Guild Wars 2

Love the idea specially with it being “guildwars” i too bough the game expecting varied game modes for pvp. I love conquest dont get me wrong but not conquest all the time. Iv been seeing some really good suggestions in these forums lately for different modes that are really well thought out. Id love to see this implemented.

Use that condi gear to slap around roamers in WvW

Sick em is meh honestly, in my thief it’s never been that big of a deal to have used on me. With the huge flux of acro based s/d thieves which is all too common in pvp, is reveal means nothing.

Iv come across power rangers that held there own against me, though not often. Wilner, if it helps at all please pm me in game I’d love to spar (I main thief) and with every win, assuming I won, I’ll tell you at what point you opened yourself for me and how to not let it happen again. If you would like that is

For better assistance please replicate your exact build on a buildcalc. It would help far more than your shaky word.

All the while never doing damage cause revealed exists………

If your overwhelmed a good general rule, is the flashier the animation the more its gonna hurt. I have no idea for the most part the skill names, but I know what they look like

Ok? Was just a question as to if they said anything

Did anet say it was bugged, or is this actually how they want it to work now? I love sb can’t stand the new animation though

Lol wasn’kitten warrior who started the shadow rejuv nerf thread? Beacause healing in stealth for 300hp was so outrageously OP….. (healing sig cough)
Anyway, I feel we are still in a good spot, I think the biggest adjustment was the ferocity change, which every one had now worked around to regain dps.

Love d/d the most, I like it’s in your face playstyle and the look of welding them. I just wish it had all working skills, dancing dagger is so fail, I do a small victory dance every time it connects.

Wait the games been our for how long now and scrubs still can’t counter SR/stealth…… wow. After playing a thief when I fight one now it’s easy for the most part I know where he runs stealthed. How to make him blow utility’s, and drain ini, no matter what class I’m playing. Why is this still hard for people

It’s funny cause iv been leveling a second thief that’s asura just to hide my CnD better lol

I stuck with shortbow and s/p the whole time leveling and it worked nicely. For wvw though b there’s two questions.
~power or condi
~solo roam, zerg, or small team play
Answer those two and there’s an abundance of builds for each.

I use it as engaging, to get melee range. It can get funky when you use it already close to a opponent. Tbh though I use it just for the evade, or to proc LS obviously I’m never really keen on landing it on my foe, its LS you want to smash em with.

Trait wise it looks solid, my phone I can’t see the actual traits just were the points are. The only thing I’d switch up for wvw is you power signet, as d/d if recommend infil sig for gap closing. Also immobilize stacking in wvw at least in my server is very common, you might wanna look into withdraw specially with the ten in acro, you can pair it for vigor. The heal is just a personal preference of mine however.

In wvw one time I was messing around with a warrior, and he one dhotted me with a 14k+ evisc. I was full zerk with valk weapons, I laughed pretty hard when it happened. Didn’t pay to be a annoying thief that time….

Also you need to realize, if we regen at 300hp for 10 sec, it takes a quarter of that time to deal equal damage on a thief. Think of it like this, one warrior auto attck of 2k takes me about 6 sec of Regan to heal and I HAVE TO BE IN STEALTH not doing any dmg to you.

Ahhh the daily thief qq post. Glad that’s out of the way early…….

Iv got maybe 5hrs play time in my warrior, and I smash with him in pvp. With a random celestial distracting strikes build too. I man a thief, and when I roll my war I feel like a God, it’s a million times easier, I honestly don’t even know what all the weapon skills do I just press em when there up lol

Even after all the nerfs nothing will replace it as a main for me. And honestly in pve iv never had any issues grouping, or being viable I always feel like I pull my weight.

Lol cluster definitely breaks stealth. Love how people make up facts and numbers and just throw out as evidence.

Engi I know im winning/losing with the first 5 sec of combat. Iv tried them to and it’s tuff but allot of condi engis can melt me nearly on the spot.

As for warriors, iv never really struggled that much with them. D/d I need to be a little more careful, but I bait them into using there stances kiting and then just AA chain > BS. 9/10 times it’s hambow though can’t say I come by many axe wars.

I scrapped mine as well, im so attached to my 3rd utility slot though i still use it lol. Iv just been running without any speed boost, took a little getting used to but i play d/p currently so gap closing isnt a tuff feat to pull off. Between shadow shot, infil sig, steal, and shadowstep (even withdraw) all on a single bar i dont feel at a loss in fights. For travel i just HS spam like a boss, it keeps up with others fine.

As a thief player i see it completely fair to lose all initiative spent on a interrupted skill. As pointed out above most our weapon skills dont have a activation timer to interrupt on. So if your good enough to bait me into using the skill and pull of the interrupt its skillfull play and i was simply outplayed and put on defense with a large chunk of initiative missing.

I dunno if my thief is different from all of yours, but iv had my CnD and HS both rupted and lost the initiative (i play d/d so no idea outside of that). CnD dosnt have allot of room to rupt only 1/2 sec but its still doable. If i remember right it was a mesmer pistol OH that got me at point blank range ( probably assuming if im close im going to stealth, which i was)

Its a pretty noticeable cast honestly, looks just like mass invis if im not mistaken which is a fist in the air for a couple seconds. I dont play a mes, i main a thief, it sucks to get moa’ed but its by no means a game changer. Honestly in hotjoin i get moa’ed, its my personal goal to kill the mesmer while in that form just because i know they’ve gotta be steamed over it.

Always love running your builds (slightly variant fir my taste of course) nice to see a working pvp one, I’ll have to give it a shot. The wvw one you use is awesome, love roaming battle grounds with you. Keep up the good work :-)

The build is very very glassy to start, if your just basing it off how youd gear in Spvp zerk has vitality there which probably helps you survive better. WvW you want zerk peices but since they dont have vitality or toughness you want to mix in some other to get a happy medium. As far as the fight goes Bazzoong did really well explaining that, but try to swap out some rings or weapons for something with some more defensive stats.

Not sure but iv seen a HORDE of rangers coming out of the woodwork. Tbh i dont even know what was changed on them but i know there’s allot of rangers, engies condi got a little meaner than i remember, and wvw actually has ele’s in it.

Either way though expect condi to take a step up in this game. With the ferocity nerf i can see allot of people jumping on the condi bandwagon for a bit. Be wary fellow Thief

YAY! welcome to the ranks yolo! Fun class, just started playing around with condition builds after a year straight as power. Have fun, were not liked much so you dont need to fight fair our AA is cheezy dont ya know?

Iv tan into a similar build I’m pvp. If I recall right ,30 trickery for daze and ran immobolize venom. He opened with the stun and immobilize, clustered like a mad man and I melted quick. Had to be some vary of hybrid stats, clusters hit hard and had respectable bleed damage paired with it. I whispered him giving him props afterword, he said the shock factor of the build made it shine, you don’t expect a SB thief to fill engage in you and when he did it happened so fast it was hard to tell what was happening.

Lol do you need to see him? Where does a thief need to position to get a BS? Your back! You should revise how you deal with stealth if because you can’t see him, all counter play is void to you for his one trick pony build.

I’m actually starting to see allot more engis roaming I play on SoS, and for the reasons op stated. I even made one I’m levling specifically to roam myself.

Lol needed a good laugh today ty. You realize a backstab thief is probably one of the most predictable builds in the game right. Stealth into BS everytime normally, it’s no mystery what he’s gonna do from stealth.

Thank you! iv been playing around with it in pvp today allot with various specs, rough start but after a hour of tweaking i got some really awesome results dps wise. It was pretty common (in a 1 v 1) to maintain at least 8+ stacks on a foe, just gets tricky timing CC’s so they actually use skills, but it payed off. ty again!

At one point I wanted to make a build that proced distracting strikes partially through fear for fun. Turned out even though the action is stopped the game didn’t recognize it as a legit interrupt.

The new patch notes I skimmed through and saw fear now counts as a rupt and procs on interrupt bonuses. However on the wiki site (which is updated with the ferocity and all) says there’s a bug that makes “fear me” not count as a interrupt. Is this from pre patch and not removed or is it still bugged? I’d test myself but I literally made a warrior last week and lack a testing buddy.

yup after a day of playing this new patch i give up on zerk gear, i melt WAY to fast for the amount of damage im dealing now its kittened. I cant realistically say i actually "spike"anything now i just hit you kinda hard and struggle over the next 30-45 sec as i slowly melt……yay, off to play p/d i guess seeming as condi damage is what anet wants us all to play.

kinda hard to tell this soon for me but im not too happy looking at my #’s roaming, see how it plays out though. couldnt even score a 7k+ hit on a ele….

Iv decided to level my fourth 80 as a ranger after playing one in pvp recently and really enjoying it. I mainly WvW. And add my ranger gets closer to max I’m curious as to builds.most of what I find is pretty outdated and I have no idea how the last few patches were for you as I main a thief I never read your notes.

So I’m curious as to
-common general trait setups for condi and power
-is GS viable? I know it got hit hard
-I’m leaning toward a condi shortbow build, is it even with trying in wvw? (Not zerg, small man)

Thank you for any assistance you can offer 1

I ran venom share style build for dungeons before running p/p with ricochet, problem comes down to condi stacks though. Allot of other classes just straight do it better, and when a single necro or ennui is in the group one of you really isn’t contributing any more cause condi is capoed. Which is probably why you see the build assumed toward pvp/wvw.

However if you wanna do it I’d recommend 10 in power line for vuln trait on crit. If you do pistols you will need at least 20 in trickery for ricochet. And I’d not go full on condi, have it as a main damage but have a decent amount of power to do some physical dmg as well in the case of max stacks. I can’t see your build on my phone and I’m no condi expert with this class but that’s my thoughts on it. When I get home maybe I’ll do a quick build how id do it and share it with you see if a anything tickles your fancy.

Slap N Tikle not to thief like I suppose

It’s a lore thing, and as mentioned in gw1 assassin’s were hated, they were called “sins” because players saw the creation of the class as a sin by anet. Funny though as it was a stealthless class. There was no stealth at all in gw1

Errday a new thread, put it on the nerf wishlist ans leave our forums free of this kitten clutter plz

Lol ok tell you what have fun being a loot bag, the tips your shooting down are how I eat thieves, but if lot bag is your choice then do be it. It’s not over simplified, your just trying to make it more complicated than it is

Uhh every had a dual stability war stomp you and GS away faster than a thief can chase? What about a PU mesmer invisible stomping you while his clones eat the rest of your buddies and he blinks fir 1200 range laced with prot, and aegis? A thief had a limited amount of ports and toss to escape

Love how he focuses on the trap and not what ppl actually suggested play style wise. JUST USE DODGE…… and common sense, two missed CnD is a thief with no initiative = easy kill

Here’s my thoughts on the speed boost, I accidentally traited assassin’s retreat a day or so ago. I didn’t notice till I ran for the first camp with 2+ min swiftness (from stacking bloodlust) get to the camp cap it and repeat. I decided to run it just to test how often I can keep it up as a test. 2 hrs in I still nearly always have a it up think it dropped once or twice briefly. So I figure if I can do that I can get a rune set more specific to my needs.

I love trav runes but I was also solo roaming at the time of purchase and it was just for the 25% perk. Now that I run in 3 to 5 man groups, assassin’s retreat shines. If it’s not what I thought then ill just switch back no biggy. So is it utility you look for in runes like speed boosts and such or raw stat #s I guess is what I’m asking more specifically.

and basi has had its fair share of nerfs.

Part i really dont get is you say you see the thief and keep a eye on him. sounds good so far….. then he stealths again and 4 sec later your stunned. STOP THERE. If hes in range of attack and vanishes what do you think hes gonna do by time his stealth is up? most likely he is gonna attack you thats when you know hes comming. Instead your method goes like this
-see thief in distance
-he gets in range and vanishes
-since i cant see him ill wait to eat his entire opening burst
-now that im under 50% and near dead im gonna panic and drop everything i have
-thief waits a second or so while you squirm and burn every defense
-he HS one time and ends it
You realize wether or not you VISUALLY see them hes still there and trying to get within that small melee range to hit you. See him vanish? count down to three and hit dodge youd be shocked how many times a evade pops up. That one evade just negated 50% of your hp lost, and put the theif in the open.