Guild Wars 2

FA/JQ are the best choices. Both servers could use help in the NA time slot. The other T1/2 servers are doing just fine.

The siege cap thing is a bug. Also, SBI is the “anet server”. Has been since beta.

The answer is so obvious, it hurts. No.

Has no one heard of Seafarer’s Rest??? :o

YES! Spent all my time in gw1 doing nothing but FA and JQ. Would love to see more people come back and breathe some life back into them while this event is running. Come on everyone. The juggernaut and siege turtle are waiting for us.

marnick.4305:

I always liked FA a lot due to the asymmetic goals. Made for some extremely interesting mechanics. Unfortunately it was horribly unbalanced as long as Kurzicks had a clue. Still… best casual pvp in GW1.

If the luxons had a good team (lots of damage and support to heal the turtle and keep allies alive), no amount of defense on the kurzick side could stop them. :P I’ve seen good luxon teams beat kurzick teams with 7 monks on multiple occasions. That’s the beauty of FA. Playing as a team was sooo important.
My favorite FA moment was when I played on the luxon side and a derv, fire ele, monk and myself on necro rushed the orange gates at the start, pushed all the way to green, got it down and killed Gunther while all of the kurzick side were still busy at the purple mine. Game ended in 2 minutes. Best part was that the kurzick side had 3 monks who frantically tried to make it back to save Gunther. They were too late

FrankieBonez.8361:

I love how all these DB posters whining about 2v1 have become to voice of Dragonbrand.

Check the post history people. The old guard don’t care about 2v1, we’re used to it, we expect it, and we love it. It’s these skinny jean, young bloods that can’t take the heat.

Let it run it’s course, lot of these whines are probably first time WvWers. Active WvWers should know better.

You might wanna double-check their posting history yourself :P

They’ve had enough of TC :P
Have fun in Blackgate!

ykyk.2740:

This would be bad only if servers remain stagnant. The prospect of constant unbalanced matchups (since tiers are so far apart in coverage) and no longer being guaranteed to fight the same few rival guilds might eventually encourage “top WvW guilds” to (GASP) transfer off the same few stacked servers and spread out among more servers, which will in the long run result in better matches with more variety.

Under this system the only way to ensure “good fights” every week is to spread out, and not stack to the top like under the old system.

I agree with this. Currently, people have been stacking into T1-2 servers to ensure “good fights” every week. Now that this might not be the case, it could encourage some of these stacked servers in T1 to “de-stack” and spread out and create a lot more balance. And YAY for variety.

Rawnoodles.1398:

Niim.9260:

Rawnoodles.1398:

Official : RE vs VeT

• Video now up!
• 15 v 15 GvG

Why do you keep posting the score? I have done a lot of GvG’s and never seen anyone so disrespectful, which is counter to what GvG’s are about.

??? Its not Zerg vs Zerg. When two guilds agree to gvg they have every right to post the official scoring and videos. In fact, people do want to know the scores therefore your argument is invalid. Clearly you don’t do GvG’s right. We lost to VoTF, they posted a score and we didn’t complain. We actually posted a video of our loss in respects to the match. Point and case .

I think what he means to say is that the score and video has already been posted multiple times on this thread. Constant re-posting makes it look like RE has something to brag about. Though that’s probably not the case, it can look like it.

In no particular order:
1)TC
2)FA
3)BG
4)JQ
5)Mag

Wild card: SoR. They haven’t really been “tested” yet to see how they deal with losing after a long winning streak.

Aurust.8961:

Which server in tier 2 has the best NA and best guilds?

Best NA is anyone’s game. It all depends on who has a better lead in from euro prime time. In terms of best guild, well I think it’s been we’ll established that BT from FA is the strongest/scariest in the tier, though each server has their strong guilds.

FrankieBonez.8361:

Asudementio.8526:

I must be missing something here. DB was going to move up to T2 without transfers. DB would have been stuck in that irritable tier 2.5 mess due to their lack of coverage. DB got more guilds to stay in T2. That’s what the situation is right? That’s how i understand it. DB worked their way up here but i cannot say that they wouldn’t have put up a good enough fight to stay in T2 because i didn’t get the opportunity to see that DB. Instead i get to see this version of DB and i can only assume from what posters from DB have said that without the guilds that transferred to DB they were not ready for T2. What’s the problem?

Were you not around during TC/DB/Mag back in early March? Judging by your post history, you were. That is the same DB that was moving up to T2. That is the same DB I mentioned in my previous post. That is the same DB you just said you did not get the opportunity to see, which you clearly did.

What’s the problem? The problem is almost all of your posts towards Dragonbrand have been in regards to “wagonbrand” as you have so fondly dubbed us and getting on us about our recent transfers despite not “being ready for T2.”

Asudementio.8526:

Perhaps you should be recruiting players if you find the populations imbalanced.

You said that in the TC/DB/MG thread way back in March, and that is exactly what we did in order to be competitive in this tier because we knew from TC/FA’s multiple visits to T3 that we were too small for T2.

So why do you keep going on and on about Dragonbrand not being ready for T2 without transfers but then Dragonbrand getting “bandwagoned” ?

Although mildly entertaining at best, your posts and quick jabs at us don’t really come off as “all there.”

Might wanna wipe all that froth from your mouth. Relax

Welcome to DB and to T2! Best of luck in your T1 ambitions.

Holy crap FA! All three keeps in EB under your control. Nice work.

Are we living in the 19th century of something? I’m guessing the op thinks that exposed ankles are the devil’s work!

Doomdesire.9365:

Why are people acting as if SoR’s NA is “stacked” now? It’s always been like that. Nobody complained about it when BG was winning, nor JQ. It’s more like JQ/BG seems to be getting demoralized + we don’t lose everything overnight. Choo, FEAR, TW have been here from the start. Tysm joined quite a while ago in T1. These complaints are literally coming out of nowhere….

TW was in SoR from day 1?

Motoko.2875:

**Also – Is Anet really paying attention to this thread like they said they would lol.

Well this thread is discussing the mistakes that have been made in both gw1 and gw2 pvp. I think you already know the answer to your question.

Arkanfel.8403:

Usagi.4835:

All FA did was turn up to the party uninvited and cause some trouble by camping your spawn in EB and then taking Jerrifer’s.

You are almost as adorable as you are delusional.

Take a nap! Get all that cranky out of your system.

DevonCarver.5370:

I don’t want to completely ruin the surprise but you should hear something big from us in the coming weeks about this very topic.

Do you also plan on fixing arrow carts once and for all as well as making WvW more rewarding/lowering the costs to upgrade?

Darius Glazkov.9750:

shagworth.5017:

Silly me. And here I thought it was because of NNK and throngs of people that came to ride on their coattails. Guess I was wrong.

NNK is probably one of the few guilds I have respect for on DB. they have stuck with DB for… ever. I just hope that when DB collapses (lets face it, it will happen like it does to pretty much every server that gets bandwagoned) that NNK stays on DB. true showing of server pride.

Fun fact: NNK hasn’t been in DB since day one. In fact, they started out in JQ.

Why leave JQ in the first place when you’re just going to create another JQ?

Yet again anet fails to see the big picture. Yea ok, they do less damage to siege but siege operators are dead before they can even get a 2nd hit…

AC damage was already very high before this mess. Individually they sucked and this is probably why anet thought it needed a buff (which means you obviously don’t play your own game) but everyone knows to build MULTIPLE arrow carts at each gate. Max in a 1000 unit radius is 12 arrow carts. 12 arrow carts were overpowered back then and now it’s worse.

And let’s not even get started with the range……

For once, can Anet please not be so incompetent and actually TEST their updates before releasing and REVERT IMMEDIATELY things that go horribly wrong. There’s no reason to leave it in the game while you take another 7 years to figure out how to fix it (and still not really change anything). Stop killing this game like you killed GW1.

No one ever asked for this kitten.

Evalana.5480:

GabGar.4962:

I just want to ask if this kind of behaviour should be tolerated/allowed by Anet, guilds, servers and players.

Eh, people do it on all the servers. I know FA’s done it a time or two, lol

I think I remember one of FA’s guilds ran under the name “Cant Spell Fail Without [FA]” or something along those lines. Cracked me up, it did

Guys, if we go back to GW1 and put some more life back into it, it will entice even more people to come back and then we can all have fun playing a game that doesn’t revolve around the gem shop.

Just curious, how large is JQ, BG and SoR’s SEA crew in terms of how many guilds and the numbers they bring etc?

My gut feeling tells me that Anet’s “fix” for arrow carts isn’t really going to fix anything…..
Heck, knowing Anet, it might get worse. Don’t get your hopes up people.

They transferred to DB and probably opened up recruitment that’s all….

NOVUS.7421:

Have Fun in Eternal last night. Lots of excellent fights. Credits goes to FA night crew.
We didnt see DB pushing any of our towers so we decided to take all of theirs. Cheers to all those who participated in last nights fun.

FA = blue
DB = green
TC = red

Novus

Should have posted a screenshot of what DBBL looked like at that exact same time :P
All that red…

Anet is working on a solution to this team colors dilemma.

FXLEACH.9436:

’scuse the poor graphics, and possibbly poor wvw knowledge… But pls tell me how do they get their arrows to fire inside our Hills base, like this in the picture?

This is done using a triple monitor setup.

Efface.8460:

Hadan.2841:

Carried DB’s NA for months

Omg…this is just gold

You gotta admit it’s true though, right?

Stars.8576:

Sharpoon.8197:

Stars.8576:

Maniac.5163:

It must be difficult for some of you DB posters to drag that ego around with you.
Just sayin’

It must be difficult losing.

You’ll be in for a surprise in the near future.

Suprises aren’t surprises if they don’t surprise me. It doesn’t surprise me that in ‘the near future’ Dragonbrand will be on top.

That’s a great attitude to have! It’s always important to be optimistic. I respect you for that.

Stars.8576:

Maniac.5163:

It must be difficult for some of you DB posters to drag that ego around with you.
Just sayin’

It must be difficult losing.

You’ll be in for a surprise in the near future.

You solve skill lag by fixing/upgrading the server, not reducing player cap. WvW is supposed to be large scale pvp.

All of them

15chars

Anet, this has to be fixed quickly (like within a week). No one is going to wait around for months while you twiddle your thumbs wondering what to do.

I still don’t understand why this change ever had to be made. No one complained about arrow carts being weak. If it wasn’t broke, why fix it? You should have played wvw and seen what it was like attacking a gate against 12 arrow carts…..

You guys really need to play some WvW before you make more game-breaking changes…

Both servers are on a direct path down the tiers. It will happen soon. Anet doesn’t need to do anything.

I’ll give you a hand. In briar, build arrow carts at the bottom of the stairs close to the supply depot. There, your ac is now indestructible from anything other than trebs. Use the environment to your advantage. Now go figure it out for yourself in all the other towers/keeps.

Mesmer phantasms (greatsword #4 in particular) can as well. I’ve also seen ranger pets do it. Arrow carts built right at the gate can use to gap above the door to do it as well. See, not just dragon’s tooth……

shortcake.8659:

Sharpoon.8197:

All that picture shows is that most people have no clue about proper siege placement. You can place defensive siege at many spots where it is out of range of Dragon’s Tooth. This is a “get good” situation.

So proper siege placement should account for people using camera hacks? Great thinking.

You think Dragon’s Tooth is a camera hack…. lol………..

Zikory.6871:

Again, I don’t disagree with you but that’s not the point. The class still has the power to do this even if siege isn’t there. Anet will cater to casuals (as all mmo’s end up doing) this make casuals unhappy thus it will be changed. Just like leg specialists, any “hardcore” player didn’t have a problem because it sucked to have to fight it but it was great to have on your side. It just had to go because 1 class was the only one that could do it.

EDIT: I also think “L2P” is the end all for most issues but you can’t expect people to just L2P. They get to play the game they want and learn at there pace, we can only feed them information, we can’t make them eat it.

Anet isn’t going to nerf something just because people refuse to learn. Leg Specialist nerf had more to do with being able to immobilize 50 people than warriors being the only class that could do it. Even if every class could immobilize 50 people with an arrow cart, it would still have gotten nerfed.

If every class had dragon’s tooth, player stupidity/inexperience would still be the real problem.

Zikory.6871:

Sharpoon.8197:

All that picture shows is that most people have no clue about proper siege placement. You can place defensive siege at many spots where it is out of range of Dragon’s Tooth. This is a “get good” situation.

I don’t disagree with you but the issue I see is a long the lines of leg specialist with ACs. One class has the power to do this.

Learn to place siege properly and no class will have the power to do this.

All that picture shows is that most people have no clue about proper siege placement. You can place defensive siege at many spots where it is out of range of Dragon’s Tooth. This is a “get good” situation.

We all know the real reason……………