Guild Wars 2

And of course, Anet has nothing to say. But we expect this, don’t we.

nickiehu.1674:

Because it’s a cash-issue, such changes cost $$$, something ArenaNet doesn’t want to spend, it seems. They know this problem for months but nothing came out of it.
Besides – what’s Arena’s way of earning money? Right, selling stuff like special animated picks, costumes and so on, something WvWler don’t really need. So WHY invest in something, that is considered to give no money back? (Even though WvW is a big figurehead).

Yes, servers cost money, and the issues are mainly in WvW, but I have skill lag all the time when playing in the normal world also so I dont see why Anet isnt addressing this issue, they need to and fast, before all players are posting on the forums.

When WvW players start to leave because of this, skill lag might go away for PvErs, but what will PvErs do about all their free world bonuses that came from WvW that those players got for them and worked all week to get for them? Server bonuses will start to disappear as WvW players start to leave, PvE players will start to make less and less money, Gem sales will dwindle, Anet will fall, mhm, called it a long time ago.

Watch them scramble for an expansion release to try and save the game. Don’t see that helping, what with the skill lag killing the game play, why would more data to the servers help this issue? Lets see what happens…

Vayne.8563:

Anyone who wants to do it, can find out where it’s being done and make it their business to be there.

I’m not sure why people think every single aspect of a game needs to be able to be done by every single player in the game in the first place.

Dude, just cause Teq is in window, does not mean it is being done, I have showed up to numerous Teq events cause he was in window and no one was there, no overflow, just nothing, maybe a dozen people, this has to be planned now and if you don’t get in that planned event you are screwed, and who wants to get an organized group together for a meta event? Anet has just gone and ruined one of the daily meta events, and if they do this to Shatterer and Jormag, they will ruin them also.

No one has time to waste to get 50-80 people together just to take down a dragon for what, 4-8 greens and the daily rare, and a very, very rare chance at something nice, no thanks, this is a total waste of space in game imo. Just like all of Southsun.

Arrow.3856:

Dont worry it will get fixed august 2014

Yeah, it’s gonna get pushed to the back of the desk, just like precursor crafting has, promises made, promises broken, not that they have made any about TEQ and not that we are asking for any but please, don’t Anet, we don’t want you to break anymore.

Xista.7391:

Jade Quarry tonight.

Thought I took another picture. Had a bonewall up at 13 minutes, 0 turrets alive.

And what do you expect, all the PvErs are in WvW cause Anet gave them a bunch of new achievements to go after, and all the WvWrs are sitting in que.

Kincaidia.3192:

It’s not going to happen. If WvW type warfare is your bread and butter, we should just hold a collective wake and move on. The resources for a solution are not available.

I think a big portion of the GW2 player population is just WvW players, and when WvW fails, GW2 fails, SPvP failed already, and PvE is just temp content that is completed in 1-3 hours and deleted in 2 weeks, this game is on its way out.

All I have to say is if they just keep up with the temp content and follow the road they have been this game is just gonna continue on the road is has been, further and further down the list of playable games, why play a game that puts in content just to delete it 2 weeks later, and content that can be completed in 1-3 hours at that.

Should of stuck to your roots Anet.

Vayne.8563:

Tequatl still gets done on some servers and guesting is free. Anyone who insists on getting it done on their server is being stubborn.

The store down the block from where I live was out of milk. Now I have to go without milk. It’s a tragedy. Why doesn’t my store have milk….I mean I have to go to the next shop now, and that’s a couple of blocks away. Oh the pain.

Teq still gets done. The Karka Queen still gets done. You can join a server that does them both if you want…or you can post to the forums and never get your achievement.

It’s better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness.

On the topic of other boss redesigns, I’m pretty sure none of them will require the coordination of Tequatl. Anet does learn from these things, the way they learned from the original Karka event.

You seem to think that if it is getting done on 1 server, everyone can get it done, you forget that server gets full, then people get thrown into overflows, then what, it dont get done. This is what is in store for every dragon event in the soon to be future.

And no, Anet learned nothing from Karka Queen, they never learn, look what they did to WvW, they don’t learn, they think they know everything already.

My bad, just realized who I was responding to, might as well be responding to a wall…

Brando.1374:

Sube Dai.8496:

Add food and all other PvE gear to sPvP.

Add GvG game mode.

Add 1v1 random arena.

Profit.

this has been posted by many people but devs/spvp/tpvp dont want this because it will separate players from the “real” pvp in gw2.

Devs better want it if they want players in their game. Cause players are the real PvP, and as far as I can tell, there is no more real PvP, with the introduction of seasons, they killed WvW, SPvP was already dead, so what is left?

I got no problems with a Shadow Knight or Death Knight class, the Guardian is as far as I’m concerned, Anets version of the Paladin, I think Blizzard did it better but thats another discussion, But I do think we need a 3rd heavy class and we already have a “Holy Warrior” and regular Warriors, why not Death Knights or Shadow knights.

Only thing that offends me is LS and Anet thinking that’s what everyone wants, most of us are here cause we played GW1, this is nothing like GW1 and that’s the only thing that offends me. Broken promises.

You think this is sad, wait till they revamp Jormag and Shatterer and they never get done on your server to. Come back then and tell Anet how ya feel.

Trust me, I know, it never gets done anymore on any server I don’t think, it’s just like the Karka Queen, they introduced it, people did it, now it never gets done anymore, cept on very very rare occasions.

Charak.9761:

Yeah but the expansions gave 6 months of content. It’s been a year of GW2, there is no permanent content left to do, with no rewards worth getting.

The LS gives us 1 day of content every 14 days.

I hated the idea of the Living Story, it was failed from the beginning, every 2 weeks for a temp patch to get 1-3 hours of new content that just gets removed eventually, very lame.

Anet hasn’t added anything halfway decent to the game since Fractals of the mists. Get off your kitten Anet, been over a year already, the game isn’t new anymore, quit trying to use that excuse.

I don’t think the LS made the players greedy, I think it made Anet and NC Soft greedy with the Gem Store, every LS patch they add more junk to the Gem Store. They should have put as much effort into the game as they did into that Gem Store, maybe they would be keeping their players.

milo.6942:

AydenStar.4216:

this game is not a serious PvP game and should have never been advertised or treated as one.

+1

Agree, spvp lost my interest a long time ago, why continue to do it when it never changes and theres no real rewards other then the finishers, I really loved WvW but seasons is not what I wanted, PvE in WvW is a bad Idea, PvErs just want loot and they don’t defend or care that WvWrs upgrade and put money, what little money we have into upgrading towers, keeps, and camps and they could care less about defending it cause they dont lose anything, they don’t put anything into this, the WvWrs do, and Anet is pretty much kittenting on us by bringing PvE to WvW.

They think it would be good? Do they actually discuss these things before hand? I wonder if they record these discussions. Would be funny to watch.

Lord Kuru.3685:

I think you have to compare these achievements with the usual Living Story achievements — that’s how Anet looks at them. And with the Living Story achievements you usually have to do (almost all) aspects of the Living Story to get the meta-achievement. Like it or not, the intention is not to truly measure whether you contribute to WvW. It’s to make/force you do all aspects of WvW.

Let’s look at the living story achievements, dance here, burn this, collect that, they baby PvErs with them Living Story Achievements, they are so simple and easy, get it done in an hour or two, this stuff is a joke, this is supposed to be WvW, PvP, I don’t want the map qued cause the JP is full and PvErs are farming Ogres.

FIX THIS ANET!

How about 1 of each JP and No Mercs?

Should just get rid of all mercs all together and just give all rewards for participating in fighting and defending.

Deli.1302:

Blame all the guilds that transferred to your server over the past couple of weeks, not anet.

why, those guilds didn’t put the pve achievements into wvw, anet did, and anet made transfers cheap and even free for those weeks before season started. So no, I blame Anet.

Disastro.4086:

azizul.8469:

this is a known issue for a year now, nothing new.

I think the issue here is things have gotten worse recently. Not that it’s a new thing.

Much, Much worse, it is almost a constant thing now with no lag being the rare thing were it used to be skill lag was the rare thing in the beginning, now its almost constant, and not just in WvW, anywhere in game I go I have skill lag, LA, Frostgorge, The Mists, any map, my skills lag to hell and it sucks real bad, if Anet doesn’t confront this issue and soon, it will be the death of this game.

I don’t see how they can have free account making events at times like these, you have to imagine that new account makers are logging on and trying to play and just thinking this game is a joke cause they can’t even play most of the time, why would they continue to play if they can’t even use their skills? Come on Anet, give us some air, we are choking here.

DevonCarver.5370:

Agreed. We have a plan for doing something like this that we’ll have more info on later. Right now we have to get it tested and do all the other things before we can be sure it is what we’d want.

How about PvE and WvW seperate Commander tags also?

rizzo.1079:

Sandpit.3467:

Nothing should ever require more than 250. It’s all you can stack in the storage dedicated for this purpose.

Not to mention that the Labyrinth is nowhere near fun enough to keep me grinding for a month straight on all that corn.

Exactly, the labyrinth sucks this year, no skin drops, have only gotten a few tonic drops and don’t even know if the infinite tonic drops this year and doubt it can be sold if it does, why spend all this time in the labyrinth for some stupid mini, why do they add all this crap and nothing good? MINI’s Suck Anet. Sell them on the TP and put the skins in game.

If this game hasn’t made huge changes at the end of season 1 of WvW, I’m telling everyone I know that is playing to start playing FF14 till ESO starts. Better shape up Anet. You got 7 weeks…

Afya.5842:

Rama.6439:

Don’t listen to these peeps, and don’t go full zerker, zerkers are mindless peons. Fractals isn’t a normal dungeon and you do need support, especially in the higher levels, I used a shout build for awhile on my war but changed it up, I use my guard now, not sure what wars run, I would ask around your server, maybe join a guild, dont ask here, to many trolls, you wont get much good advice here.

As far as WvW goes, Season 1 is upon us, Warriors are boss atm if you know what you are doing on them, and it’s every server for themselves. Good luck.

Don’t listen to this. Yes you need support in fractal, but support != tank gear/heal gear. You can have all the reflect, all the block, all the knockdown without a single point in those stats. For a warrior, your support for the group is banner, might, vulnerability etc.

You tell him not to listen to me and then tell him pretty much what I said, ok, and knockdowns don’t work on bosses, so they are kinda useless in dungeons and fractals, they work on trash though, thats it.

And play the char how you want to, it isn’t fun unless you’re having fun, so make sure you’re playing a class you like and a build you like.

GrandmaFunk.3052:

it’s only “grindy” if you want one of those specific rewards.

casual players looking for fun can have just as much fun as they did before…. and most casual players are smart enough to know they can’t chase every reward/title/achievement/item… that some things will simply be out of reach given their casual nature.

Casual players might as well not play, this will make the economy insane for casual players and chase them away, with stuff like the skins that Anet only puts on the bltp and makes them rng for keys and casual players not able to get ahold of them unless they shell out an insane amount of cash for a game they play casually I don’t see that happening.

Bye Bye casuals. Sad Anet didn’t want to play with us, we must not be worthy.

Don’t listen to these peeps, and don’t go full zerker, zerkers are mindless peons. Fractals isn’t a normal dungeon and you do need support, especially in the higher levels, I used a shout build for awhile on my war but changed it up, I use my guard now, not sure what wars run, I would ask around your server, maybe join a guild, dont ask here, to many trolls, you wont get much good advice here.

As far as WvW goes, Season 1 is upon us, Warriors are boss atm if you know what you are doing on them, and it’s every server for themselves. Good luck.

khani.4786:

2) RNG/DR – Despite doing a variety of content (dungeons, farming, events, etc) with 300%+ MF I see the amount of rares/exotics in a week as a “lucky” person sees with no MF in a day. How do we fix this without taking all the fun out of getting random stuff and saturating the market.

1.RNG
2.Guild Halls
3.RNG

I myself think that rng is a joke, would much rather be rewarded for skill in this game. Otherwise why be any good at it other then just to get by? Dumb luck get’s the bank.

VidGhost.3215:

They will introduce it when 50% of the player base start to quit! but i’m guessing by that time it will have been too late!

I have a feeling a bunch are gonna leave near the end of this year or maybe at the end of WvW season 1 and Anet will try and hurry to put it in next season it will be to late and then they will try and get players back with an expansion announcement, but only time will tell.

Ulion.5476:

This is the final week of normal matches. After that we can expect more of the same type of matchup in gold league, silver league will be dominated by Mag or FA with kain/NSP losing every match, and bronze league will be the fun league.

If your Idea of fun is a dead Battlefield then yes I guess it will be. But all the good fights are in the Gold, and will stay there probably for awhile.

Xcom.1926:

Chris Whiteside.6102:

Hi,

As detailed in the thread the point of this initiative is to get us back to a more constructive dialog. We have been super super busy all this year and with the help of the community we are trying to create a sustainable process in which we can have constructive discussion and brainstorming around specific areas of the game without hampering the output or quality of the GW2. We hope that this process works out and that we will see 2 way discussion from the community and devs on a daily basis across all the areas of the game.

Chris, I actually think most of the posts on these forums were actually constructive. Yes there were some with anger and trolling but most were constructive. However, a lot of the constructive ones were negative (some extremely negative). And I have noticed they are getting more negative as time goes on. I notice these three topics mostly:

• Promises not being met (real or perceived)
• Things/balance not being fixed or looked at quickly enough. (Some have taken a long time to be fixed or even addressed)
• Expectations of content (temp vs perma; 2-week updates vs. something else)

I personally think, unless those things are addressed and communicated correctly, nothing will change.

Thanks.

Agree with post 100%, especially about the promises not being met and this is in no way to be rude, but when promises are made, and then broken, and when they say hey we will be adding this into the game by this time and then they turn around and don’t do it and do that over and over again and expect us to just believe what is said, sorry, there is only so much that we can take before we have to call you out.

No more promises please, just do what you said you would do in the first place, that would make a lot of the veteran players happy, might get a lot of the players that left to come back also.

I like what Sirendor said about the game being pretty much a grind, it is, and it gets boring, I agree that there is absolutely no skill needed in this game at all to aquire anything and that is sad, I think that skins should need to be aquired with tough hard to kill bosses, legendaries to, not this rng that anyone can get 2-3 from the forge in 5 mins, that just isnt right, I mean why even try to be good at anything in this game if all you have to do is be 80 and spam 1?

Kaleban.9834:

Here might be a suggestion that can help with design issues, sort of an ongoing beta test.

As an example, over at Egosoft I’m a level 3 user. Means I have access to more dev related material and such on forums.

Why not do that here? Have people sign up (or some “qualification” process) with the expectation that they will be giving QUALITY feedback that is well written and concise. Too often on forums, everyone thinks they’re an expert, or claim to be game designers with hundreds of years of experience, etc.

And only allow those who’ve qualified to post in the official collaborative threads. That keeps those kinds of threads from bloating with meaningless OT posts, people complaining about such and such game feature, whining about nerfs to their pet class or buffs to other classes and more. And it cuts down on the need for moderators to slice and dice a thread, which further cuts down on the conspiracy theory posts of “ANet hates its players.”

So in effect, these players with special status become the general playerbase’s representatives to ANet. Heck, maybe even give those players a special color on their nameplates in game, that is, if they’re willing to be inundated by player whispers while doing Frostgorge Champ runs lol. But the end result is you’d have a selection of players who can act as a SOTG team that is constantly giving feedback that is constructive and current, and represents the overall community’s opinions without the hyper concentrated views on game forums.

I kinda like that idea, how about having forums posters answer some multiple choice questions made up by the devs to see who is able to post on said forums. It would make it easier on the mods and keep them free of trolls. Doubt it would happen though. Nice idea though.

Chuo.4238:

Chris Whiteside.6102:

I think the thread is getting pretty of track at this point. We have discussed implementation of the 3 threads and had some pretty enjoyable conversations.

if we have nothing more to contribute about the Collaboration process then i suggest that we think about closing the thread, as folks who want answers on questions that are not on topic are going to get frustrated if i don’t discuss it with them.

Do we want to continue talking about the main topic of the thread?

Chris

Absolutely. Collaborative Development is a tremendous improvement over the state of communications between the community and ArenaNet that’s existed since launch.

I don’t play GW2 any more, but I do watch what’s happening because I loved Guild Wars so much and for so many years – I’ve been hoping to see some changes that might bring me back into GW2.

So I absolutely want to see where this idea goes – and therefore where the game goes.

I agree here, I do still play the game, but a lot of the people I started with quit when the living story was implemented, some took a break and when they came back and saw they couldn’t make up content got upset and quit, myself I have gotten addicted to WvW but as of late have lost interest there also, but there is nothing out there for me right now and want to stick around and see where the game is going, I played GW, was in the beta and played it for awhile. But when they announced this game I kept track of it, I waited for this game for years, was really excited for it and was looking forward to a lot of things in it that were in GW, and was really disappointed that they weren’t in game when it was released, but of course it was new and figured it would be in soon, then no expansion, and no talk of all the things that were in GW being put into GW2. Sad. Very Sad. Me. But one can always hope, even though it does seem futile.

nethykins.7986:

Vayne.8563:

…People aren’t game designers. They know what they think they want, without considering the ramifications of what they’re asking for.

And Game Designers aren’t psychics that think they know the ramifications of what they’re adding without that player feedback. The one thing they should know is that if you give players something, they will not always complete it to the timeframe you expect (see: rush to push in ascended) or in the fashion you expect (see: dungeon exploits)

….And now we have champion trains and Scarlet invasions and people running around in mindless circles farming the same champions. Doesn’t sound to me like the game I bought.

The thing is, the game you brought, probably wasn’t the same game that was marketed to you either. Even what was marketed to you/sold to you, and what the game is now is not the same. There’s a general disconnect. (And I’m not talking about “promises” here either…just plain, “We will do this, and try and make this. We’re not just another MMO” then logging in, and finding it’s not like that)
This is what confuses me about your post.
You dislike where the game has gone, but don’t think feedback is helpful….but you’d surely have to give feedback to get it to be “the game you bought”, but that wouldn’t be helpful….

Bit of a catch 22 there.

Anet isn’t obligated to do everything fans want (assuming fans can even agree). And fan feedback isn’t necessarily going to be the way to go.

I don’t think anyone’s saying that. We’re asking for this communication that they so happily pride themselves on. The more we see it, the more we feel that our comments and legitimate issues (yes! there actually are legitimate bits of feedback like the illusive 3rd health on necro’s downed state, or Ranger’s pets not moving at the patched “33% faster speed”)

I’m sorry, people aren’t game designers? Are robots game designers?

This is why we have said many a time that Anet should play with us more, and without the Anet tags. To see what the community is saying and doing and what they are wanting, most of the time when I do see an Anet employee they just stand there for 5 mins and do nothing like they are afk then they disappear. Drop the tag, play with us, do some of these easy dungeon runs and champ farms that are getting older and older. We need new stuff, not revamped stuff, if you guys played with us you would get that.

Well you say people aren’t game designers, I say game designers aren’t GAMERS!

Yes, I do think there is an issue with the moderators on the forums, I don’t really want to quit the game but everytime you post feedback, negative or criticizing and it gets deleted and you get infracted and banned it gets frustrating, what is there to build on if all you have is positive feedback, you need to know what your problems and faults are in the game so that you know what your gamers are unhappy with in order to fix them and make the community happy, banning them from the forums makes that not possible. I have stated before in these forums that I like to give Anet a hard time, that I think it keeps them on their toes so to say, not that I don’t like them, I don’t even know them why would I dislike them, but when I get in trouble trying to tell them what I think they did wrong, I think that is just wrong all together. Makes me feel like the game is being run by communists.

Chris Whiteside.6102:

Thanks for the feedback over night and this morning.

Please note i am going to be afk for most of the day but will catch up as frequently as possible.

What i will do is create a thread on the PVE, WvW and PvP forums asking for the community to name 1 area of the said area that they would like to discuss first and then we will start the discussions on Monday.

Overnight there have been a lot of questions as to why we are trying to reconnect. The answer is simple: I want us to get back to a better state of collaborative development as i feel this is in the best interests of everyone. Like i said in the thread we read all posts both positive and negative, we just want the forums to be a more constructive environment for everyone to post in.

Speak to you all soon,

Chris

Actually the negative posts get deleted and we get infractions for them, and eventually we get banned for them. NEGATIVE FEEDBACK ON THE FORUMS IS NOT ALOUD! I have been banned for it numerous times, moderators saying that negative postings is not aloud.

And I expect to be banned for it this time to, and like before I am not being rude, just telling you how it is.

So, how many people got their posts deleted at the beginning of this and banned? I got banned from the forums for 3 days for calling them out.

I think it’s hilarious that they can’t take negative feedback, and delete it, they only want positive feedback, how do you build on only positive feedback?

Distaste.4801:

Balkanwarrior.5132:

Here you go, Shelledfade.6435. I forgot that I had sold back to back Dusks so you get an extra 1.

http://lotsofpictures11.imgur.com/

While I don’t doubt you have gotten precursors, but I can take a guess at how you’ve accomplished this. You got lucky a few times in a row, “exploited” early on, spend all day on BLTP turning goods, or maxed your credit card and got enough money to continue sinking hundreds of gold into making them and basically run the market. That’s the entire problem with this is that a few people control the market in more than a few areas. Some people exploited the rate of precursors early on and made thousands upon thousands allowing them to control the markets. They could buy up everything and set the price at what they wanted with little or no competition. The gaps only widened as ArenaNet nerfed anything worth farming and turned their game into a grinding simulator.

This basically leaves the unlucky, non-super hardcore, non-exploiters, and those not willing to tank their credit rating out in the cold. They have a miniscule chance, not impossible, of getting a precursor by playing the game normally; that is what needs to change. I doubt that ArenaNet will change it anytime soon though because it makes them money.

It won’t make them money much longer, players are bored with the content and the revamps are just making players mad, new games are due out soon and players will start to leave, what’s Anet gonna do then? Run to an expansion?

Have No Faith In Me.1840:

@ OP, I have 1100g atm and I don’t want to buy dusk off the TP for 800g either.

Why should I give away a huge sum of money to some idiot who had sheer dumb luck bless them? What a joke. I got zap from forge, but I bought howl for 200g (which pushes the border of acceptable).

This is the exact way I feel, if someone wants to waste their gold on a weapon, go ahead, when I get one that drops I’ll be happy to post it up there for you to buy but I will never buy one at these prices.

And as far as precursor crafting it’s only a matter of time, Anet put us on this road, they said it would happen and they said it would happen this year, if they go back on it then that just makes them liars, plain and simple. So what if they have other stuff to work on, you know what, let the living story wait, it isn’t going anywhere, hasn’t since it started, they add some and remove it, how about adding a lot of stuff and leaving it.
And how about sticking with doing what you said you were gonna do…

Balkanwarrior.5132:

Shelledfade.6435:

Balkanwarrior.5132:

Shelledfade.6435:

Balkanwarrior.5132:

Shelledfade.6435:

PetricaKerempuh.7958:

it will get implemented. i fear how.

probably legendary worth of materials for precursor.

I wouldn’t mind spending 200-300g in mats to craft it.

I’m more afraid of how much bullcrap we’re gonna have to go through in ascended materials for it. Dragonite ore is painful to acquire. I don’t like doing those events.

Can you imagine if Dusk/Dawn were 200-300g each? You would see double the amount of Twilights and Sunrises. If Anet introduces precursor crafting and it costs this little to make 1, legendaries will become more common than abyss dye.

Stop wanting legendaries to be easier than they already are. You’re already complaining about doing events for dragonite ore. When precursor crafting comes around you’ll complain about it costing 500g+ 3 weeks of timegating

So what? 800g is too much and there is nothing legendary about that when other people spend barely anything and get them because they got lucky with RNG.

300g is plenty to spend on a precursor. Play a different game if u don’t like that or go horde 800g again.

If it was too much, I wouldn’t have sold my last 4 Dusks for 800g.

300g is plenty to spend on a precursor. You’re right. In fact, there are a few on the TP listed for around 300g right now. Sadly, they are worth 300g because they aren’t highly demanded. Who’s fault is it that Twilight/Sunrise/The Legend are the top 3 most demanded legendary weps?

Precursor crafting will fix nothing apart from giving people a surefire way to obtain their precursor. That’s what people want and I hope Anet slaps us in the face with it.

oh you sold your last FOUR dusks for 800g huh ? LOL way to make up some ridiculous bull story in order to make a point of no consequence.

Yup. I’v gotten 28 total precursors from the forge. Sorry, do you want me to log on and screenshot my last 4 Dusk sales? I’ll do it just for you if you don’t believe me. You sound really bummed out about having the face the truth that people spend ‘’too much’’ for things that they want.

Yes, I very much want you to SS pictures of something that you already sold, please do this, I like it when people do this, like you said, you would log on and SS your last 4 sales, do it up… And I don’t really care about what kind of gold you farm, I want to see your precursor sales

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Sorry if this sounds awful, but the way I read Mr. Johanson’s response, was this:

We plan on allowing you to make precursors via crafting, but the piece of paper that says “Make precursors craftable” and that’s it, is somewhere on a desk of stuff that we aren’t dealing with right now. I know we already said that it would be available before the end of the year, but since we are not dealing with it and haven’t even bothered with it, I’m now going to tell you that it’s more than likely not going to make it by the end of the year. But don’t worry, we got plenty of other temp content and more stuff to delete from the game so we can replace it with new content to distract you from this and hope you forget about it (like they have done with plenty of other things already).

Sorry but after all the mistrust, lies, deceit, disrespect, and the complete reverse of direction for the game, that they have spread around, I find it hard to believe that they are actually working on this.

This says it right here, why believe anything they say at all? They nerf so much crap and never post it, when we notice it they lie about it and say it wasn’t a nerf, what would we know we only play the game, and when we ask them questions they hardly ever give straight answers or just side step the question all together, no wonder players are so frustrated with Anet.

I see this whole thing making Precursors go up, thanks Anet, well done.

Are there any plans for new legendaries?

eisberg.2379:

Sleuth.7964:

Vayne.8563:

lethlora.1320:

freshly irritated with temporary content today, especially the amount of development that goes towards it vs. permanent features.

it’s really annoying reading up or seeing someone speak about content in old posts on the forums, only to find out it is no longer accessible—and gw2 has A LOT of this.

Way to necro a two month old thread, considering the last two major updates have had all permanent content.

1 new dungeon path with crappy rewards. Man you sure love taking crap from Anet. “YES ANET MORE MEDIOCRE CONTENT I LUV IT”

Quality is subjective.

Well is this all they intend to do for the rest of the year and maybe part or all of next? Revamp what we already have and add a path or 2 in the dungeons we already have and call it permanent content? Please Anet, weak.

At least there’s other games coming out to fall back on when this game continues on it’s path to oblivion.

Silas.8630:

Rama.6439:

Look Anet, if you are gonna nerf our income in WvW, then give us something else, we need something to make a living on there. You take it all from us and you will start to lose a lot of us, a lot of us only like WvW. But that doesn’t mean we don’t need gold.

First off, no one is making 50g an hour in Frostgorge unless they get really lucky, and it’s definitely not consistently that profitable, but that’s really irrelevant.

You’re completely missing the point. Anet doesn’t give a kitten about your drop rates if you’re not giving them money. The WvW community has shown very little interest in buying anything out of the gemshop and the only way they were making money off us was the constant server swapping shenanigans. It’s pretty clear that we’re all getting sick of that and lots were opting to grind the gold ingame anyway, refusing to pay for it with real money. Anet knows that probably won’t be a reliable source of income for much longer, with the upcoming leagues largely locking down server transfers for almost two months at a time, especially considering how many WvW guilds have outright quit or stated they’re only waiting around for ESO to come out next year.

The gemshop offerings such as finishers are likely Anet’s final attempt to turn the WvW game mode into a profitable portion of their business, and if it fails, there is literally no reason for them to continue supporting the game mode. The WvW servers cost a lot of money to operate and maintain, and the dev(s) responsible for WvW have salaries that need to be paid, which means that if WvW players don’t start buying things from the shop, Anet will do everything they can to drive us into a more profitable gametype, or at the very least out of the game altogether so we stop hogging server resources.

tl;dr you’re thinking like a player who wants loot, they’re thinking like a company that wants money.

The only reason I don’t play PvE anymore is it’s all to easy, they keep introducing this temp content every 2 weeks and 99% of it is a joke, collecting, dancing, smashing stuff, who wants to do that stuff except players that have no skill in the game in the first place, most servers don’t even do teq anymore, they should have learned from the karka queen that these things get old real fast.

If they want the WvW community to get involved with the rest of the game they should start adding in permanent content, new areas, new dungeons, and maybe make an open world pvp area, Orr would be good for this, this would also make GvG available, and they could add in some kind of point reward system for the GvG.

Of course all this matters not, they don’t care about us and we will probably all leave eventually, I also am waiting for ESO, and am waiting for EQN, just anything to be released to get away from Anet, don’t get why want to ruin it for us, so what we don’t waste money on gems for stupid fluff, put something on there we could use and maybe we would. But they never read our suggestions, they know what we want without looking…

Hexin.5603:

Chris.3290:

Rama.6439:

If you all are QQ about being outnumbered then you all are barking up the wrong tree. When I was on TC and we would get SoR, BG, or JQ, we loved it, we knew we were outnumbered, but we liked the fights, cause we always won, they might have won the ppt match, but we always won in open field, we would go up against 50-60 with just 30+ but we were organized, we used mumble, had good commanders, everyone was in chat and listened, even militia was in mumble and we all followed the tag, and we would always go for the open field fights, everytime, and we won almost everytime, so don’t sit here and cry about being outnumbered, numbers have absolutely nothing to do with it, a lot of people like to be the underdog, cause they know they can kick the bigger dogs kitten , even if they don’t win the over all fight.

Yeah, we can see it was so much fun on TC that you went to JQ.

i was thinking the same thing. And i’m on TC going hold thep hone here? You wha? tag line JQ huh?

Whatever. TC still the most enjoyable crowd out there. Not to say you other servers don’t rock, i just thoroughly enjoy the TC crowd, cool cats.

EDIT: I saw your post, come back.

Yeah, I bet you spend all your time in DR in the taverns looking for female asuras. >.>

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

Heavy Loot bag suck anyway, most of time they give the 7 copper craft material wich sucks plain. To get every 8 bags a t6 mat (26 silver, thus equal income as you would get by selling bags to TP), you need a lot of luck.

Loot is a problem in pve too tbh. T6 mats, drop almost nowhere anymore, but we need craploads of them. Now the stupid bloodlust pesters everyone. I got 9000+ Bloodlust going up daily a lot, i hope they soon, change this somehow.

Theres no problem with loot in PvE, they are always adding new crap, all the metas, temples, champ farms, dungeons, living story, what in PvE is there that don’t give loot?

If you are having trouble getting loot in PvE, you are playing the game wrong.

etrigan.4213:

Honestly devs should play more WvW period. They are seriously disconnected from what the community wants.

Ahh, no kitten, anyone notice the nerf to heavy loot bags?

Well I have noticed the decrease in drops, I have a decent increase in my MF% to, almost to 100% now and you would think that would mean more loot, not less, and the only rares I have been getting are from the champ bags from the WvW champs, and I get about 1 out of every 10, I know thats just rng and I’m not complaining about that, but if Anet is nerfing drops in WvW that is just plain wrong, we hardly make anything there as it is, the PvE crowd that farms champs all day and does metas all day and dungeon runs, that’s what needs the nerfing. I keep hearing about people making 50g an hour farming frostgorge, I’m lucky to make 3g an hour in WvW. I know what you are all gonna say, go farm frostgorge, no thanks, I hate PvE, it’s for the weak minded imo, I can’t do that champ farm for more then 5 mins, let alone hours.

Look Anet, if you are gonna nerf our income in WvW, then give us something else, we need something to make a living on there. You take it all from us and you will start to lose a lot of us, a lot of us only like WvW. But that doesn’t mean we don’t need gold.

I have noticed a decrease in the drop rate of Heavy loot bags in WvW, a lot of other people have to, this isn’t suprising as Anet doesn’t seem to like WvW that much, but why take away one of our only means of income? Anet continues to take away from WvW and continues to give to PvE. Why? What do we in WvW do that you seem to dislike us so much?

Can I get a an official answer here please, I want to know why Anet dislikes the WvW community so much they want us poor all the time.

Chris.3290:

Rama.6439:

If you all are QQ about being outnumbered then you all are barking up the wrong tree. When I was on TC and we would get SoR, BG, or JQ, we loved it, we knew we were outnumbered, but we liked the fights, cause we always won, they might have won the ppt match, but we always won in open field, we would go up against 50-60 with just 30+ but we were organized, we used mumble, had good commanders, everyone was in chat and listened, even militia was in mumble and we all followed the tag, and we would always go for the open field fights, everytime, and we won almost everytime, so don’t sit here and cry about being outnumbered, numbers have absolutely nothing to do with it, a lot of people like to be the underdog, cause they know they can kick the bigger dogs kitten , even if they don’t win the over all fight.

Yeah, we can see it was so much fun on TC that you went to JQ.

If you knew anything at all about me, you would know why I went to JQ, it’s on the TC website. So, since you know nothing, say nothing, thank you.

Next time, have a little knowledge before you speak.

Oh, it’s also been posted in these forums also. Educate yourself.

DAVYtm.7168:

My guess is:

1. SoR
2. JQ
3. BG
4. TC
5. FA
6. Maguuma

Handin.4032:

Excalibur.9748:

how many guilds did TC lose? Can you list them?

As far as I know, TC only list ZN (To get back with guilds they had played with a long time ago) and WvW (not sure of their reasons), and I believe both went to BG. TC did lose some individual players (not a lot) to JQ, but thats it.

We lost [WvW] to JQ as well.

You also lost most of RE, a bunch of CERN, and other mixed players, and they weren’t “bought” they just had their transfers payed for, we wanted to go there. I tried and tried to get TC to recruit, when guilds were moving and other servers were recruiting, I told TC that they needed to recruit, and they said it was not a good idea, that they could handle it, that the militia would step up, and the pve crowd would show up and help out, LMAO, well, look what happened, hope your pve militia shows up for our matchup.

ykyk.2740:

renmei.3102:

ykyk.2740:

You play on JQ dude. Everything you say is invalid.

Don’t ever insult me like that, kittening gross >.>

Nothing against JQ of course. That guy transfers to JQ and goes on about how those who stayed behind need to buck up and stop crying, LOL.

No, by all means, please, continue with the QQ… see ya on the field, I’m sure, well I’m sure I’ll be walking over ya at some point.

If you all are QQ about being outnumbered then you all are barking up the wrong tree. When I was on TC and we would get SoR, BG, or JQ, we loved it, we knew we were outnumbered, but we liked the fights, cause we always won, they might have won the ppt match, but we always won in open field, we would go up against 50-60 with just 30+ but we were organized, we used mumble, had good commanders, everyone was in chat and listened, even militia was in mumble and we all followed the tag, and we would always go for the open field fights, everytime, and we won almost everytime, so don’t sit here and cry about being outnumbered, numbers have absolutely nothing to do with it, a lot of people like to be the underdog, cause they know they can kick the bigger dogs kitten , even if they don’t win the over all fight.

I know a lot of people that took breaks from the game, came back, saw what they had missed and left for good, people that started and were introduced to the temp patches and didn’t like them and quit right then and there. It upsets me a lot because I spoke out against the Living Story idea from the beginning, I wanted expansions, new areas, new dungeons, Permanent New Content that they could really take time to test that could be added every 3-6 months, but this stuff that they put in is IMHO for the weak minded, for people that have no skills at all in any game, they want easy and fast rewards, and this is what they are getting.

CreativeAnarchy.6324:

Quick Mouse.7635:

ProVeN.8423:

They did, well… at least if you’re reading these forums accurately.

There is a sticky up here.

So people who don’t visit the forums or don’t visit the wvw subforum on a regular basis are out of the loop? How is that fair?

They still posted it in advance.

It isn’t their fault you choose not to use the forums. It is a great resource for changes to the game. Your problem for not reading them.

So they expect everyone to come here everyday and read every single new post everyday to make sure they aren’t missing anything? LAME!

They should just quit nerfing stuff, but they can’t, it’s all they seem to be good at…

Fuzzion.2504:

Tietus.8013:

This is what I don’t understand about the T1 servers recent recruitment drives for more people. You’ll spend 4-6 out of the 7 weeks in the league being bored kittenless. People really transfer for some poxy finisher??? Amazing!

Not really true. T1 and T2 can be fun. Its just that fighting a t3 server like SoS is utterly boring.

Also Mag stands to gain from potential recruitment drives if they get into the gold league.

Very true, most people in the lower tiers play for ppt, in the higher tiers we also play for ppt, but we also play mainly for the fights, the fights in T1 are just outstanding and running with an organized guild of 40-50+ in a BL is amazing, you can’t get that anywhere else accept in T1.

Like this week we have FA and SoS, we take it as a week to level alts and farm champs in EBG, like a vacation in WvW, boring for most, fun for some.

Alkyone.7983:

Fractal of the mist is -plain stupid-, but we have no choice if we want to get ascended items. There is no background story whatsoever to support or even remotely explain what the hell is that thing. The path are very poorly balanced with some taking forever while others are far easier.

That’s because you don’t stop, listen or even look around, try talking to the asura at the entrance. >.>

FotM is the best Permanent Content they have added to this game yet, and it was added almost a year ago, not to mention the open possibilities that there are for this place it’s just so amazing what they could do with this place, if you’re going in there and don’t realize that then sorry to say it, you have no imagination.