Guild Wars 2

Tryble.6819:

One thing with the old illusions was that they launched their initial attack fast enough that they can’t be destroyed, even if you’re waiting for them, before they dealt a moderate chunk of damage to the siege they were after. Given enough time they would wreck up whatever siege even if there was someone present trying to protect it.

Because of our bugged trait line (which has been going on for months now) if you had AoE’s going around your seige weapons, our Illusions died instantly.

Bones.5762:

also noted, illusions attack only every 15seconds or so i believe unless you have phantasmal haste trait, which lowers it down 20%.

Yep, it is clearly a knee jerk nerf with no data to support the change.

The only people crying about this skill were people who want to do nothing but stand there and defend in safety. The same people who stand in red circles…..

Cover Girl.2580:

Im kind of glad since this was a ridiculous power to use.. a Mes could target you from distance, run to the wall of a tower and toss illusions up on you then run back. The illusions THEN could sit there and destroy every siege on the wall and players unless you stopped, left your siege then killed it.

Right, because no one ever kills Illusions in 1 or 2 hits…….who would ever think of standing there, watching their seige weaponry getting smashed on screaming at the sky because Illuions have taken over….

Godlike Illusions?

Stop these from being cast up and down a wall please.

Only things that should be able to hit people on a tower/castle wall or the ground from the top is seige weapons.

Make walls and the ground around it off limits to ground based AoE’s unless you are standing on the wall or ground.

This puts more emphasis on the requirement for siege weaponry for the success of a take over for a tower/castle instead of just zerging a door down.

Drunken Mad King.8193:

No they don’t get Vit. Clones have a set amount of hp based on level and then you can boost it through a Trait however that trait is a little glitched. The glitch is that it spawns at the base hp and then raises to the increased amount after a few seconds. This can cause your clones to get killed before the boost in hps happens.

This explains why sometimes my iWarden dies the instant he is summoned.

Carighan.6758:

The problem is less simply than you – or us as a whole – make it appear, though. If they were to fix all my traits, I’d have such a huge surge in power I’d need at least twice as many nerfs again as I’m getting fixes.

So I can understand it’s really not a simply thing for them to do. Annoying as it is – Vengeful Images <-> Phantasmal Healing is still bugged. -.-

You miss the point here.

They keep nerfing skills based on broken traits……

Fix whats broken, then run it for a month or two then adjust when you have a correct reflection of the class in its correct state.

You simply do not adjust skills on broken mechanics.

You keep nerfing our Illusions into the ground every patch.

Getting old, it is not viable to run Illusions in PvP now regardless wether it is sPvP or WvW.

I guess our mantras will be nerfed next…

No point having Illusions if they aren’t worth casting, not to mention the bugs involved with them which are also yet to be addressed.

UptheIronz.6732:

Well Deserved and Finaly , and i play mesmer can take on 2v1 easy mode , now it’s challenging at least

None of these changes effect your ability to 2v1…….

Does my characters Vit/Toughness transfer to my illusions/clones?

nosleepdemon.1368:

Are you trolling or are you just that daft? It’s hard to tell on the internet, so I’m just going to assume you didn’t think your reply through.

The issue is not with taking damage and dying, the issue is taking damage with no way to fight back. If I willingly jump down to fight those players then I will accept my fate, or get lucky and fear their noob arses over a cliff. However I should be able to make the choice of whether to fight or not, and until that choice is made I should not be subject to unavoidable and uncounterable damage.

Spawn points and their mechanics. Look them up.

Once again, the LOS bug will be fixed.

Nerf every skill that can be cast up a wall and down a wall then.

Nothing is stopping you from attacking back, stop being so dramatic and overreacting, you simply target the illusion, kill it.

Nerf Izerker?!?!??!

How about 1 or 2 shot it with autoattack/skills?

Anyone else happen to notice that sometimes the iWarden dies instantly on summon?

Even with extra HP trait and mantra for illusions, still dies instant sometimes.

DreamOfACure.4382:

Like any game with good marketing, the decline in players is merely due to hipsters getting off the bandwagon.

They tried it, liked it for a while, but finally realized it wasn’t for them.

Just like how WoW maintained millions of players, despite there also being millions that can’t stand it anymore – The game appeals to some, but not to all.

GW2 will garner more players as time moves forward. You can’t expect all potential players to pop in on month #1. A lot of players will join over the next 2 to 5 years after finally getting a new computer / overcoming financial circumstances / giving in to their gamer-urges.

Unfortunately, the hipsters make up a large percentage of the overall player base, which is why the industry is hurting so badly due to so many titles and games being released on a yearly basis now, it almost endroses game hopping which only further supports the hipsters.

Forum banter and drama might not destroy a games community, but word of mouth will within the game itself when hipsters take thier friends and those friends take thier friends and so on and so on. It becomes viral very quickly and only takes but a few months to make a dent.

1 gold will buy you a full set of Green level 80 accessories of your choice.

1 gold will buy you a full set of Green level 80 armor of your choice.

From here, you use this until you farm enough materials to do 1 of 2 things:

1) Farm enough materials to sell to buy your Exotic armor
2) Farm enough materials to make your Exotic armor

Choice is yours, but is hardly a grind.

Redael.4697:

Well i do appreciate the comments and the feedbacks. Definetively there is no need to attack others people opinions just because is different than yours. Im sorry that I gave you the impression that I am a 24×7 player because the assumption is far from the truth. I play the game when I can, maybe I didnt mentioned when I said I was level 80. But I just turned level 80 and I discovered like 60% of the map only, so I am not a addicted player like some of you implied.

Also my apologies if the title of the thread gave you the impression that I was saying the game will die tomorrow and we need to find something else to do because that wasn’t the point either. But based on what I read I do have to disagree and here is why in my view.

How many overflow messages you get now? Barely non in my side, which tells me either players are not playing at the same time as when the launch days or there is not that many players playing at all. I am helping a friend that started a few weeks ago so I am visiting with him lower level maps and when I am alone I go to my higher level maps and I barely see anyone playing and I connect a different times. I don’t see players in front of dungeons anymore, the world map is not as active as before. When before a Dynamic Event will get active and a whole battalion of players will show out of now where, now you have to scream for players. So for me the game is not as active as before.

In reference to some comments about me expecting better stuff other than just cosmetic stuff I think is a misconception from your part saying that this game is not about achievements or work hard to get something better but is just for fun. If we are going to play games now with no goal, then why they just dont leave the character at level 1, why there are better weapons and gears? In reality the game does have goals and great rewards while you level slowly. For example I am saving to get the Cultural Gear for my level 80. So I do know I have things to do in the game.

But my point was, what is next? Yes I ado applaud ArenaNet for the monthly events, I think that is what I call a hard work team in order to come up with full maps, npcs, rewards, etc in less than a month just for us to continue enjoying the game.

But I still think that with hard work should come good rewards. Dying in a dungeon which is completly unbalanced so at the end I get 5 items, 3 that I cannot use, 1 that will turn me into a turkey and 1 that is lower than what I have is not rewarding or motivating at all. Other than of course play with your friends. But your comments of not expecting anything and just play for fun I won’t say is wrong because that is your opinion but I dont agree. Because that for me translate to “work and not get paid, just work because you love your work”

Alot of the hardercore players and power gamers realized what you speak off a month or two ago with the casual player base now coming to realize the same thing.

Nox Aeterna.2965:

Raksha.8049:

Holding on to this GW1 mentaility will kill this game with todays genre of gamers.

Im betting on the opposite.

If this game go out of its way to match what all others offer , it will simple have to compete with them on their kind of player base.

I say their kind , because end game being based on skin or power progression is not something you can match. You either do one or the other.

That means , they need to pick if they want to compete if pretty much every other MMO out there for players , or call a smaller number of players for sure , but players that came since they added a different system and from which many will leave once they change to the same other MMOs offer.

I think you are over estimating the crowd that exsists that wants to see your 10 year old design today.

I don’t have proof, but I would bet that GW2’s population is currently bigger then GW1’s population and GW1’s population would be but a mere shadow of its former self with just enough people still playing to support a very small community.

Saidor.7028:

Good grief, are the Sims, Half Life 2 and Minecraft really the top 3 pc games? how sad is that. PC Gamer lists the top 3 as Dues Ex, WoW and Elder Scrolls IV and that’s a pretty pants list as well. The best PC games are Monkey Island, Doom and Tie Fighter with an honourable mention to Far Cry (but not far cry 2 which was the worst PC game ever)

It is based of sales and The Sims series is one of the most sold titles in history.

tyu.9470:

Infractions dont work in a point system where you get suspended after x amount. Infraction is just meaning you did something not fitting the forum rules there for they had to take an action against it. Delete/lock/merge etc.

So when you get a suspension it simply means what you did deserved one. Has nothing to do with previous infractions. I’ve gotten 3 in a week.. all from minor stuff (jokes saying i’d slap people etc. probly counted as real life threat?) and i can use forums freely.

Anet people will probably give you a better explanation but i am PRETTY (if not totally) sure infractions only mean that admin action was taken due to a post of yours. Nothing more.

I’ve been banned for off topic posts, I hardly think off topic posts deserve an infraction. Secondly, who has the right to determine what is classed as off topic if more then 75% of the body of the post/reply is on topic? Want to hear something funny, I have been banned for an off topic post/reply in one of my own threads……..really?

Last few bans I recieved, didn’t even incur an infraction nor did I recieve a pm, email response from forums@arena.net or a explanation as to why.

Nox Aeterna.2965:

The game is not dying , the game is just going to its normal population after release like every MMO that goes out does. Every single one does this and yet people still come to say the game is going to end next month.

Second , this game is about looks , that is what made this game diferent and what made it stand out to the eyes of many who were tired of what pretty much every other offer.

Games are never meant to everyone , they have a target audience. Even MMOs who do try to captivate more kinds of players.

So if you cant stand a basic concept of the game , which is the fact end game grind is for looks , the problem is that this game is really not meant for you , there are plenty of other who already offer what you seek.

Holding on to this GW1 mentaility will kill this game with todays genre of gamers.

uknortherner.2670:

Good luck finding teammates who actually want to work together rather than run off and do their own thing once you enter a dungeon (or bail out altogether when they discover that their teammates aren’t wearing uber-leet armour like themselves). This is why I favour solo play – I actually want to explore and enjoy the dungeons, not speedrun the things like some of the people I used to end up grouping with.

ANet have already capitulated to the loud-mouthed gear-grinders, so what can possibly be wrong with making dungeons more accessible to people who are increasingly sick to death of elitists?

Join a guild?

papryk.6273:

please change the title of thread to : Anet here’s what I want. Why do you speak in the name of the community and all the players?

Incase you hadn’t noticed, he/she pretty much listed what everyone wants…

Problem is, I have yet to experience a forum moderator act accordingly to what he states.

In light of your thread:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/A-Message-About-the-Infraction-System/first#post503827

First of all, this is not a topic about moderation, it is a topic about the infraction system.

So can you please explain to us how our accounts can be banned without recieving an infraction, PM or email?

Can you please explain to us why no one replies to our emails we send to forums@arena.net. I have emails that are pushing 28 days old and no response.

You say that minor infractions will not lead to suspensions yet I have been banned for something as trivial as my post being off topic

I have been banned for not contributing to the topic at hand in my very own thread!!!!!

See where this is going Mark?

I am starting to think that what ever or who ever you have doing the forum work does not understand your own infraction system as I have yet to experience anything you stated in your thread on how the system works.

Everything is dealt with bans or infractions that remove points.

Don’t you think this is a tad extreme when simply removal of posts with a warning to go with it will suffice until enough warnings deserve an infraction?

Sdric.8526:

Raksha.8049:

Sdric.8526:

@Raksha

Currently there is a cap.
Once you hit it you’re forever free for WvW.
You can take a break for a month or two and still know you can always come back.

Well, that’s at least what was promised.

With the new Ascended gear people are forced into constant grinding to stay competitive.
Each month, over and over again.
Some people simply don#t have the time for that.
Maybe not being forced to grind was one of the promises which made many people choose GW2 over other MMOs.

So how did people get the time to get where they are now?

Maybe they sacrificed a lot of their holidays to get there.
Sadly you can only have them once or twice a year and maybe can’t afford it to grind each month.

What about the casual players who have achieved this and have work, kids, social lives, responsibilities, mortages?

Where does it say that these content updates will be released every month?

pregnable.1954:

If ascended gear is actually going into the game, let WvW use pvp gear.

This way we do not have to farm new gear every time a new tier is added or when a major balance change is made.

But then why would people want to stay and play the game?

What would people set thier sights on to achieving next?

Oldgrimm.8521:

in lieu of ascended items coming in the picture,

i imagined that if you have a full ascended berserkers set( assummingly)

you will eventually have (estimate) around 140% crit damage (following the trend of magic find posted in the picture)

this would create a greater chaos in wvwvw

Without knowing the calculation or algorithum involved in how damage is fully mitigated, then I propose no.

Until we know exactly how damage is mitigated down, then I think that devs time is better spent else where.

GADefence.5634:

“If you can’t understand why companies go F2P today, then you must not be aware that online gold sales for gaming in MMORPG’s is a multi-million dollar industry.

Why would a company waste time with a subscription based model when they can potentially earn millions more from a cash shop?"

You do realize that 90~% of those sales are for cosmetic or convenience items, right? Except for the Asian-esque styles MMOs who rely close-to-completely on selling you key upgrades to get better gear. Guess what – everyone who wants that can go there!

What you don’t understand is converting a water purifying plant into a metal refinery is absolutely kitten if you’re the leader in water purifying and aren’t setup to refine metal.

The reason 90% of companies go F2P is since micro transcations make up a good portion of their sales since people don’t mind farming more if the game is free. Why does WoW still have a subscription?

You also do realize you can transfer gems into ingame Gold without being penalized, right?

Oboro Donryu.6124:

I will not take part in a constant hunt for this better armour level 80 armour should be just that not this constant need to upgrade ill find something else to spend my time and money on

Why should it? Please be more elaborate.

Sdric.8526:

@Raksha

Currently there is a cap.
Once you hit it you’re forever free for WvW.
You can take a break for a month or two and still know you can always come back.

Well, that’s at least what was promised.

With the new Ascended gear people are forced into constant grinding to stay competitive.
Each month, over and over again.
Some people simply don#t have the time for that.
Maybe not being forced to grind was one of the promises which made many people choose GW2 over other MMOs.

So how did people get the time to get where they are now?

runeblade.7514:

You chose to focus on magic find and 1% when I clearly stated that it is a 7.9% increase. The explorer ring was used because it was the only one that has details released to the public.

You need reading comprehension skills before you argue about things you don’t know.

I beg to differ, the stat upgrade while visable is quite low in terms of the outcome of the determination of a fight.

A skilled player in full exotic, will still beat a fully equipped ascended.

Sdric.8526:

Disable Ascended gear for WvW!

Ascended Gear, as well as the announced item progression, cuts of casual gamers and working/Studying people from competitive WvW.

Unless you don’t/can’t >waste< your time to grind this gear each month, you’re cut of the endgame content.
The kind of endgame content which was announced to be grind-free, standing above all other MMOs.
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If Ascended Gear stays PvE-only most people won’t have a problem with that.
Maybe even accept it as a motivation.

But: As soon as it becomes a must have for WvW, it splitts the playerbase and drives people away.

Let me ask why?

So, people have farmed up to now and then what?

Who is saying it is a must for WvW?

Why can a level 1 player join WvW? Shouldn’t it be a must to be level 80 to join?

I think this kind of mentaility and pushing on Anet is just getting childish and silly.

CureForLiving.5360:

Raksha.8049:

Why can’t Anet cater to both crowds?

Jack of all trades master of none. The fear (or might I saw the eventuality) is that ANet will focus more on one or the other or not give enough attention to either.

Thats why I think it is a tad early to throw the baby out of the bath water.

Up to now, Anet has done a pretty good job at catering to everyone, alas, the end game content is a little lacking, which they even addressed in thier latest news update.

GADefence.5634:

“Todays gaming genre want more then just to look cool, looking cool and participating in the same old content over and over again for months on end does not keep people playing or paying money in the cash shop. Content and character progression does. It is a proven buisness platform that certain companies have been monopolizing and taking advantage of now for the best part of a decade and after Anet spent out 150+ million dollars creating this title, do you really think they are going to just run with the hopes that people will stay and play based on skins?”

What in the blooming kitten hells are you talking about?

Fighting games, FPS, RTS, every-gaming-genre-that-is-not-a-freaking-RPG all are begging solely for more customization and the ability to barbie up their games.

People in MMORPGs for the most part want new content and (for some reason I will never understand) bigger numbers (I again point out a change from numbers to percentages would kill every MMO in existance right now). Look at what most people want – more options to have fun. That was page after page after page after page. Horse, houses, bigger sieges, owning towns.

Look at the part of the community that’s dying – TOR is going F2P, how many gear grind MMOs have closed, how many are fringed and nearly dead and relying on the few super expensive items to keep going? Adding ever increasing stat grinds make a % of the community happy, a % of the community angry and scares off most newcomers. The issue is GW2 is setup in a way that it doesn’t need or benefit from new tiers. Adding new tiers makes a lot of people want to quit – hardcores and non hardcore – and won’t add a lot of newcomers who are either already playing and will think of quiting or already farming in another MMO that gives them the gear grind they really want.

Let me be blunt.

This is GW2, not GW1. GW1 platform is 10 years old.

If you can’t understand why companies go F2P today, then you must not be aware that online gold sales for gaming in MMORPG’s is a multi-million dollar industry.

Why would a company waste time with a subscription based model when they can potentially earn millions more from a cash shop?

Thunderstruck.5368:

I actually looked up what ingredients/mats would be needed to make the staff last night and realized I will never own one lol. I can’t imagine how much time would be involved in obtaining this weapon…… To be honest I would actually be embarrassed to equip one of these on my character , To me it would be a badge of shame for all the hours of my life i just wasted grinding for one lol.

This is the basis for my argument right here.

Alot of people seem to use the argument that they want to grind skins rather then grinding gear, yet, to gain a Legendary, you have hit the nail on the head.

For a casual player, you are looking at months before they get one, if they even get one.

So am I missing something here or have I noticed that the orginal complaint is not with the actual gear grind, but how you are treated if you don’t have x gear?

Also, the argument about being handicapped based on gear is moot, because if that was the case, then a Level 1 character would have a leg to stand on when fighting Level 80’s in full Exotic gear in WvW.

Let me ask you this, to those of you who are happy grinding skins but not grinding gear, please explain to me this concept because both are one in the same, ethier way, you are grinding a treadmill.

Alternatively, why can’t we have the best of both worlds?

Why can’t those of who like grinding skins, go grind skins.

Why can’t those of us who like character and content progression, go grind that?

Why can’t Anet cater to both crowds?

Why do you feel you need to participate in something that does not directly effect your ability to farm your skins?

The way I see it, Anet has always stated they wanted to cater to many types of different players during the creation of GW2 and this is exactly that.

Grinding skins, gear, content, stats it doesn’t matter. The fact is, Anet allows many different play styles here to accomplishment what they enjoy doing most.

So my advice is, go do what you enjoy, because nothing is stopping people from doing one or the other nor does one require the other to complete.

Azaziel.3608:

Taemek.1602:

Azaziel.3608:

So you’d do all that work to just see bigger numbers on your screen, but not to see a better looking weapon on your character….hmmm.

Correct, because that is called, character progression.

Looking cool is just fluff and if you think this game will survive on that model with todays gaming genre, I think you have seriously overestimated a 10+ year old platform.

I’m sorry but for me seeing bigger numbers aims to the same type of “satisfaction” that better looking gear does and it gets obtained the same way. Your character has something now that it didn’t had before, if it makes you hit harder or look better, it’s the same thing, if you want something better you’ll have to do some sort of hard/grindy thing.
Besides, if I hit more, then monsters will be stronger so really it doesn’t make any difference, and even if you wanted to do the current content easier it just wouldn’t happen because they would probably scale you down leaving you as powerful as you’re now.

You are completely missing the reasoning behind character progression. It has nothing to do with numbers.

It is so you can explore further into the games content that it has to offer.

Let me ask you this, you are happy grinding skins but not grinding gear? Explain to me this concept because both are one in the same, ethier way, you are grinding a treadmill.

Alternatively, why can’t we have the best of both worlds?

Why can’t those of who like grinding skins, go grind skins.

Why can’t those of us who like character and content progression, go grind that?

Why can’t Anet cater to both crowds?

Why do you feel you need to participate in something that does not directly effect your ability to farm your skins?

Brown Fang Thump.9482:

Adine.2184:

Except for the fact that if you had armor runed a specific way for specific builds you still had to have all your armor infused as Spectral Agony would kill you in a heart beat if if you weren’t infused . Additionally your unenthusiastic armor comment wouldn’t of held up in the early days of GW1 as your stats were determined by the armor set you wore forcing you into some pretty ugly looks .

As you know, runes could be swapped at will, as long as you could afford them; so, swapping runes and insignias on a single set of armour was always cheaper in GW1 than buying a brand new set of armour to special purpose. Also, if you did keep alternative armour for specific purposes it could still be any armour you liked. You were never forced to wear Obsidian Armour because it was the only armour that could be infused against foe X.

Mursaat were introduced to players in Prophecies as maximum level content, as noted on the wiki, which also gives more information on infusion:

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Mursaat
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Infusion

As to whether or not, and how, armour statistics were bound to armour type, the history of the most early form of the game is irrelevant in light of how the game evolved over time. Still, if you need specifics to remind you what the state of GW1 game is now (which is more relevant) you can look at the following urls:

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Prestige_armor
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Armor_calculation

What you should note is that “Prestige armor is no different from any other max armor apart from its appearance and cost. Although you do not need to be ascended to wear prestige armor, some sets are unavailable until you have completed the relevant campaign’s storyline.” Prestige armour does not have stats determined by armour set the statistics for the armour are based on character profession, level and player selected upgrades. This is not the case in GW2, which has more inherent statistics bound to each piece of gear.

It would also have been nice if you could have included a direct answer to my question in your comment.

While your posts are well written, I have to disagree.

I never really liked GW1, however I am quite enjoying how GW2 is being handled thus far.

If I wanted to play GW1, I would be still playing it.

You want to be able to upgrade straight to Ascended from Exotics? Those same exotics that cost no more then 20 – 30 silver for some on the trade house?

Hmmm, somehow I don’t think that will fly.

I find it strange that people are willing to farm for months on end for something as trivial as one weapon skin which is simply a look but would not farm for something like Ascended based gear which can be upgraded over time with future expasions/content patches.

Does anyone else find this mind set boggling?

Bardak.8413:

i totally agree with the title of the thread…i want to play Guild Wars, not another wow-clone where the endgame is farming the equipment. GW1 not needed this type of endgame and i love it for this…
if you choose to introduce new sets like ascendant (understood as more powerful than exotic items) I will leave the game because it is not the game you advertised for all these years and does not follow the philosophy of the original guild wars.
ok new dungeons and new sets of armor but using the same stats of exotic.
i think you are destroying your game and betraying your long date fans

To everyone and anyone who claims they will simply quit the second they run with a design platform like this, let me point out the flaw in your argument.

If you paid for the game (which obviously you have or you would not be playing) and spend nothing in the cash shop, Anet losses nothing, they made money from your box sale.

If you paid for the game and spent money on the cash shop, Anet made a bonus from you and depending on the amount you have spent, you can divide that payment to break up into a monthly fee that some subscription based MMORPG’s charge.

So in actual fact, for Anet, this is a win/win.

nofo.8469:

Taemek.1602:

SiNoS.2147:

This should have just been brought into the game like infusion was in the first game with being able to add the infusion to your currently existing exotics without raising the stat level. As it sets they are just going to ruin there game as the only game to thrive on the treadmill has been WoW. Every other game has crashed and burned when these changes have started.

Very bland and blanket based statements based upon what proof?

Just about every other game that has crashed and burned is still running, with minimal population and this, could just as well been planned in thier forcast for the games life span.

The question people like yourself needs to ask is, how many people are gaming companies willing to cater too before they pull the plug on the servers? This we will never know, but if a game is still floating and releasing content, clearly, they are not crashing and burning.

On top of this, no, that game you mention which we will not speak of is not the only game to thrive on a gear grind treadmill, many are still thriving on it and are still releasing content.

The failure is, people like yourself who only choose to compaire everything to that mmorpg. That is the only problem.

Are you seriously trying to say they planned for this game to crash and burn with minimal population?

Many are not “still thriving on it” please list one. From what I have seen every MMO that has tried to compete with WoW is doing anything and everything in their power to stay afloat and keep the few remaining players they have.

Guild Wars 2 already has the PvP playerbase and they have no competitors aside from EVE and darkfall.

They are throwing this away to appease the WoW players who love to gear treadmill.

Yes, the people who bought this game and believed ArenaNet when they said this would be a PvP + vanity hunting game are getting extremely frustrated right now.

Why do you assume that every MMORPG automatically competes with that game we won’t mention?

Why do you assume that these companies have no contingency plan or bottom line on the amount of subscribers they require to stay afloat?

I some how do not think that investors would see it your way.

Explain to us your logic behind how this effects PvP and what forms of the enviroment does it effect in PvP.

Chamone.6890:

Taemek.1602:

Lost Shores dictates otherwise.

I think there is enough threads about this topic already, there does not need to be a negative demoralizing thread generated again.

In fact there have NOT been enough threads on this topic, which is the reason Anet thought it was a good idea in the first place.

I have watched over the past 8 weeks the “power gamer” ex-WoW people ask for gear grind over and over and over, now they have it, and the rest of the community is in outrage!

Well this is what you get for not responding to the “power gamers” on the forums and registering your disgust. If they make 100 threads saying “Give us gear grind” and nobody replies with “WE DONT WANT THIS” then it looks like those 100 threads are the opinion of the players.

Frist of all, you have no proof that this is directly related to those people in question.

Secondly, you cannot speak on behalf of the community because 1 or 2 threads have been made about this change with the same people posting in them.

Third, even casual players at this point have 1 or 2 level 80’s they have been working on.

Fourth, I am getting sick and tired of the stereo type that people like yourself throw people into with the game brand we will not mention.

Fifth and final, it has been proven, countless times over the past 15 years that but a fraction of a games community even come to the forums.

So while you seem to want to blame this mythical group of players dubbed as the power gamers, I beg to differ.

Again, A-net doesn’t invest 150+ million dollars on the hopes that people will play for free, again, hoping they spend some money in the cash shop farming skins.

It is simply unrealistic in this day and age to ask people to spend thier time playing for something so trivial and non-beneficial to the growth and progression of ones character.

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This should have just been brought into the game like infusion was in the first game with being able to add the infusion to your currently existing exotics without raising the stat level. As it sets they are just going to ruin there game as the only game to thrive on the treadmill has been WoW. Every other game has crashed and burned when these changes have started.

Very bland and blanket based statements based upon what proof?

Just about every other game that has crashed and burned is still running, with minimal population and this, could just as well been planned in thier forcast for the games life span.

The question people like yourself needs to ask is, how many people are gaming companies willing to cater too before they pull the plug on the servers? This we will never know, but if a game is still floating and releasing content, clearly, they are not crashing and burning.

On top of this, no, that game you mention which we will not speak of is not the only game to thrive on a gear grind treadmill, many are still thriving on it and are still releasing content.

The failure is, people like yourself who only choose to compaire everything to that mmorpg. That is the only problem.

Going from a player base well over 1 million to maybe 200000 if there lucky thats crashing and crashing hard. Frankly those other games are not thriving. They are shell’s of them former self’s. Rift crashed and burned because they followed that trend. SWTOR crashed because they followed that trend. Those are two of the biggest games in the last 2-3 years and both flopped when they catered to this mind set. As for your claim of people like me you clearly dont know anything about me.

Again, you have no proof and that is entirely your own opinion.

One of those games is about to launch an expansion, so clearly, it hasn’t crashed and burned and again, I point out to you, you have no idea on what kind of population they can cater too before pulling the plug.

200’000 subs is quite good for today’s age and as long as they are making money, who cares?

My opinion on the game in question is quite different to yours, but I won’t go there.

When a game has to go F2P in order to even attempt to make it shows that infact they are dieing. Thats fact. All you keep spouting is i have no proof. Troll needs to move on. Im done feeding you.

GW2 is f2p, what exactly are you implying here?

Also, you in fact, do not have any real proof supporting anything you claim and your opinions sound quite biased and derogative towards the company in question and you are not privy to thier buisness structure or internal account managament, so you have no real way of knowing how things are from a finance point of view.

You answered your own question.

Time is irrelevent, you all achieved something.

The key phrase here is, you all achieved. How you determine that level of accomplishment is up to you, but the design of the game is not the flaw here because again, you all achieved something for your efforts.

So my account was again just suspended, AGAIN (this is my wifes account).

No PM, email, post it was in regards too. I know which post was removed and AGAIN, reading comprehension of these forum morderators is terrible if they can not understand what we are talking about.

If anyone can please help me out here, check my past post history and try and help me out to determine why I was banned please.

Taemek.1602 is the chat handle and apparently this is the thread is which I was banned from:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Don-t-implement-a-gear-treadmill

As you can see, even other posters are starting to reconize this abuse of moderation.