Guild Wars 2

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MaRko.3165:

I’d suggest checking this site out: http://www.techbargains.com/

Sometimes the major brands will have a laptop outfitted with a GTX660m or GTX670m with a fairly deep ($400+) discount. If your looking for true portability there are a few models which have 14-15" screens.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+14%22+Laptop+-+8GB+Memory+-+750GB+Hard+Drive+-+Black/7674066.p?id=1218858193065&skuId=7674066#tab=specifications

The i5 dual core processor will strugle in GW2 compared to the i7 cuad core, also the 14 inch display is not very good for gaming, but if u are looking for a small laptop i think this one would be a very nice choice.

Serophous.9085:

installed the beta for AMD, still no solution to my fps problem

Which is? This driver are not supposed to improve FPS, just fix the latency issue make games sutter on radeon cards, so ur FPS using this fix should be arround the same if not lower. If u are having FPS issues is most likelly a CPU problem cuz this game engine is terribly bad optimized so u will need a very very powerfull CPU to improve game performance.

Well for 239 i think that PC would be the best option, but i would highlly recomend to save 500$ to get a brand new modern system capable to properlly run GW2. That is the minimum budget u are aiming at if u really wanna play this game enjoyable.

U need to be at least at x8 (both cards) to bypass the bus bottleneck in GW2.

U must check it on windows use GPU-z

Probably ur PCI-e bus speed is going down to x4 when u activate craossfire which causes poor frame rate

It will run, at low setting and poor frame rate, but it will run yeah, how much are u paying for it?

No laptop will run this game in “ultra” without suttering, the game is just… bad, but actually no desktop will either, for a laptop u are looking for a 660m at least for high details, and an i7 processor, the fastests one u can afford. Don’t go Sony, Acer, check out for MSI, Asus, toshiba laptops u could find a good deal for GW2 for arround 1200$ 1500$ here are some examples:
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Computer-GT70-0ND-444US-17-3-Inch/dp/B009H8RG0S/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1359824374&sr=1-3&keywords=msi
http://www.amazon.com/Republic-Gamers-G75VW-AS71-17-3-Inch-Gaming/dp/B007MW73C2/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1359824374&sr=1-2&keywords=msi
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-X875-Q7380-17-3-Inch-Diamond-Textured-Aluminum/dp/B009D1UW2I/ref=sr_1_19?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1359824374&sr=1-19&keywords=msi
They will give u mobility, decent manufacturing quality, and good gaming performance overall, but good FPS alll the time, not gonna happen on a lapop, even desktops can’t so, lets say this laptops could give u 70% performance in GW2 of a top of the line desktops about the same price range.
I would go for the MSI ones the tbh since they have quality cooling solutions, and they are made for gaming, Asus and toshiba has good reputation tho, they made good quality laptops.

Also, u can just lvl up your chars there, farm money gold then turn it into gems so u can transfer, not suck a big deal 1000 gems are about 14gold. U don’t even need to pay real cash for the transfer (u could tho). It was your mistake they may or may not solve ur problem either would be ok. I think is kind of rude on ur part just say it is developer’s fault. For example if i delete a 1000g weapon by accident i cannot say it was arenanet fault by any means i just made a mistake period.
Server transfers are paid for a reasson, to keep some sort of server population balance on endgame PVP content aka WvWvW.

Try posting at the MAC section, since most of us here are PC users and we are not familiar with OS

Yeah at the drivers section on AMD site

Yeah, make sure u fill a formal bug report at the AMD drivers troubleshooting section, it would be pretty bad if the don’t fix when the drivers go live.

None of them works for some reasson (recording programs) i tryed them all with no luck i didn’t really wanted to roll back the drivers since they perform flawleslly :S

i had 12.11 before and recording worked just fine, cannot really tell u if 13.1 will work but i would say there is a 95% chance 13.1 drivers work properlly.

There isn’t a lot they can do at this point, the problem is their graphics engine, to fix it they would need to rewrite the game… not gonna happen, they can probably tweak some minor things here and there but overall performance won’t improve a whole lot anytime soon. Then engine lacks of propper cullling method so it renders a lot stuff u are not actually seeing, for example it remders water below the game maps causing reflections to have a tremendous impact in game performance, same with shadows, the engine calculate shadows form stuff u cannot see and that is a huge FPS hog aswell.

That is the problem. I allready submited a formal survey form explaining the issue to AMd support. Rollback drivers if u want to record untill they fix that. I also tryed every single screen capture sofware, none worked

What veideo drivers u have installed?

I would wait for the 700 series or get a 650TI/660 tbh 500 series is very outdate by now, they run hot, loud and use a lot more power than the new architecture, buying a high end 500 card is a very bad recomendation, for the same money u can get a 600 series or a radeon 7000 which would run faster cooler and consume less power. Allways getting the latests architecture is better.

I would recomend u to do re download the game. Since they did not included a decent repair/file structure check on the game launcher. I think it looks like a corrupted client problem.

In fact in 2 or 3 years when new consoles comes out and multithreaded games becomes mainstream FX processors will still run every game out there while i3s or low end i5 won’t so actually AMD is just way ahead of intel in the budget sector, in fact thanks to AMD u guys can actually buy gaming capable computers starting at 500$ Back in the 90s when AMD wasn’t arround a celeron chip alone cost 1000$, my first laptop PIII 800mhz CPU costed me over 5000$ so yeah AMD is probably the best thing ever happened to mainstream computer market.
AMD is allways the best bang for the buck u will get by far when buying a gaming or non gaming PC, they are highlly upgradeable 3/4 year old 790/890 series mobo still support latest FX CPUs, how many of u intel fanboys got to upgrade from ur old core2/1st gen i3/i5/i7 to ivy?
Anyway AMD offers more for the money, whoever don’t see that or don’t understand why ppl recomend AMD just shows infinite ignorance about computers.

The gt 520 is slower than AMD integrated graphics by, a lot, so i would say it would probably run GW at the minimum settings, but nothing enjoyable tbh, a 100$ card can run the game on high so i don’t see a good reasson to buy such a low end videocard, get a GTX 650 or a HD 7750 those are very cheap and will make justice to this game’s nice graphics. GT 610 is a very poor performing card aswell, so if u are like really tight on budget i don’t think a prebuilt system will fill ur gaming needs at the 500$ range.
I think for that money u could probabably build a AMD APU bassed system or put 100$ more and get a decent videocard.

The radeon can totally max out this game and is about 80% more powerfull than the 550ti using the never settle drivers. So it is a cheap but significant upgrade, in the other hand ur FPS looks kinda low to me i own a phemonII processor and at 4gz i get 40+ in the mystic forge area, only place in LA where FPS drops close to 30 is at the lion statue. So u might wanna check if ur processor is working fine, if u have all the updates from ur Mobo, etc, clean the whole interior of ur case, just make sure everything is working properlly. I have a intel i7 2600k aswell it runs very good more fluid gameplay overall but not a lot better tbh, i wouldn’t suggest to upgrade to intel for this game cuz, for example in a situaltion (playing with my brother in the same room both using radeon high end cards) where the phemon rig gets arround 15 FPS the intel gets 22 FPS so it is indeed better but not that much better to justify a full upgrade, intel does stays over 30 FPS most of the time which is nice. But it is not a 100% performance difference it is about 30%, pretty much if u get crappy FPS at some point in the game it is a fact a intel processor would get crappy FPS aswell, ppl who says “man i stay over 100FPS in LA all the time” are just lying.
Game performs, bad end of the story. Every processor will perform bad in GW2 untill they fix the culling. Game actually performs this bad cuz the engine renders everything instead only what u can see, this means, for example, it renders water and reflections under the world even when u are unside a dungeon for example, that is why reflections have a huge impact in performance.

This is totally truth, recomend this drivers 100% even while FPS will remain about the same, game will look much more fluid, also the FPS don’t noticeaable dip when turning the camera arround anymore, tested on my hd6950 and the hd7950 ghz edition, both with the same results, also tested skyrim, same results. loving this drivers so much.
All u have to do is download em from here http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/amd_catalyst_13_2_download.html
Uninstall ur Catalyst application profiles using add/remove programs, then install the drivers, they contain the new APP profiles for crosfire or single GPU built in.

Game like GW2 are CPU intensive, laptop CPUs run slower than desktop ones, cuz they have no spacee inside for apropiate cooling. GTA4, GW2, Sleeping dogs, Saints Row, even while ur videocard can max out all those games, they run slow cuz of the massive big areas, lots, of ppl, and stuff going on, it is just too heavy for the CPU to handle, even desktop CPUs have issues with those games.

Download GPUz and post a screen of the main tab, it could be a problem with the videocard.

Guaridian better for solo PVE/dungeons group WvW overall, thief excels in WvW roaming.

I still don’t know why ppl complain so much about the ranger damage tbh, condition wise i very decent it owns in sPVP/WvW, i never used a power/crt spec cuz i find my warrior much better at that, but the ranger is just fine, the fact direct damage is not the comparable to other classes don’t make ranger useless, actually ranger is one of the most versatile classes, along with elementalist and very strong in 1vs 1, if they give ranger more damage output they would have to nerf some other aspects which tbh i don’t know if would be good. I just love my ranger the way it is. In 1 vs 1 only a highly skilled GC thief can take me down particulary in WvW, in sPVP i actually i win 4/5 fights vs thiefs. Even while my warrior can crt for 25k in WvW using the rifle it pretty much depends on not being spoted, focused, it is imposible to roam with it, while on my cond ranger can roam take campments easy kill yaks, lonelly noobs, so much fun.
I also don’t see any OP classes atm, i mean some classes have sick burst, some other are unkillable, i think ranger stands right in between.

May be a temperature issue, i have a system with a similar processor it get arround 60s during PVE/sPVP and about 15 at the worst case scenario in WvW, most battles over 30 it is perfectly playable. check ur CPU temperatures while running the game also the clocks download HWinfo64, run the game along in windowed mode let it run for 5 min then post take screenshots of the HWinfo readings and post em here. A SSD won’t help u a bit whith this issue tho, i have one of the fastest on the market and the game runs perrty similar to a standard HDD, it makes the loading times at least 4x faster tho which is amazing, but the FPS are about the same

Nah cache latencies afftect only some apps + cache speed was highly improved with the new vishera line and the performance did not incresed a lot. The main issue is not processing enough instructions per cycle to catch up with intel CPUs which is beacuse of the intel compiler and the core architecture being less efficient those 2 combined just kills the single thread performance. That is why tested on some independent sofware AMD performs much better in some cases, cuz they don’t use intel compiler, notice in some games like ARMA2 extremlly CPU dependant the FX8350 destroys the intel i7s, even writen on a dx9 API some software just give instructions to the CPU in a more efficient way when the number of cores increse. Frostbite 2 engine also supports 4-8 cores all those EA games runs flawlessly on AMD CPUs even using the dx9.

Well yeah but if u are a borderlands or a batman fan u may want to play en with physx, they look much honestly, better particle effects and stuff. If u don’t care about that just stick to the radeon which is cheaper ofc.

junglewolf.3957:

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i was wrong sword 1 still roots

:( i want to use the sword so bad but auto atack is just so…. terrible :S well every class has unviable weapons i guess sword will still be the ranger one. I think may be thief is the best in this department every weapon combination can be deadly lol

Ranger rocks for PVP/WvW, it is bad at dungeons but hey, can’t be perfect. it is still not too bad tho, about 1/3 damge of a melee warrior, considering u have the safety of the range is not too bad, pets stupidity in dugeons is a problem tho. Ranged thief damage is worst and warrior ranged is hits only for about 30% over the ranger, u see big numbers as a warrior but warrior skills have long cast time. I think entangle think will be awesome for PVP using the trap 0/30/30/5/5 build can’t wait

The Bulldozer architecture is very innovative and it actually can potentially perform pretty well, the main problem is the use of the intel compiler by software developers since it is optimized for intel architecture, this means if AMD makes a huge architecture change (l.ike bulldozer) apps will run bad. Notice old phemonII performed only about 5%-10% slower than intel competitors, they were cheaper so, nothing to worry about, they shared a similar instruction set, a similar architecture overall. The main problem with bulldozer is they redesigned the core arrangement into modules with shared cache and integer (which is btw very clever) that is a massive architecture change leap and the software was just not ready for it, apps just don’t take advantage of this.
In terms of raw processing power there is no doubt the FX 8350 will win the i7 3770k any day, the problem is the applications are not optimized for them and don’t utilize their architecture at it full potential. In other words, put a FX 8350 on a console desing and develop games for it using all the processor resources and put the i7 3770 on a different console develop games optimized for intel; the AMD console would be faster then intel console any day.
Ppl who says intel is allways faster just show their ignorance, cuz performing better dosn’t allways mean faster, a dragster would lose against a F1 if the compete in Monza, put them to race on a straight line and who u think will be the winner?

Yeah the hd 7770 will run this game at high settings easy, u don’t really need more for GW2, and i think is the best bang for the buck right now, nevertheless the Gtx650ti preforms really well may be a little faster (nothing noticeable) but it offers physx which some games use, it is also a great bang for the buck card, 10-20$ expensive tho, so is up to u. If u play a game on a regular basis which uses physx i would go for the GTX. Personally i like radeons cards the most, i think image quality is overall better (very subjective), also the performance per $ is usually better.

It would be cool if so but, just not gonna happen if an i5 3570k cannot outperform a fx8350 at stock speeds by a huge margin, most likelly the non overclokeable poor dual core can’t outperform the Fx4300 at 4.9ghz dude. It is simple the i3 is not meant for gaming it is most likelly a office processor. And as i said in 2 years it will be as obsolete as first i3s are now game wise. Try run GW2 in an old i3 and do it on a cheap overclocked athlonII x3 or x4 and see which one performs better.
I mean the i3 3220 is a great CPU i have built systems using that and is very very fast, but feature wise intel just cripple their chips so much it is a shame.
I do agree the i3 could be a little bit faster for GW2 atm, but is not even noticeable tbh, the i3 is running at very high load compared to the FX, the game is maxing out both cores, but what would happen if the fix the game? (is very unlikelly they do it) What would happen if the next month some company release a great MMO optimized for 4 cores? The point is, the Fx4300 has more muscle than the i3 3220 in terms of raw processing potential+ it can be overclocked+a decent AMD mobo is at least 80$ cheaper than a compareble intel one.
There are just too many reassons why the Fx4300 is a better choice and just 1 reasson why the intel could be a good choice (GW2, cuz in other games the FX outperforms the i3).

Dude the GTX 460 should be able to run GW2 on high settings even the Gtx650 (still while being slower) should, if are experiencing low frame rate there must be some other issue with ur system like, most likelly a slow CPU, what are u full spces?

Indeed the whole map is full of bots camping the resources spawn location, they log in, gather, they log out, just like that to avoid report. A solution for this problem would be making this resource nodes spwn on ramdom locations intead all the time at the same spot.

FX processors are true cuad core processors… get the 4300 tho, it cost about the same and is way better CPU, it will outperform any i3 probably locked low end i5 aswell since FX can be overclocked to 5ghz, and saddly low end intels cannot be overclocked. U will have more money left to go for a decent videocard using AMD cuz, mobo and CPUs are cheaper, notice any AMD mobos are way cheaper then intels, and cheap intel Mobos are a joke since they don’t include any of the good stuff for budget products, so for gaming i think AMD offers a much better platform for low budget u will get more bang for the buck and better performance overall. Any mobo intels offer for lower than 120$ is a joke, same with the CPUs anything below 200$ is just not recomendable for gaming at all.
Remember something when first i3, i5, i7 came out some ppl on the budget got their i3s for gaming, 2 years later those i3s are totally worthless for gaming, u cannot upgrade to the new gen cuz intel change sockets every year so ppl who cannot play games like battlefield on those poor performing CPU have to buy a whole new mobo+CPU combo in order to play a game like battlefield3, in the other hand ppl who bought low budget athlon 2 CPUs can actually still play games cuz those were overclokable, true 3 or 4 core processors. So in 2 years when Dx11 games go mainstream actual i3s processors will be worthless, u won’t be able to cheap upgrade cuz intell will force u to buy a new mobo, while FX cuads will still play those games, and in case u need more cores u just go and buy a new gen CPU which will most likelly still work on the same motherboard.
So yeah for everybody who says intel is competitive at the budget u don’t know what u are talking about, and thanks to AMD and their wonderfull processors u guys can actually build gaming systems atm, cuz during early 90s intel CPUs cost over 3000$ due no competition, without AMD a entry lvl gaming rig would probably cost over 5000$. If u guys want to buy intel stuff it is allright i have a 2600k myself and is a wondefull CPU, just don’t recomend stuff u don’t know nothing about, recomending i3s or locked i5s is a total bullkitten they are useless for budget gaming compared to AMD, and that is not my opinion is a straight fact based on 20+ years of experience building computers and playing games on them.

FPS won´t a lot worst than they are now, if u have a good videocard just go for the 3D option since it is a GPU intensive feature not CPU. Low FPS spikes occurs due CPU bottlenecking , which means if u get a min of 30 FPS in LA, and a maximum of 120 looking at the sky, it dosen’t mean while using 3D u will get 15-60, it means u will get 30-60, min FPS will be about the same. All u need is to enable stereoscopic rendering is a Nvidia GPU (i’d say a 560ti or superior), a compatible monitor and the glasses.

The athlon should run the game just fine for PVE, i have seen laptop dual core arthons running the game just fine during PVE, there must be something wrong with ur hardware. The gtx 460 is a great card i would not upgrade it yet since new gen is comming soon. U should check if ur system is running properlly, temperatures, clean the interior of the case for dust and all that. The GTX460 can run this game at high setting at 60FPS i guarantee that.

I do agree Ranger is the best class i have 6 toons, necro, warrior, guardian, elemntalist, thief and my little asura ranger, over 2000+ hours played, most of them on my warrior tho, but i have to say, besides dungeons, the ranger excels on everything is by far the best for sPVP, tournaments, the necro is good aswll, and the guardian for bunkering but the ranger can do a little bit of everything properlly and that is why i love it, in WvW is probably the best, tied with the D/D ele, they have good mobility, survivavility, conditions, good CC. PVE is good for solo explore but is really not very good in dungeon compared with the guardian or the warrior, that is the major desing flaw of the game atm, they wanted to get rid of the holy trinity but the desingned the dungeons for holy trinity, swear i am still waiting for DPS/HPS metter hahaha… Anyway i like to see this kind of post, cuz everytime i see ppl whinning about rangers makes me wanna cry, they are the best class overall, by far, ofc they need some fixes a tweaks but what class does not?

In terms of general PVP situation
-melee ranger>melee warrior
-ranged ranger>ranged warrior
If u are looking for burst/raw damage ranger is not for u, if u are looking for a smart playstyle then go ranger, if u like to press 2 buttons and deal good damge go warrior.
http://es-es.twitch.tv/mentalrage/b/359780523
I think everyone who says ranger sucks cuz they deal poor damage should just reroll warrior
U see this game balances according to PVP/WvW, since ranger beats almost any class in 1 vs 1 allready it will be very unlikelly to get buffed anytime soon untill underpowerd classes like warriors or engi does. I also don’t think they will rework ranger mechanics cuz they works they way they want, few bugs yeah, but compared to engi is really nothing to complain about, most classes have bugged traits/skills still at this point.
-Rangers atm have at least 2 competitive tournament builds, warrior have 0
-Rangers atm have many WvW viable builds, tanky, damage, very versatile. Warriors have 2 or 3 damge focused, everytime i see a tank warrior in WvW/PVE makes me wanna cry.
-Warriors are unmatched on PVE in general since fights are easy all the way Rifle/GS -warrior deals 2x more damage than any ranger out there, this is the only aspect warriors are really good. Glass cannon warriors can solo several bosses on every dungeon, that is actually pretty epic lol. Even a Hybrid defensive warrior can deal more damaage than any Glass cannon ranger anytime.

That CPU is also kind of slow for GW2, if buy a new mobo get a new CPU aswell, depending on how much are u willing to pay there are several viable options for this game.

Ranger will win a warrior anytime no warrior buid can, OFC warrior can go full GC and 1 shoot u, but u would have to be very noob. I have both i have warrior anda ranger both fully geared and warrior just can’t roam 1 vs 1 most classes will beat him including ranger, a roamer ranger will just kill almost any class may be not a bunker build but most of the other roamers. If u ever get killed in 1 vs 1 fight by a warrior ranger is just no the class for u. Most of warrior signets are very bad, the shouts are uselss for PvP unless u go with a group… and banners, common, they are the most PVP uselss skill. Take a look at this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBv96A4jbIE
That guys would take any warrior down no matter what build the warrior is running, yeah they can hit hard, but is the only thing they can do right, if u can avoid their burst they are just another mob on the field.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir-Ggm92Q8U
That if u preffer bow
I do agree for PVE warrior is much better all the way tho, more damage and mobs are stupid and wont avoid the heavy damage skills, but WvW, sPVP any skilled ranger will kill any warrior out there.
I am not being bias towards the rnager here tho, i love my warrior and play it all the time even while is terrible for 1 vs 1 killing noobs with 25K killshoots is very very fun, But u have to be in group and make sure nobody targets u cuz if so u will be dead in 3 secs. So, if u like glass cannon stile sniper mode go warrior, but if u like to roam and try find 1vs1/1vs2 fights arround the world go ranger.

Rifle is better for damage now for suvavility ranger is the way to go, warrior lack of defensive skills, heals, boons and condition removal so, a ranger will win a warrior using rifle anytime on 1 vs 1

Hey u have 8gb of ram, make sure u have it intalled in dual channel mode on the right slots, a guy had a similar problem and he fixed i reseating thram on the right slots.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/tech/New-high-end-PC-Horrible-FPS/first#post1284946
Also check if ur mobo hast the lastest bios

Btw the hd 7970 is the fastest single GPU graphics card in the world it is a great buy overall will serve u well in any other games specially graphically intensive ones, but not the optimal choice for Gw2 since it poorlly optmized engine runs too heavy on the CPU, GW2 will just run like crap for many years untill CPU tecnology catch up. This is probably cuz Arenanet actually wanted to bring this game to consoles, so what we experience in GW2 are somewhat the same CPU bottleneck we have while playing games like GTA4.

The dual core phenomII at 4ghz will play the game just fine during PVE/sPVP, and not many of us are really into WvW tbh, so i wouldn’t recomend and CPU/mobo expensive upgrade unless he is really into WvW.

i Think as a warrior player, warriors don’t need gap closer or condition removal, what they need is some kind of mechanic making the invulnerable to criple/chill/imobilize, and a 25% speed buff as ranged classes and thief have. What makes warriors so bad is they just can’t do anything against ranged classes besides trying a frenzy/BR/100b combo cuz they are constantly under slow chill imobilize even an engi can kill a warrior farily easy, think only class warriors can deal with is melee thiefs.