Guild Wars 2

Serraphin Storm.2369:

Another 4k hp would be gone in one crit. Ranger have lot of evades but while your evading your not dealing damage (unless your condi).

We don’t need more damage. Even without stacking might like some of the other classes our damage is good. When up against anyone it isn’t the damage that decides the fight but the actives and passive defences.

Rapid fire can do 10k damage and path of scar another 8k. This does include the damage our pet can do with open strike. The problem is that passive defense makes a big difference. While active evading is fine you are also not dealing damage in that moment.

Passive effect like defy pain allows a warrior to not take physical damage while at the same time allowing him to unleash everything he has (negating 100% physical damage and not limiting his damage output). A defensive passive is what we need ( not bark skin in its current form).

The ability to dance around and not deal damage and running away isn’t a play style we should be proud of. Some think rangers should stand off point and rapid fire all day this isn’t good either. With the influx of reflect and block skill it isn’t the brightest idea.

Nothing wrong with softening your target get up and then going in for the kill.

This highlights a problem we cant agree on what we need. Yes there are thing we all what but what do we really need.

Ranger melee damage is nowhere near warrior, thief or guard. Nowhere near it.

And @anduriel, you obviously don’t PvP. You can’t use mainhand sword in a power build.

GS is the only choice because it offers some burst, albeit small.

It will, was out last October…

Tbh they could have made this change and left out resistance.

Got any stats for your general consensus? My experience is that it gets picked almost every time it shows up…

The real question is, why doesn’t it have its own queue yet?

I really don’t think ranger survivability has a problem.

I think we have a melee DPS problem.

Is this thread for real? You can’t be serious…

Don’t want any finishers on any autos.

Op obviously isn’t familiar with karma trains. WvW died before eotm came out. Eotm just gave the ktrainers a more efficient place to farm.

If you wanted to “fix” the situation, you would have to fix wvw population imbalance and scoring.

Otherwise people would turn wvw into ktraining again.

Were that mad because you were doing well or because you were doing bad?

FYI PvP is more about where you are and when than it is about builds.

The problem for medium is the chest pieces cover the legs.

There are plenty of pants but only about 3 chest pieces that don’t cover them.

The second problem is that the crotch on the pants looks really weird if you do have it uncovered.

There is no bulge.

emikochan.8504:

Maybe you shouldn’t play the same thing every day if you’re looking for variety.

My point is that sw is the most dynamic, most engaging, and most challenging open world content. Nothing else is as interesting anymore.

Or do you actually enjoy kicking the shatterer in the shins for 10 minutes?

Sw has rendered other open world events obsolete. So it is time to revisit them.

I really hope we have something other than Mordrem to fight in HoT.

I’ve been playing Silverwastes pretty much every day since it came out. Not because its the most interesting place to be, but because:

1. it has the best rewards, and
2. it has the most challenging open world pve content

Its literally made every other part of the world a waste of time.

Don’t get me wrong here, I’m not complaining about SW. I love it. But fighting the same mobs day after day is getting really old. And the prospect of fighting nothing but Mordrem in the expansion is starting to worry me, as we’ve already been fighting them exclusively for almost a year…

If there really is nothing else coming then I seriously urge ANET to look at revamping some of the meta events on existing maps. There is plenty of interesting events/mobs out there to fight, but they don’t reward anything near like SW does.

Does anyone else feel the same?

As others have said, AOE aegis on SHield 4.

Boom, shield is now awesome.

It’s seriously weak now. Great way to throw 10+ stacks of burn on yourself.

It needs resistance.

Unholy Pillager.3791:

Sube Dai.8496:

Since I have nothing better to do, I am going to put this to the test.

I know that 300 bags nets me about 40g if I open and salvage everything on a level 51.

So I’ll try doing 300 on a level 80

Too small a sample to be remotely certain, sorry. You’d need thousands at least to draw much of a conclusion here, given how many possibilities there are and how rare some of them are.

Maybe for the types of drops but not for the gold returned.

5 weeks from hot, they probably won’t bother now.

Correct me if I am wrong but ranger shouts are the only ones where the base affect does not affect allies. This instantly makes them inferior to warrior or guard shouts, especially with trooper runes.

If ranger shouts are only going to buff the ranger+pet then the affects need to be much stronger than what they are. Quickness, aegis, retaliation, stealth…and any other useful utility. Maybe even an attack of opportunity in there somewhere since we don’t have enough access to that rather unique ability.

Personally though I would rather see them become group support like all other shouts.

Wanze.8410:

Mirion.9361:

Due to over 2,000+ issues i seen were about the lack of loot gain from champion bags meaning that its not enough profit from 1 champ bag than it worth wish they would buff champ bags of some type but not to overwhelming.Also over thousands of people enjoying farming gw2 for champ bags but there should be more farming grinds like for example (Silverwaste) we want to see more like this in the future of HoT. Im not asking for much but what is everyone else opinion on this? Just wanna make it where farmers have their side and dungeon farmer have theirs

The problem with buffing drops from champ bags is that the more they put in there, the more mats and items will enter the market, bringing prices down, so it wouldnt really make a difference.

Precisely. The rate of pretty much all mats is relative to the amount of champ bags farmed in sw.

They would have to adjust the volume of chests to compensate.

Since I have nothing better to do, I am going to put this to the test.

I know that 300 bags nets me about 40g if I open and salvage everything on a level 51.

So I’ll try doing 300 on a level 80

System is perfect as is

I think you’ve hit the main point which is that the trait line sux.

Existing guard build like shouts or medi wanted an improved ranged weapon, but now we’re forced into this crappy trait line in order to get it.

I see most people sticking with scepter…

Yeh might as well nerf the one thing that rangers can bring to a team.

Or better yet just delete the class.

I would like to see this also

Daniel Handler.4816:

This also means they have worked on the class the longest. Not to be too hopeful.

Well it doesn’t actually. The date of the reveal doesn’t mean they started working on it any earlier than the others. They’ve probably been working on all classes the same amount of time.

The difference is that ranger will receive the least player feedback, and that is not a good thing.

I’ve been playing 1-2 hours per day and I’m only at 148…

But I can appreciate that this might be annoying once you do hit 300.

I think simple vendor to trade it for mats would be good.

Dragons are lazy I guess.

So much noob on this thread. Are people actually trying to say that trap rangers are op? They have no stun breaks, a passive condi clear every 10 seconds (useless), and run rabid. Which in this so called condi meta equates to full glass.

If you are dying to trap rangers, venom thieves, burn guards = you suck.

This build has been around for like 18 months…

Anyone done any sinister vs dire dueling?

I’d like to put this “dire is ezymode” crap to bed once and for all.

Few things here.

If you were running lb/GS then you were not running the optimal build. You also made no mention of what your skills/traits were so its possible that they also were not the optimal choices.

The dungeon meta was full zerk until the 23/6 patch and if you were not using zerk then your pug would have been justified in using that as an excuse for failure.

However since then the ranger meta has actually moved to sinister axe/torch. So if anything your group should have been annoyed that you were not using sinister rather than zerk.

This shows that most people are not up to date on what the current meta builds are, and people will just blame their failure on whatever they can.

Long story short, your build probably wasn’t the best but your pug had no idea either.

This thread is all over the place. Please don’t talk about PvP and wvw in the same context, they are totally different.

PvP has/had some semblance of balance. Wvw is a clusterfrak of buffs and nothing that holds there should be used as an indication of class balance.

Not only do they sound like farts, they are really subtle and hard to hear.

Like the silent but deadly type…

I vote for them to just revert them.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Sigil of generosity.

People will figure it out eventually.

They used to be useless but now that we have Condi’s stacking they will start to see more use.

Sorry I must have missed the bit with the facts and the evidence. All I hear is “waaa waaa I’m losing to condition builds”.

There are so many options for removal, on every class.

The problem is that you refuse to change your build.

Taunt is not op in any way.

Burn fine. Nerf access to burn for ele and guard.

Personally think guards are fine too but I’m not crap.

Everybody happy.

Until everyone figures out how to complete it with zerker…

Not expecting anything different.

Yeh I don’t think that’s it..

Yeh I don’t think that’s it..

It’s arather small inconvenience, for a short period of time, to ensure we have a more balanced product at release.

Just live with it.

OP I think you are treating them like they were a regular source of income. Which they might have been, but now they are a much rarer material.

You will simply need to find new ways to make money.

I’m only talking from a PvP perspective.

Why would you ever use them for pve/wvw…

Spirit health is fine, if people were actually afraid of killing them. Which is how area denial is supposed to work. But everyone knows they can just aoe them from range and they are dead.

For spirits to work as intended they need to be immune to everything other than melee damage.

Yep never gonna happen.

Data centre costs in Australia are very high (because of high wages), and the OCX population in game is too small to support it.

You wouldn’t want it anyway. Maps would be empty all the time.

Given the state of PvP balance over the past 12-15 months, I don’t think anet is taking meta builds into consideration.

I mean its obvious from the results that they don’t just sit there and say “well ranger is not in any teams, so lets do something to get them there”. They just don’t seem to work like that.

Which is a shame because its the only way they can make all classes viable.

They need to decide that there are X number of roles, and classes 1,2,3 can all do role one just as well as each other. 4,5,6 do role 2…etc.

They are terrible yes.

Altair.8402:

Yeah I don’t particularly like how direct damage has 3 attributes related to it but condition damage only has 1 (from equipment). The highest damage “condi” builds isn’t even pure condition damage, but a mix of power and condition damage.

Right now (to the best of my knowledge) it’s impossible to match a direct damage build’s DPS via only condition damage. There isn’t anything wrong with this (or Dire would be hilariously OP) except for the lack of variety.

What I’d like to see: introduce condition duration and a third attribute that somehow enhances conditions. Then a build focusing on condi damage, condi duration, and this third attribute should be dealing around the same DPS as zerkers.

There are 3 stats that directly affect condition damage, the same as there is for direct damage.

They are condition damage, condition duration, and precision.

Maxing the 3 of those will give you the highest possible condition damage.

You can always pack more cleanse…

Conditions have been useless for 3 years. We’re only just entering a period where ppl have to actively manage their cleanses, the way it was always supposed to be, and you are complaining about it.

Sounds like l2p…and l2adapt.

Very valid point, especially on the UI.

I don’t think anet have very good UI people to be honest. A lot of their designs are very out dated and not good uses of space.

You know what they need? Reflect projectiles.