Guild Wars 2

20-30 in PVE is a very low FPS count for ur rig, ur video card is not great but it should pull a little more FPS in lower/med settings. Is that windows 7 64 bits?

im doing the same on my Razer mouse, i dont think is baneable, what would be the point to buy 100$ mouses and keyboards? Ppl do in on every MMO keyboard macros and stuff.

Rabbiddog.7690:

Alteris.1528:

I’m running a X4 955BE at 3.9GHz with 8GB of DDR3 1600MHz with an HD4890 1GB at 1680×1050 with nearly everything maxed minus shadows which are medium, and FXAA and Depth blur. I mostly see 45-50+ FPS less in big fights or places like LA then I see 40ish FPS, saying that …its AMD isn’t the case there are even ppl with high end Intel CPU’s with very high OCs 4.5GHz+ and GPUs that put mine to literal shame that are getting crippled when running GW2.

And to Pozmol, what is your GPU ? and is your X4 965BE OCed at all ?

Alteris, what kinda CPU cooling are you running? Looking to start OCing mine but need to get a decent cooler first. Got mine OC’d up to 3.8GHz (in testing) on stock cooler but then it started wigging out due to increased heat.

Im using a Coolermaster Hyper EVO on my 1090t@4ghz i have never seen it past 40c neither during a prime test, or playing BF3, playing GW2 it hardly gets to 34c. Ambient temp between 18-34c. It is pretty good cooler for 30bucks, it is better than my h80 watercooling system i got on my i7 setup. It was fun cuz i had the h80 hooked on the AMD board to begin with and i bought this little Coolermaster when i started overclocking the 2600k and i put the H80 on the intel, now after some testing i realized the phenom is coolest than ever i mean 40c during prime@4ghz is ridiculous, and actually the i7 watercooled gets kinda hot 75c@4.6ghz while rendering, i feel like i should switch them arround but im just lazy.

BTW PhenomIIx6 1090t@4ghz+Radeon HD6950 screens, Note im not using FXAA cuz i have SweetyFX shader pack running which include SMAA (Looks way better than FXAA tbh)
It drops well close to 30s when moving the camera but standing still, old phenom can still pull decent frames.
Last image is using the same graph settings Cbuzz was using just to prove that point.

ROFL noob GMs FTW! hahahaha Runes of magic is a free game, from Taiwan, not even close to an AAA title like GW2, so runes of magic is not a good to compare. Tera is good to compare, it is another AAA title using the same game engine. and yeah also looks pretty good, not as good as GW2 to be fair but very very sharp. and yeah Solar i played RIft for over a yeah it sucks big time. Also SWOTOR which sucks even more they used pretty cheap graphical engines research a little about that But GW2 use a proved succesfull (in another MMO) engine+this is not the first time this guys make a MMO, there was a GW1 right?

well i really didn’t designed the game but, u can try either repairing the game, or checking ur ram a disk are working ok

To repair the game go to the game icon on ur desktop, then right click/properties/shorctut tab. Go to target u will se smth like this “C:\Program Files\Guild Wars 2\Gw2.exe”
Add -repair to that u will endo up with a line looking like this “C:\Program Files\Guild Wars 2\Gw2.exe” -repair
then run the game using the icon

Give me ur full system specs please. It looks like a memory failure, but could be also a problem with a corrupted file.

Many MMOs including Tera which, also uses The Unreal Engine 3 don’t have any issue with 100 ppl on the screen, so i don’t think culling is such of an issue for modern gaming setups. Arenanet just added too much stuff into that old game engine too much dynamic lighting, physic’s, huge eviroments, the game looks awesome but the engine cannot handle those things efficiently specially without Dx11, that is about it, so to counter that u need absolutelly overkill systems to make the game run farily ok. Which is fun is the said the didn’t added Dx11 support, cuz that would exclude a lot of ppl from having some game content LOL good job on that The wrecked us all to make ppl with ancient dx9 and dx10 cards feel good.

Use a shader pack called SweetFX it will give u awesome AA+ a lot imporved shaders will make ur game look beatifull.

U can build a decent desktop for GW2 with 500$. Processor i3 3220 Cheap entry lvl Asus/intel motherboard, Radeon 7770 or NVIDIA GTX650, 2 4gb sticks of ram DDR3 1866, Entry lvl coolermaster case and 500w power supply. This sytem would run this game equal or better than a 3000$ laptop u can bet.

The main problem probably is the Havok physics engine they use, it is built in within the game engine, so 100 ppl on the screen, means thousands on clothing, hair and eviroment physical animations calculations for the CPU, performance it is expected to be awfull. They should have use NVIDIA physx (which also run on the GPU), ppl with AMD cards would not enjoy the feature, but hey, i don’t think anyone would care about that, personally i preffer good performance than silly physics and i think 90% ppl would have the same opinion right now. The second great issue is the game not supporting dx11, dx9 is poorly optimized for multithread rendering, full dx11 support would bump up performance in 15-20% atleast on mid-high end systems with good video cards and quad+ core CPUs, but to give us dx11 they would need to rewrite the whole game code (not gonna happen anytime soon).
Don’t get me wrong, the physics looks great, but probably systems will keep up with that kind of stuff comfortably in the 2015. But no dx11 support is almost insulting for a AAA title in 2012, first dx11 cards came out in 2009 for god sake stop making dx9 only titles pls.

Use razer synapse software for that, i have all my skills set on my razer mouse using that, works like a charm

How good is that FX 8320 in WvW tekno, i understand u clokced it to 8350 speeds, what board do u have? Did u set game afinity to 1 core per module? Sorry for all this questions but those chips look very intersting to me hehehe (even tho 8 cores are uselss for games, it is pretty awesome u know),so i wanted to ask

Game looks kitten awesome with this, thank u so much Best thing is, it makes 0 impact on performance, i tryed it with borderlands 2 aswell, the difference it is remarcable. Thank u so much for this

i had the same issue in one of my systems here is what u have to do:
1.Download GPU-z, MSI afterburner
2. run the game on max setting (no supersample no Vsinc) leave options on screen to check them and the FPS u are getting
3. GO to the heart of mist (PVP area) set the game to run widowed 1024*768
4. Run GPU-z(First tab “graphic card”) and afterburner let them run for 2 min, take a screenshot everything and post it here.

9100 is actually an integrated chip. Not just low end, this is not even a graphic card :P

Get an i3 3220, along with a good mobo, 2 4gb sticks of 1866 DDR3 ram, a Radeon hd7770, or a NVIDIA GTX650. ALL that should cost, less than 400$. If u can throw in aditional 300$, get an i5 2550k along with a NVIDIA GTX 660ti or a Radeon hd7870 (u probably will need a new PSU if u go with this tho). If u are on tight budget, go for the first option, cuz the game engine runs so poorly the 2nd option (even being a lot better) will give u 5-10 extra FPS only, 100% more money for 15-20% better frames

Overclock ur CPU, u can get a 30$ cooler CM hyper 212EVO and even at 4ghz ur CPU will never go over 45c, and reach this clock speeds very easy, Phenoms2 overcloking is kitten easy to do. Follow those instructions, if u don’t really know anything about OCing read some guides about first. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a7AxZJ7tWc&feature=plcp
But believe any CPU will have hard time playing this game. Save some money and wait for next gen CPUs, unless u are rich ofc, then but an i5 2550k or i7 2700k, along with a new high end mobo and overclock tha hell of those CPUs, but even doing that u will get very nasty FPS drops.

Cbuzz.5083:

Rampage.7145:

U wont get steady 60fps in LA with any CPU up to date,most likelly a non overcloked intel cpu will give u 30% more FPS. i would say overclock ur cpu to 4ghz and wait either for a fix or a new cpu generation, new socket and such.

Yes, you will. But you’ll need >4Ghz i7 to do it. This is with 1 x HD6970 @ 2560×1600. Even crowded LA it’s always >40fps.

No shadows no reflections lol even an i3 stock speed can do 40 FPS without those, besides ur FPS standing still is higher than moving arround. NO CPU will make 60 FPS stable in LA (decent graphics options enabled OFC u know game looks pretty bad without shaders and shadows), period. Save urself some money wait for Haswell CPUs and pray they overclock better than IVY.

U wont get steady 60fps in LA with any CPU up to date,most likelly a non overcloked intel cpu will give u 30% more FPS. i would say overclock ur cpu to 4ghz and wait either for a fix or a new cpu generation, new socket and such.

A intel CPU is 30% faster than Vishera CPUs, but vishera can clock a little higher. A Ivy bridge CPU at 4.4ghz will still be 20% faster than a vishera at 5ghz. To me is not a really important deffierence i mean 20% of 15FPS is 3 FPS… The thing is, the game engine wasn’t designed for such complex models and huge enviroments. No CPU up to date will give u a good experience in WvW saddly. And yes intel will give u overall a 30-20% faster frames but, they will suck anyway. I would recomend to overclock ur Buldozer as high as it can go and save the money.

Very weird i have 6 Sytems at home with all kind of video cards and CPUs and this never happened to me. Try dlownload directx again and .NetFramework4.0. After that use CCleaner to clean up trash from the registry.

Do not understimate the power of a dual core CPU in older game engines like Unreal engine 3. This engine is designed for dual core processors. GW2 run as good on a dual core procesor as on a 6 core clocked at the same speed. The pentium G620 is a sandy bridge family processor If u underclock a i7 2600k to g620 speeds (2.6ghz) u will get about the same performance on both, and yeah for a 60$ chip that is pretty impressive :P

It is not hard to believe. GW2 main thread run in 1 core all the other cores just sit and relax while waiting for core 1 to feed them. So yeah a dual core running at 5Ghz would eat a 32 core running at 4ghz
Now talking about this post, don’t waste ur money on a CF system with low end cards, it would probably work for other games but not for Gw2. This game is not graphically heavy, but it uses a lot of memory bandwith. So what u want is a stronger card sell ur 7770 and buy a 7870. Or just save urself money cuz ur 7770 can run this game as good as the 7870, the bottleneck is the CPU, if u buy a stronger card u will most likelly get the same FPS

and running the game?

it will run OK nothing fanzy about the grprahic card, it will run med/high probably withour many issues. The processor in the other hand, will run OK in PVE but i wouldn’t have high expectations for WvW, since it allready run awfull on 3000$ Rigs. I think is a good bang for the buck PC config, it will run OK, not great, but hey u will get 60% of the performance of a 3000$ system for 20% of the price. A smart call
If u can change the processor for an I3 3220 it would be much beter for 60$+ or something like that, u will apreciate a much stronger CPU for WvW believe me.

83c is a very high temp for such a low GPU usage, this chips suppurt up to 100c, even tho my HP laptop card with a 30% overclock never pass the 74c running BF3, pretty much CPU and GPU at 100% usage. That kinda worries me a bit, show me the CPU thing so we can move on testing

Benchmarks.. lol ok so, ur GPU is being cripled by ur CPU, did u chech the power options? Download HWmonitor and prime95, stress ur CPU and check the clock speeds, also check the clock speeds while running GW2. CPU have different speeds, called Pstates if ur CPU is running at the lower P state 800mhz task manager could still show u 60% usage cuz it shows u the ussage according to the P state ur CPU is running at. So u must be sure ur CPU is achieving it max P state while stressed. U must check if the clock speeds are correct. For a game like GW2 ur CPU cores should be running at full speed.
1. Download Prime95 and HW monitor
2. Same test run GW2 windowed, run HWmonitor and print screen to check out the clock speeds.
3. Run Prime95(there are 3 types of tests run the 2nd one this will also help us check the ram is running properly), start the torture test and do the same thing with HWmonitor to check the clock speeds, print screen.
Also, what i wanted to see in GPU-z was the first tab (graphic card), There is the important info about the card, the sensors u can get it from MSI afterburner hehe, So if u can pls show me that tab while running the game would be awesome.

To try detect where the problem might be do this:

1. Download and install MSI afterburner and GPU-z.
2. Run the game windowed mode 1024*768 res, standing on Lion’s arch, open the option menu /graphics, so we can see the graphic ootions u are running at and the FPS counter.
3. While still running the game on the background, run MSI afterburner and GPU-z wait for 1 or 2 min, check afterburner graphs, and take a screenshot with the 3 programs running at the same time and post it here.

Don’t listen to ppl saying ur laptop is at it’s peak, they probably don’t know anything about hardware and they are trying to show off their rigs (kiddos shouldn’t be allowed on forums :P). Ur laptop should be able to handle al least 20 FPS on cities and 40+ FPS on PVE arround 10 FPS during a extremlly massive WvW battle. So if uare not getting those numbers here is what u have to do.

1. Download and install MSI afterburner and GPU-z.
2. Run the game windowed mode 1024*768 res, standing on Lion’s arch, open the option menu /graphics, so we can see the graphic ootions u are running at and the FPS counter.
3. While still running the game on the background, run MSI afterburner and GPU-z wait for 1 or 2 min, check afterburner graphs, and take a screenshot with the 3 programs running at the same time and post it here.

Ppl overestimate intel CPUs, personally i own both platforms, i have a phenomIIx6@4ghz and a I7 2600k@4.5ghz both running paired with AMDs 7950s i can tell u difference in WvW is probably just arround 30%, when P2 gets 15 FPS intel gets arround 22, a huge improvment! Game engine just suck that is the only truth about GW2 performance. Nevertheless u should try check with GPU-z if ur PCI slot is running at x16, GW2 uses a lot bandwith. Try download MSI afterburner, and check Videocard graphs while running the game and post a screenshot here along with the CPUz main screen.

I had the same issue tuerned out was my PCI e port running at 2x instead 16×. Check it out with GPUz

Don’t listen to this guys, Nvidia Quadro and ATI fireGL are designed for autocad, maya 3ds max, and those kind of things. Nevertheless Ur Nvidia Quadro is Hardware identical to a gaming card, they only differ on drivers. It would be a awfull waste of money if u mode ur card to a gaming card. A 100$ card like GTX 650ti or a radeon HD 7770 will be more than enough to get decent performance on this game. And ur quadro is much more powerfull than those 2 cards. So u are probably suffering a driver related issue. Try use windows sistem restore to restore ur computer settings to a date before u noticed the frame rate sudenlly dropping. This wont touch ur files just windows configuration and registry.

Those 2 are media cards not gaming cards. They will run slow no matter what u do. Try check if ur PCI e Port is running at 16x, download GPUz and post a screenshot of it while running the game. U can also get a midrange gaming card, lets say a GTX 650ti or a radeon HD 7770/7750. Those will run this game just fine since is not very heavy on the GPU side and u have a strong CPU.

Gw2 is not heavy on GPU anything higher than that will be bottleneck by ur i3. My suggestion is to get an i5 2500k, aa Cooler master 212 Hyper EVO CPU cooler and Overclock the CPU as high as u can (close to 5ghz). I dont think there is a good reasson to switch ur GPU for GW2 since it is not graphically heavy and also run on Dx9.

If u dont believe me, do something go WvW, turn all the graphical setting to lowest, go into a heavy battle and see how many FPS u get. That will be the max FPS u will get with ur CPU paired with the fastest card on earth on Quad SLI or Crossfire.

Yes this is the first one, in CoE tho, u must turn off reflections and shadows. They abused of iluminating elements in that place so the poor and old Unreal Engine 3 struggle to render all that, it is just too much scene complexity for the engine to do it efficiently, and if u add to that things like Havok phisics engine u will have a CPU nightmare. It is not ur PC it is just lac of testing and poor software quality control, all on Anet side.
So yeah game looks very good but since is an ancient graphic engine it will have terrible preformance. Personally i would preffer the game look a little bit less impressive but at 50-100 FPS.
Thumbs up for GW2 on Frostbite2 engine (dreaming is free)

Problem is (in my case), when i run GW2, my PCI e slot runs only at 2x speed instead 16x (checked with GPUZ). I have no idea how to fix it tho. Here is a screen.
Usually i get 60+ FPS in that area, so yeah we want game fixes, no hallowen events pls. Test ur “patches” before release em. I can’t play since October 22, i understand the ppl who create the new content is not the same ppl who fix bugs, but in my opinion as a customer is insulting (to say the less) u realease new content without testing it.

Peace

The i7 2700k OC at 5ghz can’t run the game at 30 FPS (even with shadowns and reflections disabled) during a massive battle at eternal battleground castle, 25fps drops, it is still very playable tho, just not desireble. The 6 core i7 3930k is a bit slower core per core, so no chance to run this game properlly even with a 3000$ setup (game use 2 or 3 cores top). Just get ur new system it will kick kitten on every game u throw at it, but for GW2 u will need to wait until 2015 cuz to play it properlly u will need a processor 45% faster (clock per clock) than anything existing up to date. If u are buying a system specifically for gw2 i would recomend the i5 2500k (i7s won’t give u any noticeable performance increase on most games, also sandy bridge processors OC much better than IVY do, which is what u are aiming for here) OCed close to 5ghz, a noctua nh-d14 cooler or a coolermaster hyper212 EVO with 2 turbine 12mm fans. If u go for watercooling a h100 or higher cuz anthing below will perform under the 2 Air coolers i mentioned.

Also forget about a game engine fix, they would have to rewrite the game code completelly or a huge part of it which is not gonna happen. That is why they don’t say anything about performace issues. So it is what it is.

It will not run the game, even tho im a AMD fan, due terrible game engine desing only a overclocked i5 or i7 desktop procesor will run this game with acceptable frames +25 on WvW PVP. No laptop CPU will give u a complete game experience sadlly. If u are planning to run PVE or may be some 5man dungeons u can go with a similar system paired with a dedicated graphic card. But for PVP i wouldn’t recomend a laptop at all.

The big problem is the CPU, cuz the graphics are not really intense, i have a 6770m GDDR5 card on my laptop and it can run the game on medium/high setting at 50+ frames during PVE, but PVP it is just bad.

It is just a very bad optimized game engine tera for example use the same engine and it runs all the time at 50+ frames on my laptop.

So it it what it is, i don’t think game will get fixed, for that those guys would have to rewrite the game code (or at least a huge part of it), and don’t think that is gonna happen, so just wait until 2015 for powerfull enough CPUs

+1 im having the same issue. PC specs Phenom IIx6 1090t @4Ghz, 16 gigs ram, OCz Vertex 4, Radeon HD6950. All this running on a 890fx chipset board.

1. Log in
2. check for performance
3. log out

I mean seriouslly we don’t want halloween events, we don’t want new content, what players want is u to FIX the current content. Fix the performance issues in first place, it is unaceptable a 2012 MMO is programed with no CPU mutithread support, i mean pentium 4 was like 10 years ago. This is also a 60$ game, not a free chinesse MMO. Second, fix the WvWvW balance, there are a LOT good suggestions in this forum about that, so please if u guys on Arenanet are not gamers, (which is ok u don’t have to be gamers to desing a game) please read what real GAMERS says about that particular topic.

This is a game with a lot potential, but if u don’t listen to players it will be just another mediocre MMO, sad cuz there was allready a lot of those before GW2 came out.

Sorry about the harsh words but i just logged in and saw the halloween event invitation, and was almost insulting to me, just felt like i had something to say about.

I think changing the Orbs effect would inmprove the PVP experience. Simple as setting the orbs to give the stat boost only OUT of WvWvW world. Why is this? very simple Orbs would not overpower the higest population server which would be nice for PVP balance. Also having the orbs giving bonuses for the PVE world would encourage PVErs to Fight in WvWvW, may be they will feel they are fighting for something.

May be adding a personal rank system for WvWvW would help aswell.

I consider myself fan N*1 of WvWvW i love it, but fighting a way higher populated server and having also a -150 stats handicap is not really nice. Also makes ppl to just dont go WvWvW. My server right now have 5 ppl on this map. Is not nice and i think it will eventually kill low population servers PVP.