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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 1

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Explained the Lich attacks to the mob I decided to lead for the fun of it. 10-12 skeletons per spawn instead of 24. Same with people running into the wall feared. I am gaining the faith back.

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Labyrinthine Horror Mes solo

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Aha. Lucky I never got the cripple then, or maybe it was very short and I didn’t catch it.

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Labyrinthine Horror Mes solo

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I tried him a bit today, still never finished since I tried to fit hundred blades in too greedily/I agroed something along the way/a rampaging mob of lemmings found me on their way to enxt door.

Not enough to correlate the third torment stack and random bleed with dodging the attack though.

You know who this guy remind me of? He’s like a faster and less forgiving version of Leurent, minus the weapon throw and useless heal. Multi-hitting targetted attack (not sure if Horror’s is targeted ot stupid wide), condition pbaoe, gapecloser, have to alternate active and passive defences to do reasonable damage, at least from a warrior PoV.

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Labyrinthine Horror Mes solo

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Convincing. I’ll still have to do this myself though because reasons.

Being intoxicated each time I attempted this solo doesn’t help at all. An eventful week.

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Labyrinthine Horror Mes solo

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I still stand by saying his shout is dodgeable, just instant or almost instant, I can swear I dodged it whirlwinding at a set interval.

I’ll test that out tonight for myself hopefully, it gives me itches. Maybe I am wrong.

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 1

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Right, completely missed torment, mostly because it’s fairly harmless.

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 1

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Still, what’s the point of soloing something if all you do is kite around and throw axes? <.< It wasn’t fun at all. It was just me running around. Also, I hate undodgeable attacks.

I don’t think labyrinth bosses have undodgeable attacks. The low casting time on horror’s aoe torment makes it really hard to react to unless your ping is ideal but other than that everything is dodgeable.

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 1

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So I had some fun soloing the halloween bosses – to be exact, soloing the lich and the candy, then getting my butt handed to me by the labyrinthine horror. Urgh, I’m bad. He keeps kicking my kitten over and over with that greatsaw…
VROOM VROOM MOTHERKITTEN
Owell. So, I just get a quick mad king tower before leaving the labyrinth and that happens [screen]…
Like, 2 tries or something and you give up.
That’s my kazul! Behehe.
Dunno, I just found it rather funny. People literally freak out over the bosses and the jp.

I had a go at horror but it was mostly a Throw axe fest. Maybe it will be better when I’ll be more sober but his multi-hitting autoattacks don’t help at all.

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A few thing need to be fixed in Arah

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Let me explain for those who don’t know about ooze:

Ooze has 2 attacks, one at 50-400ish range ( the six bounces) and one at about 400 or 500 to 900 range ( the 3 bounces while moving, immediately followed by a melee attack if possible) ( numbers are totally guessed but that’s the point, one ranged attack and one close range attack), so if you go far enough, he has no set up attacks for your range, and since all his movment is paired with an attack, you can afk range it pretty much everywhere. Try it, just aggro the ooze, move a bit far, and facepalm.

The facepalm is real ;_;
Guess I’ll just continue to solo/duo up to the tar and fight the ooze normally…

Oh lawdy, that’s hilarious. But yeah, I do the same if I ever feel like doing the Jotun path, mostly because of the leashing on the way to crystalline golems, in a usual random group with no stealth or coordination, you tend to get a little army of oozes and drakes running around along with someone agroing the entities.

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A few thing need to be fixed in Arah

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There’s a new safespot for ooze?

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Change how NPC's aggro works.

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Nice build. I’ll see if I can do that build in ascended sometime in the future.

Exotic tier gear is absolutely fine and very cheap.

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 1

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inferior to Kraitkin

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 1

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It aint 84 though.

I once rerolled around 50 times to just hop there and see if there’s an illusionist. Nope, always berserker.

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Survival Dungeon

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Nightmare tower was a piece of cake once you figured it out. There was not a threat. It was fun, I liked it a lot, but calling it a hostile environment (at the very least more than other stuff present ingame) is too much

Now for the OP suggestion, a fixed scaling with fixed waves would end up in everyone asking for the best gear+classes+traits simply to reach the highest possible mark.

An idea of survival rather than completion is bound to cause gearing elitism. The thing is, current pure dps dungeon completion metagame is based off you know what i am too tired to complete this post today i have to go to sleep but you probably got my point nightynite

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 1

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So I decided to try casually pugging an arah p3 yesterday, everyone else tried skipping the four elites but couldn’t so they died, i started soloing hunter/crusher and i’m completely out of practice and my connection blows so I ended up eating the floor at like 80% twice in a row either from immobilise or because I completely forgot the aggro radius of the patrols near the boss and pulled them.

maybe i need to condemn myself to resetting every arah p2/3 fight for hours on end until i can go back to getting them right again as punishment :p

Are those even skipable without stealth? I mean, I never tried.

Also I sometimes die soloing those even with dogged march on, just so you can feel better.

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Carried Players

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I agree with that. There’s no need to act condescdening or rude to random people. Just kick the person if he is deaf to reason or leave yourself if things are going south.

I mean, expecting people you see for the first time in your life to be competent is pretty silly. And this sort of mentality is all over the online gaming, Guild Wars 2 is perhaps one of the most grief-free games even if we have our fair share.

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Imbued Shaman Solo War Possible?

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Given immobilize doesn’t stack anymore you’re gonna need chilled and or cripple as well. Chill on crit at night food maybe or something else I am missing, consumable or sigil. With that you should be able to squeeze second signet of might in.

A lot of ifs and I got interested but since there is no easy acces to fractals past t1 I won’t be able to test this nearly soon.

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 1

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I would love to see them make an impossible dungeon. 5 players surviving as long as they can. no retry from checkpoint once all players die game over and rewards based on levels survived

An idea that would work well and does work fairly well in plenty of gear-focused mmorpg.

An idea that would force actual elitism in GW2 given no rng present.

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 1

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Does Virtue of Justice passive proc off reflected hits?

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Imbued Shaman Solo War Possible?

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Long ago I soloed it to the same spot at level 1 fractal I think. I mostly did it to train dodging the agony arrow though so I didn’t bother but the adds were pretty bearable. So sub10, maybe even sub20 might be possible given you get past the shield.

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Imbued Shaman Solo War Possible?

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Try signet of the might with immobilize skills.

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Change how NPC's aggro works.

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A d/d thief. Drop aggro like nobody’s business. Why take the dmg when you can force your party take all the hits instead!

Everyone’s a tank when you say so, god bless the best profession.

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Carried Players

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Nope, you just have to know how to play your class and bam you’re an elitist.

Yep, you can’t tell a player to play as a valuable team member, that’s oppression. Thanks, Obama!

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[Fractal Changes] Suggestion

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Progress tracking is the problem and no backtrack, not the minimal chance.

There are 14 fractals.

Fractal skin crafts from 4 gifts, each gift is crafted via 4 parts. Boss gift is 3 boss fractal parts and an exotic weapon of preferred skin type, rest are 11 leftover fractals and gift of ascension. Each part has a chance to drop at the end of a fractal from the chest, chance depending on level.

Even something as simple would soothe the rage. Also add reason for communicating runs between friends since random fractals.

Chances could be reduced even further or weapon choice could be left rng-dependant with some way to backtrack.

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 1

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I once tried doing that thing on my guardian. Got absent minded, panicked during the transition, missed the wall and died.

Warriormind.

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 1

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I done gone all in.

http://puu.sh/c3Wj7/02629f8a63.jpg

Gonna take a whole lot of Arah solos to fill the void in my wallet.

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 1

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Kraitkin and Predator are the only correct choices.

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twight arbor.. which path ??

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Which bosses in other dungeons do you stack on and press 1 with nothing else?

Every if you’re a nomad’s mace guardian. Oh yeah.

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pug carrying profession

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I’d say thief but guardian is a popular opinion.

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pug carrying profession

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Engineer/Warrior for regular dungeons. First one does everything by himself, second just doesn’t give a flip and drags anything alongside.

The real question is which class does he enjoy playing the most.

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Gauging Interest: PUG Tournament

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He probably meant shatter.

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 1

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I keep screwing up my CM solo attempts, can’t win a game of Legue of Legends if my life depended on it, dropping all the way to plat4 and I can’t think of a job I would like to be employed at.

What’s worse I’m almost broke so I can’t buy alcohol to solve the problems above. kitten I’m failing at everything.

You sure you’re not experiencing packets loss?

If this was a joke it well flew over my head. Yes I do experience packet loss very often.

Also weird, I’ve transferred large sums of gold to different accounts in the past and mail rares, gold and materials from second account to main almost daily. Only get mail suppression when I send a lot of mails in a short amount of time and it wears off in minutes.

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[Fractal Changes] Suggestion

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Sound of hundreds of jimmies being rustled.

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 1

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I keep screwing up my CM solo attempts, can’t win a game of Legue of Legends if my life depended on it, dropping all the way to plat4 and I can’t think of a job I would like to be employed at.

What’s worse I’m almost broke so I can’t buy alcohol to solve the problems above. kitten I’m failing at everything.

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ele survival on fractals

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@Silmar. First thanks for those vids.
But I have a question for you. A question that I have been asking to myself lately.
I’d like to play ele on fractls, but I can’t survive with it. So, i) I could use some soldiers trinkets and keep all my blast finishers on my utilities bar. ii) I could keep full zerkers but I have to use defensive utilities… which means no might and fury for my party.

In i) I would lower my dps (to warrior level?) but I would still contribute to my party.
In ii) Whats the point in bringing an ele that doesn’t give might&fury?

Sry for my English.

Well, I’m not him, but in most of the cases you’d want to boost your party. I’d also recommend knight’s pieces for survival so you don’t get used to boosted hp pool and they generally scale better than soldier’s. Though getting used to higher armor value isn’t too good as well.

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ele survival on fractals

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Blind everything below champion. Though I don’t remember the blinds on ele except for the storm glyph. But yeah, blind the trash. Unless it’s dredge. Then you just pray they die faster than your party is out of defensive utilities.

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Gauging Interest: PUG Tournament

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So I’d want at least 5-10 minutes prior to each path to go over the intended strategies.

Yeah, I didn’t mean it like an instant start, but just not enough time to, uh, let’s say run the path with the group prior to the match. Time for a quick strategy overview and necessary equipment changes but nothing more.

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Gauging Interest: PUG Tournament

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IMO the teams and selected paths should be announced as close to the event start as possible to keep the random group spirit.

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Commander mode dungeons

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Well, I guess that makes some sense, ’tleast on a mesmer.

Though my way of fixing the possible issues in the Jotun path is to just solo it to Tar :^)

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Combat Game design criticism

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“AI is bad, make AI do things!” -> AI does more things, they still can be countered.

Honestly, where else is this supposed to go?

Do you want AI to start detecting your channel times and throwing interrupts at you or something?

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Commander mode dungeons

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No, I don’t understand what all of that is used for. That’s what I mean.

Well, judging by the entities remark I guess it’s to lessen the burning effect. I’d rather have the entitites die faster but well, mesmer isn’t exactly the king of direct damage.

I’m yet to see people having actual problems with the damaging stacks as well though, but eh. I guess everything happens.

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Dungeon owner sometimes required!

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I think anet should use our strats agaisnt us, if the npcs buff themselfs, blind, use reflects and other " active defence’ and even if some of them rushed us with the old FGS . . . . Well.. I geuss the game would become too hard for most people and alot of people would complain..

Ha!
:)
Now I sound elitest!

Player and NPC parties LoSing each other behind corners, waiting who will give in.

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Commander mode dungeons

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It’s okay. In Arah P1, I use Giver’s Armor.
Traited for Mantra’s and 3 Illusions (+dmg, -dmg, -mantracd, +toughness mantra charge, mantra heal, +speed). Drop 3 Clones targeting a Drake on the ground (used to use iLeap, now use PRetreat. Aim it so the clone gets LoS’ed.)

Utilities: Signet of the Ether, Stab Mantra, Cond Mantra, Dam Mantra, Time Warp

Spam mantra’s, don’t ever cast signet, use Time Warp when necessary.

Stagger Mantra of Pain charge up to be in between each other Mantra charge up.

Party-wide 1k/s heals. Personal 1.3k/s heals. 30% movespeed. -10% damage taken. +10% damage dealt (deal AoE damage through MoP). Constant +400 Toughness.

And then when all the Champion Entities are done, I swap back to the meta Assassin build.

I, uh… I don’t seem to understand what is all of that for.

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General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 1

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Nuuuu, don’t touch this thread. It seems to be the only sane place left within the Dungeons sub-forum. I run for shelter here when I get too much of the forum bingo.

It’s just a forum engine concern, noone is taking our sandpit.

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Commander mode dungeons

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What a wonderful and specific suggestion! But I feel it will be ignored along with my proposal to add a “Make me happy” button to Guild Wars 2.

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[suggestion] Change how daily rewards work

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That’s precisely what I just typed.

No, I meant you’re missing the point.

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antigaming path sellers

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stuff

Tbh by that logic I don’t see why do you visit dungeons in GW2 at all, if you do even.

A lot of personal preferences. Doesn’t lead to a healthy discussion about a present part of content, future maybe, but not already existing.

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[suggestion] Change how daily rewards work

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Not everybody can afford to log in every day…

I’m under the impression that that’s what this game was designed on.

Well then it’s horribly done, because it alienates those that cant every day, but have longer play times on certain days.
It also alienates a majority of those that can play everyday because a good portion of those run out of stuff to do that day because of how the game limits them.

I’ve been playing every day since release, I don’t see it.

You’re looking for Dungeon Tokens, yeah? Doesn’t Bag of Wondrous Goods still drop on repeat runs?

Completely missing the point.

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Fractal Thaumanova still bugged

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Worked for me yesterday. Was low level though, 2x but maybe it doesn’t matter.

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antigaming path sellers

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I feel that some dungeons, like Arah, are dominated by path sellers.

And just like others I will assure you that it’s just a baseless feeling.

I genuinely feel that Arah is a very unpleasant ride. I wish it was more fun to do.

And for many of us it’s one of the most fun things to do in the game. Even if my GW2 gameplay nowadays is mostly casual WvWing and afking world bosses I still visit Arah once in a while.

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