Guild Wars 2

Kalastraer.8264:

when the hell was there a dungeon?

There was one last year related to the Mad King Tower. This year was the one located in Charr city land that was short. A Dungeon by traditional definition? No but something like it nonetheless.

Fleaman.9864:

“Harathi! The snake-people crawl from the sea! You know them: They have put chains on your brothers and sisters, who should never be chained. They have bled us and poisoned us! And sometimes immobilize. Now they grow wicked plants and poison the land that we took back from the humans. The humans want our land; they will kill Krait for it. We will let them; we will kill Krait with them. Then we will trample and break the humans, and these lands will again belong only to the Harathi! Now, to me, brothers! To me, sisters! Destroy the wicked plants! Destroy Krait! Destroy… Wait what is this noise?”

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZERRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGG

“Oh. Actually it looks like someone is handling it already. Okay nevermind, we’ll just rebuild that bridge again and call it a day.”

…Indeed yet other post worthy of “Post of the Year” Indeeed…

Because the tower is engaged in “Magically Awesome Super-Doom Defense Mode (of Science!)”?

Tumult.2578:

What does it matter whether it’s temporary or not when my pets will die instantly to the AoEs? Oddly enough, every other character class doesn’t lose their main mechanic support in dungeons.

Just more time wasted on useless content instead of fixing the broken main mechanics.

Most interesting… never thought about this concept for pet classes. I play a Mesmer for example but the “pets” there are only supposed to exist short term. For Rangers I could see how the “I can heal myself of the toxin but not my pets”, and given the lack of AI to attempt to run from the AoE, would be a problem indeed.

You should make sure this problem is addressed in its own thread because it is very important for the players affected and clearly ArenaNet failed therefore.

Josip.8267:

I love how op writes his post like he is stating facts.

My method of typing has a way of appearing like this… however consider my first post only in theory and it might make more sense no matter: Whether it is a full dungeon or not is not important in regards to my attempt to address the main issue of “short-term content”.

Stormcrow.7513:

Zerg the tower
Get your AP and crappy rewards
Wait 2 weeks
repeat

This is one of the main problems with these releases. No time to do anything “fun” but instead a “forced march” through content.

Mickey Frogeater.1470:

The Master.2893:

Remember that the centaurs have been bought out by Minister Caudecus (human personal story)

In other words Centaurs already are allied with the bandits….

Indeed it is so…

Edit: With the patch released it is clear this will be Temporary content…

The “story instance” at the end is indeed just another short-term dungeon like the “Funhouse” was. This post addresses the concept that the “tower”, dunegon or not, and its content will be shortly removed weeks following the release.

If the dungeon is to be as promised then there is no way it can be properly enjoyed in only a 2-week window. Maybe not even 4 weeks. I know some of you like to rush through front to back and could care less about the “enjoying the visuals”; nonetheless with every living story patch released, a ticking clock exists counting down the time until the destruction of the release.

Look: Dungeons are useless and forgetable unless you can explore them slowly. This cannot be done in a short time no matter how hard you try. Making temporary dungeons only further serves to make this game more “unenjoyable” and defeats the intent of a “Living Story”. Scarlet doesn’t have to be defeated in 2-week time windows. The world won’t come to an end if it takes longer else Scarlet would have destroyed everything by now.

No matter…

Indeed it is so…

You has discovered something important about the failure of Living Story concept without observing it thus: What happens when Living Story engages Personal Story?

Remember that the centaurs have been bought out by Minister Caudecus (human personal story) and have a non-aggression pact with Lion’s Arch. How long will this continue? Forever if the personal story is never advanced.

Thus a failure with the Living Story concept indeed…

shaidyn.4016:

The most efficient way to earn gold in this game is to take overtime shifts at work and convert the cash to gold.

I could spend a saturday farming like mad and make 100G or so. Or I could take an overtime shift and make 700G. That’s efficiency right there.

Hahahaha….. must say that this should win “Post of the Year” award.

However this does require one to “be employed” in the first place. Which of course if you are playing MMORPG’s in the first place is indeed most in question no matter…

…for the record ALL servers are “PvE” servers…

In either situation any server that is listed as “very high” population in USA or “high” population in eurozone should be fine. Anything below that and you will have population issues.

With the new Looking for Group tool you can also cross realm party and you can always guest anytime so no need to worry about populations for PvE purposes.

Dante.1508:

These new nodes are they actually used for something? As in what do they make if not Ascended items?

Yes in theroy but none of the nodes so far are “game changing” and you should be able to play without them.

A Few Points…

1. Holiday content is supposed to be short term. Else it would have no meaning if it was around all year long.

2. Your point that previous releases are not open past their release is valid. The problem with the “Living Story” is that the content ends up being short-lived. Imagine if WoW’s expansions “went away” after the new one was released. A small game it would be indeed.

3. If you have only been here for a month or so it might be too soon to understand ArenaNet’s non-traditional strategy. However they favor small changes on a theme of a bigger story. The goal is to get players to focus on the “real-time” of the event; and during the Scarlet Invasion release this effect was most effective. For new players this does leave you only to “read about the past on wiki”.

In either situation the “wars” that gives this game its name (Guild Wars) has indeed thus been “discontinued”. This thread thus is vaild in its nature.

Indeed it is so…

BlackDevil.9268:

The looks are there, the map is there, the story is there… so why aren’t these feathered friends still not here?

…because the game doesn’t need a new race? 5 are enough and the ones that exist are fine when compared to other MMORPG’s.

Unless the game moves to somewhere completely different on the other side of the planet or otherwise and new races are found: There is no need for any new races in GW2. Instead the currently playable races need more story to them.

Indeed it is so…

Must agree this problem has been a problem… esp if you like to /say ……. alot

Well to be fair the Scarlet concept is actually interesting versus more killing of dragons.

However it is true that all of the following releases feel “disconnected” from each other and somewhat random. Because Anet doesn’t preview content to be in the future it is hard to say now whether there is a “direction” or not.

Good call. Indeed the “Living Story” concept that Anet promotes so much ends up being more of a relation between player/player (if even that) and not player/game. No matter you get the idea.

…whats the point of having a super awesome bar location (for roleplay purposes or otherwise) if the bartender doesn’t serve anything? Furthermore whats behind all the doors? Its like this place just got left behind after “Dragon Bash” even though its characters it introduced are all still running ’round

On another note… when is ArenaNet gonna have “sit animation” for chairs and the like? Very sad that everyone, NPC or player, has to stand “next to the chair” as opposed to “in the chair”.

If this game is to have a Living Story then it needs to feel “living”… even if such small changes do not affect gameplay. These and many more “minor visuals” need to be addressed by ArenaNet.

Indeed it is so…

…they won’t do it if what they said at the Seattle PAX event how wonderful the current timeline for release is even remote to being accurate.

Why is it so?

The World May Never Know…

skullmount.1758:

If there were safe zones, then the villagers would just stay there the whole time thus making them win every single game.

This is problem with 45 character limit on titles: Not enough description of the situation.

When I mean “safe zone” I don’t mean ones that exists for everyone: The game needs a safe zone for new players who only recently logged/loading into the map. If you go in/out of the mode you will sometimes notice that as soon as you appear you will have “a host awaiting your arrivial”. Thus the “smart players” are awaiting to kill any new players before they can start and the game becomes one-sided.

Whether safe zones should exist for other players is subject to debate. However new players that log into a zone shouldn’t be dead (or found) before they even started playing.

Indeed it is so…

Edit: This post only relates to players who are loading into the map not for players already there/running around.

The problem with this mini-game among many others is that the “smart players” just camp the spawn points for villagers. If you have poor internet connection/load time you might just be dead even before you log into the zone. Else they see you and know where you are and you can either spend the whole game running or just leave the mists and exit the mini-game.

Either something needs to be added to check whether a spawn location is safe before loading or something needs to be added to map to allow new players at least some safe time before entering the game: The SPvP maps have something like this. Perhaps an auto-stealth mode or something on a short countdown could be used instead.

Something must be done else the “smart players” will win every time.

Indeed it is so…

Hey one of the recent patches fixed this issue it appears. Go check it out yourself mates: Thanks for being on top Anet!

Indeed it is so…

Yea… I know: Just try to figure out the story of World of Warcraft when the undead race was “removed” in the Chinese language version.

HAHAHAHAAHAAA!!!! THE MASTER SPEAKS AGAIN!

Looks like indeed the prices fell off a cliff as expected… got close to 4g at one point. It should continue to fall down somewhere in the 3g range. Furthermore if you look at the graph in-game it appears the prices fall off the cliff during peak game hours and recover a little bit on late hours. Thus indeed players (likely casual ones) are converting gems into gold as expected.

No matter: For anyone who traded gold>gems pre super box patch.

No comment…

Indeed it is so…

Hey John… it says that this post was started 8 hours ago… does that mean you were up at midnight on Labor Day messing with that super doom long post?:

No matter: A very long and effective post nonetheless… a good starting point for discussing SPvP.

Now… if we can only address the REAL problem: WvW!

Indeed it is so…

Manoa.5897:

Two days! Woot!! Who’s going!?

Just us two it appears…

Indeed it is so…

Gehenna.3625

Reading is a skill. So is knowing the difference between light and dark blue….You actually quoted the numbers for LINEAGE 1 and not GW2….GW2 is barely bigger than Aion at the moment.

The actual numbers for GW2 are 36,382 and then 28,899 so they are going down and nowhere near the Lineage 1 numbers.

… I stand corrected. Looks like I messed up the different color’s of blue on my screen to assume the inverted situation. This does change the logical conclusions therefore that can be made.

Thank you for your post.

Hell Avenger.7021:

Oh I am just curious if ANet will take deflationary action or just let the inflation sit.

…the next patch is Inflationary! (for non gems transactions). Rush on mats will drive up prices and the loss of supply due to end of invasions will push up BLTC prices.

Gems however will deflate and fall off a cliff. Thus make your trades now!

Indeed it is so…

Gehenna.3625:

lol, you’re funny. Aside from the fact that Anet doesn’t get that 60 bucks because of intermediaries and taxes, you clearly have no idea how much it costs to build and maintain an MMO. If they closed the gemstore today I don’t think the game would last very long at all before they had to pull the plug on it.

Well to be fair to “bigtime”… if 100% of profits were going back to ArenaNet this game would have far more content in it then it does now. How much content that would be is undefined.

…Based upon prices on BLTC I might actually agree with you in theory that non-Gem “Asset Classes” continue to deflate. Crafting materials, including T6 ones, are not as high as they used to be. This might also be due to massive flood of supply as a result of the invasions.

However Gem prices gone over the roof: A shift from 3g>5g in less then two months of time. Given this is how ArenaNet makes “Earth Gold” (and how this game is funded)… this is far more important aspect to observe.

Indeed it is so…

bigtime.7410:

3.5 millions times $60

They paid for development, a nice profit, and sever fees for the next 100 years. They dont need revenue, they’ve already been paid. Anything more is just pure greed, and by the looks of it, sacrificed a good IP for extra bucks. They’ve blew it with this game, Im not touching another product thats associated with any of these companies.

Well due to retailer’s cost (if you buy game or gems at GameStop for example) its hard to say how much of the retail price ArenaNet gets.

But in theory your point is somewhat vaild: Right now GW2 is bailing out NCSOFT’s other “failed” projects… currently Wildstar who’s “Pay to Play” model recently announced will destroy that game.

If ArenaNet had 100% of sales of game to fund the game then there wouldn’t be any problems as you stated. But this is not so.

No matter…

Buttercup.5871:

Vol, you forgot to mention that the sky will fall and we’ll all be doomed.

You need to sell your gems between tomorrow (because F&F dyes) and the next patch (because Vol’s reasons). It’s not that hard to figure out.

Oh, and while you’re at it, think about what people need after they crafted their ascended weapons for once. You’re all focusing on what materials are needed to craft ascended weapons, speculating like mad, but you’re not focusing on the obvious. What does anyone need after they crafted a weapon? (except for the obvious: love, peace on earth, and pizza).

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C’mon you can do this, think harder!

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No, not pizza. I like pizza too though. Pizza is nice. Mmmmmm. Pizza

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Think of the upgrade slot silly!

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAA!

Nice post there!

No matter… since I currently don’t use gear with the infused upgrade slots I don’t know much about it. But yes that would be true too.

On other note: Perhaps its time to speculate and buy all mats in expectation that prices will surge next week? Easy gold therefore!

Indeed it is so…

Pacifica.9576:

Gehenna.3625:

The financial reports shows that Last year GW2 made a lot of money and in the first two quarters of 2013 sales are down dramatically, like 70% down…Also the second quarter was down from the first quarter again. So the financial reports actually show that the game is going down financially in the first half of this year. In that sense GW2 has followed the same trend as other MMOs.

Anet/NcSoft have also said that by now the game is stabilising and slowly growing again. So the game is not dying but financially I don’t think they’re exactly sitting on roses either.

So my assessment is that it’s doing ok. Not great, not horrible, but ok.

Does the sales figure account for the gem store?

YES!

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Okay I got the numbers to end this debate (Q2 2013):

Q2 2013 PDF File (use download link) page 4-5

(Numbers in Million Korean Won)

All Operating Profit: 62,248
All Game Sales: 192,014
GW2 Sales: 28,899, down from 36,382 last Quarter

Costs of GW2 are not directly provided in this presentation.

Indeed it is so…

Vol.5241:

When new legendaries come out, I guarantee you people will be selling gems to fund their legendary ASAP. Precursors will cost +1000g and all those t6 mats and lodestones will be painfully expensive.

Indeed… which means the Gold>Gem price will fall off a cliff from aroung 5g now to down to 3g or lower even.

Therefore if you wish to buy Gems now… wait until next week.

…hey I noticed if you turn the player limit cap to “Medium” or lower (assuming your computer’s power is fine otherwise) then most lag/disconnect issues go away.

For some reason player limits higher then Medium in a combat situation are unstable and will likely disconnect you. This is probably because the Internet can only handle so much transfer at the speed needed to prevent a failure and whatever that limit is Medium seems to be “on the edge” of it therefore.

Indeed it is so…

Vayne.8563:

The Quarterly report from NcSoft, which is a publicly held company, shows that Guild Wars 2 is doing fine.

“Fine” is an understatement:)

If their reports are even close to accurate then GW2 is bailing out the rest of the company right not. NCSOFT without GW2 would be losing money otherwise.

Which is good for us at least…

Indeed it is so…

Edit: It appears what was predicted has been observed: Gem prices falling off cliff. It may take up to a month to get back to 3g range on a stable level depending on how long it takes players to rotate back into the game.

…If the next patch released will have a “Tier 7” line of crafting gear and new caps on skills, then next week there will be a rush on gold finally for once in this game. Why? Because players will wish to level their crafting skill to 500 as fast as possible and will be willing to pay super high prices for Tier 7 gear… far higher then current prices of Tier 6 gear.

Furthermore: Interest in “new” Legend-class weapons will only push materials for them and perhaps their prices even higher. Thus a increase in demand of gold will occur.

If the current invasions stop next week, then the farming of events that has massively driven up gold supply in last two weeks will be gone. Thus less gold in supply and less crafting materials in supply will change prices.

Now it is possible there will be little effect for one reason or another… if players do not decide to buy gems with Earth Currency in order to buy gold or if players that have gem reserves do not exchange them for gold. Nonetheless this is unlikely.

Therefore what is a player to do? If you want Gold for your Gems(Gems>Gold)… trade now while you can. Else DONT TRADE FOR ANY GEMS UNTIL NEXT WEEEK (Gems>Gold) It will probably take several days for this deflation to occur so don’t expect a high rate of change right on patch release date.

Indeed it is so…

Barbara.4365:

I love this game too, and the creators did an amazing job on the living world and on everything else.

But they SURE like to brag.

They do it because they have to… in order to get funding from NCSOFT (who owns them) and to get respect from non-GW2 gamers (such as WoW land) and the Video Game Industry they have to engage aggressively. Blizzard does the same thing as well.

Don’t let it get to you too much… its just good business strategy.

cesmode.4257:

I dont really care or have an opinion. This is the general forums and this belongs in the sPvP.

We are struggling for survival here in these forums, trying to make PVE as strong as can be. It is hard enough with the fluffy weak LS updates, dont need to infuse the e-sport mantra on us.

Fair enough… I don’t like E-Sports myself usually because most of them are pointless: Need more meaning to care.

I posted this thread here because the event goes beyond SPvP; its more of “a game-wide event”, whether you like it or not. A SPvP forum would only address a small amount of the player population who ENGAGES in SPvP and not players who “only observe”: I am trying to talk to a more general player population therefore.

On another note… It is just that once you think about it: How many tens of thousands of USD is being spend on this event? Just the cost to fly in all the players would cost a bunch. This money could be spent on more PvE content. Thus whether you care about SPvP or not it effects your PvE life as well…

No matter…

No its free and no connection to the PAX event. There may be a population limit so if you get there while its full you might have to wait a bit.

…No one cares about this event?

Most interesting Indeed…

/agree

…ArenaNet found a way (just like “life” did in “Jurassic Park”) to defeat the crushing forces of MMORPG’s and also the shear force that is WoW.

It is indeed amazing… even I have had doubts. Hopefully NCSOFT will figure out that their current MMORPG “Investment” Wildstar is a Failed Project and thus once again restore full funding levels to advance GW2 at a fast rate of speed and with the epic scale of content only matched by WoW. NCSOFT simply has too many MMORPG’s out there to mangage anyone of them to a scale that is Warcraft.

No matter: I look forward to spending some “quality time” with the ArenaNet staff in the Seattle event this weekend…

Indeed it is so…

…well in a Video Game that is GW2 in which the only way apparently to deal with “conflict resolution” is to kill everything on site no questions asked… it makes sense ArenaNet is making this game this way.

It gets seriously annoying as well: Who are the Aetherblades? IDK lets go kill the leader and find out… O wait we killed the leader and we got nothing: What do we do now? What? A new leakitten ops up? Lets go kill her too.

This whole game has devolved into a big game of “Wack-A-Mole” whereas we go around mindlessly killing stuff, whether in dynamic events or instanced areas, without any shred of intelligence. Feels kinda like Obama’s UAV program… just firing Hellfire Missiles into populated areas and killing “terrorists” without care about what happens. No room for “intelligence gathering” of Aetherblades: Just shoot on site.

We the players will never understand anything about this Living Story if everything we do is to kill everything on site. There are more peaceful, and more effective, strategies but I guess we are just not smart enough to make it happen…

Indeed it is so…

Indeed… there should be a cooldown timer to let you back into the zone you were in before player in query can “rush in to the final boss fight and get credit for something they didn’t do”. Had this problem a few mintues ago… but I was logged into an overflow server in the middle of a event that if I didn’t run for me life would have proved most lethal…

Well if you are going to Seattle next week for the event: Time to Protest!

Indeed it is so…

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/meet-the-gw2-pvp-invitational-tournament-teams/

Based upon this useful post by ArenaNet it becomes more clear that the USA team will win without question. The EU’s team of “distracting the other team with the one single player capping the objectives” is a tactic used and seen only by random PUG SPvP matches but will not work against a determined foe… including one aware of this beforehand and with time to prepare against.

As a Mesmer… it is sad to see none in this battle or Warriors here either although I have been told these classes have been made weak in SPvP. No matter: The current class matchup has some potentinal problems. The EU team requires its opponents to be “in a small space” for the elemental’s and perhaps other’s AOE attacks to be effective. If the USA team splits up as described into 3 the AOE attacks will become almost worthless.

I need to see both teams play to get a better idea on how the classes they have are used to justify these observations nonetheless USA is favored well over EU team. Furthermore the EU team is/has been defeated and only made it because the winning team was disqualified.

If player betting was allowed I would go “all in” on the USA team even though I play Eurozone myself. I will be there next week in Seattle so perhaps I will get better information.

No matter: What do you think? Perhaps I have overlooked some issues. I should therefore update this post as deemed it to be so…

Indeed it is so…

Edit: The Link is listed under “Community” section. However it is bugged… if you look at it under some sections of the site including these forums it is not listed. However if you go to the main site it will be listed there. Nonetheless a perma post on main page for next few weeks would be nice….

Ahhh thanks for the post. That information seemed to be hidden somewhat on the site as I don’t see any links on main page or sections to that area. Least I have it now no matter…

See you laters!

Indeed it is so…

Next Patch Out: No Change…

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Turn up graphics settings? Buy New Computer/Hardware?…….

…OUTSIDE of the Tournament that is. Will there be stuff for us mortal peasants to do during the action like the event in March? Or will the event be completly focused on the PvP Tournament?

The “get-together” effect of GW players last time was good and having something for us to do this time would be nice as well.

Only ArenaNet will be able to answer this post…

Indeed it is so…