Guild Wars 2

BG + SoR vs JQ… It will not ever happen unless major guilds who in control most of commanders sit down and make a deal together. Still the bad blood run deeps, SoR folk hate BG in blood so yea… Along with the attitude of “Let just go for easier PPT”, that will keep 2nd fight with 3rd all the time.

BG + SoR can 2v1 JQ in one condition without any arrangement that is when on wednesday SoR or BG score is within 10-15k to JQ so they (SoR/BG) are forced to engage JQBL as well as JQ’s FOO will be contained in JQBL to avoid their defeat. Even then there are many factors that will screw this up (e.g. BG’s focus either SoR or JQ).

The match we won JQ, we didnt focus on SoR for more PPT. We let SoR live on their map first, and use all our means to fill EBG/BGBL/JQBL first. (Unless we have spare man to SoRBL) We did able to pull massive amoung of attendance because people see there is hope. If by Wednesday score difference are like these, the competition that you guys want will never ever happen. You need to keep JQ score close to you by not killing each other SoR/BG until then.

elderan.2638:

Any chance we can get an update of this information? I’d be interested to see what the queue times look like since transfers have closed.

Me also want update on this as well! Any Dev can provide us?

Vodka.3958:

Tajz.9826:

Blackgate still look for the transfer on all timeslot to strengthen our team against JQ/SoR at any timeslot (NA/EU/Oceanic/SEA). Queue problem?, It’s almost no existance here, and you will always have maps without queue to put your entire team in.

If you want to arrange a meeting with our Blackgate council and have a feeling on how our main guilds work, let me know, we can sort it out too prior to your decision.

Transfer to Blackgate, we offer you a chance to play as the underdog & fight some overly stacked servers with the best guilds in the game!

Tbh we’re not really underdog as the score aint that far lower than SoR :P, plus we aint going tier2 anytime soon due to rating ga kitten table now! However we need more transfers for those who looking for challenging tier1 WvW communities, Blackgate is home for you!

We’re still recruiting for any transfers at any timeslot. PM me if u have any question regarding Blackgate or want to setup a meeting with our Blackgate guilds

Blackgate still look for the transfer on all timeslot to strengthen our team against JQ/SoR at any timeslot (NA/EU/Oceanic/SEA). Queue problem?, It’s almost no existance here, and you will always have maps without queue to put your entire team in.

If you want to arrange a meeting with our Blackgate council and have a feeling on how our main guilds work, let me know, we can sort it out too prior to your decision.

Talmor.9048:

No real issue over here other than once and this was before the culling was removed. Never have had a problem. Plus I am on a Tier 3 server that can have some pretty big fights during NA prime time.

I guess that “big fight” you said isnt big enough to make a skill lag :P What we’re talking about is like 70+ vs 70+. Sometimes, it’s even become 70+ vs 70+ vs 70+ in one BL. That happens every single time the fight occur cause it’s become a trend at least in tier1/2 that more stacking in one big zerg ball is “pure win”.

Anet has two choice now:
1) Fix their server to get rid of skill lag (I think they need to upgrade their servers => cost wise)
2) Implement something that force people not to clump together as one big ball of 70+ ppl zerg. Things like increase AoE cap to 10. Or Debuff that increase dmg taken if more than 30 ppl stacks together etc, Or increase defense of normal gate so that people just cant big ball normal hit zerg the gate… (This way it might flavor AoE class but make single target class useless)

I’m sure skill lag is not really that simple with the culling or the spell graphic. It is the calculation itself, things like crap tons of debuff calculation on crap tons of 100 ppl zerg. Also it happens to the entire borderlands, evenif u stay at the spawn camp, if there is a big fight with 150+ ppl fighting together, there will be massive skill lag. Thus,there is no way to fix easily as long as people still stack together as one tight group. You need to “Change the metagame” of WvW in order to solve this skill lag problem.

But really something need to be done. Nobody enjoy play with skill lag. Nobody enjoy getting their keeps wiped repeatly by one big ball of zerg that just normal hit the down gate…

Yes i dont see why is it so fun of these trolls trying to make BG look bad. You arent getting anything out from it.

In case BG drop a tier, TC?KN?, Both been lost to BG before (even before we received SoS guilds) by miles. Yes may be BG coverage drops recently but TC/KN coverage is no where near BG. TC lacks SEA and KN lacks NA (Both lacks EU as well). They’re arent going to surprise you or provide you with better competition than what BG try their best to provide you here.

SoR win BG now? Congrat, Good for them. I’m glad finally they start picking up their pace and i’m looking forward for the day SoR can take a win from JQ too.

Now this isnt really a race for first anymore. (Since JQ has way too many people compared to BG/SoR) It’s a race for survival. (Because WvW patch already been implemented) Which servers that are able to retain most guilds participation/WvW interest will win in months to come.

Keep it up Zombie Coast. My bet is on you

Hoots.9564:

Amazing how many hours and time BG has to pour into WvW just to stay competitive in T1. Everyone claimed SoR went out in force last week but in reality we played normal hours on a normal schedule and still beat BG. JQ on the other hand lost one week from the try-hard BG and went out in force last week, but the end result I’m sure showed JQ’ers that its not even required to go full force to take BG out. I’m starting to think that BG as a server does not understand how the elo system works, when you push for 1st and then come back the week after and not maintain the same ppt/end result, you end up losing points. This week it looks as if they are gonna push for 1st again, which again makes no sense with the current system because they will not be able to maintain 1st in t1 with JQ around. Might be time for BG to start playing smart, and within there own limts. At this point BG is shaping up to be the next server to burn themselves out with all this try-hard they are doing. Hint the fact JQ and SoR are taking bets on how long BG can survive in T1

We dont play ELO, we play to win. If that’s cause some burnout on some weeks, so be it. At least we were able to won JQ once already. SoR should try the same and not being scare of hitting JQ at their own borderland. Still I love how you people always say SoR has so awesome skill all the time :P, Same O’ SoR style.

I believed we need a confirmation from Dev here please. (But those screenshots proved what we believed btw, thanks!)

Good stuff! I proposed this similar idea before too but now Anet acknowledged it.
I hope they put a fix to this name tag swamp fast.

I knew there are many suggestions on this but i really would like Anet to at least response to one of these helpful suggestions.
I dont want all those red nametag/title clogging my screen for weeks! Barely see anything!

Dear Anet,
I have a very best suggestion for the name tag issue
See the problem from this attached picture? The name tags actually flooded all including enemy nametag and friendly nametag.

What i proposed:
-Shorten nametag: Says Black Gate Invader [Thai] => BG Invader [Thai], Sanctum of Rall Invader [CHOO] = SoR Invader [CHOO] etc.
-Turn off enemy/friendly title option I dont really wanna see 100x Combat healer text on my screen both on my foe and my friend. It really serve no purpose.

I guess this help your Dev team in case they havent thought this out yet

Please bump this up if u think it’s good idea to implement.

New vid: Featuring the SEA primetime night before Blackgate secured the first tier1 win!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlLH_Xj-s8k

If i have already wait for 3 months for them to fix WvW and all we get is “Karma Temple/Dungeon set Gears”, Crap WXP ranking/abilities and Client side culling fix, then may be we’re done here.

I have no idea why they think “WvW Reward” can be equilvalent to Dungeon set gears or Karma Temple gears, we all already got those items! Come on,… where is the ascended WvW item you promised?

They also admitted at one point that Culling fix is not include Skill lag. Meaning if they manage to get culling fix done, skill lag prolly still prevail…

Ah, what a bad sign. I hope i better take a chill pill and wait/see tonight.

I will add some informative comments for you to understand each server SEA coverage from my point of view. (SEA only, not Oceanic)
JQ – Highest Coverage of all server. FOO guild alone can field up to 50+ zerg themselves, not to mention they have many more.
BG – Second best SEA coverage of all server. We have Thai,Urge (Philiplines),ND (Korean), ND (HK/Taiwan/China), MERC (Australian), IIB operate in this timezone. And we coorperate with each others via server teamspeak with commander whisper list to call for help/arrange a plan if required.
SoR – The least SEA coverage of all tier1 server. I would say they have barely no SEA. (or a few) Sometimes they can field some people but most of them prolly overtime NA.
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KN – I would say they’re 3rd best SEA coverage of entire server. Due to the fact that they have WM (Warmachine) guild in this timezone. They alone can field 40-60+ ppl zerg as well combining with some RE and another guilds. Definitely very strong SEA presence here.
FA – I would say they have the least SEA coverage on tier2.
TC – They have some SEA but not a lot. Still i think they’ve better SEA coverage than FA, talking about tier2.

Still, i would like you to consider our Blackgate server as your option if you like tier1 and want a challenge for your team. We’re willing and looking forward for a key small strike team in this timezone. Of course not everybody know how important a small group of organized players can do but we know how important you can do Let join Blackgate, and have fun! I can guarantee you that! Our SEA team can also organize a small meeting with your guild leader/rep in case you want to know more about Blackgate and how we operate.

About tier2 falldown crap, guys it’s still monday. The point gap BG to SoR is only 10,000. Kaineng also hasnt get that much point to be able to leap to Tier1. No one is going to fall to tier2 this week for sure.

Also the JQ ram trolls, obviously nobody know who he is from. Is he from BG to help BG win? Is he from SoR who want to detrone JQ? Is he from JQ who obviously want a foul BG? Is he from somewhere else who hate JQ? The possibility is limitless so stop throwing random accusation to BG without a proof. Surely BG people do not want to support this kind of act.

And give us BG some rest Last week had loads of long stress nights for us. We took it 150% force of the entire server to guarantee the win. For now, take a chill pill and wait, i promise BG will be back in full operation soon enough I cant wait to farm my WXP ranking on tuesday btw!

In fact, if BG really cared about being fair, they would have taken measures such as retreating when they see flame ram shrines in JQ’s keeps. However, on the contrary, I believe they were quite happy to take advantage of the situation

In fact, we destroyed your rams for you when we were able to get into the keep. Excuse whatever you want, but the real man will only said “GG&Congrat! We’ll see you again next week”

Enjoy our new latest vid! Featuring last night decisive SEA Primetime fight with JQ & SoR!

Last night was one of the most fun night i ever had. With all the circumstance, we’re able to rally up a lot of our guildies joined us in SoRBL. Hope you guys having fun too, especially CDS (SoR) and EMP/FOO (JQ) whom was our main rival guilds in SoRBL last night

Congrat to all Blackgate guilds and civilians, you guys really deserved! And special prop to MERC/ND for strengthen up our lacking Oceanic force ,which has become huge part of Blackgate’s current success today.

To JQ/SoR, keep up good fighting and be a good sportmanship! But this is just a prelude pre WvW major patch Regards to the ram troll, im sure no one in Blackgate want it to happen. We also had been suffered from ram trolls, keep exploits as well in past week and we knew how it feel.

PS: Video coming soon!

wish.3102:

Veritas.4792:

Fully repaired walls + gates and completely sweeped hours ago.. :O

No guild tags this time also..

Well this is strange.

How else did you guys get in?

People say they sweep towers/keeps all the time when I’m still hiding in them, I find that comment to be laughable. BUT if it had really been “hours” since you took it back, and no gates/walls were down, I would definitely call shenanigans on JQ, and I really hope people on my server aren’t resorting to exploiting into towers/keeps to take them. I really don’t think anyone has the ability to sit inside a keep/tower for 3+ hours doing nothing but spamming invisible skills waiting for that chance to take it… That is beyond ridiculously boring, I can barely do it for 30 minutes before I get bored and start looking to kill people and cause trouble so I can have a fun Monty Python moment.

Well i dunno what you try to defend your server mate. But here was another incidence around the same time with the same group of ppl. Surely we saw them wall jump the mesmer and just port this guys up. Not to mention a super ninja at Dawn tier3 keep with no corpse lying. It’s a wall jump exploit mesmer.

Usually i do not want to blame JQ for this exploit kitten as it’s individual group of players doing this however they kept doing this wall jump exploits several times tonight at various places during SEA prime so yea…

muekung.2518:

Tajz.9826:

Peetee.9406:

because you know you can’t compete with JQ despite having even numbers.

I would love to see how you measured BG has “even numbers” with JQ… Are you Anet’s part-time staff? Or else it’s just a random rant without proof from same Ol’SoR.

How about Oceanic prime time ? you know… our afternoon – early night hour.
oh, Nirvii. your guild should stop doing guild mission daily and rally more people to WvW.

Well, one thing to keep in mind, [Thai] is PvX Guild, not pure WvW guild. Seriously i do hope the WvW culling fix and the ranking will make us improve our attendance on daily basis. Right now we really dont have manpower to match FOO and JQ’s SEA especially during weekday.

Once we are able to get some manpower up to certain degree, then we can face JQ’s headon, otherwise, it will become just a cat and mouse game :P

Peetee.9406:

because you know you can’t compete with JQ despite having even numbers.

I would love to see how you measured BG has “even numbers” with JQ… Are you Anet’s part-time staff? Or else it’s just a random rant without proof from same Ol’SoR.

Where is the lolcat score update? I need to hire him to tier1’s thread. I need some cats for JQQueue and SoR too.

morrolan.9608:

Tajz.9826:

Habib Loew.6239:

I predict that a blog post will be going up very soon

Habib, Dont forget there is “Skill lag” issue as well, not just culling. It’s actually skill culling lol. Usually happens when many players at the same spot. You cant press any skills at all for like 5sec up to 30sec… That’s just WvW gamebreaking problem needed to be fix along with model culling.

Odds are that the skill lag issue won’t be fixed in the patch, after all it only became an issue when they started putting the culling fixes in the game.

Yea “Skill lag” only become issue once they use the new culling model which is they put the culling limit off. My theory is that once they put the culling limit off, yes model is loaded but there are more “data transmitting”. And i supposed they have the data transmitting cap, thus once there are so many people around with all models/effect loaded, the skill we use aint get transmitted due to the data network capping.

I hope the culling fix will resolve this by making the data sending less from those models that aint load. Thus might as well be able to fix this Skill lag/Skill culling on process. I really hope Anet realised this skill lag problem too not just model culling. It’s even worse than model lag because you cant press any freaking skills.

For Those who had missed my latest video Please comment if there are rooms to improve for my video editing! Featuring some WvW fights with CHOO&FOO and epic Hill’s lord room defense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay67XbhhUec

Habib Loew.6239:

I predict that a blog post will be going up very soon

Habib, Dont forget there is “Skill lag” issue as well, not just culling. It’s actually skill culling lol. Usually happens when many players at the same spot. You cant press any skills at all for like 5sec up to 30sec… That’s just WvW gamebreaking problem needed to be fix along with model culling.

imalog.7689:

Tajz.9826:

Tell Jang Gun, WM that Tier1 has JQ’s FOO for his challenge. Get up here and fight them! They’re very strong, and from our point of view, may be on par or even stronger than WM. You gotta come up here and prove :P

I can wait to see epic matchup of FOO vs WM vs MERC. It will be insane, as well as a good reason to slowdown JQ’s SEA domination for us.

Go go go! Beat TC and FA and reign in tier1

WM came from T1. SBI

I knew but that was long time ago. Everything changed. FOO that day isnt FOO today.
Thai Alliance that day isnt Thai Alliance today either :P

Pinkus.2860:

wish.3102:

Trikki.5803:

Only thing about Teir I really don’t like is being hit by a 60+ person Oceanic/SEA JQ PVDoor zerg you can’t do anything to stop, kinda takes the fun out of it. Surely its not fun for you guys just rolling everything with no threat apart from a group that is half or less than your number.

Ok lets make a deal, you stop attacking us with your massive zergs when we’re undermanned, (night time-early morning EST, and in the middle of the day EST) and we’ll quit rolling over your Oceanics when they actually have even numbers.

EDIT: It can be hard to see here, but to me it really looked like an even fight, sea of blackgates was just very spread out and got crushed. Beyond what appeared to me to look like an even fight, is the fact that these mostly Merc and ND people actually charged the FOO crew 3 or 4 times in the 3~ hours I played this morning. Which leads me to believe they actually thought they could win, so they must of had decently even numbers. But regardless of that, these people had more than enough numbers wise to hold onto a fully upgraded garrison on their own BL map for more than 15 minutes I would think. FOO and crew didnt even try, they just dropped rams and crushed these guys and flipped garrison in about 15 minutes. It would of been less but you’d be amazed how many Warriors SOB fields that run that banner to res the keep lord.

Is this showing the strat where you stack 60 people in one spot and just spam regen and cleansing and headbutt the door to death? Seen that numerous times from Waha and his band of merry men. Pro strats will always be pro

This video was how we dealt with FOO I bet Waha Foo yelled “ kitten #8221; in taiwanese/mandarin :P [No offense to FOO, u guys are great guild, we got wiped by you several times too but this is our vid so sorry for selected shots :P]

I believed we all do hate the bald guy. FOO is like WM x2 but we can stop WM, so can we to FOO. It’s just required less openfield, more chokepoint and more arrowcarts if you have far less numbers than them. Sad thing is that they usually flip everything and leave you with paper door and no time to place sieges lol. Attendance still matter though, you need more than 20 man coordinated zergs to handle them properly.

We’re also await for those ranking and stuff hoping to get more numbers to the field. The BL/map cap is the same, so the WvW reward will benefit both BG/SoR more than JQ to boost up attendance across the board, i hope.

Enjoy! I love tower defense at hill [:)] Featuring CHOO&FOO&THAI

Enjoy! I love tower defense at hill [:)] Featuring CHOO&FOO&THAI

Wow unbelieable hold inside our hill on SoRBL tonight. FOO & Choo were decided to have a barbeque party both at our lord room lol.
Sadly the party had been called off as FOO decided to golem rush our BGBL garrison made us ported there to witness another awesome defense from BG at garrison

We always yelled “Bald guy (Waha Foo) is here!” and he’s like 9 life cat where ppl just put instant res necro on him :P

GJ so far guys, we’re having fun! Epic video incoming!

Good fight in EBG tonight for both JQ/SoR during SEA prime. JQ, you guys just keep coming back with ton of mass zerg lol. Hope you enjoy the fun [Thai] giving you tonight

Tell Jang Gun, WM that Tier1 has JQ’s FOO for his challenge. Get up here and fight them! They’re very strong, and from our point of view, may be on par or even stronger than WM. You gotta come up here and prove :P

I can wait to see epic matchup of FOO vs WM vs MERC. It will be insane, as well as a good reason to slowdown JQ’s SEA domination for us.

Go go go! Beat TC and FA and reign in tier1

Score update please anyone!?

Leo Paul.1659:

Diehard.1432:

Leo Paul.1659:

Yea sorry I mean SEA… I have another accoun and Im thinking whether to move it to JQ or BG depending on which server has more filipino guilds/players that I can join. So far I know BG has Urge while JQ has Exitializ. I’m only considering strictly wvw with Filipino’s. I’m not going to spy or whatever for SOS.

Maybe its time for you to be more open to intenational community instead of limiting yourself to pinoy only? Just saying

It’s just that I find it more fun to be with people who share the same timeslot as I do. I don’t mind joining an international guild, in fact I am a member of one, but the time difference makes it particularly boring in WvW. i’m strictly speaking about WvW during SEA. I don’t mind doing everything else with everyone else. I just want a community that’s competitive in wvw during our primetime.

Have a say with [Urge]. For instance, a guy named “Siegebreak”, he is philipinos too (Urge) and then he can inform you about Blackgate WvW Community.

All i can say for you is that BG SEA is less stacked than JQ SEA. The peak BG SEA, EBG may only get 5-10min queue while the rest of borderlands still queue free to join (unless there are main assault from JQ to BGBL which may cause 5-10min queue to BGBL too) Queues never become a problem at all for Blackgate SEA especially on weekday.

Urge is awesome philipinos guilds to work with. Im sure you will like Blackgate community Speaking from the same SEA timezone peep in Blackgate, Thai Alliance.

[Thai]Nirvii

I heard JQ is starting a mass WvW call out push on tuesday. Do tell us beforehand so we can prepare cookies for all of ya!

MikeFerguson.8921:

Culling is absolutely a fixable problem, and as Habib mentioned in his MMORPG interview, we are planning to completely remove it from the game in march.

Why is it taking so long? Well, I think the best way I can describe how we’ve had to approach this problem is that it’s almost like changing a flat tire on a car that’s still moving. That’s a really rough analogy, but hopefully it helps illustrate just how difficult this would be in terms that are easier for everyone to understand.

Something like the way players render is extremely core to the engine and any change to that sort of thing could cause all kinds of other issues throughout the game. There are a lot of really complex technical problems that we needed to solve, then make sure that our changes don’t actually cause any of those odd side effects.

That being said, we’re confident that been able to solve those problems on the technical side. We still have a bit more testing to do, but we’re not expecting any major issues to pop up at this point, so we’re really looking forward to flipping that switch and getting rid of culling for good!

We’ll have a blog post coming up sometime in the next month to go into more details about the culling fixes and what you can expect.

Pre-Culling update – Enemy disappear frequently (culling) but no skill lag
Post-Culling update (now) – Enemy are there (no culling) but there are massive skill lags (Unable to press skill/heal or anything for 5sec+) during intense battle/heavy populated battle

I suspected there are something about conditions as well since if you face a big zerg with heavy condition necro (guilds like Warmachines, kaineng), skill lags always there badly and can happen anywhere on the map/borderland not to limit to SM EBG.

Please look into it. We all count on you and dont want it to be failed.

I even got this skill lag on the open field west of garrison borderland with WM, not to limit to EBG SM.
WM guild used a lot of condition necros so i suspect it has something to do with those conditions. I heard the conditions required a lot of calculation from server side. Inner SM works the same way because there were so many things/many ppl happen to be in one spot.

I believe it’s about the bottleneck of the data transfer which anet doesnt want to admit or have no way to deal with it yet.

They said u can still able to keep the old record to get that extremely rare title like 100k kills and those yak escort things.

Ranking is ok, i dont mind starting fresh with everyone but I hope all my badges that stockpiled can go into something good looking though and only availiable in WvW.

BTW: Dev, that Invader gears actually costs too much badges. I felt for those who using badges for them. It’s just pointless.

Come on TC!, I knew u guys zombies can do it!
Let show them what zombie coast are all about!
PWN Kaineng and stay in tier2!

It seems confirmed that we, Blackgate will be moving to Tier1 next week, so this is my official farewell to TC/KN.

TC, Thank you for your kind attitude to create this awesome thread. (Page38 with cookies and no locked? that’s awesome!) On the field, you guys doing great fending off us and kaineng during SEA despite the low numbers you have. Still there are pretty kitten awesome guilds like PRO/Pink that we need to be cautious about. Good luck to your trip too and do spank Magumma for us.

KN, you guys really push us hard during Oceanic/SEA. WM definitely a top class guild with superstacked numbers. The way you combining every WMs, REs and the remaining guilds into one big massive zerg made our clients skill lag multiple times lol but top class guild nevertheless. kitten all your stacked necro well of deaths lol… we will miss it. Without you, there wont be any good fight during SEA. Prop to Kaineng and see you soon in tier1 hopefully?

Sorry if i missed any TC/KN guilds but I hope you all enjoy fighting [Thai] Thai Alliance during our depart in tier2 for weeks. Good luck to all of ya!

Brassnautilus.2941:

Those that thought this super-server raise and fall thing will continue are terribly misinformed. Only reason SoS guilds has this way out (going to BG) was because all those rich Thai on BG, who could offer nothing more than cash (to buy gold). You guys expecting them to shoulder coverage during SEA time, think again. Those people barely had the fps to play AC, TA el oh el.

Well i usually not getting bait to post here but since you specifically mentioned us. I have to say you’re wrong on those accusations. We, [Thai]Thai Alliance of Blackgate, are not offer any guilds lump of cash to transfer to Blackgate ever. You may think we’re rich because of all the legendaries we have but that’s not involving with the transfer of SoS guilds at all. They come at their own will, not because of gold. Stop throwing false accusations that insulting players please.

And to the point that we barely have fps to play kitten. This is just lol, you can look through my signature and see our youtube video link from proof. I personally have 40-60 fps and we kill kitten tons of people during SEA from SoS domination era to JQ era then now WM era and their kaineng gang.

I dunno where the hell you from or why you have to specifically mention us, but please spare us (Thai people) some respect.

OMG. Guesting Blackgate NOW! There are real sailor moons here in Hoelbrak!
http://www.blackgatewvw.com/gw2-tumblr-party-now/

Another new Thai Alliance video
]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APDQIMQxvx0

Join Blackgate! We’re still in need of Oceanic/EU/NA/SEA

I save all your hassels.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/WvW-Thief-Perma-Stealth-C-D-wall-intend

Bump it for us please in hope that Anet will answer it.
I hope you understand our frustration when some guilds keep repeat doing this. Please dont turn a nice WvW thread into some kitten excuse permanent thief C&D wall thread. It is enough, you have your stance while we have ours, Let Anet referee decide.

Well Anet, can you please enlight us on this because we’re getting tired of finding one kitten permanent thief who keep C&D wall to permanent stealth waiting to res a dead mesmer inside the keep. The chasing is tedious, you can try observe yourself Anet.

We used like 20 ppl to run around in inner Bay like madman but unable to put a stop to this permanent thief because they keep C&D “the wall” and able to stay hidden all the time.

I’m asking you the simple question, Is the use of C&D ability at “Wall” is intended metagame? I dont think you’re allow to damage wall without catapult right? It is just wrong that theif are able to C&D wall making it even more tedious to catch the permanent stealth thief. Please enlight us on this.

There are certain TC guilds known to keep abusing this permastealth theif/res dead mesmer, which i wont name the shame here. The fact that Kain rarely use this but fight us head on give them some credits.

TC u can argue what you think but we all know in your heart that it is not intended metagame. It is just wrong for 20+ ppl to search for one kitten thief inside a very small inner keep area for half an hour+ and unable to catch the thief. That permanent stealth is just wrong and only they can do that because they can “c&d the wall” not player. Im sure that “c&d wall” will get nerfed soon if Anet really pay attention to WvW.

I dunno if any of u guys lag but we’re in thailand lagging real bad like everyone. My friend in EU also lagging as well. The lag is everywhere, especially when there are huge zergs around.

It usually not lag this bad, but this is like the worst ever. Cant do anything, skill delay everywhere. It’s basicly unplayable situation in WvW EBG.

Do the koreans skill lag too? lol.