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By adding a minimum range to wall of reflection – you risk bugging many things (e.g. casting wall via skill bar will drop on the guardian itself : range = 0). I think you understimate the amount of effort required to change this.
Have chatted with many ANET on this (and Lupi mechiancs) – and its not an easy fix as you may imagine.
Its still present – I had this yesterday.
Its a full client crash (not code 7) with send to ANET Logs – everyone in the instance crashs.
50% of the time this instance crash’s – it hit me on lvl 30. Our lvl 40 was fine – same strategy. I have had 2 crashs in two days doing FoTM – so I can safely say it is not fixed.
We had just cleared the skritt to activate the next dialog sequence and boom crash near the main console. Dont know if this helps – we all blinked to the top (shadow step / light flash / merc intervention).
Perhaps if this can be disabled from the sequence for more testing – pretty bad to get which then crashs an entire FoTM chain.
We also have found the only thing that helps:
- There is one player whos game doesnt full crash but the client interface goes fully nuts on them (cannot be easily closed even with CTRL+ALT+DEL).
- All other players get error codes to send back to ANET
If you are on teamspeak – the person with the game interface which goes nuts is still in the instance. The players with error codes can restart GW2 – and get back into the same instance. Once this has been completed the players whos game has gone nuts can then restart their PC and then get into the instance.
This is definitly a big bonus to being on teamspeak when doing this buggy FoTM.
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Forget dx11 support dx12.
Even on older Gpus this is supported and the game is completely CPU bound, dx12 helps reduce the cpu usage drastically. Dx11 will offer no real benefit at all in performance.
There are threads already calling for dx12 support so we can get more than the 12 fps at large world boss events.
Same here.. Prob streaming from last one I guess?
Seems irony was missed in the post.
Congrats !
Nice to see a necro in the team.
Hi All,
A new update.. just to show it can be done:
Ferroignis (Ele) – [Rag]
Artemis Thuras (GuarD)- [MYTH] (Twitch: http://www.twitch.tv/artemisthuras/b/659422246 – approx start: 29 mins – we’ll create a youtube out of it later to keep you happy ;-). YouTube: https://youtu.be/FMZr-cQvmzg
Reves De Feu (Ele)- [MYTH]
Cellisia The Strong (War) – [MYTH]
A New Home [MYTH] (Thief) – POV: (Youtube: https://youtu.be/08SB2UiiFwk)
— The F11 is at the end of the path.
Timed Run: 4.20 (There is no current ‘valid’ record).
So does this qualify?
Given the current rules – the video is a ‘lot’ cleaner.
We will try an upload better POVs in the future – but some of us use old potatoes which are running at 100% GPU ( :_( ).
Go on – get out there.. go post some times on the current build.. lets get the party going !
Many Thanks,
A New Home [MYTH]
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Fine we’ll do something about it- but rules are there for a reason.. They need to exclude this stuff and clarify it.
Its not a reason to not look at it imo.
The initial post is quite simple: Who knows does this qualify for the record?
We have put up the youtubes – given a link to the exact start point
The F11 point on the youtube -given exact http link to that point too.
The timers are there (it is a clock start/end) – putting a ‘go’ start timer on a video is probably beyond me (and would require a 2nd monitor from my end – which I do not have). I have an old potato PC.
Lead by your example and I’m sure others will follow.
Seriously – lets get this back without the emotion. These posts are less than helpful.
TL;DR: There is no obligation. The whole system is based on good faith and respect which you have already broken on your end.
Do we really want to go down this route ?
- Or do we want to take a much higher path.
Rising gave you a reason. We cant verify the time with the quality of those videos. Not to mention the other issues.
Im happy to accept a record that is submitted properly. Instead of complaining and accusing us of corruption why dont you record another run? Its not like you put any effort into this one so there should be no issue with recording a second surely?
What we sat there and spammed one – there was no effort?
- We even exported out to youtube and put the start location so you could jump strait to it.
If you really want to start a video at a start time -
Here from the full-tour video of the stream which we uploaded to youtube:
https://youtu.be/KEUIQEP45YI?t=14m7s
The ‘version’ number from the full-tour video:
https://youtu.be/KEUIQEP45YI?t=1h
The go-to functionality on youtube could not be simplier.
Notes about this run:
- Twitch VODs can only be used as video evidence if they are cut down to just the path being approved. We can’t tell people viewing the records on the website to “start at X:XX and end at Y:YY”, and therefore we will not approve from them.
- There is no timer and the video is twitchy. I cannot properly time the run because it’s unclear if frames were being skipped by whatever program formatted the video. Furthermore, the time of the YT video doesn’t match the times of the VODs… So something is weird here and I cannot approve this in its current form. Note, in case you’re curious, this issue creates a violation of Rule #1 in all record formats.
Hopefully that addresses all questions.
We have been totally transparant about the slightly shortened run of the 4m38s as a seperate video as someone moved (by accident) and we waited for a reset. We are not even asking that as the time. The Timers (clocks) actually match here completly between the VOD (short video) and the twitch streams.
There is no violation of Rule #1 – as we are not even asking for the 4m38s run to be the proof.
We are taking the time from the complete tour which is slower as per the twitch streams.
On the 3-man run – I think it could easily be promoted to a ‘record’ run if its been recorded as such. In fact it would be glorious for people to know people still do this stuff like this on a frequent basis.
Apologies – there is a timer – the only bit that twitches is the UI.
From the RULES:
1) For a record to be valid, the time must be faster than the current record displayed and the record must be accompanied by a video for evidence/proof; one point of view is sufficient.
a. Videos may not be sped up or slowed down, and must be captured in normal time.
You must display the game build at some point in your video to show when your run was done. This can be done before, during, or after the run. You can do this by showing your F11 (options) menu at some point in your video.c. There must be at least one PoV that shows what’s going on within the dungeon, from start to finish. If at any point there is no video evidence of activities within the run, it’ll be denied.
The timer remains stable at all times.
What you are suggesting here about cut down to just the path being approved – is just additional rules – which are great for progressing a system moving forward.
We also have the guardian POV (for the twitch stream without any flickers) which honestly suffices and can verify build from the other twitch stream.
I’m hearing a lot of excuses.
Thats why I also exported it to youtube (its finished processing) – have fun.
This thread has at least helped iron out a few technical difficulties and the reasons why – which is great for the discussion.
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Twitch is valid apart from the fact that i cannot watch it myself without it freezing and skipping every second. So i personally cannot approve it. I cannot force someone else to do it either. And i dont fancy sifting through a huge vod of a whole tour just for an f11 with glitchy vod playback..
- Its going to be glitchy as I’m playing on a wooden potato (hell my UI sometimes flashs as a recording mechanism).
- Please enlighten me why youtube is better than Twitch? (I dont see any difference)
—> We are exporting it to the youtube and its taking time to process (not much I can do about that)
If you are really genuinely interested in submitting a record why dont you record a CM p3 on your next tour with the rules in mind? That way you make it easier for us by giving us all the info and you avoid all the complaints.
Im personally uncomfortable about using my free time to approve half ***ed records just because theres no prev record posted. And there are others who dont seem to like it either. Were being put in an uncomfortable position with this.
The rules need better clarification – hell I’m a noob and know this but come on we’re going to have HOT & New Trait resets coming in soon.
I would if i could. But i cant watch twitch vods and i cant see the f11. If they want to re-submit it properly with all the info then they are free to do so. I recommend creating a new thread for that.
Rather than creating a new thread – and getting a lot more discussion.
I have edited the thread to include the full tour which we have exported from the Twitch stream.
I didn’t ever see anything about ‘it has to be a youtube’ video and not a twitch stream (which is also a video). Perhaps this needs clarification for people ?
Let me tell you a secret… Trading post barons make the most gold/HR.
I’m sorry it wasn’t less than 3 mins- but there are two categories of records ‘all time’ and ‘current’.
I see two sides to this :
1) people who are denying this to even be reviewed as its a mediocre run (but compared to any pug run out there it is kitten good).
2) people who are stating that it should be reviewed and are getting ignored.
It has been near 24 hours and people have the opportunity to have done another run since we posted in the rules required and easily beaten this time.
I remember when <5 mins was a good time for any path.
If videos are not going to be reviewed or rules changed and psuedo guessed times after changes to build. This to me is flatly corrupt .
I remember times being beaten and competition being healthy after new builds released.
Bumping… We are still recruiting and training..
You can check out our runs which are now being broadcast on twitch:
Artemis Utem [MYTH] (Guard) http://www.twitch.tv/artemisthuras
A new home [MYTH] http://www.twitch.tv/anewhomegw2
Our dungeon runs have been improving significantly check out the YouTube for some of our highlights from our daily runs
From what I can tell the last record was 11-26-2014 for this path.
I am pretty certain a stability nerf and skill changes happened between then and now.
I think if there is discussion on how existing records become invalid that should be somewhere else. To be honest I expect this to be beaten and should be. I know records in gw1 were frequently redone on each patch / major change.
Don’t think we broke any restricted rules or unrestricted rules.
I didn’t see anything about mini-pets either in any set.
Nike – I have no idea what the rules are for restricted or unrestricted.
It would take an expert to know the rules or really where to find them (I’m not an expert in understanding the rules either).
All I remember is if you have mini pets with you (which I love) – its always an unrestricted run unless something changed ?
Hi All,
I’m pretty certain teams compromising of a pugs with a few friends in a co-ordinated manner using sub-standard potions/food/weapons should not be setting good times like this as part of a relaxed daily dungeon tour.
Just had a look at the dungeon record runs – and it seems there are no ‘valid’ CM unrestricted records for P3 (5 man teams).
Team:
Ferroignis [Rag] (Ele)
Reves DeFeu [MYTH] (Ele)
Vinc Warrior [VSG] (War)
Artemis Utem [MYTH] (Guard) http://www.twitch.tv/anewhomegw2/v/4996717
(Start: 09.15 : End: 14.10 = 4 min 55s)
A New Home [MYTH] (Thief) http://www.twitch.tv/artemisthuras/b/658807885
(Start: 14.07: End- 19.02 = 4 min 55s)
OR on YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEUIQEP45YI (This is the tour)
If you really want to start a video at a start time -
Here from the full-tour video of the stream which we uploaded to youtube:
https://youtu.be/KEUIQEP45YI?t=14m7s
The ‘version’ number from the full-tour video:
https://youtu.be/KEUIQEP45YI?t=1h
The go-to functionality on youtube could not be simplier ;-)
[Version number of game build in A New Home stream – 1 hr into the tour]
Compressed short video is here: https://youtu.be/fAj7C_PstMM (The run is about 4m 38s – this is after we’ve waited for everyone to reset)
Who knows?
Thanks for viewing.
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We can often 3 man FoTM 50 or 4 Man – depends whos on… so we decided to see if anyone wanted to buy the slot?
Nothing wrong with that.. often its better to take no extra people and not carry people through a dungeon. Sometimes its just easier 3 or 4 man ;-)
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It’s borked.
Someone forgot to connect the piece of string from the internet to the servers?
Or did a mice chew the cables?
As people above have stated.. its ‘borked’ – code 42
You have to look at the full leaderboard..even now it is broken:
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It is borked.
Is this a per-player problem? Or is the entire leaderboard frozen for periods of time?
It’s the entire leaderboard which remains frozen for all players..worst I have seen it is for 15-16 hrs not updating, Whatever the automated process is for updating the leaderboards fails to update the basic information for all players. The timer for the update also reflects many hours in the past.
Mossman does attack underwater .. Didn’t you see the memo?
Time to do something else… I hear the weather is improving outside.. I may even venture out to that scary place.
I can provide video proof of this !
Happy to give logs / outputs- definitely hit in the December patch.
My potato is:
I7 920 OC to 3.8ghz, Gtx 260
— dps drops to about 10 fps (possibly 0) when hitting B and quickly goes back up to 60 for.
Fix the automated leaderboard score update !!
It is erratically updating – which is frustrating to say the least.
As the last poster hinted has not updated for 15 hrs.
All will be forgiven if you allow us to click on our name and drill down and see the following:
Each match played, who played in the match,what professions each person played. % chance of winning,points gained/loss, byes, forfeits broken down over a week period.
Think of it like a sports history with full information supporting the current state.
The difference in times with/without are minor- we are talking a few seconds for a 5 man team at best.
It resizes based upon your character model.
A size 18 model looks differently wearing the same dress compared to a size 0 model. 
what class(es) do you play? have you never done something like… switch to elixir U for ac p2 end boss orrrr se p1 3 champs cuz party has no guardian?
I play necromancer exclusively. Granted, we don’t have a whole lot of builds to choose from.
— I think this explains why this person has a limited rosy view of the world.
Get out an obsession with death or the dead. — necromaniac and explore the world !
I play multiple classes: guardian, war, thief, ele, necro etc – and I realise just how bad necro is when compared to the other classes.
This move by a net was one in my opinion of desperation.
They have designed hot based upon sw/Dt based upon these type of map mechanics…
Do events get a certain thing to kill and a day/night cycle (similar to sandstorm or breech event type basis). So they want people who are interested in these type of maps to test the beta and give favourable feedback on what they have done so far. (my feedback on playing the last beta was scathing as it’s honestly looking a truly grindy horror show). The idea of open world events/maps to be is horrific as there is very little control of bads to get a good outcome.
DTOP/SW were only populated as it was the fastest way for some players to get gold (chests) rather than actually be interested in the map. The RNG hooks of Coat boxs/ amber fossils have truly wore off for most people. If more gold making zones arrive these areas will die off even more !
The beta key drop was a player idea on the forum from someone who didn’t get. The email invite – RNG is a truly cruel mistress of giving anything out. Looked at it for 20 hrs in these maps and my hate for drot/silver pastes has only but increased as a result.
Do we like this method of access? No.
Does anet need favourable reviews of people who like dtop/sw as hot is based off this? Yes.
Okay- having some very wierd FPS Drops – more than usual.
PVP Lobby – 30-45 fps (standing in one spot): at the portal
After a match… 15 fps (standing in same spot).
I can stand at a wall (away from people) – used to get 60 fps – now getting 35 fps.
Just played a pvp match where I was averaging 25 fps – i usually get 60 fps solid during the match.
The only major change is the last patch – what changed?
Okay – its now fixed whatever it was.. seems like it lasted a couple of hours for a few of us (not sure what happened – must have been a backend change thats just ‘now fixed’)
Hi Anet,
After todays update – I am suffering a major FPS Drop – this is regardless of zones.
The major test I have found is in dungeons – I would be at 60 FPS (v-sync) and now running in dungeons @ 25 FPS.
FPS in TA Aether (Fast Paths) – approx 25 FPS (usually 50 FPS+)
ARAH – between 60 – 45 FPS.
^^ The above does not look right ?
GPU Usage is also down compared to normal – something has changed. I’m on a desktop PC with dedicated GPU – running GPUZ : I can see the %utilised is lower than normal. The GPU Memory utilised is also lower than usual.
Not sure what – could you have a look into this please?
Many Thanks
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Thank you for the fix.. I understand it may be new functionality that is now allowing you to disable an individual fractal from a rotation.
Good qudos anet for implementing something like this !
Insta fix - please disable this fractal choice in the rotation?
This hopefully can be a better hot fix and allow fractals to progress - it’s the only "hard" content left in the game tbh.
I connect from the EU to a NA server : ping avg is ~140-150ms.
Connection is pretty stable tbh.
Walking or Running forward ?
It seems to be my most used skill.
After that its my eyes (looking for things) and ears (listening for things/tells/skills being used). ;-)
“stats in a game are supposed to represent how you build yourself.”
- wrong. This is not a RPG MMO more an action mmo.
I can play defensively all day by running around in big circles at 600-900 range with perma swiftness ! I am now the master of defense ?
I find it funny how many meta-mentality players think zerker stacking is the ultimate playstyle for dungeons, and other equipments are just a ladder until you get “pro”. This is completely wrong, how come you trash all other gear in a game that has no treadmill? Cleric should have its place, it should be wrong to have a full zerker party. It simply trashes all itemization, which is a core fundamental part of RPGs.
Why should clerics have a place? — Justify please.,
This is not a RPG it is an Action MMO (e.g. Like a first person shooter with lots of players).
If you think its RPG – play another game.
No what I’m seeing is PHIWs being extremly rude.
You’re telling us how to play tigaseye and quite frankly – I will PHIW and you PHYW – problem solved.
Knowing how to play a class properly is exactly like a tool in life – anyone can spam 1 !
(Well some people cant even do that properly – but thats besides the point).
This is why PROS and PHIWs dont mix.
PHIWs – must realise they want to improve there game and get fed up from their own inexperience and step up there game.
Some people may find it ‘fun’ making every mistake in the book – and learning for themselves. Imagine learning a new language without going to a teacher and calling the most beautiful person you have met something absolutly horible as you ‘learnt’ for yourself and failed to get taught.
You’re free to PHIW – but seriously its not the devs fault or the players fault – everything will always be boiled down to a more specific method to speed things up.
Its not wrong to offer advice – if a run is going badly and its obvious people are playing really badly to change things up. If you’re spending twenty mins on a boss and still not killing him – something has to change.
Often new players will have three reactions:
1) GET LOST – I dont want to learn – I will kick you if you try to tell me how to do something. I dont want to be told what to do – I have enough of that from work/parents/school (insert any other excuse) for being a kitten .
2) Silently think thank-you !! I was too embarassed to ask how to improve and wont say anything but be releived they finally got past x,y,z.
3) Ask in chat – what can we do differently to defeat x,yz, what we’re doing now isnt working.
Unfortunatly I see more of type (1) than (3) – and plenty of (2)’s.
Its absolutly fine for pros to refuse to play with noobs !
— This happens in all walks of life. You dont play grandmaster chess players vs a noob (As the grandmaster learns nothing and the noob just gets defeated).
Why do you think forcing people with different levels of skills results in harmony or should be mandatory is beyond me.