No no problems at all, but if u plan to play in 3D u must stick to Nvidia (it is an Nvidia only feature), other than that AMD cards rock in GW2
The secre is a razer naga mouse and binding all ur utilities, heal and elite on the mouse so u can use keyboard just for the weapon skill, i find that way very fun to play Gw2 in fact i love the controls, they are more dynamic than most MMOs gives u a lot of action specially playing elementalist hehehe.
Hey delta did u properlly tested the memory performance in GW2??? does faster mem really help? i’m very intrested on what u said. I know is some games like skyrim and F1 memory speed and timing does boost performance quite a bit, but i didn’t knew about GW2
IMHO they should have just put macro’s into the game like most other top mmo’s have…..(hell alot of korean style ones have a macro system even…)
Indeed, most MMOs u can spam 1 button tho in GW2 that is not possible unless u want to u¡suck may be they just tought it was unnecessary. I remember playing my warrior in WoW and Rift was pretty much F1 button spamming 95% of the time lol.
U can also get a FX 8350 for that motherboard (u need to update bios to the lastest). Ur hd 6950 is allready more than enough to pull 100+ FPS on this game at the highest setting at 1080p.
So my recomendation would be selling ur 1100t on Ebay it should sell at 100$ at least, then buy the FX 8320 or FX8350. It is a very cheap upgrade and will probably give u good results for the money.
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Game will run like crap and have huge FPS drops if u don’t turn down shadows and reflections, overall is the only game option u can tweak that will reduce the load on the CPU, but fine if u don’t want to lower it, good luck with that
preferences are on a different folder located in “my documents” no need to worry about that at all
Loading times are high but still between normal range if u are not using a SSD, FPS are very low for ur system, most likelly u are facing a CPU problem. Make sure ur CPU is runnig at full clock speed and showing normal thermals, download CPUz and monitor the CPU performance while gaming using that tool.
Weird, considering the HD6570m is a very low en card compared to the 6870 on ur desktop. What kind of graphics settings are u running on both systems?
Moosie u are very wrong, the i7 920 ocd to 3.8ghz is a very strong CPU, and certanly way faster than that laptop CPU, if u have no idea how a CPU compare to another please avoid posting on this forums, u will only confuse ppl.
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-instal the game on the second PC (only the launcher), once it starts downloading the client. cancel the download and close the laucher.
-Copy the game folder from original PC, and just paste it replacing the game folder on the new PC.
-Start the launcher again, enjoy
They cannot ban ppl for using macros!!!! there is no way in hell they can know when u are using a macro and when u are not is simple as that, they may not like it but who cares? they can’t do anything about it either way, if u cannot beat them, join them! Is nobody’s fault but theirs the flaw game mechanics desing that allows macros to automate gameplay.
Example trebuchet fire WvW: Why do u think u can setup a macro to constant fire a target all day? Cuz the trebuchet mechanic is wrong, the only skill u need is precise timing ur shoots, perfect scenario for macro/bots. It is not logitech or razer’s fault, it is all on arenant since the desingned a repetitive mechanic that requires no player skill at all.
U can still get the fastest quadcore u find for socked 775 those quads arround 3ghz would give u a massive improvement over ur current performance with a relative low investment. That is what i would do, the GT 250 is fine until u have money for a full upgrade, it is a very capable card, it will serve u well, GW2 is a dx9 title anyways.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-2-Quad-Q6700-SLACQ-2-66-GHz-8M-1066-MHZ-Quad-Core-Processor-/321065728148?pt=CPUs&hash=item4ac1023894
Something like that with a bit of overclock
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U are comparing launch drivers, also the hd7770 is not the GHZ edition, is the standard one… AMD cards never perform well at lauch, their drivers sucks, they had a lot improvment in past few months in that matter, nevetheless it is 30$-50$ dollars cheaper consumes less power=less heat=more overclocking capabilities, overall better performance for the money. GCN cards wipe the floor with Nvidia 600 series performance wise.
Reflections to none, shadows to low/med, render sample to native. Enjoy. Don’t recomend game booster at all, u don’t need it cuz u have a 8 core CPU u can run 2 copies of GW2 at the same without any trouble, Gamebooster comes handly only when ur CPU is fully utilized which won’t be the case here by any means.
HD7770 is the cheapets one for sure. Great bang for the buck highly overclockable card.
The GHz edition of this card is way faster than a NVIDIA 650ti and 30$ cheap at least only 100$ great value for the money
This will be a very good matchup for ur current CPU, quiet low power consuption and blazing fast. It will max GW2 with no problems at all, ur CPU won’t even tax this card to the limits, so buying a more expensive and powerfull card would be a waste.
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Why did they licensed this then? looking to lose a lot money on customer suits?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPUHJejztUg
Everybody has this kind of stuff nowdays, deal with it. Get yourself one of u don’t have it allready. It is totally allowed, even if the do not comment on this, they get profit licensing this kind of tecnology anyways. So if u have it, use it is safe, if u don’t well go get one cuz playing with this gives u a really good advantage over nomal mouse/keyboard set. Also Nvidia surround/eyefinity that is totally allowed aswel despite it gives u advantage over users running a single monitor, it is the beauty of the PC gaming u buy expensive stuff u get benefits for it, otherwise u play consoles, users won’t hack easy or have any kind of hardware advantage.
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LF a dedicated WvW guild, daily raids, not looking for a zerg guild, the smaller/skilled the better. Absolute WvW dedicated, constant activity no PVE please don’t make me waate my time ,and money transfering to end up dissapointed with a PVE guild. If ur guild is not a true hardcore WvW guild don’t post here and make me waste my time.
I have 4 lvl 80 toons, lots of gear, multiple builds, willing to play any rol to fit properlly in the squad.
I don’t want to hear 10 ppl at the same time yelling on vent, i want to hear a leader giving orders/insulting ppl who is not folowing orders, i want to see players running specific builds, i want to see squad leaders with balls, not being afraid of enemy numbers, i want to see advanced strategies and team play.
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Nvidia runs GW2 perfect allready AMD had framerate latecy issues NVIDIA does not have this kind of problems on any title atm. In general i like NVIDIA a lot even when i have 4 years in a row buying AMD cards, i only have a 550ti as physx dedicated card. NVIDIA is just much much better in drivers AMD cards are fast i love how they perform but drivers are just very low quality stuff compared to NVIDIA, honestly AMD beta drivers are terrible to say less, try record some gameplay on GW2 using the beta 13.2 drivers and see what happens LOL.
NVIDIA drivers are on a different lvl of performance and stability compared to AMD, that is logical since they cards are slower and they sell much more than AMD, they have more money to dedicate to general customer support.
Radeon cards can give u headche sometimes due drivers but once drivers are stable they just perform so good u learn to love them.
-Radeon performs better in general for dollar. If u are looking performance for the money go Radeon all the way. Also Radeon hd 7970 is by far the fastest videocard on the market atm it is a freaking beast.
-Nvidia has much better support, the release drivers way faster and fix problems, in general much better support. Also physx which looks very nice for games that support that very nice eyecandy on batman games or H.A.W.K.E.N for example.
http://www.overclockers.com/micro-stutter-the-dark-secret-of-sli-and-crossfire/
either way microstutter is real, and as the wikipedia artical about it says, on amd cards, you can use radeon pro to pretty much totally fix it, theres no similar tool for nvidia anymore since nHancer died.
THAT CANNOT BE, MICROSTUTTER DOSEN’T EXIST!!!!! Nah may be all those ppl writing articles arround the web and ppl complaining in forums about experiencing microstutter on dual cards configs are all IGNORANT, such thing don’t even exist. In fact Nvidia and AMD will only produce dual GPU cards now, cuz this is all lie!
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A second GTX 680 would be overkill for GW2, it will be cool for crysis 3 or farcry 3 but for GW it will make no difference in low frame rate situations, sure looking to the sky u will see 400 FPS instead 250 using SLI, but in lions arch u will still see FPS as low as 30, SLI will make no difference in WvW, cities or heavy PVE events.
A single gtx 680 will give u very good frames in general at that res, even running triple monitors or 3D surround it will give u respectable performance. I would avoid SLI in general for games since it causes a lot of truobles, suttering, some games don’t scale properlly, it is more of a marketing thing, u know they made it possible in order to sell more videocards, but it really causes a lot of truoble sometimes. If u want really high end performance wait for the new tesla videocard, tho it is rumored to cost arround 1600$ so u probably want to save money :PThis statement is not true…if i disable SLI i have noticable lower FPS allround,and yes,LA included.SLI enabled it pops right back…Yes again..LA included.SLI has a MAJOR impact on performance if you have the cpu to back it up.
@Caedmon
The statement they made was not :“SLI will not make a difference in FPS for GW2”.
If I understand them correctly, their statement is:
“Since 680 is a high-end graphics card, there isn’t a CPU on the (consumer) market that will back it up. Therefore, adding an additional 680 in a SLI configuration will not benefit low-FPS scenarios like heavy WvW, big cities, etc. This doesn’t mean that a SLI configuration for lower-end graphics cards will not be beneficial to GW2”
That’s my interpretation.
Their statement ? I replyd to one person,unless he is schizo,wich i doubt…Anyways,i stick to what i say and here is what i Do Not agree with At All
“I would avoid SLI in general for games since it causes a lot of truobles, suttering, some games don’t scale properlly, it is more of a marketing thing, u know they made it possible in order to sell more videocards, but it really causes a lot of truoble sometimes. If u want really high end performance wait for the new tesla videocard, tho it is rumored to cost arround 1600$ so u probably want to save money :P”
This is just complete bullocks,i wont even go in details since im to lazy to bother,been using sli since around 2004 -2005..Never had a problem,and Always boosting my fps massively.Ignorant statement.
SLI does causes trouble and microsuttering, they tend to fix this kind of stuff over time but not allways end up scalling properlly and u most likelly have to wait for drivers fixes for specific games, stuff like that, SLI is problematic u need a decent knowleadge over hardware to deal with dual card cofiguration, it is not for everybody. U can check out Nvidia forums and see thousands of ppl complaining about this kind of stuff… oh wait no, they are all ignorant! A single card is ALLWAYS better than dual cards, i have run 3 SLI configs in the past and said it based on experience.
No black magic here. My rates do not drop in WvW.
But this is a tech support forum, not a kitten talking forum, so carry on gentlemen.
50.000$ if u prove it with a video. 100.00$ if u pay me to go to ur place and watch it live.
I think as long as u are not using them to go AFK and farm ORR they are ok, i use my Razer macros all the time to quickly use 2 skills pressing 1 button and stuff like that, i think that kind of stuff is out of question, besides, how could they possibly know players do this macros if it was forbidden anyway? I don’t think razer or logitech would sell this kind of MMO oriented keyboards if developers could ban their custormers for it do u?
Is would be ilegal to ban a user cuz he is using a faster videocard that allows him to perform better than some other user using integrated graphics? that would be just as stupid as try to ban someone for using a macro keyboard that allows him to perform better in PVP.
I mean this kind of posts (not yours, talking about ppl asking if is legal to use they gaming mouse/KB) are just useless and the answer is obvious, shouldn’t even exist.
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@the op, go with the 3570k it is more than enough for gaming and is quite abit faster than the FX8350 in GW2 in WvW and I would say looking at most of the Arma 2 benchmarks I can find it seemes to be faster so would guess it should be faster in DayZ aswell.
And as far as the GPU gose go for the 7850 you can pick them up for the same price as the 650ti and there quite abit faster.
@ Jazhara Knightmage.4389, Ok you called me a fanboi the other day just beacuase i disagreed with you? afew people have had bad experinces with heat on there Ivybridge CPU’s but for the most part people are perfectly happy with them and dont have any real probblems with temps or overclocking most will do around 4.5/4.6 on a good cooler yes I know that is lower than alot of Sandy’s will do but on avarage perfomance is roughly the same @4.6 compared to a sandy @4.8/4.9, And I addmitted the tim wasant the best aswell but even crap tim should be good for around 4 or 5 years.
If anything I would prafer an AMD CPU I reamber the good old days when the FX range where the best I had an FX57 in my PC and it compleatly owned all my freinds Pentium 4’s then I upgaded to a Opteron 185/FX60 later on, but the perfomance in lots of games just isant there with Bulldozer/Piledriver, yes I know they beat intel in the odd game like BF3 supports upto 6 threads ect, and lots more games you wouldant notice the differance unless you where benchmarking.
But there are still quite afew that you would like Shogun 2 when there are massive battles i.e thousands of troops on screen kicking the crap out of each other, WoW in 25 man boss fights some of them can be pretty CPU intensive, GW2, Starcraft 2 where even overclocked it strugles to keep up with an i5/i7 at stock.
And don’t get me wrong I am not saying Bulldozer/Piledriver are bad chips far from it in fact especially Piledriver but if your main thing is gaming then the i5/i7 are currently the best opption that might change over the next couple of years with the new consoles both being 8 core AMD CPU’s more games will be designed with mulltithreading in mind and I have no doubt that that the 8350 will be beating the Sandy/Ivy i5/i7 in alot more benchmarks, but by then both Intel and AMD will have new CPU’s out anyway.
The fact is my friend a fx 8350 is a lot more powerfull than any i5 and is cheaper, only reason intel performs better in some games is because they use ancient dual core designed game engines. With new consles going out soon featuring multicore desings, games will become more multithreaded whcih favors AMD cpus. Intel is fast in core performance but tecnology isn’t going that way anymore since pentium 4 died, only reasson intel still performs better in “modern games” is because they are desinged to be compatible with 7y old ancient console tecnology nothing more.
In any real modern game AMD CPUs would outperform intel at their price range. So recomending i5s over FX 8 core is only wise if u plan to play Dx9 games for the next few years.
I don’t call ppl who says i5s or i3s are better than FX series to be fanboys they are just ignorant. The fact is games will become more and more multithreaded in the future old dx9 titles will be in the past, in 2013/2014 with tons of titles using decent modern engines like Unreal engine 4, crytek engine 3, frostbyte 2 and 3, consoles game ports threaded for 8 cores, it would be just silly buy a 4 core CPU over a 8 core for the same price. FUTURE IS NOW!
U don’t really wana buy expensive CPUs for gaming, since next year 200$ CPU will outperform current 1000$, u just want to keep ur system up to date and AMD offers much more of that, offers upgradability and ultra cheap prices so u can constantly keep up with tech expending minimum amounts of money.
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DD21
biggest change i would make to teh above is get the kingwin from my other link, this system with 1 videocard and overclocked to 4.6ghz will need
min 384watt
recommended 434wattdual 7850’s will need
min 466watt
recommended 516wattand overclocking this build will be kitten easy, so easy a kitten could do it
IF u plan to overclock the FX 8350 is totally ovekill, the 8320 will offer exact same performance, also u will need at least 600w PSU for 1 card and 700/750w for 2 cards to have some decent headroom for futher case/upgrades and PSU over time degradation.
Set the textures to meduim, shadows to none, reflections to none shaders to medium, the rest of the setting u can probably play with a bit arround the recomended preset. There is not much u can do beside those i mentioned, the game just performs mediocre and most laptops lack of horsepower to handle it.
3000$-5000$ highlly overclocked desktop rigs with all the best u can buy will also drop to 20s FPS in WvW sometimes, the game engine performance is just terrible on current CPU tecnology.
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Unlikelly FX 8350 won’t give u enough horse power either, overclocked a 8350 will give only a 10% FPS boost if u are very lucky, resolution dosn’t really matter either 640×480 will be the same than 5000×1080 on a gtx 670. Honestly if low FPS is a problem to u, i’m afraid u picked the wrong game my friend, only thing u can really do to improve FPS is getting rid of reflections and shadows set to low, game will look bad but not as bad as planeside2 with no shadows LOL. Game engine is pretty bad optimized, they may improve it, but most likelly it is not gonna happen since has been literally no improvment at all since betas.
Thumbs down for Arenanet software engeniers!!!
Yeah it is not the fastests hadware but 5 min is just too much, i can run citadel of flame in 5 min lol
5 min loading time god lord u either have a very fragmented hard drive or just hell of a slow hardrive mate. I recomend a full defrag to start with and see if it gets better.
Also for ur system i would highlly recomend using iorbit’s Gamebooster as a must.
No no no is not the imput lag alone, is the rubberband effect u get when FPS drops bellow 60 which concerns me the most. It is complicated so i won’t explain it here but basically when u have vsync activated and ufr frame rate drops below from 59 ur videocar will continue rendering 58 FPS but the screen will show u only 35 this is a major dip in performance and slowmo effect also known ad rubberband effect which is totally sucks. May be u noticed this allready if u run fraps or something like that but FPS drops below 60 constantly on this game, just turning the stupid camera arround and FPS drops by 10 or so, this causes Vsync to degrade the whole gaming experience and makes the game performance look even worst than actually is.
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For 800$ u could be getting a FX 8320 and a powerfull Hd7870xt, CyberpowerPC sucks, my recomendation would be the next: find a friend who can help u build the system and build it yourself it is 2/3h of work tops, or just watch some video tutorials in youtube, read a little about it, it is not big deal.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DzB3
Better processor, videocard, mobo, power supply, overall WAY better system for the same price this is a respectable 800$ rig. This will play any game on the market at 60+FPS in high settings, u will be ablt to overclock the CPU up to 4.5ghz on that mobo with that power supply and that cooler will keep it under 45c no matter what.
So do yourself a favor and build it yourself please u won’t regret it and i will give u personal satisfaction, for same money this rig will smoke those u linked.
Note: since u use a pad to play i didn not add keyboard and mouse, but generic stuff will cost below 20$ and decent gaming class mouse keyboard arround 100$.
I could also make u an intel build for arround 75$+, i don’t think it worth it but it will certanlly play GW2 a bit better than AMD does, if that is a concern or for the same price cheaping out a little on the videocard and PSU which again don’t think is worth it.
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I remember few months ago when arenanet recomended to “enable Vsync” as performance wise recomendation it almost made me cry.
I could recomend to try core parking aswell and HT back on, it gives u better multitasking responsivness, no that u need to multitask but still, it is nice to justify purchasing an i7 over a way cheaper i5 LOL. I think the main problem of HT is windows being uncapable to recongnize the real cores over the virtual ones, this means windows is stupid enough to put 2 heavy threads on a single core instead dividing them into 2 cores. I think there are some hotfixes for this u should mail microsoft support.
Also if u are a PVP fan i would strongly recomend u to download “radeon PRO” it will allow u to cap ur FPS at 60 in a much more efficient way than Vsync does, using Vsync on 60hz screens will most likelly incresse the input latency between the keyboard/mouse and the monitor, this meas when u move ur mouse it will take more time to represent it on the screen while using vsync, it is also bad when FPS go down below 60 cuz it will represent 35 FPS on the screen even while ur videocard is pulling 58 FPS. Over all get radeon PRO, use the built in frame limiter and get rid of Vsync, it will improve A LOT the gaming performance, it also has some other very good tweaks, Radeon PRO is what catalys control center should be.
Overall Vsync is a bad deal unless u play with extremlly high FPS and u know they never go below 60 and even still will give u extra input lag.
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If you have another 600 dollars to burn, you might as well just skip another card and upgrade to a 2011 system. In GW2, CPU is more important than your GPU.
I think that is a bad idea since GW2 makes no use of extra cores, 2011 CPUs are slower clock per clock than the 3770k, which means, in GW2 the 3770k is the fastest CPU u can buy at the moment.
Wouldn’t the higher amounts of L3 cache be beneficial?
Yeah for cinema 4d or 3Ds Max, video editing higher cache and quad channel memory are the way to go but for games it will hardly be beneficial 3770k cache latencies ar very good and 8mb is plenety, i don’t think the extra cache could significantlly imporve performance on any game in the market atm, the i7 3820 (LGa 2011) losses to the 3770k in 9/10 bench and it has higher cache ammount, cool stuff like quad channel memory or support for Ivy-E CPUs are a plus for LGA 2011 but harddly benefits a gaming setup either at least not for GW2, may be for future gaming, but it is never wise to get top of the line gear as future proffing method. Since most likelly 2014’s 190$ CPU will perform better than actual 1000$ CPUs :P
The fact GW2 is a “CPU bounded” game harddly means it does propper use of current CPU tecnology, in fact it does terrible use CPU resources because of this a 200$ i5 2500k will perform just as good (or bad) as the 1000$ i7 3960x in this game.
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It is not hard dude, just watch a couple of tutorials in youtube, only thing u have to be carefull is grounding yourself to get rid of the static, it is also important not touching the motherboard or the videocard more than strictly neccesary, once u build ur first system u never go back to prebuilt hehehe, it is kinda fun and also a lot cheaper. Most cheap prebuilt systems uses low quality components, everything i linked for u is high quality and recomended not only by me but all over the internet u can check the reviews out if u want.
Also after building it yourself u can properlly clean it do regular mantaniance inside the case reapply thermal paste clean dust all that. I known so many ppl who gives me money to diagnose their hardware issues, ppl who complaian about the PC being slow or shutting down, 90% of the time occurs due dust or bad cooling i feel almost stealing their money lol.
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Well yeah if u plan to upgrade the CPU in the next 2 years, get the FX 6300 (six core) it is as fast as 8 core CPUs in games overclock as high and cost 130$ it is the best bang for the buck CPU on the market atm. I would only get the 8 core CPU if i wasn’t planning on upgrade to next gen, or if i do a lot video edit, 3d rendering (which is something i do) stuff like that, for gaming it is kind of overkill atm.
So basically get 8core if u plan to skip the next CPU gen, or the 6 core if u plan to upgrade to the new architecture when it comes out.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DxEG
It is actually 590$ build using the 6core CPU instead 8core.
If you have another 600 dollars to burn, you might as well just skip another card and upgrade to a 2011 system. In GW2, CPU is more important than your GPU.
I think that is a bad idea since GW2 makes no use of extra cores, 2011 CPUs are slower clock per clock than the 3770k, which means, in GW2 the 3770k is the fastest CPU u can buy at the moment.
For upgradability i think AMD wins, intel socked is dead this year while AMD will be using that socked for 1 or 2 generations still. I don’t think waiting for haswell will also be a good idea since is 4 months away and for what i read it won’t offer significant single thread performance imporvment over ivy or sandy. The huge leap on haswell will be on the GPU side not the CPU which is not very exciting for desktop gamers.
Games will be more multicore friendly in the near future since new gen consoles will be rocking 8core CPUs so i see AMd platform more future prof at this price point cuz intel offers less cores and no significant upgradability on 1155 socket.
In the other hand intel plays better ancient dual core, game engine based titles GW2 or skyrim about 30% more frames at same clock speeds, while it is on par with AMD on more advanced multicore engine, titles like Crisis 3 or BF3 are based on.
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Well i think u can sell it for arround 200/250$ asus makes quality stuff ppl like it, so even while being old i think u will find a buyer. I would definitelly try to sell it instead salvaging any part from it, cuz it would, most likelly cripple ur new build. For 600-700$ u can probably get smth like this, it won’t be fancy but it will be functional for modern gaming.
Intel
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Dx3s
AMD
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DxdF
So basically equivalent systems AMD is a bit cheaper, also offers 8 cores (which is kitten for the price), intel offers lower power consumption and overall better single thread performance, for games that is actually nice, GW2 for example. I’d say intel would be beter for only gaming system while AMD will be better for computing in general streaming, encoding, editing videos stuff like that, 8 core AMD offers more raw computing power while and intel offers single core efficience.
U are looking for a whole new build my friend, may be u can tell us ur actual specifications, video card, hardrive, PSU, u can probably salvage something in order to save some money. Also how much u are willing to pay in order to upgrade ur system, with all that information we will hopefully help u getting the best deal for the money.
It is a normal issue, it will harddly get solved untill developers start using dx11 and multithread rendering engines on their games, may be some day they will realize this is not kittening 2005 anymore… TBH every MMO i played which includes huge scale PVP battles had the same issue, so i’m kinda used to it, but honestly we have so much hardware potential atm and it is just sad developers still make software that would only run efficiently on pentium 4 CPUs @ 12ghz… I mean, 70% of the gaming population has dx11 capable cards, 70% have processors with 4+ cores stop making kittening dx9 games for single core CPUS!!!
Let me put it this way. In LA using a single GTX 680 u will get 30-160FPS, using 2 in SLI u won’t get 50-300, u will get 30-300, SLI will help u whenever the CPU is not taxed so the cards can stretch their legs, whenever u get into a CPU bounded situation (90% of the time in GW2) u won’t get a single extra frame using 2 cards than a single one, u can even get jerky, suttering screen due the CPU being unable to feed the 2 cards equally.
In a perfect world situation the CPU should be able to feed the cards so they render frames 1/1, this means if u are at 120 frames per second every card should be pulling 60, this is not the case in GW due the CPU limitations and the frame rate constantly going up and down the videocards won’t be able to render the frames evenly, this means if u are getting 60 FPS, one card may be pulling 40 and the other one 20, this causes microsuttering, and even while ur FPS counter might show u decent frame rate ur gaming experience will be just as bad as playing at 20 FPS.
So in conclusion dual GPU might be a good idea for GPU bounded games cuz u know for sure ur CPU will be able to feed the cards properlly, in CPU bounded games, it could be potentially a microsutter mess (depends on the drivers aswell), but overall u will just get higher maximum FPS while lowest FPS will be about the same.
It would be more beneficial to use the 500$ in cash to wipe ur kitten than buying a second gtx680 for Gw2 basically (and kinda sad aswell).
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A second GTX 680 would be overkill for GW2, it will be cool for crysis 3 or farcry 3 but for GW it will make no difference in low frame rate situations, sure looking to the sky u will see 400 FPS instead 250 using SLI, but in lions arch u will still see FPS as low as 30, SLI will make no difference in WvW, cities or heavy PVE events.
A single gtx 680 will give u very good frames in general at that res, even running triple monitors or 3D surround it will give u respectable performance. I would avoid SLI in general for games since it causes a lot of truobles, suttering, some games don’t scale properlly, it is more of a marketing thing, u know they made it possible in order to sell more videocards, but it really causes a lot of truoble sometimes. If u want really high end performance wait for the new tesla videocard, tho it is rumored to cost arround 1600$ so u probably want to save money :P
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I also want to say dont tell asus but i removed all of the oem heatsinks and changed the thermal paste putty crap ( cleaned with acetone and a piece of small plastic to scrape old crap off )on them oem and swapped it out with good thermal paste on sb / nb and also the vrm’s arctic cooling mx-4 i had and the temps are very nice if i dont say so myself now temps on all areas dropped 5c-8c which is a huge drop in temps so the crap they use is total garbage. I also noticed the heatsinks were not making proper even contact before i did so.
That is the best thing u can posibbly do for a motherboard or Videocard, i recomend to do this oce per year to your mobo/CPU/GPU. Sometimes i tell ppl how cool my hardwere runs and nobody believe me, that is one of the main reassons for it hehehe.
Soon as you go with SLI or Crossfire AMD cpu bottlenecks your Gfx cards.
Link http://www.overclock.net/t/1352970/toms-hardware-fx-vs-core-i7-exploring-cpu-bottlenecks-and-amd-crossfire
There are more websites that shows the Intel sureriour compared to Amd on SLI/Crossfire. And no i am not a fanboy since my latest intel cpu was a pentium2 350mhz.
Most likelly if u run SLI/Crossfire on high en cards u play on triple monitors or 3D surround AMD CPU won’t bottleneck unless u are stupid enough to buy 1000$ videocards and play at 1080p. So as far as SLI/Crossfire AMD will hardly bottleneck u worst than single card confing unless u are kitten
U see solar the thing is, 99% don’t build a PC thinking about a single game, if i had to build a PC for a specific game i just would not play it, other than that AMD offers much more bang for the buck than intel does, AMD mobos are awesome+ u can get the 8350+990fx mobo for the same price or even less than a 3770k CPU alone, u could say a i5 cost very similar to a FX8350 but that isn’t true either cuz intel mobo are much more expensive so u will end up wasting 100$+ dollars going the i5 way when tbh other than single thread performace the AMD chips offers a lot more raw processing power.
Yeah it is true Ivy processors are 30% faster in single thread performance but they offer 50% of the cores, so for general computing, mutithread apps, multitasking in general, workstation usage the 8 core chip will destroy any i5.
Tbh AMD is in general way better than intel in performance per dollar, i allways had AMD systems at home since early 2000s my last one was a phenomII 1090t i do still have it, it costed me 200$ back in the day arround the same price of a first gen i5, honestlly right now that CPU will smoke any first gen i5 arround on any kind of app, multi or single thread it is a great overclocker i think it is the best CPU i’ve ever owned.
Currently i have a newer i7 2600k it is a great CPU i love it, but it is expensive, i was hyped by the reviews and got it but honestly watching it run any game side by side with my old system and it is about the same (AMD 15FPS, intel 20FPS)… ppl just hype so much by reviews when honestly the diference in performance in terms of real world usage is just close to 0.
So in conclusion Intel is good in single thread, but does that justify paying a lot more? hell no, cuz if the performance gains were 100% then and only then it would justify a 100% higher price is as simple as that for many ppl.
No matter what kind of spec u buy ur FPS will drop while recording, specially in i5s, also in WvW ur FPS will go all the way down to 20s in major fights no matter what processor u buy (yes even a 1000$ CPU). So u have to be realistic before buying something, GW2 will just perform bad, personally i can play a 3rd person RPG game at 20 FPS during a major fight and still consider it enjoyable but some ppl just don’t, if u are one of those ppls then consider finding a different game.
Dunno what you’re running, but I’ve never dropped under 100fps. Even while recording…
i7 2600k 5ghz recording in WvW frames drop, guaranteed, as a person who plays WvW only in GW2 i can guarantee no matter what CPU u have FPS will drop in WvW during heavy fights, close to teens.
If u never droped from 100 FPS i dare u to make a video a post in on youtube, go to stonemist castle during a fight start frapsing if u get 100 FPS constantly (not watching to the sky ofc xD) i’ll give you 20.000$
No matter what kind of spec u buy ur FPS will drop while recording, specially in i5s, also in WvW ur FPS will go all the way down to 20s in major fights no matter what processor u buy (yes even a 1000$ CPU). So u have to be realistic before buying something, GW2 will just perform bad, personally i can play a 3rd person RPG game at 20 FPS during a major fight and still consider it enjoyable but some ppl just don’t, if u are one of those ppls then consider finding a different game.
I would say for 150$ get a Nvidia 650TI it gives u very good bang for the buck in terms of performance and drivers support. U can get a cheapper 7770 for 120$ it is a decent card but drivers are not so great and is overall slower than the 650TI, but for GW2 the 7770 is just fine.
The hd 7750 is not a very good choice for gaming i would only buy if ur power supply is generic and under 450W , otherwise the 7770 will give u more performace per dollar.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202011