Guild Wars 2

I usually log in for guild missions and a fractal after that but i haven’t even been doing that the last week or two, still been playing other games with my guildies though. If GW2 loses enough of my interest before HOT comes out i might not even get it. Not a threat of course, just an average guy’s feelings. But if i had something fun to do in the meantime….

lordkrall.7241:

From the forums CoC:

Do not post petitions, “I demand an answer” threads, conspiracy threads, or comments about circumventing the rules.

And no, not even close to everyone loved SAB. Heck we had a rather large amount of posts that demanded the removal of this “silly, completely out of place thing”.

You can talk all you want about being happy with just W1 and W2. But if it actually happens and it is just W1 and W2 people will rage just as much, because there is no new stuff.

We KNOW SAB is coming back at some point. Spamming the forums about demanding it back won’t change anything.

How can you be sated with the knowledge that it will come back at some point? They could continue saying that for years and never have lied. 1 year in a games cycle is a REALLY long time to wait to be able to use something you spent real world money on.

I wonder if this is the longest forum post yet…

So sab tomorrow right? …right?

AlphaWolf.2709:

Therodin.2970:

AlphaWolf.2709:

Despite my opinion of SAB, I just don’t understand why people can’t understand “no” when it’s being told to them over and over. Anet has already stated SAB isn’t in the current plans. How many times do you have to let yourself down before you believe them? Also, stop hating on Anet when YOU do this to yourselves. They have already given everyone an answer, now believe it or continue to be disappointed. I agree with wanting to know what are we suppose to do in the meantime, but throwing a fit about something anets already told you isn’t the answer.

All of that would make lots of sense except for the infinite continue coin.

It still makes perfect sense. SAB doesn’t fit into the current direction of the game. Not saying its never coming back, but they never promised a date. IF anything, what you can bank on is not any time soon, as they’ve stated. Which is why I don’t get people getting so worked up when it didn’t come today, as anet already hinted it wouldn’t.

Then what about them putting the sab minis in the black lion chests? Doesn’t that seem to be in bad taste considering how it would obviously affect everyones hopes?

AlphaWolf.2709:

Despite my opinion of SAB, I just don’t understand why people can’t understand “no” when it’s being told to them over and over. Anet has already stated SAB isn’t in the current plans. How many times do you have to let yourself down before you believe them? Also, stop hating on Anet when YOU do this to yourselves. They have already given everyone an answer, now believe it or continue to be disappointed. I agree with wanting to know what are we suppose to do in the meantime, but throwing a fit about something anets already told you isn’t the answer.

All of that would make lots of sense except for the infinite continue coin.

So not releasing sab is as always dissapointing but releasing the minis and then not releasing sab is i feel kind of rude :/

The Mini Super Monkey, Mini Super Spider, Mini Super Bee Dog, Mini Super Yeti, Mini Super Raccoon, and Mini Super Banana have been added as rare drops.
That is from the patch notes and a very rude joke on anets part </3

So this is just something i’ve wondering while ive been enjoying the very difficult game of bloodborne. But do you guy’s think anet notices a change in players logging in every day after a sweet AAA title release?

SYPHA.9283:

Darkness.9732:

They should nerf turret engineer.
If you are against that well you are simply a turret engineer who loves easy kills and if i can say…a kid who doesn’ t want to give up on his toy…

Or a noob that has no clue how to beat one. one word…RANGE

So let’s say you can kill a turret engineer 100% eventually with range. Do you know how quickly you need to do it before there team has gotten more points than they will lose by you killing him?

So im pretty sure i heard that because dcing for one second counted as a loss on the leaderboards they were giving people a 1 minute or so grace period to reconnect and since they could not tell a dc from a character swap people were basically aloud to swap characters without any leaderboard penalty as long as they did it in that grace period. but someone today told me that was not true, is that still true?

Everyone says ignore the turret engi and 4v5 the other points but what about the team of four guildie turrent engis i have been queued up against five times in the last two days.

If your in a game and then disconnect for longer than 1 minute dont you get like a massive loss on the LB?

Happened again please dont count this is as a super loss

So they said in an interview with AngryJoe that once again they are looking for the right time to fit sab in. What could be a more right time than now, when we have nothing going on but a pvp ladder test season?

The ice crown over the ice thing in the iceblind fractal is also not taking any damage, it seems to be something with hitting structures.

What if the options were pay gems for sab or not have it come back again?

Well im sure we would all prefer if sab were completely free and there was another world but i dont think its totally realistic to expect that

I think 1000 gems each would be a lot but i would still be willing to pay it

How much would you guys be willing to pay in gems to “unlock” W1 or W2?

Monkey Fritz.9052:

Ayrilana.1396:

I still don’t see how people spent 3+ hours on a map in World 2 unless they were doing the achievements.

I’m not sure how anyone, no matter how exceptionally good they may have been, or claim to be, can NOT see how that is possible for a lot of other players. Players have been known to take longer on their first run of AC or fractals for not knowing the mechanics of the dungeons. But there were plenty of things to extend gameplay sessions for the average player.

1: The bugs. People with poor latency had major issues with a lot of the content. It just wasn’t forgiving even the slightest discrepancies between the client and server. It definately caused issues for me personally, and contributed to a lot of fails in specific locations. I could not even get past the rapids until the first patch removed that mechanic. There are videos of people trying to get past them with random knockbacks because of the latency issues.

2: It was actually difficult. Not everyone who plays video games is naturally good at them. Especially in this game, which is heavily marketed to a more casual crowd. Even more so in the mmo market as a whole, where platforming skills are not usually required.

3: It was long. No one can (or at least should) be arguing against the fact that the levels were incredibly long compared to any other instanced content in the game. There isn’t a single dungeon path as long as the second or third levels of w2. And when every ten feet there is another platforming challenge or tricky enemy to get past, it gets longer.

4: Death had consequences. A single failure was quite the setback, for any average skilled player (not the people who always say thigs like “I can’t believe it would take anyone that long”) death happened frequently, set you back several dozen platforming challenges that had to be renegotiated, and an ever increasing potential of running out of continue coins and having to abandon the level completely.

5: Running out of time. even a single hour of dedicated instance time runs the risk of having real life interupt and prevent you from completing it.

6: Disconnects. Both as a result of people connections, certain bugs in the content, and a client that was not completely stable at the time, were common.

So i can’t argue against your other points that casual players and people bad at video games would have trouble here, but with the first one are you suggesting anet should try to design content with people with bad internet in mind?

It did not give all the points and titles, it gave 39 points and the gwomm title only. But that seems like more evidence to me that they forgot to unlink it from some specific persons account.

That makes such very sad sense. And i know they don’t care about one customer but i have been noticing myself get online less and less lately. The last few weeks i really just got on for guild missions and maybe a fractal afterwards. If they released W2 the way it is but charged you money to go there while letting you know that it was exactly the same as it was before would that be better? Then nobody who hated W2 would have to go?

Monkey Fritz.9052:

Therodin.2970:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Moldur.6275:

Between now and HoT launch there is yet a lot of time, and if preparing SAB means that HoT is delayed by a couple of weeks due to some of the devs preparing SAB, I think it is completely worth it. Lets face it, they haven’t announced the release date yet, and if they were to release HoT in late August vs early September, it wouldn’t matter which date they chose, as the difference from now until then is minimal between the two.

To get to my point, spending some resources on SAB would give the playerbase an incredible amount of content compared to the devs needed, as it could easily make months fly by as we wait for the expansion to launch.

Conclusion: A few devs working on SAB as a side project would barely affect HoT as a whole, but make the time until launch so much more enjoyable that I think it would greatly benefit HoT and the whole game in a bigger perspective.

April 1, two weeks away.

It only took 7 Devs to make world 1 in the first place.

Really? do you know how long it took them?

Quick history lesson.

World 1 was made for fun, by a handful of devs, in their spare time. At least 80% of the work was done without even being paid, as a side project. The side project was cool and fun, so it was thrown into the game as a fun april fools joke.

It was immensely popular.

More time was allotted, and the devs were allowed to spend paid time working on w2. Unfortunately it had issues. There were bugs with latency they had not predicted, the levels were overtly long, making it very difficult for people to finish when it required 3+ hours of uninterrupted playtime to finish (6+ hours for many). And they released the biggest grind Tyria had ever seen with ascended weapons at the same time, keeping a large portion of the player base too busy to play content that didn’t help in any way to achieve those weapons.

W2 was not as popular as they hoped, and I am sure the suits decided it was a lost investment vs the expectations of a cash cow they wanted it to be.

W2 was promised to be reworked, to fix a lot of the issues. So they are not just taking the time to make w3, but to redesign all of w2. I expect the devs are not allotted time to work on it in their paid schedules, either.

But while they are working on W2, why can’t they also let us play the old w2? and the popular w1?

I really enjoyed world 1 & 2 and would definetly put down monster hunter, minecraft and gta5 heists if i could grind out all those wonderfully colored skins

Kal Spiro.9745:

Moldur.6275:

Between now and HoT launch there is yet a lot of time, and if preparing SAB means that HoT is delayed by a couple of weeks due to some of the devs preparing SAB, I think it is completely worth it. Lets face it, they haven’t announced the release date yet, and if they were to release HoT in late August vs early September, it wouldn’t matter which date they chose, as the difference from now until then is minimal between the two.

To get to my point, spending some resources on SAB would give the playerbase an incredible amount of content compared to the devs needed, as it could easily make months fly by as we wait for the expansion to launch.

Conclusion: A few devs working on SAB as a side project would barely affect HoT as a whole, but make the time until launch so much more enjoyable that I think it would greatly benefit HoT and the whole game in a bigger perspective.

April 1, two weeks away.

It only took 7 Devs to make world 1 in the first place.

Really? do you know how long it took them?

Theres only like 20- maybe 30 new things max that have been added, why not just go run through them?

I mean they already spent all that money to pay people to make,debug, texture, advertise SAB Why not stop wasting the money and just give us access to W1 and W2? I would be fine with paying up to 1000 gems if i could buy like a SAB transport key that looked like one of the keys in SAB and using it teleported me to the world hub.

Neither the achievements or the title have been rolled back.

I dont know why someone can’t just tell us why W1 and W2 arent in the game currently. I’m sure they have a good reason. There is no way they just like seeing me cry ;(

Have they ever said why the first two worlds aren’t in the game currently? Like nothing new, just the old stuff so i can grind out all those wondrous skins?

I am not a fan of this change, i run high level fractals and dungeons with some good friends and guildies pretty often and usually i just ask them not to cc and i will eventually whittle down the defiance before letting everyone know a Deep Freeze wass coming, now we will probably just ignore cc altogether. Unless the bar regenerates slow enough for one person to be able to whittle it down, or its actually plausible for us to keep it low to stop a big attack.

If heart of thorns was one big joke and we got sab back instead, id be happy >.>

my load time is like 10-15 seconds, there is no way that game finished that quickly. i dont believe either beast was up but even if they were that would only have gained them 50 points.

I just lagged out of a game that was 400-420 and on forest, i loaded back in pretty quickly but it loaded me into heart of the mists instead of back into that game. Is there something i did wrong that made it not put me back into that game?

6 more sab world, 3 more sab classes, revamped sab story line

I would be overjoyed if heart of thorns was just the name of world three super adventure box xD

We are all mordemoth’s children and all other races shall bow before us.

It would be like if someone sold us a car that could only drive on roads but he also owned every road in town and then two weeks later he removed all of his roads.

SAB armor skins… drool shorts out keyboard

Please bring us back some sab between the end of season 2 and the beginning of heart of thorns

Does anyone know exactly when the leaderboard ends? And can you just put it in pst time zone since thats the one the leaderboard uses?

I actually like this leaderboard. I have felt like 250 was attainable even though im not very good and only win about my half my games. If it was more skill based and less grindy i would not have pvped probably at all this past month.

I also dced about 10 minutes ago as did like 8 other people in my game, i would really like it if anet just didnt count any games during that time, i would prefer that to a complete loss going on my record.

Arent there a lot of things you can do that help your team win that dont award score though? That seems like a sad way to decide that.

So i was just in a game that at the end was 499them to 498 us and we had a 2 cap to there 1 cap. So points tick up and games ends 500-500. My screen said loss and theres said win, i was wondering what made the game decide that?

You actually can work towards a precursor by saving up a lot of money.

It was possible to enter as a party last year and did seem much more like a dungeon than a pvp instance. In that im pretty sure the event did not start until you walked in and you could do it by yourself if you wanted. I have no idea why it was changed to be more like pvp other than it apparently had to.

Zaklex.6308:

For all of you complaining about this, and those that know nothing of programming..let me put it in simple terms you might understand. The code that allows single and party entrance into an instance like Toypocalypse is shared with PvP, which means the code is the exact same thing for PvP as it is for Toypocalypse. To stabilize PvP they had to make some changes that made it so parties could not join the same instance together. In order to allow parties to join Toypocalypse as a party they would need to duplicate that code, make what ever changes are necessary just for Toypocalypse and insert into the game code, which could lead to more bugs and problems if it’s a rush job. By waiting until Wintersday 2015 it gives the team a better chance to get the code correct and limits the potential for it being buggy. Most if not all software that has code that is used in multiple functions doesn’t duplicate that bode but just does what A.net, fix it for it’s main purpose until there is sufficient time to rework it for both purposes. Besides, Toypocalypse was originally intended to be a solo join experience as a random group.

To fix the issue they’d need to completely rewrite the code, better to allow them a year to do it in vs a couple of months.

I understand what your saying, but “To stabilize PvP they had to make some changes that made it so parties could not join the same instance together.” Parties joining the same instance together is exactly what ranked arena is. I think that is what most people have a problem understand, how it being similar to pvp (something you can do with party members) makes it so that we cant do it with party members.

I wish that if we complained enough they would decide to devote the time it would take to fix this before wintersday is over, but im sure they already have the holiday plans set and we will just be SOL for this cold cold wintersday