I’d like to shed some light on our thinking with this AC change as well as tell you all what we are doing right now to balance it.
Firstly, when siege weapons were originally created, they had the intent of being really good at some things and not so good at others. The arrow cart is intended to be the anti-personal siege weapon. It is intended that arrow carts are all about controlling an area through damage. If you remain in the area that is being hit by the arrow cart, you will die. You can however, move out of the space and/or find a new way to attack the intended target. That being said, they are not intended to be so good against other siege weapons and we are in the process of addressing that right now. We are also addressing their range when upgraded to be more in line with the range of ballistas.
Secondly, this change is going to require new tactics and those tactics include things like using ballista and catapults to destroy arrow carts. With that in mind, we’ve been looking more closely at the numbers of all the siege weapons and there are definitely some changes that need to be made to bring them in line with their intent. We are going to take a holistic pass at siege weapons in the coming months and drop a rebalance of all of them to get them to more closely align with what they should be doing.
Finally, the feedback you all provide is a very useful part of this whole process. WvW is a living, breathing game type and any changes we make have numerous consequences that don’t become fully visible until everyone starts interacting with them and devising new strategies. Our goal is to provide a complex combat space that rewards skill, tactics, and ingenuity and while we haven’t fully achieved that goal yet, I like to think we are getting there.
In the coming months, meanwhile you most of your most noteworthy wvw guilds will be looking for a new game to play.
Anet has kittening lost their mind.
I think its hurting more than they realize. I hope it doesn’t come down to how much Anet cares about wvw, cause we know the answer to that.
I don’t want to be over dramatic but I’m just going to say it. This patch changed the pace of wvw to a point that it is simply not enjoyable. I’m sure every reason why has been pointed out here, but I simply lack the interest in getting in extended siege wars whether or not its simply a matter of me adapting. I give it about 1 week with the current patch before I get bored and leave.
Scout: DB is sieging up ruins!
Commander: Are they moving towards South Camp?
Scout: Not really..time passes
Group walks to bay and exit through South to resup at SW Camp
Commander: I had no idea he meant this when he said sieging up ruins..
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Sorry for the bad gif. Wanted to re-take but most of it had been destroyed
Gist of it: Some DB dude dropped siege all the way from Sentry near SW camp all the way to Sentry near NW camp, all the way through ruins.
Thanks for the laugh xD
Funny if it’s a joke. Not funny if someone is trying to seige cap DB.
That guy literally laid out a few hundred pieces of seige. It went from our (FA) spawn down into lowlands. Here is 1 pic I took. Didnt take more b/c we tried to build the 8 or so golems he threw on the ground
I might have had something to do with that build site train ;P
lol, you’re right FA wins every fight. We’ve never wiped FA; we try but…alas, you guys are just too good.
In reality, there are 3 guilds from FA that pose any threat to us.
Did I say FA wins EVERY fight?
No, depends on what FA guild you are facing. There are FA guilds that wipe ANY TC guilds 80-90% of the time, and there are also FA guilds that are 50/50 to TC guilds.
There are no guilds that are even 50/50 with [PiNK] that reside on FA. What guild are you in because I’m very interested where your delusions of grandeur come from. Please provide a little more than forum warrior speculation.
I agree Sunspots, Tear was trying to be diplomatic. PiNK has improved though over the last couple of months. Just don’t give up yet and you guys can get there.
Thanks for the praise. It really tore me up inside when your old guild cracked under the pressure of t2 and fled to tier 8 to escape it. You guys came back strong though and are now capable of some pretty even matched fights with TC militia.
We used no glitch. We built an ac outside the Lord room and fired inside. Why do you think you still had balistas up in the back of the room when we rushed in. You put up a good defense, and while I certainly can’t speak for everyone on TC that has stepped up to an arrowcart, I can say I don’t have time for that silly SAB nonsense.
Great defense in Hills TCBL DB. It took about 3 hours of concentrated effort to finally take it, but we don’t give up easy. Thanks for the fights.
I think I got like 30 bags just from that TC push into their hills
Did you guys get a bit impatient?
Nah, we were forced to take FA seriously for 5 minutes.
You should try running around with a big [PiNK] target on your back sometime :P I could change my appearance but I enjoy the challenge. Hasn’t cut down on any of the great videos though. I proudly bear my [PiNK] cross for the Tarnished Coast and welcome more assassination gems.
Lol, another one for my collection. You realize I’m not the Mayor of TC right? You don’t get extra wxp for assassinating me ;P
Yes, I personally pretended the wurm was Xerxes.
Bleh, never lets me quote, but to Maniac: Yeah, I knew what you were talking about when you mentioned it, but I wasn’t sure if I recorded or not. It’s pretty funny to watch them standing in the back as if waiting their turn. I sort of feel like DB was fighting a little shell shocked by the skill lag we are just used to. Even so, the new AMD drivers made the many 3 ways a lot better.
Great Matchup so far! This is the first video of [PiNK] in action reset night on FABL. This is probably my favorite of all our videos because it really captures who we are. I hope you enjoy it too, and cya tonight!
Welcome back [CO]!
I like this so far being in T2( Asides from skill lag and low fps)
But I must say its nice to be in a tier where your enemies aren’t kittening about X guild/player doing X thing to X person, and having a flame and chest thump war break loose.
Things are always quiet the first week of a new matchup because the final result is actually in doubt for a change. Still though, tier 2 threads are relatively tame compared to others.
I’m glad you guys chose BG. They have an anchor type wvw community that can handle downturns then come back fighting. Community is everything in wvw.
I really like this match up. Lets make this last forever. t2 the new t1.
hahaha <3 soo glad to be up against pink again love you guys! <— formerly blackgate icoa made my own guild
Awesome, welcome back to your old home in Tier 2 ;P
I want to thank [TG] and [NNK], as well as [VK] and [RET] for making for probably the best reset we have had in the last 7 weeks. However this turns out, thanks for staying and fighting tonight!
Kaineng dropped tiers, and FA dropped tears, what a great matchup. Cya Next time!
Leading a 100 man megazerg is hard work. I recommend all 4 TC commanders take a much needed coke and candy bar break and lets get these Zergs operating at maximum efficiency!
Big Ds House of Bees has been having a lot of fun so far on FA BL. Great fights from DB and FA!
I know that guy lol
Good fights so far. Welcome to Tier 2 DB. That skill lag your feeling is just your bodies adjusting to the tier.
Another reset, another match, a new opponent. Cya on the map!
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All Tarnished Coast citizens have similar setups. Its a gift from our sponsors.
Good luck [RISE]. Wherever you go, just prioritize stability and you will be fine. As long as people genuinely enjoy being where they are, the rest comes naturally.
Sometimes when we are hurt, we say thing we don’t mean. We’ll always have that Hills fight to look back on fondly, when you stood across the bridge, as we did too, our swords clashing, rain falling, and you were there. We didn’t get Hills that day Kaineng, but we came back, and so will you.
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I’d like them to use prefixes. At 60, when you are “knight” you get sir/dame.then maybe at 120 lord/lady. they could have them spaced apart but it would still rock.
Thats tricky though with people already being able to use words like that in their name.
There are already Commander Commanders.
Really? Come on, you say you want fights. A full server empties out after 20 minutes of contact. What’s going on?
[PiNK] is in KABL. Please don’t leave!
Because most rangers are very unaware of their surroundings. They typically stand in the back of the zerg out of “danger” and are super easy to spot. Once attacked, rather than run to the safety of that zerg, they will usually try to get some range often showing their back to the thief. If you don’t want to be the thief’s target, try to stay in melee range more.
I’d like them to use prefixes. At 60, when you are “knight” you get sir/dame.then maybe at 120 lord/lady. they could have them spaced apart but it would still rock.
I think both of those servers will have the sort of wvw community stability you are looking for. I know it means a lot when you are able to trust the guys on every map to pull their weight. I’m really proud to see how much our own TC guilds have developed since we first hit Tier 2 so long ago and with the addition of a new stable community in their own right, it feels very comfortable.
I don’t think newer players really understand the system as those of us who have been here from the beginning.
I’m surprised this isn’t locked already, the conversation has run its course, the gems are spent, and no matter how it all happened, DB is poised to enter Tier 2 with TC and FA next week. WM is no more, and poor kaineng will be dropping. I’m really excited to get to see some ex-[EMP] myself, and I think I speak for most of TC when I say that.
For those who enjoy long RP-Walks on the beach, I bring you:
Sorry to see Kaineng start to weaken. It was great to really get to see you guys blossom when you finally hit your true tier with us so many weeks ago during BG/KA/TC. Your NA had an uphill battle most of the time with WM anchoring overnight, but you guys always put up a great fight and never stopped defending. Good luck to you, whether you transfer or stay!
Let’s not drop down to FA’s level. We’re dominating them so much now, they’re just bitter that we’re much better in terms of coverage and skill level.
Anyone else find this post ironic?
And yes, we were ping ponging between maps last night trying to bolster our defenses and hold what we had. You know, doing that whole PPT thing that some of you guys are telling us to learn.
I don’t have anything to add…I just wanted this quoted so I can look back at it every time someone from BT says they only play for the fights.
Yeah, my server can.
Anything that shakes up the brackets is good for wvw. Seeya soon!
Some srs underwater action going on in EB.
Dragonbrand is coming.
Well didn’t this matchup just get interesting again.
I don’t even remember last week anymore. Here we go again.
Meanwhile…In the real game…Score Update. Great fights tonight. Shoutout to [HOPE] who always seems to be the one FA guild that sticks around even when they have the outmanned tag. You guys rock.
BT and VK: TRY HARDER on your BL to kill those naked K=towners. Hilarious. SMH.
It’s ok. If I was in RE and got wiped multiple times in my BL by BT, I would probably move to another BL too.
Speaking of which, did you change BL’s too? We saw a couple of you outside our spawn tower then suddenly you are outmanned here?
Wow! I want one of those!
So many sad faces in here! Sometimes when I’m feeling down I watch [PiNK]‘s latest video and remember at least someone is having fun out there! Keep up that fighting spirit and don’t let the score get ya down!
Lot of loll’s tonight in KNBL. Super Zergs on all sides smashing into each other for the last 2 hours ;P
Always crazy good fights in KNBL. That 3 way at our spawn was laggy, but it played out well.
This thread is going to get locked. Lets all think before we post.
None of it really matters. We play the map we’re given. You wanted to fight, we fought, and we had a lot of fun. Now you guys are outmanned and we are fighting Kain. So far, trying to crack our spawn tower while you guys we’re defending was the best fight of the night, so I regret nothing!

Did you guys get a bit impatient?