Guild Wars 2

Seldorin.5962:

In my opinion, this is what single player games are for, unless you don’t mind missing out on certain things in MMOs. Part of the fun of an MMO (especially a franchise as visually driven as GW) is that everyone is different and can basically make themselves look however they want with what they have acquired and accomplished. I love the GW franchise special events on holidays and other times of the year. It makes me feel like ANet is an active influence in my gaming experience.

Sure, everyone can still look different while having all the same items, but part of what makes people admire something is the prestige, which was discussed earlier. One person might have a “prestigious” item from one event and someone else may have one from a different event and years down the road everyone will have different items but plenty to work with to (hopefully) satisfy them.

I don’t have everything I want in the game yet. I don’t expect that I will acquire everything from every event, but if I really want something I’ll do my best to get it. I’m satisfied with the current philosophy, but if I ever stop enjoying the game for whatever reason, I’ll just do something else. That’s life.

You have a very personalized opinion of single player and mmo which is not accurate for what they actually are.

In single player games, these “prestige” (I use that term under duress) items exists in forms of pre order bonuses, store incentives, event codes and limited time demo unlocks etc.

Curo.2483:

I’m sick of people complaining about “limited time only” things existing. That’s what life is. You miss opportunities, people will have things you do not. If everybody had exactly the same thing, there would be no value in having anything. I want to be who I am and have my real life and my life in the game shaped by what I experience in life. I lost a chance to invest in Apple before it became huge. You missed the opening round of SAB. Things happen, life moves on, and then other things happen.

Or, you know, it’s a game and not “life”…

Games are meant for entertainment. There are suppose to be goals and challenges, things to work towards and accomplish.

The idea that logging in at a specified time while completing a trivial task is something to be rewarded is an idea that I completely do not understand. Imo, it causes more players to be ‘turned off’ than the players who get their ‘ego stroked’ from it. (with probably the majority of people in the middle feeling indifferent)

A wise businessman or woman knows that 1 happy customer will never balance out against 1 unhappy customer.

I, for one, want to be able to play the game on my time table and not be ‘punished’ by missing out on a reward I fancy just because real life got in the way. I think it’s safe to assume no sane gamer finds that fun.

Keep in mind this is coming from someone who’s been at all the one time events and has gotten, more or less, everything that matters to me. So my opinion is not coming from being ‘bum hurt’ or missing out.

If Anet wants to keep to this silly policy, that’s their right and their choice. Likewise, as paid/paying customers, it’s our right and choice to complain about policies we feel are down right unneeded.

Killtrox.2019:

Question. Why do we have to care about harming a server and community? Why do we have to sacrifice our guild and fun to a community that is already dying? We are real people that spent real money on a game to have our kind of fun. kitten honor and loyalty to servers. We’re here for competitive WvW, GvG, ZergvZerg. T3 won’t have that for us. It wasn’t thoughtless or selfish. Selfish would be making my guild sit in a dying server while most of our guild members want to move out. Our responsibility as a guild is our guild not a server.

micro vs macro

I just posted a lot but deleted it. If you don’t see it, it’s because you don’t want to so I’m not going to bother.

In such fair weather there are a lot of nice places to go. Good luck with wherever you end up.

Fegelein.7026:

Not everyone shares your view of being “loyal” to a server for the entirety of the game. Some people find that honorable and some simply don’t care where they end up as long as they are having fun in the server they’re in.

Let’s not forget about all the fubar’d matches as a result of this ‘having fun’.

Waffler.1257:

Can’t say that I’m surprised, guilds that transfer when their server loses will always be guilds that transfer when their server loses.

mhmm

Server hoppers be hopping.

Nothing personal against the people of RISE (as I’m sure you’re good folk irl) but I’d be embarrassed to have my name part of a similar history.

So what’s the running WvW hopper damage now?
HoD ET IoJ CD SBI SoS and now KN?

Did I leave anyone out?

…and this is what happens when people start pointing fingers.

Let’s face it, we all have server pride. After all, all three of our servers are victims of mass transfers. We wouldn’t be here if we didn’t have server pride.

None of us like to be lumped into a negative label, especially when it only applies to a small fraction of each server.

All it takes is one person to point a finger for server pride to be challenged and then before you know it every server’s dirty laundry is being argued about as if it’s what the whole server is rampantly doing.

Please, let’s stop it and leave this kind of stuff to the other servers.

So man/woman up, stop with the QQ and let’s get back on track to what makes all three of our servers awesome!

fishball.7204:

Guys, the siege capper in question was with SoS even when we were in T3 vs-ing DB and Yak’s Bend. I verified this myself. Remember the 13 rams outside Veloka? Yeah that was him.

I don’t believe SBI or CD have anything to do with this nor do I believe DB or YB have either.

Thank you for this.

Every server has it’s <1% of hackers, exploiters, forum warriors and trolls. Not a week goes by in WvW that I don’t see it yet I don’t take it to the forums and condemn a whole server because of it.

I have a lot of respect for YB SBI and SoS. I much prefer those servers over some of the other options if nothing more than what the forum threads turn out to look like. However this drummed up b.s. drama really needs to quit it. There’s been an increase in ‘sore winners’ lately, imo.

I’m surprised at the amount of sensible responses in this thread. :o I came hear expecting to read the same old ignorant complaining about the same old jobs.

Anywho, my answer is I don’t think it’s so much a matter of over powered and more a matter of under powered.

That being said, a lot of people have already hit the answer on the head. No one job is OP and it’s really more a matter of how you’re going to play/what you’re planning on doing that would ‘dictate’ the go to job to use.

BlazeQ.1095:

My question is; what does Anet plan to do with this data? HoD got a huge influx due to free transfers as a “low” population server. This obviously killed their queue times. Since then it seems most of those players / guilds have left for this reason. Would it or would it not make more sense to offer transfers to several servers at one time with the lower queue times? Not just 2-3 servers, but more like 6-8 servers.

I’ve been thinking something similar as well. Anet should specifically control free transfers to try and balance out some population coverages in WvW imo.

The WvW tiers are mostly set as long as guild don’t merc out to another server. So if Anet looks within the matchups and tries to balance out the servers that’d be really nice.

Example: In any given tier, if there is a large discrepancy between top and bottom, Anet could open up a limited amount of free transfer spots into that server to try and balance the matchup more. Rinse and repeat until things fall into place and move onto the next tier.

They could also incentivize or limit transfers to only come from servers with a large margin over their tier.

I have Thief Engineer Guardian Elementalist at 80 with Warrior a few days away.

If I’m feeling like roaming I choose Thief or Ele depending on who I’m with(if anyone) and the situation of the maps. <3 speed when roaming.

If I’m running in a zerg, Guardian is really fun but Ele is too useful sometimes.

My Engi has fallen behind because quite honestly, I think it’s Anet’s redheaded stepchild and Thief gets too much hate still (which is unwarranted) which makes me leery of investing into it in fear of more future over nerfs. Honestly I’d probably main Engi or Thief if not for the lack of balanced development. <3 those two jobs.

TL;DR If I had to choose just one of the four I’d pick Ele.

I’m looking forward to trying out the OP War build link when I get to 80 though. But who knows what I’ll end up at with Mesmer being my next job to level.

Good thing siege isn’t allowed in the JP anymore. =P

Luvpie.8350:

Confucius saying ‘Those that can’t fight camp JP dark room.’

Confucius saying ‘Those who don’t JP camp mass zerg together.’ ;-)

Wow, so many posts already reported.

There is a “fourth man out” server in this thread acting like themselves as usual.

It speaks for the three servers in this match up though, all the drama is coming from a server in a different tier.

I like this match up a lot. SoS CD and SBI seem to have finally found it’s properly tiered brethren. Hopefully YB will be the alternate in this tier, I always liked those guys.

Fawnky.6215:

Toggles.1783:

aceai.4895:

Score Update. Looks like SOS has finally found its tier.

Speaking of…

What happened to SoS? Last time I remember they were winning(or at least fighting strong in) tier 1.

I don’t mean to bring drama, I’m honestly curious as to what happened. We just had a new born(two weeks early) two months ago so I’ve really been out of the whole WvW scene.

I don’t remember how long ago Anet opened free transfers to medium servers, was that what happened?

It happened after free transfers ended, I believe, due to bandwagoners abandoning the server. SBI was also abandoned in the same way.

Ah. I knew about IoJ CD and SBI, didn’t realize it happened to SoS too. =(

Pffft, who needs the bandwagoners… we’re having an awesome match just fine.

aceai.4895:

Score Update. Looks like SOS has finally found its tier.

Speaking of…

What happened to SoS? Last time I remember they were winning(or at least fighting strong in) tier 1.

I don’t mean to bring drama, I’m honestly curious as to what happened. We just had a new born(two weeks early) two months ago so I’ve really been out of the whole WvW scene.

I don’t remember how long ago Anet opened free transfers to medium servers, was that what happened?

This is kittens! Kitteny kittens of kitten I tell ya.

Seriously though, I hope they re-review this change, actually fix the problem and give bank transports back within the reach of us small guilds.

Awesome fight @ CDBL bay, keep it up everyone.

Josh Foreman.8250:

It’s 1 in 50.

Good guy Josh Foreman…

Works on a MMO

Straight up tells us the drop rate.

+1 interwebs to you, sir.

Randulf.7614:

The community asked for this improvement to drops and ecto gain every day since launch, loudly, often offensively. Anet listened and responded. I sort of know what you mean, but I’d much prefer the way it now is. It’s a little unfair to the devs to start complaining too much about the very things they changed because the community asked them to.

Completely this.

I totally understand where the OP is coming from, I thought the same thing myself.

However I much prefer this over how it used to be. We just need a few tweaks to flesh it out.

g e o.2589:

it’s not something new that many people complain about the game. They say that the game is not what they were promised would be. my question to you, why do you still play this game? there are lots of other MMOs out there. At least don’t bother the people who like this game, and if you have any suggestions how you would like to change “bad” stuff you can simply post it.

You are:

• complaining about complainers
• disregarding opinions that conflict with your own because they conflict with your own
• starting a new thread to reply to others
• criticizing people for not having solutions while your solution to them is “have a solution”

I… just… don’t… even… know…

sage goes in all fields?

To answer your question “why do you still play this game?”…

I speak only for myself when I say, because I paid for it. Just because it’s flawed and has some serious problems doesn’t mean it’s unplayable and/or complete trash. Despite all my gripes, it’s still one of the better options out there imo… it just could be MUCH better.

I’ll be honest, I thought people were b.s.ing when they said more and more guilds were forcing a 100% rep policy and that small guilds were getting flak from others when recruiting…

…until I started seeing it for myself.

I really hope Anet can do something about this. It’s causing an unneeded rift in the community.

balth just opened up on crystal desert

Shahotinaro.9250:

Is Blackgate still uncontested?

nope, balth down on blackgate

Firstly, I hope this doesn’t pan out to be another “Lost Shores” faux paw. The community and game took enough of a hit from that one.

Secondly allow me to tell a little personally story that kind of sucks.

Back when free transfers were closing up, my server experienced a mass exodus out of fear and panic. Eventually, my ‘big guild’ that I was in was faced with a decision and ultimately decided to ‘leave a sinking ship’. This then caused me to be faced with a decision, do I go with this large guild of new people who’ve I become accustomed with since launch or do I stay put on the server with my ‘small guild’ of IRL friends and family. Ultimately I stayed put which was the ‘obvious’ decision to me but was extremely hard to accept. (I didn’t want to have to choose between either and I never should have needed to)

Fast forward to this update and I think you can see how I’m feeling ‘kicked in the pants’ again.

Since the decision to stay I’ve been busting my tail trying to organize whenever possible to gain influence. It’s been long and hard (that’s what she said) but we’ve slowly been trudging through it. We devoted a lot of time in getting the guild to a point that’s (mostly) attractive to new members. We’ve finally had people stop instant leaving the guild now that 60% of the buffs are there.

Recruiting people, especially players who care about commendatory has been a very difficult thing to do at this point in the game’s life. I’m kicking myself for not having done this during the head start when there were a lot more people looking for a place to make their home.

Anyway, if expanding a guild with quality relationships wasn’t hard enough, this update really put the nail in the coffin.

In the past so many potential new friends would stop repping due to a lack of ‘constant buffs’ that would couldn’t yet maintain. I don’t blame them, after all we hardly had time to establish a relationship.

Now it’s become almost impossible to get new people to even join our guild for more than it takes to open the upgrade panel. People are aware of this update and they want to do the content, rightfully so.

Because of the huge disparity between large and small guilds, as in Matipzieu KyA’s posts, it’s really feeling like it’s a lost cause trying to build this guild anymore as there’s virtually no interest for new players to join us now.

Ultimately, I can’t help but think back to Anet saying something about no one’s play time is more important. Right now, with the current state of new guild missions I’m extremely feeling like the playtime of large guilds is more important than the playtime of small guilds.

With such an emphasis on scaling and making everything viable, the push to get players going back to previous zones, etc… I’m shocked at the outright polarization that this update has created.

Please fix it Anet.

Canar.2064:

Archer still making us look bad as a server. Sigh.

• comfort *

Unfortunately, it’s true. Even though it’s a few handful of players, it does ruin the thread and bring down a server’s rep. Especially when you enter a new tier that was previously having a three way lovefest the last two weeks.

Oh well, at least the reasonable people realize it’s just a choice few from EB and not the whole server.

Honnor.6295:

Toggles.1783:

Archer.1658:

Zerg zerg more zerg, zerg zerg zerg. Thieves that are perma stealth, rifle warriors who stand behind zergs, culling issues, what more do you want in this crap kitten tier.

Third post and already a “QQ” comment. -.-;

Anyone else missing SBI from our happy little threesome?

He does not represent Ebay server just one kitten of person at the game transfers for messing up his server so he takes it out on who he can, not his fault, and do not let his rage shine a bad light on the Team players of Ebay. They are good folks. leave it be.

Eh, you took too much liberty with/misrepresented what I said.

P.S. You must have missed the deleted thread of a different EB player trashing CD.

Fact: Drama that I didn’t see during the YB/CD/SBI weeks.
Fact: Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.

Archer.1658:

Zerg zerg more zerg, zerg zerg zerg. Thieves that are perma stealth, rifle warriors who stand behind zergs, culling issues, what more do you want in this crap kitten tier.

Third post and already a “QQ” comment. -.-;

Anyone else missing SBI from our happy little threesome?

Heinel.6548:

They’re the antagonistic drama queens that love rubbing it in your face when you lose, and crying foul when you win.

Quoted for great justice!

Habib Loew.6239:

Update 2/7/2013:

We’ve been keeping a very close watch on this week’s matchups and, despite our concerns regarding the recent population shifts, it seems that many of the games are quite competitive. At the same time we’ve been evaluating some possible changes to the math we use to calculate ratings. After examining a number of new methodologies for weighting the outcomes of matches we have found that our existing formulas already do pretty much what we want them to do. Certainly none of the candidates that we tried yielded better results.

In light of the strong community response to the idea of a WvW ratings reset, the results of our ratings formula investigations, and our data on the current matchups we have decided not to reset the WvW ratings at this time. All existing WvW ratings will be preserved and the rating calculation methodology will remain unchanged. Any existing mismatches should be corrected by the system in relatively short order. Now that there is less volatility in the player base for each world we expect the quality of matches to improve more quickly. This is both because the rating system is operating in a less unpredictable environment and because more stable teams tend to produce better results.

Thank you all for your feedback on this matter, and for your patience while we explored the various options. The community response was a key element in our decision making process.

This update has also been added to the OP.

Thank you. This is definitely the best course of action with the current NA rankings.

Johje Holan.4607:

What? How did CD take the lead? Score update with map please

I was sure Yaks was going to run away with it.

here you go

I have to say, it’s been a long time(I think mid Dec) since I’ve respected an opponent in a WvW match up yet here I am with two opponents that I deeply respect.

YB, SBI, I’m very glad to be round abouts the same tier as you guys and gals. Keep up the great fights and awesome fun!

CD, once upon a time was a top T2 server. Since then we’ve had many WvW guilds leave the server over many many months causing us to bounce around all over the middle tiers. Despite all that, CD is far from dead… even in WvW.

It just goes to show that servers can have fun, even in WvW, despite having those big name mass alliances.

This week, YB/CD/SBI has been a great match up and personally I’ve been having a blast.(as an opponent, SBI is far from ‘dead’ imho) A lot more fun than when we won T3 a few weeks ago with almost 100k over second place.

Some people play for prestige, other people play to have fun.

Please read this thread:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Ratings-reset-and-ArenaNet-s-disconnection/1363717
and reconsider this reset.

Once upon a time, I too agreed a reset would be helpful… but not now, not anymore.

morrolan.9608:

Minos.5168:

I’m sure they’ll be smart and not drop T1 servers down to T6.

And yet the logical conclusion from what they said is that that is exactly what will happen and they haven’t denied it.

If they continue on this path we need from Anet a specific justification well before reset addressing the quite reasonable points raised by players here.

Exactly!

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Coming-Soon-WvW-Rating-Reset/1313585

We expect several weeks of volatility while the ratings settle down but we believe that it will ultimately yield a more correct result more quickly than letting the current ratings persist.

Unfortunately, the bold part simply isn’t true. <3 them for trying though. (no sarcasm)

T1 servers dropping down more than one tier is exactly what “we expect several weeks of volatility” means.

Minos.5168:

Convenant.7092:

…this week, SBI has had the most fun they’ve had in weeks. This is at the price of several weeks of getting smashed. With populations now mostly stable, the trend shouldn’t change.

WHICH part of what you said justifies the rating reset?

I’m just not understanding what the opposition to a rating reset is…

It’ll be based off of the results from the current match-ups, right?

So whatever happens this week determines next week’s match-ups.

Which seems to be in agreement with what you said about SBI finally getting “stabilized.”

With all the unequal matches previously (whether due to population shifts or whatever), it’s clear that the prior ratings weren’t correct.

The opposition is, as far as we can tell, the biggest winners of this week will go on to face each other.

Example:
T5 Ehmry Bay is significantly beat the other two servers.
Likewise T8 Sorrow’s Furnace is doing the same.

Because these two servers are winning by the biggest margins, they will be in T1 next week(from what we can tell) facing Kaineng. ProTip, Kaineng’s population coverage is going to crush those two servers.

T1 JQ SoR and SoS, being one of if not the most balanced matchup, are splitting points and therefore (as of right now)won’t remain in T1 or even be in T2 next week.

The only saving grace to having a reset is if they weighted the scores for this week’s matchup… but then that kind of defeats the purpose of a reset. >_>

TL;DR: in today’s ranking, a reset will only cause more chaos than good because we have already stabilized. (for the most part)

Dockin.1745:

Their were several imbalanced tiers. Lots of whining about blowouts and “this isn’t fun” posts. Anet listened and is doing something about it.

Whether their action is right or wrong and whether it’s effective, we will have to wait and see. But I believe they are listening and appreciate the action on their part.

I don’t believe will have the huge migrations anymore due to paid moves which is a big plus for stability.

The problem isn’t that Anet is listening. The problem is their response time. They needed to be using insider knowledge to govern instead of reacting to player’s reactions.

What was drastically needed weeks ago in such a changing environment could potentially be the worst action in this week’s environment.

Look at the matchups right now. There are only a few servers that are a single tier away from their “sweet spot” with everyone else belonging where they are. A reset at this point is only going to prolong the misery from weeks past, not shorten it.

Convenant.7092:

Hi, I will rapidly prove how ArenaNet is completely disconnected from the reality of WvW that is easily observable through the Ratings Reset decision. This is important, because it is an issue that translates into a greater issue: the fact that ArenaNet is making wide-range WvW decisions based on volatile and subjective information. First off, what is this decision?

“…in light of the increased population stability that comes with paid transfers, we feel that this would be a good time to reset the ratings of all the servers. A reset at this point will allow the rating & ranking system to more quickly and correctly….” -ArenaNet

So all ratings will be reset, and new ratings will be calculated “normally in the way you’re already familiar with” – ArenaNet

They’ve also stated “We expect several weeks of volatility while the ratings settle down” -ArenaNet.

Let me run this down for you. The goal is to create more even matchups, at the price of several weeks of completely unbalanced matchups. The first question is.. are the matchups even? Let’s look at the NA boards for this week. Sources: http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

Tier 1 —> Sanctum of Rall/SoS/Jade Quarry --> VERY even, with JQ falling just very slightly behind in points. Overall very good fights.

Tier 2 —> BlackGate/TC/FA --> VERY even between TC/FA, with BlackGate having a lead over the other two. Overall very good fights.

Tier 3 —> Kaineng/Maguuma/Dragonbrand --> VERY even between Maguuma and Dragonbrand, Kaineng stronger than the other two during oceanic hours (so NA time fights are absolutely superb). Kaineng would be normally projected to go to T2 next week, where they would’ve found their proper tier.

Tier 4—> SBI/CD/YB —> Even between YB/CD, but SBI projected to drop another tier (normally), finding its proper tier and switching with Ehmry Bay.

Tier 5—> EB/IoJ/Devona’s —> Even between IoJ and Devona’s, EB projected to switch places with SBI, evening out bother Tier 4 and 5 matchups.

..etc.

The point is.. all current matchups are a GOOD fight right now, and no matchups observe a +560 for one server, and only +25 for the other servers. All servers have a fighting chance and are NOT being wiped off the map at this point, as will it be the case if the ratings reset. Why is this? Because the system worked, and the matchups did balance out, despite the transfers. This is the whole point of the system. Resetting the points is an absurd decision. Why are we to endure weeks of turmoil while the fights are balanced RIGHT NOW?

ArenaNet’s decision is irrational with its goal: resetting the ratings will create at least three weeks of turmoil, with servers getting crushed and morale broken, while other servers sit in boredom while they have to wait for ratings to be brought to its rightful state.. probably very very close to what we have RIGHT NOW.

Reset ratings —> a month or more before it’s perfectly balanced, lots of +560s and server morales broken or total boredom through domination

Don’t reset ratings —> matchups will be balanced within two weeks, and all tiers enjoy a good fight. Not a SINGLE +560, and all servers feel like they can at least do something in this matchup.

WvW matchups are perfect as it is, as is proven by.. well.. ACTUALLY PLAYING THE GAME, and making decisions considering actual facts easily observable through simply looking at the WvW scores. Please, spend some time correcting other issues.

I completely agree with this.

We did need help weeks ago when the matchups were horrible but that couldn’t happen because of free transfers. At the current state, ‘help’ from Anet is the worst possible thing atm since everything is almost as even as it can be.

TL;DR We needed paid transfers and a reset weeks ago, not now; not anymore.

Temple of Balthazar is open on Crystal Desert

LittleMusing.8257:

Just opened on Jade Quarry!

Thank you very much.

Ordibble.3092:

I think the real irony would be if the tiers were deliberately thrown into turmoil just as they were stabilising.

I think this is exactly what will happen. (unless I misunderstand Anet’s plans)

Anything less than short term matchups(like at launch) will end up hurting the rankings more than they’ll help.

Hugable.7160:

Hi All

Hugable Guild Leader of EsF (SG guild GMT+8)

Once more, CD has experienced it worse exodus of guids since the launch of the games.
We have lost the following guild LW, KH, LaZy, RISE,, GoF, KO, TG (NA side) and Val, Edmw (Oceanic side) to xfer as such WvW coverage has been significantly reduce allowing Kaineng to turn most of the WvW map blue. It is demoralising in a way, but EsF will still continue to field our numbers during formal wvw days.

To all our fellow ex comrade in arms, I salute you for without you guys wvw would not have been successful in all our past tier matchup. To all servers who have recruit them you have definitely an advantage.

So in the spirit of wvw, We EsF will continue to fight on. Win or loss let have fun in wvw

Thanks for staying EsF, know that you’re not alone. I look forward to CD stabilizing and coming together after transfer become paid. We’re a good server with a good community which is especially shown right now by those who are staying despite these ‘dark’ times.

Sovereign.1093:

Straegen.2938:

Sovereign.1093:

Meh, not much to do now, except try train our troop to improve since I think not many will transfer here if their sole purpose is wvw. But in PVE, it isn’t affected one bit. Way to many people roaming around killing those things.

CD will have to go some more tiers, and eventually it will stabilize.

Oddly the incentive to move to a server for PvE is about to be gone since people will be able to guest to any server in their region. The only reason to transfer this week is really WvW.

well, if you’re willing to guest every single day, then that is just fine. i want to see it happen first before guessing what will happen. ;3

wvw are not much, they make 10 percent of a server. or less even. ;3

FWIW, you don’t get the WvW buffs when guesting. It’s a minor point but it may matter to some people. * shrug *

Kerithlan.1659:

We want a strong third server in T2 after most of SBI jumped to SoR and ruined the tier.

Lot’s of that going around these days.

Stay strong YB and CD, better days are definitely ahead of us at this point.b

Chewablesleeptablet.3185:

Anet should have just implemented paid transfers without announcing

Yup!

…too late now. =(

Musty.3148:

I DO hope that they bring back 24-48 hour matches for a couple of weeks after Monday’s patch. Just to make the new “balancing” of ranks and tiers quicker.

Too good to be true. I’m not holding my breath on that one despite it being the only logical thing to do at this point.

There’s a queue into CDBL KBL and EBBL right now.

<3 CD. Keep strong guys!

Chaosx.2471:

sinthetix.8765:

Cord.5371:

sinthetix.8765:

Updated list of guilds currently on Crystal Desert, staying or coming:

http://nerdpickles.com/?page_id=13

Obviously, there are TONS of guilds not listed on there. I’m adding them as they are confirmed to me.

Mass exodus? I think not.

This guy seems to disagree, but those TC players are known scoundrels ;-).

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Tarnished-Desert

Yeah, that guy was jaded by a CD guild that went to BG anyway. 2 guilds leaving for TC (one no one really knew about anyway) and apparently we’re all exporting to TC? Bandwagoner/lemming mentality, whatevs.

Actually no, “this guy” wasn’t jaded by a guild that went to BG anyway….he and his guild were fed up with all the drama and backstabbing on CD, fighthing commanders, and one man trying to be King of the Alliance. It’s funny how yesterday you sent me an in game mail all nice and sweetness, and today you are on the forums backstabbing and calling me jaded….thanks for illustrating my point

And yes, it WAS an exodus, regardless of how many 10 man guilds you list on your little pickle site. KH (500 man guild), LW (500 man guild), RISE [500 man guild], LaZy (500 man guild), GOF [500 man guild] TG, and some mid sized guilds CYN, ORB, LORD, VAL, ESF, DH and several others are gone.

I wish CD the best of luck in the future, but gossipingbackstabbing players such as yourself are part of the problem in the community

If all those “500 man” guilds ever produced even 100 people on a regular basis, CD wouldn’t be where it is. Also, last night a few of those tags at the end were saying they’re staying, idk maybe something changes while I slept?

Anyway, good luck with where you go.

RyuDragnier.9476:

To be honest, I’m not sure on the gameplan, but it seems like my server is TRYING to get taken down to T4 so DB will stay in T3, and so you guys at FA are more likely to jump to T2 within the next 2 weeks so we can fight people who aren’t on all the time. Because to be honest, not only is it disheartening to fight a server that NEVER has a downtime compared to ours, it’s also not fun, since we can’t surprise you, we can’t catch you off guard, we can’t even sneeze without a large group of your guys appearing. You’re everywhere at this point.

I have to hand it to them. They really know how to move around in a zerg.

I laughed really hard this last week when someone on TS said something like “they move like a wave, it’s eerie”.

Gotta rock that culling before it gets fixed.

etrigan.4213:

Toggles.1783:

etrigan.4213:

Niim.9260:

etrigan.4213:

Just last week you were in first place in Tier 3. One week of losing isn’t reason enough to transfer.

I do not think losing was a factor with any of the guilds that have left.

Oh I think it is. Most definitely.

They rose through the ranks really fast, owned crap in Tier 3 for a bit, and then lose one week.

Bam exodus. Pretty big coincidence, despite any story they may try to spin.

Eh? Rose up the ranks? You mean after CD finally recovered from the instability transfers made when HoD and ET fell?

That’s not really “rising up the ranks” as it’s more “getting to where you belong”.

Difference of opinion. Either way the end result was the same. They lose one week, and fell apart.

I see, didn’t realize I was nitpicking. Sorry on that one.

I honestly think it has less to do with one loss(we’ve been beaten a lot worst than this before) and more to do with the unavoidable uneven matches that were incoming along with the fear that others would leave, leaving them ‘stuck’. A lot of guild didn’t “want” to go but felt they didn’t have a choice. (their words, not mine)

…but what do I know, I’ve only been on the server since BWE.

But hey, take credit for something you didn’t do if that’s what floats your boat.

etrigan.4213:

Niim.9260:

etrigan.4213:

Just last week you were in first place in Tier 3. One week of losing isn’t reason enough to transfer.

I do not think losing was a factor with any of the guilds that have left.

Oh I think it is. Most definitely.

They rose through the ranks really fast, owned crap in Tier 3 for a bit, and then lose one week.

Bam exodus. Pretty big coincidence, despite any story they may try to spin.

Eh? Rose up the ranks? You mean after CD finally recovered from the instability transfers made when HoD and ET fell?

That’s not really “rising up the ranks” as it’s more “getting to where you belong”.

Good luck guys. I always like you(TC) and it became extremely tempting to hop on over but alas, I must stay where I started.

To CD, I’m not too mad at you guys. Sure things could have been fine but fear is fear. I hope you find lots of success over there and I hope you prove my “server jumper” theory wrong. I’m rooting for you!