Guild Wars 2

Iv seen multiple threads over the last month or twoand can’t seem to find one again about hidden killer. I run full zerk everything currently except solider chest and legs and was gonna swap em out for valk.

My question is at what point of your precision do you take hidden killer over executioner? I wanna say it was around 55% but I’m not good with numbers. Currently I run 90% so I take executioner, but should I decide to more valk gear I wanna know the cut off so I don’t have to min/max gear again. Thank you in advance and if it makes a difference I’m speaking from a wvw standpoint.

Kinda played with naded and idk wasnt a huge fan mostly due to my bindings probably, but it just felt strained to use and still move in combat.

A metaless class? Why didn’t I make one earlier, after looking around more the amount of builds are incredible. I played a few hours as a condi bunker build and was having a blast it’s allot of skills to learn and combos though. As confused as I still am with this character I am sold on leveling after some pvp today, thank you all four your help I’m sure I’ll be back later with more questions

A gaurdian has trade outs high defense = less dmg visa versa. I dont play war its boring my buddy does and he can easily maintain 3k+ att with 3k toughness and a respectable crit chance. And you say war is broken? Lets not forget your health pool compared to a guardians as well….. the thief part makes me chuckle you played one recently? I definitly don’t c consider us a top roamer, I won’t even try to attack warriors in wvw cause itll take me 5 min of perfect game play to drop them while they stand still literally AA for 2.5k a hit.

Im doing this on my phone so I’ll make it quick to save frustration. I msin a thief and guardian for the last year and am getting kinda bored. Iv dabbled with other classes but they don’t really peep my interest engie does had a few questions before I rolled one out though.
~ any know bugged traits I should know of before taking?
~ I see nade builds everywhere, but have trouble finding much on power based builds
~balance? Do you add the engineer community feel your in a good spot ?

Thank you all in advance for any info

Same here when i see a ranger i just see a free and typically easy kill. Outside of regen and prot (which i normally steal anyways) I feel like rangers are easy spike targets.

I run d/d in pvp and wvw, d/p feels slow to me. 9/10 encounters I can normally drop a d/p thief but they will always have the upperhand with blind. D/d can be played effectively but it takes a bit more work I like it so much bettee though.

Honestly our dagger 3 skill (deathblossom?) Works wonders for me against d/p but its heavy ini so use it sparingly. But you know they have seconds to BS so ill count to about 2 and hit the evade and watch very carefully for “evade” to pop as its a good tell to where there at. When they bp combo your stuck with a blind and need to land a CnD, I autto attack and the second the blind causes a miss I CnD, you know there gonna try to get behind you so it’s not hard landing it in a invis thief. I feel its WAY easier to down them while there invisible as opposed to fighting blinds. There’s a couple o other tips I have but im doing this on my phone lol ill edit it nice and neat with how I deal with d/p after my shift in acouple hours.

Most power builds I don’t have issues with receipt warrior in some cases, but condi I need to be on point with no mistakes to even have a chance against conditionmancers or nade engis. No idea why but PU isnt usually a problem. I play d/d 10/30/30

Looking for a guild that is active doing events and runs together ( even when im in guilds iv never had a guild group for ANY dungeon or frac ect). Im not picky really outside of that i main a thief followed close by guardian i mainly pvp but love doing fractals so long as its a decent group. I also like WvW allot and would be interested in any guilds with small ops roaming groups of any kind thanks!

I play with a RAT 7 (not a rpg mouse) with two buttons on the side and i use the middle mouse click as well. Idk if this will help you but my skills 1-5 are bound to those numbers as there easy for my hand to reach in a moments notice. My heal is bound to “e” my “oh kitten” utility is “Q” and my elite sits on “Z”. I prefer to have my utilities very close to my movment hand, however i see allot of people doing the opposite as well ( utilities 1-5 and weap skills around “wasd” hand". My mouse skills are things like about face (180 turn) call target and i think the other is a utility as well.

Iv seen a large amount of newer players coming to my class forums (thief) asking for pointers or general tips in game. Wether your a thief or any other class (as iv played many) i would like to offer up my game name (seen to left of post) to any and all new players who need someone in game to ask any questions to or for general help. No matter the class or content im always ready, knowledgeable and willing to give you a hand!! So please dont hesitate 90% of the time im killng time anyway

So what about outside of pvp? I know I love a Elle in my group in pve but what about wvw? Most the wvw posts seen to be d/d and s/d, how do you guys feel as roamers

Thank you for the responses, im not looking for a easy mode class or anything the more challenging the better. I think thats why i was drawn to the thief so much cause i struggled with that class for so long. After i posted this i fought a d/d ele in a hotjoin on my thief. Normally i see d/d eles as easy kills due to my boonsteal and such but for whatever reason i could not touch this guy, i was being chain stunned for long periods of time and i really couldnt do much damage to him. I dont play a glass thief i run 2700 toughness and can normally eat a bit of damage but this guy would drop me pretty fast if i stayed around. No idea what build he ran or how he did it but it kinda inspired me to play one now lol. I consider myself a above average thief and this guy made light work of me multiple times.

It was a year ago when i started this game and d/d eles ruled pvp with a ironfist, and i loved my d/d ele but wanted to explore a bit more. Not long after i took up thief and guardian as mains and stuck to thief since then. I leveled a 80 ele a couple weeks ago through the pvp tokens on a random impulse probably cause i do miss the feel of d/d ele and had allot of fun. But its been quite some time so im curious as to whats viable/unviable with this class now? I honestly dont see many eles in pvp anymore and allot of these forum posts look a bit negative. So whats the state of the class at the moment? How viable are eles in a pvp setting (even if its just hotjoins)? And what are considered to be meta builds regardless of weapon sets at the moment? Any and all help is much appreciated!

The tab target has been fixed a bit to help with that on my keyboard i have “C” bound as closest target for when there on me and the tab targeting now targets players followed by pets/clones ect. But having a closest target bind really helped me keep targets pinned down specially against other stealth class’s where you lose target a bunch.

My apologies, I remember the days of 1200 range fondly…… good days. As mentioned above though we kinda just keep getting forced into a weapon set and it’s nerfed over and over. If you drop the evade from #3 it’s just a super pricy cripple on a set with no defense other than shadow shotting away.

If i recall shortbow was NEVER nerfed so i dont know how we would nerf it “more”. Second why should it be nerfed? Cause some people abuse its evade? Other class’s can maintain 100% vigor without trying and dodge to there happiest desires and its a issue that was can spam a backward evade 3 maybe 4 times (at what point were out of ini and sitting ducks) So i disagree, besides haven’t we eatin the bat of nerfs enough the last 6 months?

If it’s strictly leveling I favored the s/p. Blind field and a hard hitting evade. Idk what level you are but I grab 15 in acro for a extra dodge. As usual all power gear as other stats at low levels don’t do much anyway.

Lol arnt you the same guy on ranger forums asking for more stealth……….

D/p will nearly always drop the field on stomps. If it’s d/d they can trait to blind on stealth as well. Allot of the warrior skills are easy to see coming just keep them guessing don’t do the exact same chain repeatedly.

I want to welcome you to get at me in game anytime ill be on the next few days I pvp 80% of my time I play and main thief id love to meet up ingame and show you what I know see you soon I hope

Lol kudos to the poster above that’s the point of the game is to counter, its d/p nothing much they do is unexpected or shocking 5, 2 backstab even as a thief I have no issue with the blinds they produce

Ill admit to loving the 15 pts for weakness, but only in pve i run it. Outside of that its mug or i just dont touch the line at all. The +xxx power is whatever and easily made up in gear or runes so that has no pull for me

Let the HS spammers spam, i too noticed the HUGE amount of d/p thiefs joined a server last night with at least 6 or 7 total in a 15 man server at the time. And they HS spam allot constantly try to stay stealthed ect. Which is fine by me cause we learned a long time ago how to deal with it i thought….. lol they will reroll soon or actually learn the class, in the mean time i love eatin them all up with my d/d build while they desperatly attempt to apply blinds and backstabs to me. We probably all HS spammed a lil when we started

Iv ran 30 in trickery pre and post dec 10th patch the line is awesome. And with nearly every build except p/d. Having a 21 1/4 sec stun (instant too) can really turn tides specially stomp denials or heals. Bountifull theft alone i feel better protects you then the SA line will all together. I can keep a nice array of protection/regen/ect by timing my steals on my enemy as opposed to being invisible for a bit while they just aoe me to death. And with the ini gain accross the board, who cares about regen its all about just having more ini all together. A year ago when i made my thief i fell in love with that line and never looked back. As a d/d too the stun on sleight of hand wont break stealth, so you can CnD → Steal (applying 1 sec daze) →Backstab and auto chain before they can do much but maybe dodge once.

You can definitely do power based builds with that set. Theres also d/d bleed condi builds but you don’t see em to often. The entire set is aimed at power based builds other than 3 skill. I find the evade on it is very nice in pvp, even if the dmg is a joke. But for apower build slap 30 in the crit line, and work from there with your play style. Personally I run 0/30/10/0/30 d/d I love our trickery like.

actually im talking from a PVP stance mainly since its 80% of my gameplay. I run 0/30/10/0/30 d/d build with shadowstep only out of the two, and do quite well. In WvW however yes i do run SR but its maybe a hour or two out of a month i even touch WvW honestly. And to be honest in fractals and dungeons i run it for easy revives without aggro. In my main gameplay though i almost never run it. So to answer your question what would i run? Still scorpion wire cause i love it in multiple ways, as a interrupt, gap closer, and unsuspected skill for a thief, pull people from fields before they combo and catch runners while causing a KD on a 20 sec timer assuming that stability isnt up, which happens more than not surpirsingly. Sorry i didnt state it before its new years =) lol

maybe im off but it always confused me why so many traits were condi based, i know it has condi duration on it, but it really has no usefull “power specifice” traits to it other than a select few. When i make a power build i normally never put any in DA other than 10 sometimes for mug when it fits the build. The only time i peek at DA line is condi based for venom cd and such. Which seems off to me honestly i make up for all my power in gear. Never really had any ideas on how to really improve it but in power based builds of any kind i make i never stress over grabbing FOR SURE anything in DA, if anything at all. Honestly only in s/d i run mug at all.

I run shadowstep but not refuge anymore, just kinda trained myself not to use it, first 6 months on thief however they never moved from my bar =), now i run shadowstep/ scorp wire/ blinding poweder. Scorpion wire being the one id switch around and play with.

I run a trickery build as a s/d and d/d spec the 20sec steal with a Stun help’s me allot, as the poster above stated whirling axe helps allot anytime the bow comes out I whirl immediately, plus honestly I run scorpion wire allot to to pull ppl out of fields or just to interrupt, wars have easy access to stabilty but it’s easy to hit it still cause no one runs it, normally they run hammer in there other set which is easily countered as a thief

Thank you all very much for your answers, you guys went into way more detail than i was expecting its a huge help. Ill be sure to copy this to a txt document to refer too, quick question though is there a chart/formula for how much AR you need for differnet levels. Currently i run 10% in my 10 to 19 range but when i progress whats the safe amount per lvl? ty again everyone!

My fellow thieves, of recent iv been getting into fractals a bit more and am still at low levels ( 10-20 range). Currently i run 0/30/10/30/0 sometimes i swap around and drop the acro line, with sig of malice, shadows refuge, and assasins sig, running s/p sb combo. Gear wise im full zerk except shoulders and feet are soilders, with all zerk trinks (1 acended ring, and amulet). However i want to know whats the “expected” or optimal build for higher level fractals for when i get to that stage. I dont see thief being a super desired class in high level fractals but i love mine and am gonna play it anyway. Any tips builds or pointers would be awesome for me to take ideas from and be a big help.

ps. sorry for all the grammatical errors peeps =D

I run heal way and love it on my guardian I switched up a little from the standard build but it’s a blast to play. I’d give you my variation but I’m at work from my phone

I feel your pain a little op, at one point in time i was raging the same about thief’s. So then i made one and learned the class, its now my main, and a glass thief is not a difficult counter as everyone has already pointed out numerous times. I don’t want to say its a “l2p” situation, its more like a “l2c” (learn to counter) situation. Who dosnt carry a stun breaker…..

ok man then dont invite? dunno what the problem is lol

lol ok? its a reference to a comedian but suit yourself

Looking for Tpvp orientated guild, iv played pvp almost exclusivly once in a while i like to do a dungeon or two. I play a theif and a Garudian mainly, i love both classes and want to join a serious Tpvp team to learn my class’s better and be competitive. Its pvp so server dosnt bother me much however im on SoS

Most the time i Spvp and ill run shelter just becuase i end up in allot of situations where theres more then one person on a point and surviving a huge burst from multiple ppl at one time is so easily timed with shelter even if the heal is smaller, if i can negate a huge combo with allot of dmg in it to heal less its better than taking mass damage and trying to out heal it instead in my eyes, and as for wvw as well mostly for the oh no factor of being able to stay alive to get to a safe distance to regen before i charge back in. However iv only used the signet and shelter, cant say iv ever given healing breeze a fair chance to prove itself i may have ran it for all of 5 min before i went back to shelter.