it’s just an joke to play this profession right now, there is no reason to pick up a ranger in a team after the last patches anymore.

sadly this forum is full of ele/mes/engi fanboys and full of ranger haters.
that’s the only reason i can understand why anet still fail so kitten buffing ranger to bring it into the line of beeing useful enough to pick it up instead of ele, thief or warrior.
not just useful enough to be maybe the 5. player in a team since 2 years… -.-

i just go to engi and instantly feel stronger on this profession than on my ranger… and i’m not even strong on engi yet.
same for playing as warrior, d/d elementalist or s/d thief.
everything is just so much more usefull in a team than a ranger.

the hole ranger profession have some nice mechanics makes it really fun to play.
even fun enough to be my main professions since i play gw2.

but the balance around rangers is just horrible since first day…
there is nobody on anet who spend his time for this profession.

and it looks like it’s also the profession gets the most random and ninja nerfs on builds which was not even broken as some builds on other professions.

would be interesten when anet could start to rebalance the ranger profession again
(same as they did on elementalist)

buff the vigor regeneration back to 50%
buff the burning duration back on sun spirit (engi just get burn for free on a 20 trait with much better burning duration)

maybe give back the quicknes on the beastmaster trait (quicknes was anyways nerfed in the past aswell)

rebuff the rez spirit, it just dies really fast and everybody can easy interrupt it anyways if you don’t give stability to it.

remove this kittened cast time on point blank shot, longbow is not even near to get a meta weapon for tpvp.

let rangers on offhand axe 5 also move, simply because you just let engi also move with his shield 4 but also give him a blast finisher on it…

look on the shouts of rangers, what an joke of skills

look on the traps of ranger, what an joke of skills compared to engis condi burst

etc etc..

to clarify, this nerf of point blank shot souns like a little not important game change for much peoples in this forum.
speaking about ranger have enough survive mechanics and just can swap weapons to sword/dagger to get tones of evades…

but actually in the more high skilled part of pvp fights
(not tpvp since power ranger is not even meta)
you can feel little nerfs like this really fast,
just because you need to use everything well,
simply because your enemy players also use everything well…

when i “cry” about “little nerfes” like the point blank shot
(which can hard change a fight to lose where you was able to win before,
just because you was still able to (fast) interrupt an important attack of an enemy would heave killed you if you don’t do this…
and sadly… weapon swap and some dodges on the second weaponhand was allready on cooldown, because your enemy is also not a complete noob letting you free cast on max range and holdes youn under pressure.

then stupid nerfs like this are just big nerfs and a big game change for peoples used power ranger builds vs. skilled players.
and power ranger was not even close to be able in high skilled tpvp fights…
(longbow is still a crap of weapon, same for offhand axe and greatsword)

so for me this nerf makes just a big difference.
it’s completly annoying to read answers telling me the basics of ranger
like use weapon swap and use sword/dagger.
of course i use this…
i speak about this nerf on one weapon makes a big difference for power rangers vs good enemy players.
and a powe ranger player still heave to play better then his enemy player when he wants to win (don’t speaking about hotjoin or soloq level)

animations changes are verry interesting game changes when you play well in this game and
adding even a cast time to a skill where you was able to use it as a good interrupt on a squishy build is just a hard nerf if you fight vs peoples with a brain.

i would say it’s impossible now to do good things like.
knock out a thief from shadow refuge (no as easy but was possible)
knock out a thief before he stealthed up in his blind field.
knock back a hambow warrior in close combat when he use some hamer knocks.
interrupt an mesmer using mass invis.
etc

you simply can’t interrupt enemys well with this stupid cast time now.
you need to see the animations, react and then there is also the cast time aswell now… nice joke.
just a kittened random nerf for a not even well enough working build.
stupid anet, srsly

think powe ranger will never work in this game.
two years of completly useless => starting to finaly buff it => and wtf nerf it even one month after the buff allready again… there must be a huge ranger hater working for anet.
i mean why warrior was able to faceroll for almost one year and ele can completly faceroll for a long time aswell now?
don’t want to speak about s/d thief..

but yes nerf power ranger, joke <3

point blank shot is hard nerfed like i thought and a non meta build losing one of a good extra survive skill you was able to time well to interrupt enemy professions like f1 from hambow warriors, thiefs jumping on you etc.

but adding even a cast time to this skill is a nice joke for a squishy build like this, if you see something to interrupt when enemys get close range to you, it’s most time to late with a kittened cast time like this.
that’s anet brain quality like always, easy to dodge as pinndown but not even close effective as pinndown.

and why the hell engi can run with the shield 4 and the ranger can’t still run with the axe 5?
i thought the engi shield 4 was allready really strong and useful.
but ok keep random buffing and random nerfing stuff without even think a minute about what you do.

longbow was a really slow feeling weapon in the past for a fast dying build.

you started to make it feel more fast and smooth to play.

and kittening now you start to make this weapon mainly made for zerker builds (where you have to react fast if you want to survive) feel slower again?
especially an important skill like this you have to nerf kittened like this Oo

and i thought “too many warriors are using longbows"

but anet loves the ranger profession much as always

SYPHA.9283:

Bring your ele against my condi ranger. youre gonna be toast. stop playing hotjoin and thinking youre good. that is all.

celestial d/d ele vs your condi ranger… aha
i bet he will stomp you, even when not so good on ele

vincecontix.1264:

Ragnar.3916:

Silv.9207:

Yeah, the ranger can only play for 12 sec withour recive direct damage.
Then can swap in sword/dagger and dodge all your skills.
You can remove all your and allies conditions with a signet (your pet isn’t happy about this)
With the LB, you can go in hide. (and with the trait, reset your 100% critical rante +5 vulnerability bonus at the first skill)
You can set up traits that gives you endurance regeneration, protect, regen, vigor, stability, stealth, damage reduction by 50% (under 25%hp), remove conditions (by timing, dodging, or skill use)

Yeah, Rangers sucks in defence…

that’s a nice classic forum boy answer.
but in practice mesmer and thief still damage and survive way better then a power ranger.
but the longbow knock need an animation. sounds logic

power ranger is still a freekill profession in the eu meta.
mesmer and thief not

That because thief and mesmer can’t burst people down from 1500 range. There is also set up for mes burst and positional req for thief bs. Both thief and mesmer are no where as brain dead as ranger when it comes to getting there burst off.

yes the 3 buttons spam profession called thief is not brain dead
it’ so hard to go into teamfights with s/d thief and start the dodge spam by chasing one enemy and easy go out when it get dangerous. it’s also really hard as thief to use steal, it need so much brain and skill i don’t even want to try playing thief because as power ranger it’s so much more easy mode actually.

about mesmer i guess i missed something?
actually every mesmer is playing greatsword,
what was exatly the range of greatsword mesmer at the moment, hmm?
and i thought the mesmer gameplay is also to kite enemys while damage from high distance aswell.

but yes ofc power ranger is annoying brain dead easy mode when you have to survive a celestial d/d ele or any kind of thief chasing you.
it’s also easy mode if you do one misstake vs condi necros and condi engis.

it’s also really easy when your stealth on longbow just get random dodged, while mesmer and thief don’t need to hit a target to stealth up and just have twice as much skills to dissengange or survive.

there is a good reason for power rangers are not meta in high tier games.
on low tier games every good player can kill everything with every profession anyways.

reading all ths ranger whining after the patch was just an interesting show of how low players complain in this forum and anet have to listen to this crap.

about the decap,
no its not even unfair when you want to decap a point.
every profession have some good skills to decap points and they are also not easy predictable.

at least i’m not only complaining because anet decide to nerf point blank shot…
power ranger is anyways not viable.
i complain because it’s annoying when they think they have to keep an eye on power ranger specs and decide to shave them instantly after the first buff and thats completly all they do for the ranger profession? (with the actual informations from the ready up)

they forgot the uselss off hand axe,
the 70% useless pets,
the much useless traits,
the useless shouts
and the useless trapper ranger builds again?

Silv.9207:

Yeah, the ranger can only play for 12 sec withour recive direct damage.
Then can swap in sword/dagger and dodge all your skills.
You can remove all your and allies conditions with a signet (your pet isn’t happy about this)
With the LB, you can go in hide. (and with the trait, reset your 100% critical rante +5 vulnerability bonus at the first skill)
You can set up traits that gives you endurance regeneration, protect, regen, vigor, stability, stealth, damage reduction by 50% (under 25%hp), remove conditions (by timing, dodging, or skill use)

Yeah, Rangers sucks in defence…

that’s a nice classic forum boy answer.
but in practice mesmer and thief still damage and survive way better then a power ranger.
but the longbow knock need an animation. sounds logic

power ranger is still a freekill profession in the eu meta.
mesmer and thief not

could you finaly improve the survive mechanic of power ranger builds
instead of nerfing it by make the skill point blank shot easy predictable,
so every player can easy dodge it?

after this “change” only hunters shot is left as survive based skill on longbow, so you can’t use point blank shot anymore to keep enemeys away from you, because everybody will just dodge it.
actually a power ranger is allready just death if enemys can get close to him and that’s not so hard to do.
if this animation is completly easy to dodge then power ranger will get really fast into hard troubles.

i have no idea how you can keep an eye on nerfing power ranger allready again when it’s not even a meta build,
but the kings of zerker builds (mesmer, thief with much better dmg/survive mechanics) are completly fine?!

a stealth shatter from mesmer or steal from thievs is aswell not predictable, can you give this things also some easy to predict blue animations please?

i forgot here is the mesmer fanpage

shatter mesmer need a nerf into the ground, its zero fun to play vs this spec since release…

the shatter dmg, clones, ports and stealth is just ridiculous op.
also every game with mesmers in general is not much fun with this npcs everywhere running around (but thats another problem of this game)

in this forum peoples complain about rapid fire on ranger at the moment
first nerf the mesmer dmg, its insane op and this profession have more as enough survive mechanics compared to the rest of zerker builds to nerf the damage of mesmer allready!

there is not much you can predict when you get shattered out from stealth and after that this the mesmer just port away again and you dropt bellow 50% hp

really nice to fight this kitten profession if you are not a thief.

“Ranger – Too many rangers using Longbow – We are adding a tell of the animation for the Point Blank skill and the projectile has a purple color to distinguish it from autoattacks. "

of course too many rangers using longbow… wtf
there is so much longbow power rangers running around in teamque.
but sadly, i don’t see a single one in the eu top 100 leaderboard play this useless crap of glass cannon power ranger with this called op rapid fire in tpvp.
but no problem keep nerfing ranger builds even when they are not good while listen to the noobs in this forum.

the ranger profession must be so broken op.
was never a must heave in tpvp meta groups, but peoples cry most on this profession when it gets any useful buffs.

“-> after this Rangers will be completely fine, imho.”

no still not a really strong/useful profession full with useless traits/pets and wepons like greatsword and offhand axe.

“Engineer – Magnetic Shield (#4 skill on the shield, immobilize you and reflect). The immobilize on it was kinda weird so this ability can now be used while moving so it will act similar as the #5 skill. "

and ranger offhand axe 5 still stuck, gj anet.
engi shield is allready really strong and usefull, but rangers useless offhand axe 5 can’t move while only reflect projectiles.

(engi shield 4 can move, reflect, knock back and blast finish now.
ranger axe 5 can’t move, can reflect and well… give you retaliation and make enemys vulnerability… amazing for ranger it’s not kinda weird to stuck while use skills like this and barrage on longbow)

after you made rangers point blank shot easy predictable to make it easy to dodge (for every forum noob), this class cannon zerker build lose a lot of survive ability which is anyways really low on power ranger builds.

ranger is after this nice spirit ranger nerfs still one of the worst professions in this game.
nearly everything freekill it in 1vs1 situations conquest mode.

d/d celestial ele just go zombiemode on every ranger build and kitten it hard.

but yep this forum is a big elementalist fanclub.

elementalist is even more op then in the old double ele meta atm, gj anet balance team.

just can’t hold it back..

everyone of you boys who can’t handle a power ranger should just delete the game,
because nobody can help you then.

the player skill of peoples can’t handle a power ranger must be nearly zero.

it’s just so cute how good much forum boys can complain and theory craft,
but in the same time they are the worst players universe.

full of no name hot join noobs complain about stuff is op and not op.
if it’s ranger for you, it’s really time to look for a offline game.

mexay.3902:

1) Add a 1s Pre-cast
2) Add a telegraph similar to Pin Down
3) Reduce range by 300 – 600 units
4) Increase recharge by 2 seconds
5) Remove vulnerability

There. Rapid Fire fixed.

It’s now easily dodgeable, requires some cost to the ranger, has the same recharge as a single dodge and doesn’t also stack vulnerability. It retains the same damage output and cast time and can still be used to snipe targets. Overall functionality is exactly the same.

And before the Rapid Fire Defence Force comes in with the arguments only Hotjoin Heroes would use:

Reflects are not a proper defence, as their recharge times are typically 30 – 40s and few classes have access to them
Dodging skills like Rapid Fire requires an actual telegraph
Volley does not do the same or more damage
Kill shot does not do the same or more damage
1500 Range does not allow for gap closing
Stability is not a valid counter to PBS given the recharge time
A skill with this much damage requires some kind of cost to use

So, any objections? As far as I’m concerned these changes would fix the weapon and make it reasonably balanced.

noob

how to get him…

celestial d/d ele: blink burning speed, rtl to him
celestial staff ele: just dont care you have more sustain then he can damage
fresh air ele: well enough reflection and hard instant burst to always win.
thief: port as often you want to him
meditation guardian: blink to him, immobilize him with scepter
warrior: time and fake your pindown and immobilize on hammer (yes warrios should time and fake skills and not only spam them random)
mesmer: have enough clones stealth and ports to get close to the ranger and do a good damage on him.
necro: have to get a good fear, condi combo (chilll, cripple!) on him and a power ranger die really fast. if the ranger can dodge well and kite well he sould win vs necro yes.

just some easy ways to get a power ranger into a melee situation and he will already lose much hp if you do this vs him.

ofc he can try to stealth and knock you, but you can also use stability against knocks,
block and random dodges to stop him from get stealth.

and if you dodge through the rangers body if he is on longbow he get his skills on cooldown and just don’t do the longbow skill 3 of 4 (bug or gamedesign, don’t know)

there is many ways to catch a longbow ranger and get him into troubles really fast.
especially in the conquest pvp maps.

at least no reason to whine.
this build have still the same low sustain and just got damage, so it’s not a complete useless trash build you can ignore like the last 2 years.

it’s exatly what ranger should be, dangerous on range.
mesmer and necro is also dangerous on range if you let them freecast.
so just don’t let a power ranger freecast on range aswell..

or why nearly everbody whine hard about longbow power ranger builds?

i know much good players stoped playing this game,
but really, is there nobody left who is able to EASY handle power rangers?

it’s interesting how everybody starts whinig hard for anets help to nerf power ranger builds fast again if they get a bit dangerous and more then a complete freekill.

this profession/build is not even in the state to get good for tpvp teams, but peoples already cry like babys.

i don’t see power rangers in a big advantage if they have to face this profession builds.

celestial d/d ele
celestial staff ele
condi engi
condi warrior
hambow warrior
condi necro
s/d thief
meditation guardian
shatter mesmer
(spirit ranger
beastmaster ranger)

vs some of them i think a power ranger have even big problems to deal enough damage before he get outsustained really fast (celestial, burning etc.)
and if you lose vs a longbow power ranger when you use one of this profession builds, the power ranger deserved the win vs you (if it was a 1vs1 situation)
in a teamfight situation ofc you have to target a power ranger, but that is the same like you have to target a necro really fast.
and if you do this a power ranger will also die fast.

at least power ranger is a high risk build, you can die really fast if you don’t watch the enemy animations well.
so stop whine on ranger before you started whine on builds like celestial d/d or staff elementalist, sodier warrior, turret engi and all this nice tanky cheese also deal much damage.

this game is so full of noobs…
not even able to handle a power ranger

both of this noob professions deserve a nerf to death.
this kitten carryed bad players for to long now,
especially hambow warrior.

the buffs sounds really nice for power ranger finaly.

but it’s all about the damage after this patch.
a s/d thief or a celestial ele will be still a pain on a zerker power ranger build i think

Prysin.8542:

Lachanche.6859:

Ragnar.3916:

never lost against any power ranger

prepare yourself to be challenged by every single power ranger on the forum

I wouldn’t place any bets on anyone dueling him though, even the worst power ranger will beat him.

yes all except of you, because i heared something like you are a wvw boy and have no clue about pvp :P

i just watched some of euras replays.
for me it looks like he is fighting npcs in the most situations, never saw peoples react so bad/slow (at least in the 2 replays i watched)

if that is really the skill level of the top 25 players in na soloq ladder
then power ranger is viable in na.

so i will never again complain power ranger is not viable (in na)

in eu it’s still food and a complete free kill.
never lost against any power ranger, it’s just impossible to lose vs a power ranger.
if someone lose vs a power ranger actually it’s a hard l2p issue or just a outnumbered situation.

Prysin.8542:

i love how one of the highest RANKED ranger players say “the build works” and everyone just ignores him and instantly declare the build rubbish even though they arent even close to his rank or experience.

Yeah, rank apparently doesnt matter. If noobs cannot play it, it is rubbish. Not hard to play, just “unviable” and rubbish.

ah…. gotta say them words that made me famous now…

People, it’s a L2P Issue, deal with it. If you fail with LB/GS, it is a user error, not a build error. You simply got out-played.

actually he is just rank ~70 and this in na!
(eu players go to na and they are top 25 in 2 days)

even in eu servers, it’s really easy to go rank 50+ really fast with a bit decent team mates.

in the actual state of the game top 50 means nothing.

at least in eu
the best ranger players (azron, yilvina darnus and niah) don’t run (or was running)
a power ranger build
and every one of them stay/ed top 15 in the eu ladder for a long time and played in good teams called cheese mode, 55hp monks and erotic solitude legends.

all of them played spirit ranger and like every one knows eu > na
i have np with eura but keep you hype a bit low na guys.
power rangers are just food in eu meta gameplay, no matter how good they can play.

tichorum.2415:

It’s viable if your team makes it viable. Our Ranger, Eurantien, played Power Ranger with LB/GS in the ToL 2 Qualifier 1. We won our four games and advanced to the August Finals. If your team makes use of it correctly and makes it viable, it is.

na high quality gameplay…
well lets see the real rounds, you just played the qualifier now.

haha, of course not.
ranger in general sux hard at the moment

really good work here

the ranger cummunity is just to small maybe.
there was a “state of the ranger” topic in the spvp forum and no anet dev cares,
they even prefered to ban this guy instead of starting to fix the ranger problems
(power ranger, trapper ranger… ah just every ranger build atm is trash)

the 3. male hair would be perfect for female sylvari.
but don’t have to understand everything anet is doing.

ofc there is no ranger.
and it’s also better to don’t vote for a ranger when you want your location to see win.

Prysin.8542:

Lopez.7369:

You have 61 games played, and you’re 68 percentile in solo queue.

i got 1500 hours in WvW, got burnt out and now playing PvP – Statistics isn’t everything

like i told.
so you are just another pve boy coming to pvp and think you are good, but have no clue about pvp.
(troll in wrong forum)

actually if you try to tell them something.
they prefer to ignore and ban peoples, instead of listening.

this game is a pve game without balance and will stay a pve game.
the pvp devs are anyways not good in that what they have to do.

how should i do something for the ranger community?
even if i would try to do something, it would lead to the same result like this topic.

at least i don’t call power ranger viable or good,
that’s actually something negative you can do for the ranger community,
because that’s a lie.
there is nothing more food then a power ranger in this game.

the rest of ranger builds is also useless at the moment.

bumping this topic, since you prefer to stop good players from posting when they try to tell you when a profession is much to weak actually.
looks like rangers don’t get any answer all the time and have to handle peoples like Inscrutable or prysin in topics (better stop forum trolls like them from posting, instead of good players stayed in your game since beta)
i can’t belive peoples are bad like them, but in this forum is much interesting stuff going around.

same time i ask, why a team should take a ranger in some special role and compared to other professions why a ranger should be better or be even in this role.

at least of course ranger players, especially the rangers played in the top of 25-50 ladder get completely mad when there main profession get worthless in ladder rank fights between ~1-200 since players there are at least really good to decent and not complete trash.

for me it’s no fun to lose vs d/d eles and hambow warriors even when i dodged nearly everything
but 25 might burning and some auto attacks (which are not worth to dodge since you need dodge for the important attacks) kills you.

so bad d/d eles and bad hambow warrior players can win vs good ranger players atm.
of course ranger players heave a good reason to become mad.
and don’t come with bm ranger now, it’s like a phantasm mesmer, nobody need it in teamque.

who of the main ranger players played in good eu teams still stays in guild wars 2?
i don’t see any one of them actually playing any more

Konrad Quest (Konrad Quest)
Kanscout (Kanscout)
Qidmetala (Yilvina Darnus)
Battosai (Battosai)
Kenny (Kenny)
ZeParrot (Niah)
Symbolic (Symbolic)

only azron seems to still play ranger with cm actually?
so a really interesting leavers list of ranger players.
of course every profeesion have a nice leaver list, since peoples prefer to leave this game actually, but the ranger community is really small.

ps: still waiting for results of the ranger cdi topic.
you can’t tell me poison master was the final result of it…

Inscrutable.8347:

• Evades on every melee weapon
• Steady or Spike Pet Damage
• 1500 Range DPS Weapon
• Variety of different tactics from pet choice
• Water field that can be blasted and leaped through easily on your own
• Passive extra stun break and condi removal
• The only active access to revealed debuff in the game

just have to answer the power ranger heros…

can’t see anything on this list give the ranger a adventage to other professions.

• Evades on every melee weapon

Evade is not the only way to sustain in this game, there is knock, blink, blind, stealth, interrupt, chill, cripple, heal, vigor, protection, regenaration, block and swiftness.

every profession have his own way to survive, some even have nearly everything of this points.

the evade on ranger makes him at least anyways not “special”
it’s just his mechanic of sustain.

the d/d ele have 2 weapon dodges, one of them is even a heavy burst and the second one is also a knock and much vigor uptime.
but thats not enough to overshine ranger, it also heave this nice heal and mobility, interrupt, immobilize, knocks and blinds.
thats allready the first point why i can’t take your power ranger brainstom serious.
staff ele at least have also 1 weapon dodge.

the second profession which also have much weapon dodges is of course the thief and overshine rangers 2 times in damage, mobility and dodge.
that’s the second point why i can’t take your power ranger brainstorm serious.

to complete the list about weapon dodges, mesmer have also a weapon dodge on sword

so nothing special to have weapon dodges in this game.
if you time a knock, block or blind well it’s at least also good like a weapon dodge.

• Steady or Spike Pet Damage:

don’t even notice the ranger pet anymore when i play hambow warrior or d/d elementalist.
this depends also on the build, there is not a singe viable/good build with a pet spike.
at least there is of course useful pets, but that’s also nothing what makes the ranger special, it’s again just the mechanic of the profession.
other professions don’t need the pet for the fear, immobilize or “steady damage”

• 1500 Range DPS Weapon:

its calle’d longbow and sux hard, don’t even want to tell you why.
you’re just food for thiefs, d/d eles and warrios as power ranger and with longbow it looks like you want to deal much damage from huge range.

• Variety of different tactics from pet choise:

and how much different tactics exactly?
wolf fear yes/no
immobilize yes/no
chill yes/no
cripple yes/no
might stack yes/no
regenerations yes/no
….

you choose betwen 2 active skills yes/no and 2 pet skills happen after you swap the pet
that’ really much tactic choose.
fear and immobilize is anyways one of the most interesting chooses.

• water field that can be blasted and leaped through easily on your own:

yes and?
is ranger amazing because of this?
but at least you’re right, the healing spring is at least something really nice to teamplay, but it’s not the only water field in this game.
in this elementalist meta the team heave anyways enough heal.
healing spring is far not enough to take a ranger.

about the “you can blast it yourself”
yes nice, i get a bit extra heal and of course i have to do it since i’m not able to sustain with heal like warrior healing signet and elementalist water attunement.
thats also a point why ranger is just not in this meta, you can dodge well but still get outsustained because healing signet and water attument + strengh runes and burning outsustain every ranger actually.

• Passive extra stun break and condi removal:

i don’t know why you take this point.
on most ranger builds you have max one stun break.
the rest is about well reacting and dodge at the right time.
the “passive condi remove” is also nothing special.
if you’re lucky it removes important condis, if you have bad luck it just remove something and after that you eat a burning.

at least the stun break and condi remove on ranger is just not worth to point it out, since it’s nothing special.
warrior and elementalist can anyways deal really good with condi pressure too.
guardian can also deal really good with condis, thief have to evade it.

• the only active access to revealed debuff in the game:

i don’t know what you mean, but it sounds like you speak about sic em?
yes thought about it, sounds also really nice in the description.
but how you use sic em on a allready stealthed enemy?
right, you can’t, you have to lucky use it before and hope the enemy will use stealth in this 4 seconds. really amazing.

devs don’t care about that and that’s pretty normal since they have no clue about the ranger.

so, the state of the ranger is horrible and will stay like this for a pretty long time now.
just reroll to warrior if you still want to have fun, because warrior will stay like this also for a long time now….

hooma.9642:

Ragnar.3916:

ranger is in a really bad spot after this patch
with all this amazing things for ranger…

but if the cdi topic leads to more things like poison master as a grandmaster trait, then i fear, there is no more hope for this profession any more.

sorry i missed the sarcasm and need a hint

no sarcasm, ranger one of the worst prfessions.
even more after this patch.

karl in the live stream:
“there is amazing things for ranger coming”

ranger is in a really bad spot after this patch
with all this amazing things for ranger…

but if the cdi topic leads to more things like poison master as a grandmaster trait, then i fear, there is no more hope for this profession any more.

Fluffball.8307:

Sol.4310:

I’ve not made post in a while, but I just wanted to say it’s nice idea Durzlla but healing is worthless.

There just to much raw damage + condition damage to make healing on that type of scale worth while, your better of aiming for X amount of damage and mitigate incoming damage. But let’s be honest Ranger’s got replaced last patch we don’t have anything useful anymore apart from Spirit Elite.

I totally disagree. It’s not just AoE healing a spirit ranger brings, it’s group protection, group burning, group swiftness, lots of AoE condi removal, aoe CC from a multitude of sources, a cluttered targeting environment, AoE revive, group regen, and all on top of their own reasonable condi tank damage.

Whatever the meta changes in to, regen spirit rangers are still a very solid build.

dreaming is a nice thing.
you are speaking about elementalist when you give this positive examples a ranger bring into a group?

i think sol is right, rangers place in pvp teams is gone.
ele took this place now

what a spirit ranger dont brings into group or what others can do better now!

• aoe damage
• 1vs1 strengh, you die to nearly everything 1vs1
• AoE condi remove only if you drop your swiftness spirit (each 60s only)
• regen is worthles in a power might burst meta and you bring not so much heal to the group as ranger like a ele or guardian.
• rez spirit is not a huge problem for enemys to interrupt anymore, ppls learn.
  it even dies really fast after all this over nerfs to fast aswell
• fire and stone spirit die really fast if you play this kind of “bunker spirit ranger”
  our friend ele is also back and kill them in 3sec or even pistol whip thief just remove them in 3s
• teamfight spirit ranger builds are a easy target for mesmers and pistol whip thiefs, you cant dodge this stealth bursts always lucky

what a d/d ele brings into group

• much mobility
• 1vs1 strengh
• perma burning on node
• much direct damage + burning damage thanks to celestial and strengh runes
• really huge survive and huge aoe damage in the same time, bb rangers

surprise,
ele is ridiculous op after this patch.

probably double ele meta again

yes, sry if i sound rude…

but that’s for me the point.
if there will be a “new hair” patch,
it brings for sure only 3 new hairstyles again, like the last two ones.
so if they will give us a kind of scarlets hairstyle again, there will be not much place for some nice long hairstyles.

i have still a picture from the “new hairs and faces topic” on my desktop
the hairs from the first two pictures would be just amazing….
but well at least i would have zero problems if there will be one scarlet hair and this two hairs from the picture :P

anet can’t help power based ranger builds.
because there’s still many peoples really, i cant belive it…
THINK a power ranger is viable.
for sure its viable… you can create it, you can equip it and you can play it, you also can beat noobs with it…

but its completely useless compared to everything other power based profession…

for the conversation between prysin and hooma,
hooma completely right, maybe one of the less ranger players with brain.
and in spvp are also powerbuilds viable, aswell condi builds

some one know this team set up?!
thief => power
mesmer => power
warrior => power with kittened burning field
guardian => def
spirit ranger => condi

uuhhh so much condi here!
and a top team in eu at the moment

i bet the new patch bring nothing to rangers!
only the 5 new grandmaster crap traits and a spirit nerf AGAIN…
soon spirits will be more weak then before the spirit buff patch,
where everybody was think “oh they are not viable”, love you anet.

what’s with a necro nerf maybe. i can’t kill a necromancer if he’s running the carrion amulet aswell, like most rangers.
i only can kill this op condi spam if he’s on a rabit amulet and i’m on a carrion amulet and then also only if i dodge random/perfect… good balance!
i’m single target and necro is aoe condi op damage spam on point…

lets go to the usefull new traits,

read the wind, yes totaly useless trait again for power ranger builds

strider’s defense, is a good joke, because as kittening power ranger im allready death if i go to melee.
im death before i can go anywhere with this build!

poison master, just wow they picked THIS idea out of the cdi and its a grandmaster trait…-.-
empathic bond is anyway more useful and important.

the nature magic and beastmaster grandmaster trait is MAYBE usefull…

but i have no idea why the hell the read the wind, strider’s defense and POISON MASTER is a kittening grandmaster trait..

if they don’t bring new traits for the adept and master tier i’m done with this profession…
at least the longbow still feels like the most crap weapon in the game…
this weapon is supposed to be a ranger weapon… but my warrior is using it much more effective.

its not easy to play a ranger,
its much more easy to run around with a warrior, s/p thief, guardian or necro at the moment…

can you FINALY please buff this useless build in this game.

oh my god its frustrating how everything kill this useless crap build without any problems.
this kittening build is a freekill in pvp and wvw since ONE YEAR!

and the next useless patch change nothing about this.
the longbow and longsword skills are not even worth to use.

edit: can a DEV please create a power ranger and go to a 1vs1 or do a solo/teamque.
maybe it works to realise how completely impossible it is to make this build work…
even the longbow skills interrupt themself if your enemy player move fast around you…

Weindrasi.3805:

Ragnar.3916:

please not more of scarlet’s hairstyle Oo
she’s ugly as hell…
finaly a long hairstyle next, please!

Do you realize what you did?
You are suggesting, that because you personally do not like Scarlet’s hair, nobody should be allowed to get it.
More variety is always good. If you don’t like an option, don’t use it. There are plenty of others to pick from.

but nearly all of them are already ugly like this one.
and the last patch brought the scarlets hairs, btw.

i also think there are still players waiting for a good looking
long hair style…

so i dont know what i did,
i just posted my mind about this hairstyle.