Guild Wars 2

It looks kind of generic, but the animation is cool. I’d probably like its look more with a different dye job.

How are you guys missing Marjory’s rather obvious motivations? She practically spells it out for us.

She’s a necromancer and she’s talking to a guy who has literally been resurrected. If it can happen to him, maybe she can learn how to get her sister back.

I love the map. It lives up to its name and makes exploring a lot more fun. Getting lost in the depths is a very real possibility until you’ve spent a good amount of time in the map. It’s easily my favourite map to explore that they’ve ever released.

I fell in twice, but was rescued by a nearby Mesmer the second time. Feels like a huge middle finger considering how close it is to the end.

Kind of depends where you left off.

However, if you’re buying HoT, I’d start with that. If not, check out Dry Top and the Silverwastes.

tomlin.8204:

lol.

My point about buying gems is a counter to the “Anet needs to make money on their game to keep it going” argument. It makes sense to me. I hate to talk about money and how much I’ve spent, but I’ve spent quite a lot here, more than enough to cover a lifetime of expansions. I know, it doesn’t work like that. Buying gems was optional, my own doing. Do I sound self-entitled? Probably. I don’t care, like I said I have no problem paying for my entertainment if I choose to do so and yes “no one is forcing me” blah blah but it’s forced in the fact that if I want to continue playing this game I do “have” to pay the full price again. Or I can not pay and be locked out of new content.

Yes, I kind of do think I deserve HoT for “free”
I mean not really, no one deserves anything for free. But it does seem a little backward that people who financially support the game a lot less than I do (did), get more content than I do.

“I really do take issue with this idea that you think you’re having to pay for the game twice. "

I am having to pay for it twice. It’s the full price of a game, an unexpected full-whack fee. It’s nothing at all to do with the fact that the core game is included in the package, I have no issue with that whatsoever. The point is that I have to pay full price for an update after paying so much already, after buying into the “buy once” advertising at release.

But anyway your typical wishy-washy RP defense and bizarre, nonsensical arguments about waiting 3 years for a free game is a bit off-topic, as I asked what content is available to such a whining, self entitled cheapskate such as myself.

I don’t think you understand what buy once means…. You bought it and you still have access to all of that content. More actually. Nothing has made you unable to keep playing that. Buy once does not mean: buy one thing from a company and automatically get everything they ever make afterwards for free. For example, if I wanted to have a bag of Lays chips. I would go and buy them once. I don’t have to pay an extra fee if I decide to enjoy them over multiple days. However, having bought that one bag of chips, I am not suddenly entitled to every other bag Lays makes from then on. It might be a tough concept to understand, so I’ll happily provide you with more examples if you’d like. We wouldn’t want you demanding all of the cars at a dealership after buying just one. That’d cause quite a ruckus.

And again, you buying gems isn’t a charity. You are buying a product, not simply giving away money. Please explain how my argument about games being less valuable over time doesn’t make sense. That is in relation to the complaint about the base game now being free when you paid for it many years ago. It’s not unrelated, it’s even more to do with your odd sense of entitlement. I know you didn’t mention it, but your arguments always seem to fall in the same camp as the people who are salty about the base game mostly going F2P. My apologies if that doesn’t actually bother you. I’d just be kind of shocked about that given your position on the expansion. Finally, your last paragraph reads like a typical “lalala, I can’t hear you” response given your random claims without bothering to give them any merit.

Onto your actual question. There’s not really anything new for you besides one fractal and a new PvP map. If I were in your shoes and unwilling to pay for the expansion, I know that wouldn’t be enough for me to come back, so farewell I suppose.

tomlin.8204:

CMM.6712:

No, it isn’t worth it for you.

Yeah, seems that way. Shame.

I’m kinda salty that I put so much money into this game when I had a lot more disposable income/less responsibilities, only to be forced to pay for it again at a later date. Hate to sound self-entitled about it – I definitely believe in paying for entertainment but I was under the impression this game was buy to play, which I already did. And tbh I’m just looking for something to do when I’m bored, not an actual gaming investment. The game lost most of its spark for me in the first year, though I did enjoy the clockwork invasion things a while back.

You’re not paying for it again…. you’re paying for an expansion. If you seriously think you deserve an entire expansion and all of the LW stuff years after the initial release because you spend 60 dollars on the game back when it was worth that much (news flash: games depreciate over time just like anything else), then I’m at a loss as to what to tell you. Anyway, whether or not the expansion is worth it is up to you. If you’d asked me a month after the HoT launch, I would have said no. Now that we’re getting consistent, quality LW updates though, I’d personally say it is.

Also, I don’t understand the mindset of people acting like buying gems is some kind of charity. You’re getting stuff with those gems… I don’t buy them because I’d rather earn stuff in game than just pay money for it. For me, that defeats the purpose of playing (setting goals for myself and then going about achieving them in my own way).

You would loath all of my characters:

Hammerhead Chark
Tictactaco
Taco Man Cometh
Salad Man Can
Pierce Hawthnorn
A Mesmer Named Gob

After maining Revenant since HoT, I’ve finally come back to Warrior and I have to say, greatsword feels like an old friend. Everything about it is great. The animations are excellent (I’ll never get tired of seeing my Asura flip around in 100 Blades), it has great damage, every skill is actually useful, and it has excellent mobility.

PvP is a different story, but I haven’t touched that mode for a couple seasons now.

If you’re doing a lot of RP and not caring about being optimal for raids, play whatever you want. If you like staff a lot, play staff.

Personally, I don’t like staff because it looks like my Charr is performing some kind of wimpy slap-shot.

I don’t know if anyone here is familiar with The Malazan Book of the Fallen, but in that series, there is a rather infamous great sword which when fully unveiled, is like looking into pure darkness. It also has smoky chains spilling out of it, representing the eternal of all the souls chained inside it.

Stealth gliding doesn’t seem to matter because by the time you’ve used it, they’ve already thrown like two more rocks at you. It’s sad because it’s the first time I’ve genuinely thought it could be very useful, but it’s really only good for sneaking past before they aggro to you. I don’t think the rocks should home in once you stealth.

I find that you should just kill them from above before they get a chance to do much damage. Just carpet bomb them with the number 2 skill. You should be able to kill them much faster than they can kill you.

Maybe it’s because I had such low expectations, but I’m pretty happy with the amount of content in this release. I honestly thought they wouldn’t add another map until the next expansion.

I don’t know what to tell you. I got through it quite easily on my Revenant. I only died once and that was because I was trying to collide with her rather than get the stream over her.

Just ignore the adds or kill some really quick and focus on the Justicar. Your allies are actually somewhat competent in this instance.

I’ve already ranted about my dislike for the story… many times. Suffice to say, it fell way short of what I’d expect from an RPG. Having said that, since LS3 is coming out tomorrow, I’ve decided to be more positive.

Here’s what HoT’s story did well:
-Canach. I found myself invested in his struggle to maintain control and genuinely cared about what happened to him. There are very few characters who I can honestly say that about from even the base game.
-The Commander actually seemed to be commanding!
-The boss fight against the mind of Mordremoth (at least, when it actually worked).
-The actual idea that Mordremoth couldn’t be physically defeated since he essentially IS the jungle (somehow going into his mind and defeating the Elder Dragon of MIND with your own MIND is magnificently ridiculous, but I’m supposed to be being positive so forget about that).
-A bit of the stuff with the Itzel and Nuhoch.

Those are the things I liked about the story.

I’d say HoT is worth about 30 dollars, so yes, give it a go. The story is bad, but the 4 maps are pretty great. Just don’t grind the metas over and over ir you’ll become extremely jaded towards them like me.

The only thing that frightens me about HoT is the precedent it sets for future expansions of charging too much for too little.

You will be at a disadvantage, but not to the point where I’d recommend buying the expansion at full price. There’s simply not enough there to justify the price of almost a full game. Wait for a decent sale and then buy it.

While it didn’t ruin the game, it somewhat ruined my opinion of Anet. Their April update was all fine and dandy, but it didn’t address my core issue with the expansion: that it had very little content for the price they were asking.

-Pathetically short story
-Few maps
-Repetitive content

If mastery gating wasn’t a thing, you’d be able to see everything the expansion has to offer in about 10 hours (minus raids). For something that costs almost has much as a new game, that’s simply unacceptable. I will be installing the game again at the end of the summer when LW3 hopefully finally comes out. I’ll make my mind up from there if I’ll ever buy another expansion.

azizul.8469:

that was how they did it initially, then people cry they want expansion, so Anet gave them expansion, but now they want the Living Story back ? lol Anet can never satisfy their customers, can they ?

Maybe because people realized that HoT was pretty kitten tiny for an expansion, so they decided they prefer Anet’s previous method of content delivery.

Se we’re going to have almost an entire year from HoT launch to LW3. On the bright side, I don’t need to have the game taking up space on my SSD as I wait for the new season to release. Now that I know it’s not until the end of the summer, I can free up the space now and reinstall it later.

Amineo.8951:

They are making content to force people into login in the game rather than experiencing it, simple as that.

Speak for yourself. I haven’t logged in in months. I finished my Bolt a while back and thought “now what?” I realized there wasn’t anything new to do besides the same tired content, so I simply stopped playing. I’m sure I’ll log in again when Living World Season 3 finally comes out, but for now, I’m realizing the great benefit of this not being a subscription game.

Nothing to do? Play something else.

Unrelenting pressure! I know, right? Just the other day, I was doing the Auric Basin meta when suddenly, I was kicked out of the map and FORCED to do the Not So Secret jumping puzzle. Nobody on the map could do it, so we couldn’t get back to Tarir in time to save it. Mordremoth then showed up on my game over screen and said “guess you should have jumped better, Mario! Princess Peach is now forever in my castle!”

C’mon Anet, stop pressuring me to do JPs.

I almost want them to charge us again for legendary weapons if only to see the beautiful rage it would cause.

What I want:
At least 8 maps. Half of them can be meta event maps like HoT, but the others should be more based around single events and promote exploration by having having a lower density of enemies (something in line with how the current Orr maps are would be nice IMO).

A story that takes longer than 5 hours to complete and isn’t nonsensical.

Build upon the existing systems. Please don’t add a bunch of new things. I know they say HoT is providing the building blocks for future expansions, but I given their track record of making new things and then abandoning them, I won’t believe this until I see it.

If they do continue with the mastery system (and I really hope they do since it has a lot of potential), don’t just use it to gate off content and impede exploration. You said you didn’t want to increase the level cap, but that’s essentially what this is only you put the new skills and stats into the Elite Specs.

Way more armor sets.

As far as mechanical difficulty of the various enemies, I think HoT did a great job. Keep it there.

New Fractals and dungeons.

More elite specs, but please don’t make them direct upgrades to the others.

I think his persona is kind of funny. Reminds me of a more kitteny Reynad. Best of luck to him in whatever he does.

Omega Zoa.3859:

Ozzrel.9825:

Rev, but neither are dps gods and they aren’t brought for their dps. If you want to do big dps, play ele.

Gross, always play heavy armor.

In that case, I believe Dragon Hunter might beat out the other 2 in terms of pure DPS. I could be wrong though.

Were you afk? You’re leveled down, but you’re still waaay stronger than anyone who’s actually at that level… When I’m in low level zones, I don’t even pay attention because everything dies with almost no effort. I guess if you’re doing a world boss, you could get killed, but that’s hardly the same as dying to some random mob.

I’m sorry to say, but the only reasons I can think of is that you’re trying to make an issue out of nothing, or that you’re really, REALLY bad.

There’s no new content. If you left, like me, because you were tired of waiting for LS3, there’s very little for you here. I decided to come back and give fractals another go. After 4 months away, they are fun to go back to. Cliffside is so much better now.

slashlizardy.9167:

On this we will disagree red, when I am in the map, I wanna be free to chill out with friends on TS, and to pay more attention to chat that any loose npcs. Especially 2 vets parked right at the spot I need to be in order to jump to a mastery that is prolly gonna kill me anyways. In beta the masteries were alot easier to find and get to.

Seriously? I found the beta way harder…. I can solo almost every mastery now (curse you Balthazar!) and part of the fun of the maps IMO is that they are so complex. Finding your way around at first really feels like you’re in a wild jungle. I really think that the open world maps and enemies are what the devs nailed in HoT. I just wish there were double the amount and that they weren’t quite so meta centric.

If you’re looking to not have to focus and just talk to your friends, why not just do the world boss train, or do events on random core Tyria maps? HoT was marketed as being harder, so it bugs me when people act like the difficulty is some rude surprise. It sounds like you’d be better sorted to play the core maps most of the time and then head into HoT maps when you want more of a challenge.

Congrats, but know that part of me despises you. I’ve only finally crafted Zap. The journey was fun though.

Zelda.6325:

RedDeadFred.1256:

How about an exchange. Hot fix this, but give me back the 0 cd Phase Traversal (I really miss zooming around open world with that).

exchange for bug fix

seems legit

Well obviously it won’t happen. The nerf didn’t make sense though (from a class design perspective). I just with they’d split it and only added the cd to PvP and WvW. Having something that let you traverse the world slightly faster than thief wasn’t hurting anyone in PvE. You never use it in actual fights since your energy goes to your upkeep skills, sword 2, and sometimes ccs.

Ophidia Moonstone.2587:

I left my first guild because they had a 100% repping requirement and I won’t join another guild that has a repping requirement. On the one hand, maybe doing away with it would create a situation where people like me could try out new guilds without repping pressure. On the other hand, I kinda like knowing which guilds will want to control me and my game play to the extent that they would demand 100% loyalty all the time to that one group. I think this is especially important for new players that haven’t experienced different kinds of guilds to be able to do so without all that pressure from guild leaders. New players do not have a lot of experience to know what’s out there

It’s amazing how many guild require 100% repping despite it not actually doing much of anything for them. If a guild require 100% rep, imo, it just comes down to ego, and I’m not going to waste my time inflating it.

It’s not even that I’m strictly opposed to the idea, I’d just much rather the devs be working on the current systems and S3 than starting yet another new feature.

dominik.9721:

BurrTheKing.8571:

dominik.9721:

Furajir.3815:

Let’s play a game. Which skills are passive and which ones are active.

Ready kiddos?

Natural Vigor: 20% Endurance Regeneration

vs.

Thick Skin: Bonus toughness above hp threshold

vs.

Adrenal Health: Hitting an enemy with F1 in order to activate a regen effect.

Take your time. I know it’s hard.

They are all passive imo.
EVERYONE also considered the scrapper heal-trait passive allthough you had to do actively something for it. Just accept that there are people with different opinions.

Take your time. I know it’s hard to read before typing full of anger.

You don’t get to change the definition of a word just because you don’t agree with the actual one.

Again, how would you give War better sustain via traits without tying it to Bursts?

I don’t really care about any definition you may have found on wiki or somewhere else. I just replied to you because imo this trait is as passive as other traits that are considered passive by the big crowd.

That’s all well and good, but opinions can be wrong. Just because you state something is an opinion, it doesn’t mean you can’t be factually wrong. I can say that water freezes at 50 degrees Celsius, but stating that it’s just my opinion doesn’t somehow make my argument even remotely worthy of consideration. You guys are arguing over a definition. This isn’t opinion based. There’s no grey area. Is this a trait that triggers due to player input? Yes, so it’s not passive.

I have no trouble going around the maps solo, and I play full DPS builds. If you are still having troubles after they decreased the number of enemies in certain areas, then you should start running more defensive stats and abilities. I bet the majority of people complaining about difficulty are just looking at Metabattle, copying the build without even reading how it’s used, and then running up to enemies and pressing 1 without avoiding attacks or paying attention to enemy abilities.

Jekkt.6045:

won’t change the fact that you have to play heal bot to be “competitive”.

You have the highest dps in the game. How could anybody be telling you that Ele is not competitive?

Absolutely not. While I enjoyed HoT, it has a lot of major flaws, the biggest being lack of content. In my opinion, it is not worth the price tag.

I will not be buying the next expansion until at least a month after release so I can gauge the player response. If I start hearing that its amount of content is similar to HoT, I’ll be waiting until a sale.

I thought it was pretty awful. They have all this lore that they could draw from and instead we get:
Gotta save people, guys!
Exalted are things and they like Glint, but that egg isn’t actually important to the HoT plot.
Dragons have weaknesses! (Good thing Zhaitan was weak to being shot with cannons! Lucky on our part).
I sure hope we figure out what Mord’s weakness is before we have to face him!
Oh look, Marshall is hooked up to Mord’s brain for some reason. I guess Mord wants us to kill him.
Magically enter mind for reasons.
Kill fat.
Over.
4-5 hours including artificial mastery padding. That is pathetic for an MMORPG. That is something I’d expect from Call of Duty. It’s obvious that they ran out of time, but shipped anyway so that people could be hyped about it in time for the holidays.

There are things that it did well though:
Canach
The Commander actually feeling like a commander
Having the story boss be tied to the final open world chain was great. It gave us the awesome Elder Dragon fight we always wanted, but also allowed us to face it on a more personal level.

I do like HoT, but IMO, the story was by far the weakest aspect.

How about an exchange. Hot fix this, but give me back the 0 cd Phase Traversal (I really miss zooming around open world with that).

It’s extremely easy to crush bad players with it, but that’s the case with Mesmer as a whole.

Wander.5780:

whoever is saying Revenant clearly hasn’t played the class much since last patch… sword/shield 1,3,5 is completely gutted, sword 2 is still buggy, and hammer 2 got a huge nerf as well… PVE Rev/Herald can do well but in PvP we get eviscerated by Condi Reapers to the point where you can only literally run from them to survive.

Which is why in the world championship finals that just happened, both teams brought double Revenant.

1) Engie
2) Ele/Rev -Ele has the edge for PvE while Rev has the edge for PvP
3) Necro/Ranger
4) Guardian/Thief

You could probably make an argument for different ordering, but all of those classes are pretty good in both PvE and PvP. People like to complain a lot, but class balance is actually in a fairly decent spot with only Warrior getting completely shafted in one game mode.

No. Warrior is in a pretty good spot for PvE. We have solid damage and good support. I suppose a buff to our ranged weapons wouldn’t hurt, but I think our auto-attack damage on our melee weapons is fine. I like that our dps rotation doesn’t even involve that much auto-attacking. It’s way more enjoyable.

Edit: and more damage isn’t what we need in PvP, so no to that as well.

Guys, why are you feeding the troll?

Anyway, condi mesmer is a great noob stomper, but that’s just the case with condi in general. Mesmer just has the added bonuses against bad players with clones and some invisibility.

Best:
Scrapper
Reaper

Good:
Druid
Dragon Hunter
Daredevil
Rev (tentative about this because it belongs here when sword 2 doesn’t bug out).

Okay:
Chrono
Tempest

Bad:
Base classes

Somehow worse than its core spec:
Berserker

While some people definitely take it over the top, it’s a little depressing when your main profession was trash in the PvP meta and then gets a series of buffs which don’t actually address the issues thus meaning it will likely still be useless.

Then you remember that you won’t see more changes for another 3 months.

Don’t get me wrong, I liked a lot of the changes from this update and the improved Shatterer is so much better, it’s just sad when there’s massive threads with tons of feedback on how to improve your profession and then the devs just ignore all of it in favour of buffing skills that didn’t need help.

However, as salty as I am about the lack of significant Warrior changes, this game has the benefit of not requiring gear or leveling to play a new class in PvP, so I don’t think it’s too big of a deal.

Cameron.6450:

ProtoGunner.4953:

Bullkitten, you need to precast first all facets, release it right before fight, use CC if needed (name; glint elite and shiro elite). After that you had to switch to shiro, use impossible odds til running out or you had enough to unrelenting assault and/or using figid blitz. Depending on mobs you have to cast rift to align the mobs in order to max out efficiency with axe 5. You only do impossible odds and sword auto if you are super lazy and yes; there were kittenty players who did that all the time, but it’s not fun then and not remotely effective if you don’t use all the herald facets. Why would you even do that…

I don’t call it hard but you still have to manage a bit and time your skills to max out DPS and evade enemy attacks.

All of which is absurdly easy. You can list every single thing you might have to do at some point (including cc, which requires all classes to break from a dps rotation, which makes it irrelevant), but when it comes down to it, doing all of the things you listed is basically nothing. You can mention activating facets like it’s taxing all you want, but they’re all just instant casts. Nothing special there at all. Not even taking into consideration the fact that with an optimised build in a raid group (ie paired with a chrono, and the place where rotations matter) you use mallyx or jalis, which is even easier since you don’t even need to run energy down for facet of nature to run out.

As a Revenant main, I agree. Sure, it’s not as simple as just mashing 1 like a lot of people think, but let’s not kid ourselves. We have one of the easiest professions in the game.

The nerfs really aren’t that bad. In fact, I’m happy they moved some of the damage to sword 2. It makes me feel better about using the skill besides just pushing it to run down energy more quickly. The biggest change IMO, is the Facet of Light nerf. Giving it a cast time is going to expose a lot of the weaker players you used it as a crutch.

Tiny buffs to skills and traits that didn’t need them. Our problem was never damage. The healing buffs are a very tiny step in the right direction, but the change on Berserker stance is a leap back. IMO, stances should be unique to simply having boons. That’s what makes them standout from the plethora of other skills from other classes that do the same thing.

PvP is really a trial by fire. The difference in skill level between a beginner and say… a bad player is pretty monumental despite them probably having similar MMRs.

Keep at it and maybe read some guides. Also, if you don’t have HoT, you’re handicapping yourself since you don’t have the Elite Specs.

Agree with everything. It’s mostly a bunch of underwhelming “that’s nice…. I guess” stuff with a couple of notably annoying things and some decent buffs to healing.