As a new player I can speak for other new players. We have no idea what you’re talking about.
he’s talking about the leveling ,skills, and trait unlock system we have now, it was different before same for feeding cows now to dance for them in Queensdale, Heart quest.
In some ways.. yes, but in others its much more than just the cows lol
yeah i know, just that one just irks me haha
I would hope the Devs and forums moderators would take into account, this isnt the first time i have atempted to speak up against what they are doing and after having spent 9860+ hours in this game, earning 13500+ AP (i dont go after AP i just earn it), and spending over $1000 on it that they would listen.
As a new player I can speak for other new players. We have no idea what you’re talking about.
he’s talking about the leveling ,skills, and trait unlock system we have now, it was different before same for feeding cows now to dance for them in Queensdale, Heart quest.
In some ways.. yes, but in others its much more than just the cows lol
As a new player I can speak for other new players. We have no idea what you’re talking about.
Been here since launch, i know what the original game was like before the “New Player Experience.” quality of life was much better for new players interms of leveling and overall fun, though it may not seem it now. it was much different, they could have added all the stuff they did without dumbing everything down.
I should note that this is directly speaking against the games developers so this will get alot of criticism and be taken down by the forums moderators, but hey. figured it was worth a shot.
If you wished to challenge the MMO genera why did you change the entire kittening unlock system to a generic MMO feeling? Arenanet come on, ive tried to be patient and hint to this. but i believe perhaps a more direct comment is best, the way skills are unlocked and the slots they use coming with levels are not new, they are the same as WoW, Rift, Everquest, And just about every other kittening MMO out there.. what you did with the trait system was also bullkitten. When it comes to leveling, there are a couple of viable options now that arent entirely grinding on the nerves like hearts are.. you can level through EotM which turned into a kittening bag hunt or you can use Crafting.. which tbh, that defeats the purpose of the games original design. you are discouraging players from going into queensdale by taking out 90% of the good events there, are doing the same to just about all the starter zones, tomes of knowledge arent frequent enough to make a real difference, and PvP isnt for everyone.
Alright so lets take a look at the UI side of the game that needs to be fixed first:
Guild Chat: Gchat tends to randomly apear on any tab despite the chat filters being in place and also disappears when changing maps, swapping tabs, or changing waypoints which causes a loading screen.
The report system: as shown in the screenshot attached to this post the report system is having several issues with there being only a few “Known” select-able options. the other options happen to be numbered like say ((552545) or something.
Now onto the bug we all know about for the characters:
#3The characters: Characters while standing around or on the move, realy anywhere will start talking at random with different racial voices and completely unrelated lines like say my female asura saying “Remember ascalon!” in a charr males voice.
So in light of recent hotfixes.. Anet has avoided putting out anything to fix the chat filters or random stuff coming from your character? seriously what the actual kitten anet?
It is distracting and a bit annoying yes (the guild chat can be temporarily fixed though, by setting your status to invisible and then back to online again), but it is no where near game-breaking.
Especially not compared to stuff like certain traits putting people in downed state and game crashing/launcher locking or a rather easy to replicate and abuse exploit.
Oh kitten Krall you’re from piken as well? man.. best server ever.
dude big issues are all perspective because we are all diffrent playstyles and while the voice and chat bug may not be a big issue for YOU it is a huge issue for the few of us who get our enteretainment through the chat and interactions.
Would you rather they postponed all fixes (for much bigger issues no less) until they have found a way to solve the other issues? Isn’t it better to just push out fixes as soon as they are ready? Especially when it comes to basically game-breaking stuff.
Well i consider gchat and all chats mixing in quite game breaking and distracting dont you? or perhaps the random kitten voices coming from your character.
Alright so its been a day, i get that. but as a roleplayer i’d like to ask where the fix for the chat filters is? as i swap chats from gchat to party chat and back.. guild chat completely dissapears, at the same time. the voices coming from the characters has also not been fixed, Anet how did these get messed up to begin with?
^pretty sure fog had me confused with someone else, I was on sor till after the 3rd season and never trolled anyone in TS, its true though that there was a lot of abuse and trolling going on in the ts during sor’s t1 days, after they all left I was one of the first people to work on the new one with java, papa bear, and fog, setting up channels and stuff and outlining the new rules for behavior as we were all very aware of the past behavior. Wanted to throw that out there to clear up any confusion to fog.
In terms of SoR’s current status, its very similar to what happened prior to season 3, where we were winning matchups and started rising up a bit in ranks and tiers. But the difficulties in getting the coverage and staying competitive during the 3rd season took its toll and eventually led to the 3rd exodus, so the current rise its more likely due to casual attitude regarding matchups among enemy servers. Next season comes along, its anyones bet.
I honestly don’t see how you could believe that is the more likely cause if you spend any time at all on SoR. I don’t spend a lot of time on SoR myself, but the new WVW guilds that were made and old commanders getting back into the game are absolutely the cause for their rise.
As I said, last month they were losing in tier 7, this month they are giving larger tier 5 servers a competitive fight. That does not happen simply because other servers are treating it casually. Whether or not the new guilds have the motivation to keep it up, or if other new guilds are made to support them, remains to be seen. However, judging from your posts in this thread, you do not want to see it succeed on its own and that is where this post stems from.
SoR’s WVW is quite active despite not being able to field massive raids currently.
Being brutally honest with you Axo, i don’t want to see SOR succeed nearly as much as it used to. that would mean ONCE AGAIN going against the memory of roger in hopes of being the top server, i remember the mindset we had back when i was there while SOR was falling from grace.
^pretty sure fog had me confused with someone else, I was on sor till after the 3rd season and never trolled anyone in TS, its true though that there was a lot of abuse and trolling going on in the ts during sor’s t1 days, after they all left I was one of the first people to work on the new one with java, papa bear, and fog, setting up channels and stuff and outlining the new rules for behavior as we were all very aware of the past behavior. Wanted to throw that out there to clear up any confusion to fog.
In terms of SoR’s current status, its very similar to what happened prior to season 3, where we were winning matchups and started rising up a bit in ranks and tiers. But the difficulties in getting the coverage and staying competitive during the 3rd season took its toll and eventually led to the 3rd exodus, so the current rise its more likely due to casual attitude regarding matchups among enemy servers. Next season comes along, its anyones bet.
Realized these posts were two months ago xD sounds like a firestorm, but i left SOR and went to TC. however i found a guild on my other account on Piken Square so i ditched the NA servers entirely.
XTD: We chose RaidCall over TS for 1 simple reason. You guys were jerks in TS. I will not support a voice comm for a server where Jerks run the show and people are allowed to throw insults like candy on halloween.
After you left I started making an attempt to get TeamSpeak on track with a more friendly environment and Xivor and Scriptko went above and beyond to make that happen. Yet GSCH still did not use TS primarily for 1 simple reason. They did not want off server people coming to our teamspeak. I run events open to everyone regardless of their server and this would not allow us to continue doing so.
After Season 3, they dropped that mandate and allowed me to invite anyone and everyone into the Community Events channel of our TS. Since then GSCH has been 100% supportive of using TS for all Community Events and WvW.
Simple: Don’t be a jerk, and people might want to hang out with you.
P.S. The SOR Teamspeak is using a 400 person license donated by a Gaiscioch member. Hows that for irony.
One thing you and i agree on for once, SOR is not dead. but its barely afloat, as it stands. its rebuilding, but do you honestly believe it will ever be at the population it was once at Fog? think clearly on this.
SoR is doing better because of a LOT of returning players. They were once a T1 server. You don’t get to T1 without the pug population. That population is being reactivated on SoR due to the expac announcement.
Still wont be nearly as high as it originaly was if TC opens up again or JQ & BG for that matter.
Its a bug. — Therefor its temporary. — Totally acceptable.
No, it’s not.
They delayed this update a week and still pushed it out wayyyyyyy too early. Rushing updates is just dumb.
If it wasn’t enough time to at least test to make sure something as basic as chat bubbles/down state not being green, random male charr noises coming from my human female character, and the plethora of other problems released this patch then it’s pretty obvious they’re understaffed. Tequatl is no exception to this and OP has every reason to be uptight about it.
You sound real entitled to this huh? well, sorry bud. you aint a dev, so bugger off.
So I am a developer, and I can tell you this update seems much buggier that it should have been.
Indeed it was buggy, but considering the amount of content Anet has for a $60 game. this in MY opinion can be ignored, if you are a dev. then you would know that not everything can always come out properly ready, as in things will always have one bug or another. nothing is a “Perfect” patch.
No, nothing is perfect, and certainly not most software. However, there have been a lot of regressions in this patch. Way more than I would personally be comfortable with.
Well.. i can name a game that did worse xD try wildstar.
“You paid only $60 for a game. Don’t except perfection!!!!!”
That’s why we can’t get good things in this game.
90% of the time even the community doesnt know what it wants, therefore there is no “good thing.” literaly ever. we wanted a nerf for adrenaline on the warrior and so we got one, then people went kittening and moaning about it all. we wanted a nerf to certain classes and then people went and kittened about it, i’d leave it up to the devs what they put in the game and thats that at this point.
Different people want different things…
You’re right they do, but they wont always get what they want and it changes so frequently that once something is changed. its more often than not kittened about and i for one am about to say this “Expect it and stop complaining.” ye get what ye asked for, whats the point?
“You paid only $60 for a game. Don’t except perfection!!!!!”
That’s why we can’t get good things in this game.
90% of the time even the community doesnt know what it wants, therefore there is no “good thing.” literaly ever. we wanted a nerf for adrenaline on the warrior and so we got one, then people went kittening and moaning about it all. we wanted a nerf to certain classes and then people went and kittened about it, i’d leave it up to the devs what they put in the game and thats that at this point.
As a previous member of SOR before my transfer off of it, i can honestly tell you with the way the community is over there. It will never see T1 again no, but they will infact be able to hold their own in the tiers they are in. however the loss of guilds and other parts of the community is causing the community to go against their original views, Foghladha would remember me as Igniaz from GSCH. i remember the ceremony we had for Roger we had on the server when it was first obtained and over on Rift, the community has changed since launch and is now much much less like it was planned to be.
Its a bug. — Therefor its temporary. — Totally acceptable.
No, it’s not.
They delayed this update a week and still pushed it out wayyyyyyy too early. Rushing updates is just dumb.
If it wasn’t enough time to at least test to make sure something as basic as chat bubbles/down state not being green, random male charr noises coming from my human female character, and the plethora of other problems released this patch then it’s pretty obvious they’re understaffed. Tequatl is no exception to this and OP has every reason to be uptight about it.
You sound real entitled to this huh? well, sorry bud. you aint a dev, so bugger off.
So I am a developer, and I can tell you this update seems much buggier that it should have been.
Indeed it was buggy, but considering the amount of content Anet has for a $60 game. this in MY opinion can be ignored, if you are a dev. then you would know that not everything can always come out properly ready, as in things will always have one bug or another. nothing is a “Perfect” patch.
So all joking aside, people have mentioned wanting white wings now since the black wings were thrown onto the TP.. Anet, any plans on putting them on there? honestly.. i’d buy them in a heartbeat just cause they’d look amazing.
Probably going to get silenced again, as anet hates it when you speak out against them. but allow me to link something from another thread. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Changes-Coming-to-the-NPE/first
Three months ago the NPE was promised some changes, yes some have been committed but the reality of it is this system makes the game generic, nothing about gw2 is very special anymore aside WvW. which personaly even that is old with the repetitive maps and PPT system we have. I propose Anet removes the NPE and instead focuses on adding content instead of this nonsense system that removed the fun that the game originaly was intended to provide, don’t fix things that don’t need to be fixed. seriously, its been long enough and people have infact stated they didnt like alot of the changes anet has made.
Gw2’s New player experience makes the game much more like the other MMO’s such as wow, though still not exactly like it. some of the stuff implemented just made the game feel generic from my experience. personally the old leveling system and skill unlocks made it far different than any current MMO, enjoyable even. Why NCsoft and Arenanet tried to make the Gw2 game more like other games is beyond me, correct me if i am wrong. but wasn’t Gw2 supposed to be revolutionary? or atleast somewhat different?
Nope, stating a opinion when i say. over time, they added updates that ruined the original games experience.
Fixed that for you.
I actually did mean FACT, gg.
Of course you meant it. Meaning or believing an opinion doesn’t make it a fact. If it did…my signed copy of book five of the Wheel of Time is worth a million dollars. I’m willing to sell.
They may have ruined the game for you but others like the changes.
If you look at the majority of the posts for the NPE they are negative, the same could be said for the changes to the Gem exchange. these are not the only instances Anet has gotten feedback from the COMMUNITY and elected to ignore it. for example, how many people kitten on the megaservers. i still have a go at the devs from time to time on the matter, because it removed the communities we worked so hard to build. one in specific was Tarnished Coast, a server community that is now but a memory for those who worked so hard to build it. only to be torn down by anet’s lack of caring.
A majority of people sharing an opinion does not make it a fact. It makes it a popular opinion.
What a scary thought though. Did the earth stop being flat when that belief became unpopular or was it round all along? Was the earth the center of the solar system originally only to be moved to the third orbit around the sun when beliefs changed ?
Typicaly speaking, when the post gets so many nasty responses. you would figure anet would realize they did mess up and fix it.
Nope, stating a opinion when i say. over time, they added updates that ruined the original games experience.
Fixed that for you.
I actually did mean FACT, gg.
Of course you meant it. Meaning or believing an opinion doesn’t make it a fact. If it did…my signed copy of book five of the Wheel of Time is worth a million dollars. I’m willing to sell.
They may have ruined the game for you but others like the changes.
If you look at the majority of the posts for the NPE they are negative, the same could be said for the changes to the Gem exchange. these are not the only instances Anet has gotten feedback from the COMMUNITY and elected to ignore it. for example, how many people kitten on the megaservers. i still have a go at the devs from time to time on the matter, because it removed the communities we worked so hard to build. one in specific was Tarnished Coast, a server community that is now but a memory for those who worked so hard to build it. only to be torn down by anet’s lack of caring.
I’ve been playing since the first Beta weekend, and I think GW2 is totally amazing and deserves praise.
It WAS amazing, but slowly over time it’s decayed. people give the devs far to much credit, seriously people look at the time from when the game launched to where it is now. i prefered the ORIGINAL gw2.
Nope, it’s still amazing.
To much pride to see how it’s declined.
Is it true that only your opinion is the correct one?
Nope, stating a fact when i say. over time, they added updates that ruined the original games experience. the NPE was the one that hit the worst, messing up weapon skills/slot skills, completely removing skillpoints at each level and instead granting them in clusters. dont kid yourself, you know it.
I’ve been playing since the first Beta weekend, and I think GW2 is totally amazing and deserves praise.
It WAS amazing, but slowly over time it’s decayed. people give the devs far to much credit, seriously people look at the time from when the game launched to where it is now. i prefered the ORIGINAL gw2.
I’ve been playing since the first Beta weekend, and I think GW2 is totally amazing and deserves praise.
It WAS amazing, but slowly over time it’s decayed. people give the devs far to much credit, seriously people look at the time from when the game launched to where it is now. i prefered the ORIGINAL gw2.
Just talked about this in guild chat, What the hell anet. get your kitten togeather and fix it, NCsoft doesnt make every decision for you. you need to stand your ground as well.
Denying each of these things is a result of far too much pride in the game, i’ve played 8,900 hours in total and kitten .. i’ve seen the game at its highs and lows, but now it’s quite a bit worse with the NPE and all the other changes.
Alright, so lets get real here. deny any of these and your kidding yourself.
Warriors main focus was their adrenaline and Anet nerfed it.
It took 2 years for Anet to bring out perminate content for gw2.
They do not focus on what the community says 1/2 of the time.
Yes Anet nerfed zerker gear a while ago, but was that realy needed?
Anet continues to Impliment things like the NPE that don’t improve the game, they make it worse!
Look at what they did to the gem exchange, does it seem like they are fixing it? no.
They never listened to the community about a expansion pack that would probably bring people back to the game and get them hooked.
Edit:
The mega servers actually decreased the games population, doing so drove alot of people out.
If i am wrong with any of these things, please let me know. but Anet you need to consider something, listening or not. i’m not going to lie, your sales are down. you think the gem store is going to help? no, you need to listen to people for them to even consider to want to buy stuff from you.
Opening up a new topic here to state several things.
Anet originally intended Gw2 to be one of the best MMO’s to be buy to play ever.
Anet loves this game alot and is full of pride in their second installment of the gw franchise.
They wanted to listen to the player base alot better than other games did.
The game was intended to be “Replayable” more than any other.
In Reality.
Anet is not making this game one of the best due to the patches messing things up.
If they had pride they would infact take a moment to stop and reconsider where the game is going.
Anet does not listen to the player base and instead comes up with these patches behind close doors then askes for our opinion.
The game is not “replayable” like it was intended to be due to the lack of constant content being added. sure we have the Living Story, but where is the actual continuation of the personal story
Here are some of the specific issues that i see in the development of the game.
Patches often have something that add things or change things in the game that the players dont like and anet fails to listen to constructive posts. instead focusing on the bad and ignoring the good.
If players are desperately wanting something like guild halls and cantha.. why ignore them? i can almost guaranty that Anet can get way more players if they added those.
The megaservers.. They lag horribly, make things very hard to get done from a guild or RP’ers perspective, and also take away the community’s we have spent alot of time building up.
Re-releasing old content over and over is not the way to keep players interested, as a matter of fact. it drives them away after so long.
I’m probably going to get infracted again like i normaly do but i’m going to address Gaile Gray, with all due respect.. i get you are a messenger, but the anet dev team is not listening to anyone anymore. perhaps thats our fault yeah, but at the same time. time and time again, they have disappointed the player base with updates. i’ve seen every single one since the start of the game, each one progressively got worse and worse until now we are finally lashing out in unison. Look, it’s time the dev team stopped and looked at eachother for a moment to ask. “What happened to our original idea for guild wars 2?” the game was originaly supposed to be amazing, one of the best MMO’s out there. but guess what? the game turned slowly and started to lose players. i’ve spent over $500 on gems and 8700 hours ingame. seeing the game slowly decline in it’s value. when is this going to stop? when you have no players left? or no
In other news, aparently Arenanet doesnt care anymore about what the player base wants. OPEN YOUR EYES ANET, YOUR LOSING PEOPLE FOR NOT LISTENING TO THE PLAYER BASE. each and every update you did that had changes to the ui like this one on the gem exchange has had negative impact on the games player base, you want money huh? stop kittening us over and try and actually listen to us for once, yes this is a rant. but kitten it anet, you dont listen or ask for imput from anyone. keep this up and your favorite game is going to die faster than you can get players back.
The new player experience is nice for the items and stuff you get every level, but i would like to bring something to Anets atention. The first few levels of a game are what make people want to stay or not, by removing alot of the events in the beginning of the game and making some of the most viable options for leveling Tomes of Knowledge, Crafting, Grinding hearts, or EOTM. you make it less fun for those who wish to sit there and see all the events as there are not many. one event i personaly liked was the fire shaman outside lake Feritas in the plains of ashford. i went into the cave today and found it was removed, that and the exit to the second part of the zone is sealed off. The skillpoints per level also made the game very fun before, unlocking skills one at a time was nice also. Anet with all due respect, you have not taken a step forward. you took one backwards.
Edit: Adding onto all of this, as others have said. the leveling process seems slower than ever. i created a new warrior so i could experiment with the ways to level, after quite a bit of doing that, i’m level 60. but i can honestly say, before the NPE. thing’s were quite nice, now it’s all dull.
Okay, this topic is related to alot of the changes yes but not entirely the same as all the others. I was curious about how the new leveling process would be so i created a second warrior, along the way i found a few viable options to level. One being the tomes of knowledge from PvP, Two being the obvious Crafting, Three being EOTM, and four being grinding hearts for hours on end while completing maps in the process. now here is my question for arenanet, why did they remove alot of the starting zone events like the champion in Lake Feritas? that was a realy challenging event for a long time, it would be nice to see that come back. also, the change in the Skillpoints threw me off for quite a while, why arenanet removed the skillpoint per level is beyond me. The leveling items are nice but that doesn’t account for the loss of fun gameplay until level 10+, the first few levels are very important to how people get into the game.
Your right when you may say this post has little to no thought behind it, but the mindless applications of conditions needs to come to a end. Necros just spam #1 on a scepter and the same for almost all classes realy regardless of the weapon. Where skill fails conditions come in? seriously anet, enough is enough. stop nerfing every class and adress the real issue, conditions.
I would like to share my experiences with gw2 during the tequatl events and ask if anyone else has had similar issues? the game keep’s crashing and this is the third atempt/fail for the achievements ive had in a single day.
if i am to be honest here, None of this even matter’s anymore. Anet doing these updates is a good thing. Nerfing the train allowed for newer player’s to enjoy themselves out in queens dale without being kittened at constantly by people in the train if they killed a champ. so im happy to see Anet finally stepping up to do something like this HUGE PROPS TO THEM FOR IT! also there are alot of way’s to make gold still, using the trading post to your advantage is a good way, and doing dungeons is also another one. The changes to the dungeon’s like the spider in AC spreading out all her aoe’s even if stacked makes it so you have to fight her the way anet originally intended, once again. Anet did a great job in finally fixing the exploit’s of others. so all this kittening and complaining, im personally laughing at considering this update changed alot for the better, all you people do is find something to complain about every patch instead of playing the game.
Maybe you should read the entire thread next time?
MY issue is Not that earning Gold is hard. MY issue is, I cannot camp for the materials I wish to acquire to level up My trade skills, Unless I want to farm for gold, and spend the gold at the TP, to BUY the components I need… for My tradeskills.
I understand that for many of the players here, that are content with the state of the game…the situation is exactly the same.
As I explained In a post above. In terms of immersion, I feel More connected to a world in which I can find a camp of mobs that drop what i want..I stake them out, I avoid wandering patrols…I solo the camp..to farm for the parts I need. THIS feels Like " Playing the game my way." as Anet’s manifesto assured I would be able to do.
Me..going into a dungeon, to then grind out gold… to then use On the tp, to buy the components I need… may be an efficient way for people that like dungeons, or even for people willing to accept Anet’s complete abandonment of their manifesto just to " get along" .." hey, Anet said it was hard, let’s feel bad for the devs"
As far as I am concerned…I can “play the game my way” here. or … I can play another game my way… while monitoring the forums.
So I Monitor the forums.
If you dislike reading my posts, you can ignore them, won’t hurt my feelings any.
PS: My complaint was never that the QD train as gone. I am happy it’s gone a Lot of toxicity was associated with that train that new players did not need to be exposed to.
My complaint is Mostly about Diminishing Returns.
Another complaint to add to the ever growing pile of them that i realy dont care about, if you want material’s so bad dont rely on the train’s anymore or events. actualy go farm them like the rest of us as you are nothing special. the reality is, GW2 is what the players make it by buying it and not paying for gem’s all that much. but i will continue to enjoy every aspect of the game until there is nothing left to do.
Stop praising .