Guild Wars 2

Kal Spiro.9745:

Therodin.2970:

lordkrall.7241:

And would anyone here actually accept a reply that said: “No we can’t add it right now due to lack of resource?”
I find that rather unlikely.

If a dev got on here and said hey guys i just loaded up W1 and 2 to check out how it fairs in the current build and right off the bat i noticed these game breaking problems:1.2.3.
I dont know when we will be able to get to them but thats why w1 and 2 cant come back. i think if a dev did that that mass majority of people here would be gratefull

That is so Naïve it’s adorable. As is the case in EVERY SINGLE thread in which a dev has said almost exactly the same thing about anything in the game the posts that immediately followed would be positive, “Thanks for the update, do your best, we believe.” In short order the posts would start turning, “What are you guys doing? You should have done this ages ago? You’re doing everything wrong.” Things would stabilize with people telling off other people that they told us, others claiming they lied to us, and we’d just be right back where we started saying, “Why isn’t it done yet?”

The best they could do would be to give us an imaginary number for a minimum release time, like they did for personal story changes. That way all complaints and questions get shut down immediately by player that are acting as a personal count down timer. Once the timer runs out they still have the buffer of, “Well it was minimum time, they didn’t give us maximum time.”

You don’t think people have a right to expect service in a timely manner? If the waiter told you your food was going to be late, you’d thank him and probably be perfectly polite waiting but when it continued to not show up you would justifiably start to get irritated.

Gene Archer.8560:

lordkrall.7241:

mchr.5374:

that really aint an excuse they could perfectly fine bringing it back with no extras. it would give people a chance to get the SAB skins again
due to my limited play time i only managed to get 1 King toad weapon.

And yet it is very naive to think that they can just push a button and SAB is back working as intended.

There have been a massive amount of changes to the game and the engine since SAB was last available. So at the very least they would have to take people to test that it still work as intended and at the worst they would have to spend weeks if not more to fix issues that have turned up. Weeks that would have to be taken away from preparing the HoT launch.

So then make an event of it. Let players bug test it, and then take one or two people to work out the kinks.

call it SAB: Glitch in the System

inb4 “People would complain”

I’d be fine with beta testing W1&2 on the current game build.

guys guys, just wait patiently and anet will definitely not continue to say eventually forever cough SAB cough

lordkrall.7241:

And would anyone here actually accept a reply that said: “No we can’t add it right now due to lack of resource?”
I find that rather unlikely.

If a dev got on here and said hey guys i just loaded up W1 and 2 to check out how it fairs in the current build and right off the bat i noticed these game breaking problems:1.2.3.
I dont know when we will be able to get to them but thats why w1 and 2 cant come back. i think if a dev did that that mass majority of people here would be gratefull

This is very sadly probably just not that important to them. They are very busy with HOT and seem to only be working on big bugs.

Kal Spiro.9745:

Minigrump.4961:

here is an idea. instead of HoT, an expansion’s worth of content with just Super Adventure Box

I want SAB themed elite specializations

This please

Zietlogik.6208:

Why is this still not returning?

Because they apparently only have resources for HOT right now. No one to spare for anything else

Bubi.7942:

Kal Spiro.9745:

lordkrall.7241:

Angelica Dream.7103:

I find it awesome that this thread still stays alive.
Some how I fee that Anet just wants it to go away. My only questions is what will they not just open up SAB, since so many liked it?

Well for one there were plenty of people that disliked it as well, especially world 2.

It is also the matter of it simply not being a case of pushing a button and it will magically work.

They also don’t have the personnel available right now to do anything that is not related to HoT. that was their choice, whether or not it’s a good one, but it’s the choice they made. HoT or nothing. The only thing that will be worked on and come out before HoT is skill/trait changes, which are also directly related to HoT because of specializations.

And then HoT comes out in let’s say, by the end of August / early September. And as we all guessed, no SAB until HoT.

You can bet your kitten that there will be no LS updates or anything (maybe bugfix updates) for 1.5-2 months. There’s enough new content, be happy with that, so no SAB.

And then… oh, it’s Halloween! Fire up those Lunatic Inquis farming AFK engines for the Return of the Bloody Prince again, who we see for the first time for some reason. Again. SAB? Nope.

And then… It’s Wintersday month! I guess no SAB, eh?

And then, a month’s break. Everyone needs a break sometimes.

And then LS3 will probably start somewhere in 2016 February. And as we all know, SAB doesn’t fit in the LS.

So…

SAB in 2017 maybe?

Well as valve and gabe newell have taught us, if enough people complain about something for long enough big companies might take a notice.

I haven’t done anything in guild wars for a few months now…

Kal Spiro.9745:

minbariguy.7504:

lordkrall.7241:

It has been confirmed in this thread that it is coming back.

It has also been confirmed by my weather rock that it is going to rain. That makes it totally reliable, right? I mean, it’ll rain eventually someday, right?

Does your weather rock specifically control the weather? Did your weather rock create the weather in the first place? Is the weather contingent on your weather rock? Because all of those things are true of the relationship between SAB and ANet. As such, when ANet says it will be back I would say it is far more meaningful than whatever your rock has to say on the subject of weather.

How long does it have to take before you don’t believe that it is coming back?

bloodletting wolf.2837:

Therodin.2970:

Kal Spiro.9745:

cleabh.5308:

Kal Spiro.9745:

cleabh.5308:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Then you have obviously not spent enough time on these forums. People will complain about anything. If they announced that SAB was going to be permanently opened the forums would be full of people complaining that SAB is stupid and detracts from their enjoyment of the game because it doesn’t make sense. There are a whole slew of people who find SAB to be immersion breaking and can’t stand the idea of other people who enjoy it being able to play it.

I’ve heard this several times before, but the number of players who’d be angry about SAB having no new content is a fraction of those upset, right now, that it isn’t here. They certainly wouldn’t boycott the game because of it, which people are already doing because of the broken SAB promises.

If you want proof, compare this thread to the reactions to the repeat Wintersday or Halloween content. All people did was grumble a little about the holidays for a month or so. Whereas this thread has been pure disappointment and even hatred for over a year.

No matter how you look at it, it’s in Arenanet’s best interests to just bring World 1 and 2 back if at all possible.

Because Wintersday and Halloween come back each year? And are only active for a month?

So what you’re saying is that people complain constantly while it is active, then stop complaining when it goes away. Since it comes back again as expected they don’t have a reason to start complaining about that.

Seems like this is more evidence that I’m right than that I’m wrong.

Not really. The bottom line is the reactions to recycled holidays aren’t nearly as bad as how people are feeling in this thread. So bringing back SAB, even worlds 1 and 2, would be to Arenanet’s advantage from a PR standpoint.

How not really? I have seen just as many people threaten to leave the game for other random nonsense that “breaks their immersion,” as I have in this thread over the ICC. They simply don’t do it for as long because there is no cause to when those things don’t continue for two years straight.

The simple truth is, they don’t have the personnel, nor time to spare on it. They can’t even do what they need to do to fix the HoM so that people can access it again because of HoT, they definitely don’t have the resources to make sure SAB works.

It makes sense to be here if you miss sab or want to talk about ways to bring it back, but why are you always here arguing against it?

Maybe because they don’t want dev time wasted on it. I know I know “just turn on w1 & 2!”.

“wasted” is a pretty mean way to describe dev time being spent making content that players have been asking for for over a year.

Kal Spiro.9745:

cleabh.5308:

Kal Spiro.9745:

cleabh.5308:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Then you have obviously not spent enough time on these forums. People will complain about anything. If they announced that SAB was going to be permanently opened the forums would be full of people complaining that SAB is stupid and detracts from their enjoyment of the game because it doesn’t make sense. There are a whole slew of people who find SAB to be immersion breaking and can’t stand the idea of other people who enjoy it being able to play it.

I’ve heard this several times before, but the number of players who’d be angry about SAB having no new content is a fraction of those upset, right now, that it isn’t here. They certainly wouldn’t boycott the game because of it, which people are already doing because of the broken SAB promises.

If you want proof, compare this thread to the reactions to the repeat Wintersday or Halloween content. All people did was grumble a little about the holidays for a month or so. Whereas this thread has been pure disappointment and even hatred for over a year.

No matter how you look at it, it’s in Arenanet’s best interests to just bring World 1 and 2 back if at all possible.

Because Wintersday and Halloween come back each year? And are only active for a month?

So what you’re saying is that people complain constantly while it is active, then stop complaining when it goes away. Since it comes back again as expected they don’t have a reason to start complaining about that.

Seems like this is more evidence that I’m right than that I’m wrong.

Not really. The bottom line is the reactions to recycled holidays aren’t nearly as bad as how people are feeling in this thread. So bringing back SAB, even worlds 1 and 2, would be to Arenanet’s advantage from a PR standpoint.

How not really? I have seen just as many people threaten to leave the game for other random nonsense that “breaks their immersion,” as I have in this thread over the ICC. They simply don’t do it for as long because there is no cause to when those things don’t continue for two years straight.

The simple truth is, they don’t have the personnel, nor time to spare on it. They can’t even do what they need to do to fix the HoM so that people can access it again because of HoT, they definitely don’t have the resources to make sure SAB works.

It makes sense to be here if you miss sab or want to talk about ways to bring it back, but why are you always here arguing against it?

So if sab were put into the adventure stuff coming out with HOT, we could feasibly compare completion times with each other right?

CureForLiving.5360:

RoseofGilead.8907:

Started out as such a nice post, but then it just turned into yet another “SAB PLZZZZ”.

All roads lead to SAB

El Sabiablo

CrashTestAuto.9108:

Birman.1705:

There is, however, one thing I must say in Arena Net’s defense and it’s that they are most likely understaffed. Severely.

The problem with this is that while yes, they might be too understaffed to develop SAB, it would take one employee about fifteen minutes to come on here and explain why W1 and W2 aren’t active.

If there are reasons SAB can’t be turned back on, fine. No one expects the impossible, and SAB shouldn’t be at the top of ANet’s priority list. However common courtesy to paying customers should be . Not telling us why we don’t have access to a service we paid real money for is shocking behaviour. Inserting the minis into the BLCs the day before the anniversary took this to an entirely new level.

A delay is both defensible and even expected at times. Giving a middle finger to your customers after making them wait over a year and a half for content they paid for is inexcusable.

My sab thirst would be quenched by something like, hey guys i just booted up sab on the current build and i noticed these problems during my 15 minute run through
: (insert problems here)
We are all pretty busy on HOT right now but we should be able to get to it after HOT releases as none of these things seem horribly difficult to fix.

Glenstorm.4059:

I don’t understand how the devs can make Illusionary Persona and Illusionary Elasticity baseline for mesmers, but force us to choose between the EAs.

PLEASE, PLEASE make a self-only version of Elemental Attunement a baseline functionality for us, and convert the GM version to extend the effect to allies.

Everything this guy said sounds awesome and perfect.

Third page sab is a sad thing to see.

lordkrall.7241:

pelle ossa.9705:

i remember that…. if that was a real reason im a pink quaggan….

See?
Even when they announce reasons for delays people simply claim that they are lying.

It is also rather silly to completely ignore the fact that the reward system is vastly different now compared to that announcement.

If people are going to complain either way, wouldn’t it be easier if they were complaining annndddd we had a release date for things?

Kal Spiro.9745:

I don’t even want a refund on the coin. It was only 600 Gems and I bought them with gold anyway. If they brought back SAB and reintroduced the coin it would probably be more than 600 gems, so I’m content with what I’ve got, even though it’s technically nothing.

For those still confused why anger of the minis is justified, it is because the released the minis just before the anniversary of the original release of SAB. This isn’t a matter of releasing the minis at a time the content wouldn’t be expected to appear. Nor is it a matter of releasing the minis for content there has never even been information about. They know full well that the community associates April Fools with SAB first and random April Fools jokes second, especially the SAB fanatics. Releasing the minis just before April Fools, without any information one way or another, is like releasing Halloween minis a couple days early or Wintersday minis a couple days early, then not doing the corresponding event.

It is a betrayal and devastating. They really should have put out a statement. “We are not bringing back SAB for April 1st. We know how much it means to you, though. So in appreciation of your support, here are the SAB minis. We are thinking about it, we do remember, and we do have plans for SAB in the future. Just not right now.”

People would probably still have Rioted in Rata Sum, but not a single person would have felt betrayed when SAB didn’t show up just like they said it wouldn’t. People would have been happy for the minis and maybe accepted that ANet is thinking about them. The lack of anything, at all, is what upsets everyone. No statement, no explanation, no sympathy. They’re cold and hurtful and makes it look like a cash grab to dupe the believers.

This guy is a good voice to listen to

I haven’t opened Guild wars for anything other than weekly guild missions with a fractal afterwards in like 4 months. And its not a statement or anything, there just is not anything that i want to do that badly. Sab would definitely have me logging in every day and cause my ps4 to get dusty

Dibbin.9620:

lordkrall.7241:

Gaile Gray.6029:

According to Colin Johanson, Guild Wars 2 Game Director, Super Adventure Box will be back in the future. We don’t have a timeframe for the return of the SAB, but we will be bringing back this popular content.

I know you would like more details, more info, a date, etc., but that’s not available right now. I hope the above comment reassures you, though, because at the core, the important answer is that yes, SAB will be back in the future.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Super-Adventure-Box-merged-1/page/14#post4456748

Oh, so they did. My mistake.

They did say that, but with the amount of times they have said in the future and taken two years, and the amount of time they have said in the future and still have not come through with aforementioned thing really makes it hard to listen to the people saying just wait for it and stop complaining.

lordkrall.7241:

Ah yes, because people would accept an answer like that……

Do you think the answer of we won’t give you refunds because it really will come back sometime in the future we promise is being received better?

Regardless of how good any of your points are, it’s all just a numbers game. They care more about the majority than what is actually true, so if more people complain than defend them they will be nerfed eventually.

CrashTestAuto.9108:

lordkrall.7241:

^ Why do people keep assuming that they are not releasing it just to annoy people? Maybe there are actual reasons for it? Such as bugs and such that needs to be fixed but being put on the very end of the queue due to being very low priority.

Because that would suggest that ANet value saving one employee the ten minutes it would take to explain that here than they do the satisfaction of hundreds (thousands?) of their paying customers.

This

Ayrilana.1396:

Therodin.2970:

People should just stop responding to Ayrilana.1396, your all making excellent points but if someone has steadfastly decided they disagree with you, you won’t be able to change there minds.

Goes both ways and I’m assuming they’re excellent points because you agree with them?

Yes

People should just stop responding to Ayrilana.1396, your all making excellent points but if someone has steadfastly decided they disagree with you, you won’t be able to change there minds.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Therodin.2970:

People who benefited from the bug already have all the titles they can get from it,

In her post, she mentioned that one of the goals is to change that, before re-enabling the HoM NPC.

In the most recent post? or an older one?

Guhracie.3419:

Therodin.2970:

Whose decision was it to put those SAB mini’s in the black lion trading post? Couldn’t the person who usually asks anet questions for us go ask that person why they wanted to hurt our feelings?

Because money.

That is very depressing

People who benefited from the bug already have all the titles they can get from it, what you are stopping people from getting is the items that they can buy with 39 HOM points the bug gave them. Thanks for the communication though.

Whose decision was it to put those SAB mini’s in the black lion trading post? Couldn’t the person who usually asks anet questions for us go ask that person why they wanted to hurt our feelings?

Did you know that every time sab comes back and angel gets its wings?

Eulolia.2467:

Well, this topic goes around in circles a bit, so here is some FAQ (or rather a Frequently Posted Interjections).

- Anet needs to focus on HoT content!
No content design is needed, they can just bring back what they already made.

- If they bring back just Worlds 1 and 2, it won’t be enough and people will just complain about world 3 not being released yet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope

- It was too hard and just annoyed players
Tribulation mode was pretty kitten hard, but Infantile Mode just involved running along the rainbow cloud motorway. Normal mode was somewhere in-between.

- World 2 was broken so they can’t bring it back!
World 2 launched with a bunch of bugs which were mostly fixed. Additionally the difficult parts on normal mode (the Geysers in 2-1 and the gong room in 2-2) were both nerfed heavily.

- SAB sucks! Don’t bring it back.
The return of SAB would not inconvenience you in any way, but be great for the people who enjoy it.

- It doesn’t fit the living story!
Haha!

So as someone who just +1ed you, what does that actually do?

CMM.6712:

Neox.3497:

CMM.6712:

I never got to play SAB, maybe I would like to, but the way people act is embarrassing, so I kinda like the idea of them getting trolled.

The problem is there is no reason for Anet not to add SAB as permanent content. World 1 and 2 are there. They are fun and I would love to play it with my friends.

It was explained in another thread that changes/patches to the game have changed the way it works (broke it) , as far as movement and combat, but I don’t remember the thread. I’d like to play it too, but I am not going to freak out about it and act childish.

Do you think other people have been acting childish about it?

So yeah at least someone is working on it

Do you think the people who’s opinions matter, get the info that the SAB forum is kept on the front page pretty much daily?

So i think a good question is if they truly can’t find the time to fix the problem, how long will HOM remain closed?

Oh anet up in the sky so bright, please give me sab tonight

Dibbin.9620:

Let’s just calm down everyone. At the end of the day it’s just video games.

Are you saying when we buy something, if its for entertainment we shouldn’t care about the quality?

“God kitten it i thought i was done getting killed by that grass! But nope here i go again on the dead grass train”

Ayrilana.1396:

Gene Archer.8560:

Ayrilana.1396:

What’s important is that they do intend to bring it back in the future.

Yeah, and they also intend to give us more and better communication.

Let’s go check up on the traits thread to see how that’s working out.

Please. Please just stop parroting their bullkitten. “In the future” was old and tired a year ago.

And they do give us better communication than they had in the past. They’re not going to respond as frequently as you’d like as they have jobs and then personal lives afterwards. We did get great communication in the traits thread that they’re working on re-doing it and we’ll see it with the expansion or near then. I’d have to look at their actual post to remember exactly what they said.

You may want to parrot that Anet “makes meaningless statements”, “doesn’t respect the customers”, and so on. They’re providing details based on the guidelines set by upper management. You may not agree with it, and want a concrete date, but they are not required to do so nor expected to.

I understand that you’re disappointed that they’re not releasing SAB like you’d want them to but this is no reason to make baseless attacks on them accusing them of not respecting the customers, just making a cash grab on players, and whatever else.

They have certain people that have worked on SAB. If those people have been busy on other projects, then they obviously are unable to work on SAB. There may be instances that seem perfect to release content such as SAB but if it hasn’t been developed, obviously it won’t be released. They’re likely all busy finalizing the expansion and getting it ready for release. Once that’s done, and they can free up people, we’d likely see SAB again.

Gene Archer.8560:

Ayrilana.1396:

They will also not release timelines for reasons that they have already stated.

And their reasons are kitten.

Just because you don’t agree with them does not mean that they are. The designation of whether something is “kitten” doesn’t rest on whether you believe it to be or not.

Those are all great reasons why we can’t have a W3, but do you have any as to why they shouldn’t release the already finished W1 and W2 once a year or so?

Zxavier Augistine.7312:

I never liked the SAB, every time it rolled around i found it boring and just went about my business ignoring it. However why is it that everyone is so up in arms over this? i get that people want content because the game feels stagnant right now, but everyday a new SAB thread is starting and its flooding the forums to the point where its out of hand.

Anet said they will re-release it when they are ready to, but the threats and the protests wont make them change their mind any faster. The whining and the entitlement make the community look bad. i don’t mean to sound like a jerk, but honestly all this anger is getting old and out of control.

I’m all for having fun content in game, even if i don’t like it, but there’s no reason act like bratty children who don’t get their way.

Do you feel the people with the infinite continue coin should just accept they got tricked out of money? Or had you not thought about them specifically?

Panites.6798:

Therodin.2970:

Are you any of those things you claim i need to be to make a comment about it? Both W1 and W2 were ready to play last time it was in the game, i can’t imagine it would need any changes to still be ready to play.

They were both full of bugs, you either didn’t play them of you are overwhelmed by nostalgia.

I played both worlds quite a lot with friends and guildies without experiencing any serious bugs, but im not old enough to be nostalgic about whatever you think i am.

Panites.6798:

Therodin.2970:

Why do you care if it comes back? Do you lose something by it being in the game?

Because i didn’t enjoy it, didn’t fit in with the games theme at all AND it had limited time skins. I didn’t say it should never come back, i said it shouldn’t permanent. Which i then gave valid reasons that you probably didn’t read.

It was a holographic training program for young asurans, how did it not fit in with the game?

Panites.6798:

Gene Archer.8560:

No, instead you whine about the “whining” and throw insults around. Congrats, you sure did prove your superiority, there.

Wait i’m not allowed to complain when someone clutters up a forum i enjoy with useless rubbish about them wanting back some limited time content, but its ok for people to make new threads about this each week including those who comment in this thread?
Superiority? When did i say i was better than you or that my opinions are better than yours? You just contradicted yourself by that comment thinking that you actually have a superior opinion than me. I described this thread, i didn’t throw insults.

Therodin.2970:

Why does them bringing back something they already made and requires no further dev interaction affect you?

Requires no dev interaction? Im guessing you are a game developer and have developed something superior to SAB? If not then your comment is void. Just because you want something doesn’t mean you should have it. But if i didn’t like it, i should just avoid it? I didn’t enjoy SAB i still played it for the skins, only because i knew it was a limited time event.

I’m pretty sure Anet have future events all planned to tie in with story and many other things, and they know people complaining on the forums are a small amount of the player base.
600 gems is 60 gold, its seriously nothing and was even cheaper when you bought it.

Did you also complain when KFC stopped selling double downs?

SyllyReth.2495:

I agree, it was terrible and such a grind it was mind numbing. I think it should be on a rotation with other big events like it and dragon bash on say a two month or four month rotation.

SAB would be just like any other dungeon with minimal people only doing it for reset rewards and getting skins over the next 2 years because they know its permanent and can wait.

You don’t have to agree with me in anyway, but you don’t NEED SAB. You want it. You don’t need gw2, let alone internet. Sure its fun but its not the end of the world when you don’t get something you want, that’s life.

Are you any of those things you claim i need to be to make a comment about it? Both W1 and W2 were ready to play last time it was in the game, i can’t imagine it would need any changes to still be ready to play.

Samhaim.8956:

Gene Archer.8560:

Ayrilana.1396:

Gene Archer.8560:

Ayrilana.1396:

They’ve said that they will when the time is right.

Which is a wholly meaningless and worthless statement.

No. It’s a definite yes rather than it being that they will never bring it back. You may not like that there’s not a specific timeline attached to it but that does not mean that it’s a meaningless and worthless statement.

No, it’s a meaningless and worthless statement because what does “when the time is right” even kittening mean?

When there’s literally nothing going on in the game?

When it’s been five years later and they happen to remember it’s a thing that existed that peopled liked?

How about five minutes before all the servers permanently shut down?

How about when the Sun is just about to go Super Nova?

Oh, I know! How about just before the heat death of the kittening Universe?

Something as vague as “when the time is right” can mean that ANet can NEVER find the time right, and as such, never have to actually release SAB, again, and on the tiniest of technicalities they could claim to not be full of kitten. It’s a bullkitten vague statement so they can worm around having to actually be held accountable.

Christ, at this rate, Half Life 3 is going to be a thing before SAB ever returns.

Accountable for what?
They do not have to bring SAB back. They never said they would when it was released in the first place.
I will never understand ppl that ask for a refund on the infinity coin, if you used it at all during SAB you are not entitled to a refund, you bought it and you made use of it. A refund would only make sense if you bought it and then SAB was taken out before you could even use the coin.

Would you pay extra money for an infinite version of something that you only planned on using once? Probably not, the fact that it is infinite and reuseable said that the content would be coming back again. They themselves set a 6-7 month period by releasing W2 6-7 months after the first one. What if you bought infinite harvesting tools today, used them all over tyria and then woke up tomorrow to find that they removed harvesting nodes from the world? They have not said they are not going to remove harvesting nodes from the world and then what if instead of a refund they just told you that when the time is right and it wouldn’t take away from the living story, they would reintroduce the harvesting nodes and you could use it again? do you think you would feel the same way?

Panites.6798:

A thread full of the same 25 people posting think they are the higher percentage of players. Im guessing at least less than 50% of the games population visit the forums, and also engage in map chat/say chat about anything let alone SAB. People hated it when it was introduced and loved when it was gone. It wasnt even good and most of the people who farmed it were happy it was gone since they spent so much time to get limited items.
This is how marketing works. Release something for limited time ie. back wings, SAB = more people buying/playing them than if they had them permanent.
Permanent gives the idea that people can do or get something later instead of now, which is not what a company that sells a product wants.

DOWN WITH SAB NEVER AGAIN!

Why do you care if it comes back? Do you lose something by it being in the game?

Im not really the screenshot kind of guy but i enjoyed sab quite a bit and would have farmed more of the colored skins had i known it was going to be such a rare beast.

But why would they ever say SAB is not coming back when they just keep saying someday and keeping all our money?

I don’t know why sab is not coming back but what i want to know is why they thought putting the sab mini’s in the blc was anything other than a slap in the face to everyone who would get excited for it….

</3 why must you hurt us?