Guild Wars 2

Trident: “Illusions of Drowning” seems to have unlimited range and does not follow the range indicator.

How things play out for us (SBI) starting around 11pm PST. every night. We have already lost the few things we had in JQ BL. We never had anything in the SoS BL. SOS starts taking everything in EB and once EB is left with 1 tower and a camp they head over to SBI BL at which point our commanders all have to go to bed.

“Inc. AH (camp) 50”
“50? Look again”
“You count them then”
“Oh ok, at LEAST 50 maybe more”
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“How many are on Bay?”
“About 30-40”
“OK let’s save it pls”
10 of us show up. Lost.

“Hills inc! Can we please try and save that?”
4 of us show up. Lost.

Ok they will head CS or LV or Garr. It’s all we have left. They hit 1 or 2 or all 3.

“Ok we have 1700 supplies in Garrison we need to dump. Start dumping them”

Lost. Well, we only left them with 200 supplies instead of 500 at least.

SBI ppt +35

1:30am – 2:30am ish PST time for bed I guess.

I assure you there is no teaming up going on. Our people are saying the same thing about JQ and SoS. Just tonight someone said, “Sos took then camp but let JQ stay on the Trebuchet” And day in and day out people say we are being “double teamed”. Hogwash imo.

Yeah, I didn’t want to get into using 3 weapons :P

My favorite class for wvw is mesmer. I use staff and 2 handed sword. (Trident underwater) A guildie uses two handed sword and one handed sword/pistol offhand. He is a dps spec. more glass cannon and I am a brick peashooter. I am impossible to kill but my damage isn’t very good.

You should jump into spvp with both builds and see which you like best.
His build is: 10,30,0,25,05 (Domination III) (Dueling II, IV,IX) (nothing on chaos (Inspiration IV, V) (and 5 points into illusions)

I am 0,0,30,30,10) (Chaos IV, X, XII) (Inspiration V, VI, IV) (Illusions III)

If you want solo camps with relative ease, ranger is also a good choice.

Our numbers have fallen drastically. We don’t have enough people to cover more than 1 map. People are getting pretty demoralized too. We already have problems with the number of people that we will probably fall a tier and then we have people stealing and killing our golems, and draining supply from our Keeps. AS IF they needed to do that lol.

All I ask is one week of your time to try us out as a server. We need you! From solo cappers to small/large guilds. Come join the fun!

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Weapon-siege/first#post1078854

Siege DOES expire and yes, we are refreshing the siege every 30 minutes. If you see siege, refresh it! especially the sneakily located ones.

Most JQ used to go to bed at around 11pm PST and lacked coverage during that timeslot, but now they have the coverage. Props to the 5 man JQ teams that were out taking Keeps when they had low numbers, and the one man teams sieging Keeps alone and building their own siege. JQ has some truly dedicated players who never gave up and truly used tactics to make up for their low numbers when they had none.
We salute you.

Have you picked a server yet?

I like downing quaggen nodes on my ranger because I can do it pretty quickly. I love underwater pvp on mesmer because I can usually beat people. But I suck at getting quaggen nodes down on my mesmer. I am specc’d exactly opposite of a glass cannon.. so er.. brick pea shooter?

Gah and on his Birthday too!

Bring it people!

Liquid.9672:

You get points for those “claim for your world” spots guarded by an NPC. You alsohget points for killing Dolyaks. The closer to their final destination the more points you get for killing it. Otherwise yeah, holding 300ish ppt is enough for that kind of point gain in 4 hours.

I am unaware of any points for killing Yaks. Can anyone confirm or deny this? The sentries give 1 point total to the score, so not accumulating.

At around 10pm PST our numbers drop dramatically so if you play during that time period we need more people! What would be especially helpful (imo) would be smaller groups to run havoc squads. Although a larger guild would be great too!

I don’t want to recruit to my guild, but to the server itself.

Here is where we stand: We are in 3rd place in tier 1 at the time of this posting, but the score is so volatile it changes from day to day. We were in first place for a short time this week, second place for a long time, and now 3rd.

If you are a commander, don’t be shy! We want you too!

As a whole we are against exploiting of any kind. Don’t bring your exploits. We are all a pretty nice group of people and no belittling etc. so if you can’t communicate without being volatile, we don’t want you. We keep the language clean as well. Map and team chat are dedicated to the battle and not random chatting. If this sounds interesting to you, give us a try!

Sil, What his letter was saying is that they cheated because they were tired of JQ and SoS cheating so they decided to do the same thing. Then they realized they didn’t like to have to match cheating with more cheating… so instead they decided to leave the tier.

And yes, the cheating is getting out of hand in tier 1. But I assume it is worse in the lower tiers.

I think most people are against anything that gives the already winning team an advantage. And the already winning team would probably always have all the orbs. I loved the orbs for what they brought to the other borderlands though for sure. So some way to put them back in w/o being OP sounds good to me.

Our numbers drop dramatically around 11pm (PST) Other than that we usually have a team on our home borderland or Eternal.

What time are you logging in at Dab?

Greiger.7092:

Hmm, SBI… I’m JQ… I had my Charr ranger dancing naked on some corpse spy in garrison…

Nah probably not. I think they were just there to spy on the golems, not portal.

If they can make ghost noises we need to be able to counter by forceing them to keep their view focused on anybody standing on them. After all if ya’ll wanna stay for the show game might as well give you front row seats.

I did see your golems but weren’t they used to break in in the first place? I didn’t report it because I didn’t see the point. We lost Garrison because of lack of coverage. The 3 or 4 of us defending actually laughed that golems were used when we knew garrison was a lost cause.

P.S. Tac Sym had a ranger using a Juv Snow leopard that could scale walls and was pulling the Keep Lord etc. before the walls were even breached. I didn’t know snow leopards could scale walls. It was a vicious beast too! hehe

One of the tactics though is to stay dead as a mesmer and wait for a thief to rez you. If you were forced to look at the map you wouldn’t be able to see what’s going on to tell the thief when it’s safe.

I also am not sure how much info you can gain while dead that would be worthwhile other than telling the thief when to rez you.

I stayed dead in Garrison lastnight as a mesmer and all I saw was a naked char dancing on me

+1 for being able to make ghost noises btw!

HoD.

Anyone who stayed with the sinking ship from back in the day deserves an award.

You can’t match people up according to server population because some severs may have huge guilds that do not wvw, or mainly pve. The current match up system, although not perfect, seems to be the best so far.

I also didn’t like the idea of server xfers until the HoD exodus. My guildies had bailed on the game and I was left solo, which I still enjoy… but waiting for HoD to drop tiers so we weren’t spawn camped was just too painful for someone who only wvw’s.

Before the 1 week limit I jumped over to try out the lowest ranked server. It was too much of a culture shock to stay so a friend on BG asked me to come there. I went and hated the community from the minute I got there. I am sure it’s a nice community/fit for some people, but it wasn’t a good fit for me.

I had always enjoyed playing against SBI during the HoD glory days. I never saw any sketchy business from them. I liked their tactics and they seemed to have it together… so I jumped ship again and I love them. Even losing I love these guys. It is a perfect fit.

Had xfers not been available I might not be playing. It’s enough of a punishment to lose your guild upgrades when you xfer imo.

Not a fan of that idea. As it is now the unbalance of players per side at any given time makes a huge difference. Being as lopsided as it is now is terrible. IE allowing 2 people on one side (JQ) vs 100 people on the other (Sos). (I have no good solution to that problem) Anyway, if JQ dropped down a bracket and BG moved up not only would JQ destroy the other 2 servers in tier 2 worse than BG did, but BG would lose even worse than JQ in Tier 1.

…so they are rarely upgraded even though with the 4 upgrades dolyaks can carry 140 supply instead of the initial 35.

It is actually just the 1 upgrade needed to increase supply delivery. I am of the mind to always upgrade supply deliveries first. The Dolyaks can be killed with or without the guards if they aren’t being escorted by humans.

Low tier servers actually make use of defense. All and any upgrades are worth much more

I am sure that is server dependent because I saw the exact opposite when I xfered to Kaineing for a night a while back. I am pretty sure they had never seen a fully upgraded camp before and I also upgraded towers and started upgrades on keeps…
The problem was nobody ever defended. So saying “Inc LV, need help” resulted in confusion by people. Like, what? Why would we defend? So the tower was taken before the upgrade could go through and no one cared. They took a keep and I started an upgrade and they said, “We don’t plan on holding this” I left after 1 night because it was too foreign to me.

It’s obvious that they expected guilds to claim the towers and forts. That those guilds would then stay and defend those locations and spend the money to upgrade them.
That simply does not happen and maybe never will.

On SBI we try and have upgrades going at all times and try to defend at all times (Minus the last few days where we seem to be down about 50 people) Having waypoints at all 3 keeps is super handy. But I agree somewhat that it is discouraging to then be steamrolled by 4 x your numbers in a matter of minutes after hours and hours of upgrading. At least people on SBI try and defend.

The biggest problem in WvWvW is perma stealth thieves due to culling. Driving players from the game.
I don’t know if that’s the biggest problem but it is sure up there. It hasn’t driven a lot of us out but as stated in the other thread, whether they are OP or not… the game has lost people because of them and that is just a fact.

I leveled my ranger almost 100% wvw but that was on HoD in the glory days. I leveled my mesmer almost 100% PVE and it was a lot slower because I leveled her alone and not with friends. Also, when I had leveled my ranger I had enough karma from wvw to buy all my exotics. (I actually screwed up and bought all yellows first… then saw the dungeon karma vendors. I had assumed I could only get the dungeon karma gear from running dungeons. Anyway, I STILL had enough karma to get my full exotics) Then on my mesmer when I dinged 80 I was like, “Uh oh.. no karma” so crafted my gear from matts mostly earned on my ranger.

hoschi.8693:

SBI BL last night – started with 5-8s lag spikes, then couldn’t stay longer than 20-30s before DC hit me. After about 10 times logging into game being in downed state (lol) and DC’ing again after entering map…

Moved to another BL and all was fine..

That explains our absence of defenders for bay lol. There were only 2 of us before I map jumped and asked for help. Then we still only had a handful.

TY Jayne, I will try that next time I dc.

I dc’d 3 or 4 times tonight again. Someone told me to go ‘invisible’. I tried it and didn’t dc the rest of the night. Not sure what that means… maybe a coincidence.

My DC codes were: 7:11:3:189:101

I haven’t ever seen a pull of the supervisor where the lesser mobs haven’t come as well. There are at least 2 mobs linked to the supervisor afaik, more if the camp is upgraded. Are you saying this isn’t the case? (I am just trying to understand)

I am reading a lot of DC’s from other people as well on map chat. Is this a global problem in wvw? I am playing in our home borderlands. 5 times I was rushing to save a keep or tower and 1 time I was just standing there guarding the north camp.

Could there be an ability that is causing this? Any ideas?

What frustrated one of my friends (who left) the most was that once the thief decided he wanted to kill all yaks from the north camp there was no way to stop him. 3 people trying to escort the yak(s) all the way south was not possible. The thief could always kill the yaks, he never went for the people. One entire night (over several nights) with zero yaks ever making it out of the north camp with no viable counter and he said he was done with this game.

Tulisin.6945:

Setch.2398:

Also, some classes can’t attack without a target… Ranger bow builds for instance have 1 AOE on a long enough cd they would never hurt him. They can’t shoot randomly w/o a target.

Just tested this, I was able to fire arrows in any direction I chose by free-aiming them without a tab target.

Oh really? I haven’t been on my ranger in a while I guess I was mistaken. Longbow or shortbow? I mainly played longbow.

Also, some classes can’t attack without a target… Ranger bow builds for instance have 1 AOE on a long enough cd they would never hurt him. They can’t shoot randomly w/o a target.

I am not going to lie, I too have had friends leave the game because of thieves.

By 15 seconds I meant the time it takes the commander to leave. Not his total time :P

No reason not to start at level 2 if there aren’t any queue’s imo.

2 of my guildies (of 3 lol) have been DC’ing a lot in wvw after lagging out. This has never happened before as often. They are still on skype though so it isn’t their internet. In fact one uses my same fios provider.

I dc’d once tonight while running in to save a keep. I rarely dc, but have seen (since about a week or more ago) an increase in dc’s from using wp teleports.

edit: In my Keep dc though there was no wp involved.

This is a disaster for smaller groups. There is no way to get 15 back until you use your 10. We were building random arrow carts to dump our supply so we could grab 15 again.

Some thoughts on the event: Needing 10 people seems like too many and this is in tier 1. I can’t imagine what lower tiers are going through trying to get 10 people to go to the commander. 5 seems like it would be ideal.

I think the commander should leave sooner. 15 seconds seems reasonable. 1 minute seems too long. Nice addition though!

Cover Girl.2580:

I just went to cap a JQ yak.. and when I dove off the cliff to kill it… I was insta killed. Notice anything odd about this pic?

Your name should be Matt!?

I believe you can still play PVE content together buy joining each others party in the area you wish to play together and right clicking their portrait and choosing to go to them. I have not done this but that is what I have read.

Most reports posted about exploiters on the wvw forums are deleted and cause drama. I do not wish to cause drama. I just want to know the best way to go about reporting the issues.

Thanks for your concern though.

Example: A Keep is taken by exploiters but you cannot see them to report them, but you would like Anet to know that this is happening.

Gaould, what is your exact problem? Where do you get stuck?

zazu.2836:

Judas.5432:

Cover Girl.2580:

all I get from killing SOS are huge repair bills :<

I often get claws…..and not just from Charr. These guys are some kind of mutant freaks! We need to exterminate them…

I don’t know about you but I get rares and exotic drops from SoS zerg hunting. Noto all the time but makes WvW worthwhile

Wow really? I have never gotten an exotic drop ever across 2 fully geared level 80 toons. 1 Toon was leveled almost 100% in wvw, and I play wvw 5 hours a day, more on weekends. What is your secret? :P

I logged in before work and saw almost the whole map Red! What was the final score or has it ended yet?

edit: P.S. much love for WM

He is using intel to ‘warn’ us of incoming attacks. His troll seems to be to be accurate with number of people, golems etc. He gets great joy from trying to mind game us. So he does have friends still on SoS or is using an alt account. His info seems to be legit but it is still just a big mind game.

I give winning credit to elte on SoS who have always been honorable. The rest of the shenanigans are just silly. People cheating into places where they should not be etc. And now this.

3 days sounds fun to me.

I think it would add some excitement to the game seeing the devs playing!

You can’t pick up an orb once it’s placed on an altar no matter which side you are on.