Guild Wars 2

No , nothing special .

MikaHR.1978:

nethykins.7986:

MikaHR.1978:

Illuminati.2431:

MikaHR.1978:

Illuminati.2431:

MikaHR.1978:

Illuminati.2431:

No, but you are talking about Anet monitoring numbers, and according to you, the numbers for ‘hard’ content like Aetherblade path are to low for Anet to make any new content like this.
All I’m saying, is that your way of logic: Anet’s numbers say not enough % of the playerbase plays this type of content, so why make more?, is wrong. Like I said, the numbers are totally not representable to the type of content, but they represent that if you make hard content that gives crap rewards, no one will play it.

Do you even read what I say before you rant on again and again? I never said that you said anything about Aetherblade path not being played. What I said was that when you used the Aetherblade path in your “Anet monitoring bullkitten” story, it is totally not representable.

But it is very representable.

It means you will do any crap if it has better rewards.

You are now saying it yourself:) It’s representable, yes, but for a whole different aspect for the game. It’s representable that a lot of players choose reward efficiency over challenge. Like you said:) But some guy keeps coming up with this that it is representable for the fact that players LIKE hard content or not. And it’s not representable for that.
The fact that’s it may or may not be played doesn’t mean we don’t want it. I think that from the whole discussion topic we can come to a conclusion that maybe the bigger problem lies in the reward structure.

Reward structure is fine.

If you want challenging content you have it. You dont want to do it. It IS representative.The end.

And of course they will focus what 99% wants and not what 1% wants. Man hours are very finite resource.

Yeah, ofcourse. I spent 2-3 hours on a way harder dungeon than regular dungeons, and I get the same or sometimes even worse loot than I would have gotten in regular dungeons. Yeah, that reward structure is fine.

If you enjoy challenge it is.

If its not about challenge it isnt.

Case closed.

I suppose you’d prefer content to have no reward tied to it?

Just a “Difficult for difficulty’s sake”

Nope, it shoud be exactly how it is, same rewards and you do what you enjoy.

If for nothing else, for the sake of constant proving people like in this thread wrong in claiming thers some huge demand when it isnt (there are still people in hard denial out there) and not skewed by bribing players with better rewards.

Its objective mesure, its like people measure 1 meter and you still argue its not and some your random measure is 1 meter and blaming 1 meter for being 1 meter. It may be cute in the start but it gets hilarious afterwards.

sry but games where everyone has everything are just boring . Maybe everyone should have very style just for loging in ?

MikaHR.1978:

Illuminati.2431:

MikaHR.1978:

Illuminati.2431:

No, but you are talking about Anet monitoring numbers, and according to you, the numbers for ‘hard’ content like Aetherblade path are to low for Anet to make any new content like this.
All I’m saying, is that your way of logic: Anet’s numbers say not enough % of the playerbase plays this type of content, so why make more?, is wrong. Like I said, the numbers are totally not representable to the type of content, but they represent that if you make hard content that gives crap rewards, no one will play it.

Do you even read what I say before you rant on again and again? I never said that you said anything about Aetherblade path not being played. What I said was that when you used the Aetherblade path in your “Anet monitoring bullkitten” story, it is totally not representable.

But it is very representable.

It means you will do any crap if it has better rewards.

You are now saying it yourself:) It’s representable, yes, but for a whole different aspect for the game. It’s representable that a lot of players choose reward efficiency over challenge. Like you said:) But some guy keeps coming up with this that it is representable for the fact that players LIKE hard content or not. And it’s not representable for that.
The fact that’s it may or may not be played doesn’t mean we don’t want it. I think that from the whole discussion topic we can come to a conclusion that maybe the bigger problem lies in the reward structure.

Reward structure is fine.

If you want challenging content you have it. You dont want to do it. It IS representative.The end.

And of course they will focus what 99% wants and not what 1% wants. Man hours are very finite resource.

I stoped reading after that o_0

Probably after www season ill leave this game for good . We have same situation like 2 months after release, nothing to do . I survived it once but I am not gona suffer another time . Living story 2 is crap and probably it will be till the end + no updates to www/spvp killed this game for me .

I completely agree with you . Anet numbers means nothing . When 99% of content is casual spamming 11111 all stats will show that people do more casual stuff becasue all we have are casual activities ! More difficult content has no rewards and it is a bit sad that AC path=Aether path o_0 maybe even on Ac you have more rewards . And hardcore content means that less people will finish it ! what is the sense of making hardcore content which 95% of people can complete . Then it is not hardcore content , content like that should finish 20% of population max .

Vayne.8563:

Stiofan.6720:

Vayne you make alot of bold claims about the gw2 playerbase saying things like most players hate hard content and that most players would never do it, I would love to know where you get your facts and figures from.

Long long experience with MMOs. The hardest core MMOs always have the lowest populations. Devs over the years have said tons of things on this subject, including some Guild Wars devs.

The most recent quote was from a lotro dev who claimed less than 10% of the population PvP and raided…not just recently but since inception. It’s not much different than many devs have claimed over the years. Maybe not exact percentages, but we’ve always had some idea that the hardest content is only finished by a small percentage of players.

For every competitive person out there, there’s someone just banging around in the open world killing stuff.

Logically speaking, if it were otherwise, why would MMOs keep dumbing things down more and more over the years.

10% of population but is it playerbase which plays everyday or 10% of people who bought game ? cause in every MMO around 50% people are gone after 3 months from release . I play now more dc universe and I will never agree with your 10% , it is much easier to find group on t6 content then on t3 . But anyway all stats in gw2 right now dont make any sense .all players who wanted content,challenge left this game 1,5 year ago and only casuals are left . Anet will never ever fix this game becasue 1 hardcore dung without rewards is not gona bring thousands hardcore players to their game .

sorrow.2364:

Harper.4173:

It isn’t.

The way I see it – grind is something you have to do – you have to get that best armor or weapon to progress.

Grind the way I see it is something you are forced to do in order to be able to progress further in the game.

With purely cosmetic rewards there’s no obligation to work for them unless you actually want them.
And why did you assume it’d be a grind?

If you finish a run and get 5 tokens it’ll be relatively easy to get the weapon you want. And if you just want that 1 token it could be made very easy to get.

By your logic legendary weapons are also a grind because you have to work on them for a long time – yet they are in the game.

Same with dailies – you get 1 laurel each day by doing a few things. Is that grind? Is someone forcing you to do it?
Are you unable to play if you don’t?

Grind is not something you have to do.

Grind is repetitive content done for whatever purpose.

You’re asking to repeat the same contents at least 60 times to get a rewards, so your are pretty much encouraging people to do the same content over and over to get to their goals. This is exactly the vocabulary definition of grinding.

Legendary weapons are not a grind because they don’t force you to do repetitive contents to get them.
The crafting materials are obtained everywhere, skill points are scattered anywhere in the game, globs of ectoplasm can be obtained in multiple ways. Even the dungeon badges can be obtained by either run the dungeon or doing PvP.
You can make a legendary countless ways and they are not at all the same content repeated over and over.

Making a Legendary is a time sink. Your suggestion is grind.

Of course someone can do the champion train or running the same dungeons over and over to craft a legendary, but the game shouldn’t encourage anyone to do so.

So yes it is grind for cosmetic update , it is completly. ok you dont want grind content ? Dont do it , quick and easy go do non-grind content and enjoy it .

I still think rewards shouldn`t be for everyone , when you cant kill this boss , you dont get loot from him it is really easy .
Same with living story rewards I was also dewasteted when Anet just gave away ls items and people were still crying “we want shatterer wings !” . I just wanted to say “(word with f) you ! you want it ? so you should be playing when rewards were available !”
In gw there is no possibility to show off or show your achievements . Even 1500ap player can look like legendary champion who mastered all game modes .
We need :
-visible pvp/www ranks
-true pvp rewards only for pvper
-true www rewards only for wwwers
-true rewards for pve(fixing pve is different thing)
but something to let people stand above the crowd . right now noob running cof p1+spamming 1111111 on world bosses get more loot then hardcore players who run arah/aether path/wwwers/pvpers

oxtred.7658:

God, this thread again? Why are you posting a new one every week?

Maybe to fix PVE after 2 years cause it is crap right now ?

Galowin.6089:

IMO, u’ve got 25 dungeon paths, and 8 story paths.
u’ve got fractals, a different kind of dungeon that scales in difficulty,
u’ve got world bosses like wurm and teq that u can spawn with a guild if u want to do it with ur own group
u’ve got wvw & pvp

endgame is not an issue imo….

90% of this we have since release and trust me players got bored of this 3 times

Vayne.8563:

VOLTCIEAGE.3029:

I think that if you want new content you have to wait for new MMO relase like TES . Then Anet was really afraid and we got in april patch megaserver,wardrobe etc etc . Maybe when blizzard will strike they will announce new content .

Why is it so hard to acknowledge that it’s only been 5 months since that patch and that programming takes actual time? During that time they were releasing in China which kept a lot of people busy as well.

There’s a perfectly logical explanation as to why a feature patch that had less time has less than a feature pack that had more.

Still when you look at two years of development , we have nothing . As a customer I dont care what happens in their company , I just see what I get and I have right to comment it and all I can say that it is crap , till april we didnt have good update . 1st living story was good 2nd is joke . I already said I preffer to spend my money in different games casue Anet is wasting full potential of this game .

I think that if you want new content you have to wait for new MMO relase like TES . Then Anet was really afraid and we got in april patch megaserver,wardrobe etc etc . Maybe when blizzard will strike they will announce new content .

Maybe after 2 years we will finally get build templates to switch builds on the fly

Vayne.8563:

What you have here is a good start, OP and I agree with your conclusions to a point. In fact, I’ve known all along that some people just want challenging content…like Liadri.

The issue becomes how many people are going to play that challenging content. This is where the rewards factor comes in.

Anet made a challenging dungeon, and it is challenging compared to other dungeons. I mean TA Aetherblade path is probably the hardest dungeon in the game. It’s not often run, because it’s not “rewarding”. And this is where the real problem starts.

In most MMOs, the harder content gives better rewards, which encourages people to do that content. Without the better rewards a lot of people simply won’t.

Which means those people aren’t doing hard content for fun, they’re doing hard content for rewards.

Rewarding hard content provides kitten and them situation. You get an upper class and an underclass in game.

The more you have of it, the more the new people and people who don’t really want to kill themselves to get a reward will feel disenfranchised…whether they’re wrong to feel that way or not.

This game works on a trickle theory. Everything you do trickles in. You get a trickle of rares and exotics, a trickle of tier six mats, a trickle of lodestones. Karma comes a bit faster and you can farm it, but at the end of the day, you’re not really going to be getting the “big” drops, because you can get drops anywhere.

What I’m trying to say is that if you make hard content you have to up the rewards and if you make that hard content rewarding, you run the risk of disenfranchising the casual player base, which I’m assuming is larger than the people who want hard content.

If you don’t make the rewards higher, then you have less people doing it and it becomes what TA Aetherblade Path is. A dungeon that took a long time to make but received only a little bit of use.

Put yourself in Anet’s place. If you make hard content and only a small percentage of the playerbase attempts it, or gets through it, would you keep making more hard content?

Casual playebase already has tones of casual content it is called gw2 pve . This should be normal that people who spend few hours mastering some really hard content should get better rewards instead of 2 blue 1 green

Harper.4173:

While i despise the idea of gear grind I have to say that this game does need more hardcore end-game content.

And the rewards should match the difficulty – I mean better rewards than other areas but most importantly exclusive rewards in the form of skins.

In a vanity-oriented skin-powered game we need more skins that say “I’m a super awesome and dedicated player” than just one set of weapons (Fractal Weapons).

We need things like UW/FOW in difficulty that come with skins that show off your achievements and also a better gold reward.

I’m not saying introduce more gear grind ( because I hate it too – and love that this game is not WoW 2.0) – but give people the chance to shine and be admired for their effort and skin!

But you will hear that players who dont do this special hardcore content dont get special rewards and it is unfair casue everone should have everthing . Community in this game is getting noobier everyday. When I saw people who wanted liadri mini in gem store because they couldnt kill true liadri , I just wanted to cry .

I think 90% of people dont understand word END-GAME , but also many people dont understand word RAID . When people hear these words they turn into whining auto-mode with same arguments no armor grind, casual game and bla bla bla .
What if I tell you that there can be some content without gear grind ?
What if I tell you that it is possible to have 10 man raids without gear grind ?

Endgame is what people want to do after getting level 80 , they want some challenge and ability to show off but very often in non-hostile way like gold star next on UI.
Raids! why we cant have difficult missions for 8-10 players ?! With weekly reward time gate ,we already have that gate on dungs and nobody has problem with that . So why not raids with much higer possibility of exotic drop or even ascended chest as last boss reward .

But yh lets comeback to crying about endgame armor grind, we dont want it !! why we should get any new content lets come back to champ farm and enjoy our epic end game content which doesnt need improvments casue it is so good .

Let be serious talking that endgame starts at level 2 and you create your endgame is just stupid argument . You can say something like that in every game . You finished new COD in 4 hours and there is nothing to do on single player , did you try finishing game with screen turned off and without killing enemies ? no enjoy epic content for next 1000 hours . Only white knights cay say something like that but anyway who cares about end-game when we have true PVP LEGACY after gw1.

Maybe Anet servers should finally start working properly , it is lagging as hell since last living story . They said it was DDOS attack but this attack ended long time ago and servers are still lagigng .

Actually it really hurts that Anet cant develop so many easy fixes already suggested by community for example visible cursor cause in www/masive fight people lose it really often . And it was suggested actually after first month of the game .

Have you ever seen movie “Idiocracy” ??

It was supposed to be comedy movie but actually right now it is documentary movie about current society . People are getting more and more lazy just look at the games which we have right now and games in the past . In the past nobody cares do you understand how to play this game , you had to find tutorials in the internet or games magazines , you had to spend few hours learning game mechanics very often outside the game . And modern games are full of spaming one button,beeing immortal and watching explosions on the screen .

Gw right now has really really casual pve even my gf who plays only sims,lego games and fb games didnt have any problem understanding game mechanics . We should also answear the question does it make sense to spend time/money/resourses to rebuild system for player who bought this game for 40$ and quited after level five cause he didnt understand down-mechanic rly ? of course that anet should place down/transform skills to hero`s page to let us learn some skills without going to transform/downstate and spaming in say chat linked skills , but things like that should be in normal ballance patch in every month !

And now what ?! upset player who left gw2 after lvl5 come back because he heard they changed leveling system and what he got to level 9 and quit cause he didnt understand weapon swamp ? cause in his favourite mmo something like that didnt existed ?!

I also heard that they wanna add arrow which shows direction where to go o_0 rly ?! cause player cant click map and look where is he supposed to go ?! I can bet 100$ that there will be some people crying that arrow showed them go left , but on the left side there was wall ! and they didnt expected to go few meters further to enter through the gate to the city .

I said that many many times that leveling in gw2 was/is really quick and easy when you compare it to other mmos so I really dont get it why they spend their time rebuilding it instead of creating some end-game content I just dont get it .

i want to see 300vs300 i really want to see that 0_0 1 fps per second and 1 hour skill lag 0_0 right now i have lags even on pve cause anet servers are so bad and they want 300vs300 0_0

squad should be different voice channel or they can just stay in guild channel

Azure The Heartless.3261:

VOLTCIEAGE.3029:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Conncept.7638:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Tryxtr.6295:

This has probably been brought up 30 times but I didn’t see it.

It’s simple. Green side almost always wins in EotM. And it’s not even close.

Why is this? Has Anet ever acknowledged the problem? And is there a fix in the works?

?

“Green always wins”?

I’m not quite sure I follow. (or want to).

EoTM is seperated in to three teams represented by a collection of servers organized as the red, blue, and green teams.

I know this. I don’t understand what the reasoning behind them “always winning” is, though.

Terrain advantage?
Boon advantage?

anything past that is skill and coincidence.

60 man blob vs 15 outnumbered people on blue/red side . Please if you dont play eotm better dont talk cause opinions like that are useless . Green blob is huge problem and they should rebuild eotm overflow system long time ago , so it wont create another overflow when green hit players cap and other sides are barely populated.

I’m just trying to understand the problem. I play WvW more than I play EOTM, and when I -do- play EOTM I am almost always green. No snippy please.

I was not aware of new overflows being created when green hits cap (with red and blue not filled), but isn’t that the only option if new -green- players want to join a full map? They’d just have to add joining red and blue players to the previous map instance with the green cap, correct?

(If that isnt being done already, in which case it should be.)

i am also mostly wwwer but sometimes it is nice to go play brainless train without thinking . playing in eotm when you are not green just doesnt make sense . Green create 6 full maps and other sides got maybe 20 people on each map , skill doesnt matter when enemy just blob you with 3 times bigger numbers. Why they dont put people in every side doesnt matter what color your server is , just make eaqual numbers . there are no communities in eotm anyway .

i suggested it few times and still nothing , just look at their development time .
-they wont develop it
-they will and release it after 3 years (2017 yh voice communication in multiplayer game yhhh)

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Conncept.7638:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Tryxtr.6295:

This has probably been brought up 30 times but I didn’t see it.

It’s simple. Green side almost always wins in EotM. And it’s not even close.

Why is this? Has Anet ever acknowledged the problem? And is there a fix in the works?

?

“Green always wins”?

I’m not quite sure I follow. (or want to).

EoTM is seperated in to three teams represented by a collection of servers organized as the red, blue, and green teams.

I know this. I don’t understand what the reasoning behind them “always winning” is, though.

Terrain advantage?
Boon advantage?

anything past that is skill and coincidence.

60 man blob vs 15 outnumbered people on blue/red side . Please if you dont play eotm better dont talk cause opinions like that are useless . Green blob is huge problem and they should rebuild eotm overflow system long time ago , so it wont create another overflow when green hit players cap and other sides are barely populated.

they are working on something big , they cant talk about it now but when they will release it,it will be awesome .

just kidding , ballance patches are normal in games but it is not normal in gw. maybe one day they will fix it but dont count for it .

And now story based on true facts , my friend who quited gw2 3 months after release. We were together on ts , he was bored and decided to turn on gw again .
-"my friend " lol you switched to guard from your necro !
-yh nobody needs necro in party so I switched to guard
-ooo they rebuilt hero panel , you can finally see all your stats and dont have to count them on paper
-yh dyes are now acc-bound and there is wardrobe when you can change your look
- ahh it looks like dc universe one
-yh similar but you pay for switching styles
-lol even in dc it was free
-but you can finally use finishers in normal way
-you mean how they should work since the beggining
-yh exactly , did you see new www map ?
-no , ooo finally new www tab , you can see your queue number wow such a revolution

after 30 mins of pvd
-“my friend” are we gona do something beyond hitting doors ? but good that we are doing something good for server
-it doesnt count to www score
-so why (word on f) we are doing it ?
-people level chars here
-omg i hope normal www is still playable it is good they added masteries and ranks it should be since start(i just showed mercy and didnt tell him that it took them almost 6 months to make ranks account-bound)
-yh and finally on pvp there are rewards
- wow in game called guild wars after famous guild wars game with great pvp , there are finally some rewards for pvp
-yh but these are dungs armor -
-crap(he said something different) this horrible looking crap , did they add any maps ?
-yh they added 2 and deleted 1 but both those maps are so bad that lets dont comment it
-what ?! in game with only 4 maps they delete map ?! are they serious ? did they add any content ?
-yh they added few new fractals and there were many good living story episodes with epic battles , like marionette or la battle
- wow we can try this mario
-we cant they deleted it
-so battle
-also cant it is gone
-man dont tell me about events which are no more here
-we can try new living story
-ok finally something

He is zerker warrior and I am zerker guardian on pve , we just run through living story
-“my friend” so this crap talking instances are entire ls ?
-there are dry tops , new map
- oo cool lets try , so what are we supposed to do here ?
-follow blue dorrito and keep doing events
-and what we get with higher tier on this map ?
-actually nothing , items in vendors are cheaper
- what ? god lets leave this map nothing to do , so after 1 year and 9 months of development thats all what they added
-yh they rebuilt also some runes etc but all games have ballance patches in gw it is called content

Others friends started coming and we switched game , this story is based on true experience how returning player saw gw2 , so many update content that I had no idea what i am supposed to show him , we need true content which keeps players. I think most people play gw because they dont want to pay for other game but if it still makes you happy good for you , for me only www/pvp is still fun but with current lag spikes this fun ends very quick , precisely after first dc on www .

I like this game there are many good game modes,awesome combat(there should be more ground/direction targetable skills to make it more difficult) but for gods sake WE NEED PERMA CONTENT . First living story was for me one big chain of events and btw they are in other games too,but I liked it maybe because this game was still new for me . Second living story is just bad , it is good that they try to increase difficulty with bosses/enemies but it is full of instanced bla bla talking then facerolling keyboard bla bla talking o_0

For me this game since april patch didnt change at all , same thing everyday no new content/updates even ballance fixes o_0 thats why I preffer to spend 10 euro per month in dc universe then gw. I know that in dc ill get new dlc every 2 months(new raids,dungs,armor,missions for 2 ppl, new zone with daily quests etc etc ) and in gw ? nothing/null/zero , for some people maybe it is funny to run in circles spaming 1111 beeing in masive blob(dry tops) but for me 2 years after relase no no no

I am just curious how many hours/months all happy people got on their timmer ? 5 months maybe 6 ?

sry for mining this dead thread but some people said that it doesnt make sense to show www rank on UI because there is ktrain(eotm) and people there get so many ranks for pvd that eotm player will have higher rank then wwwers . Acctually I did small research and people in eotm dont have super high levels , actually true www have few times bigger rank then all pros from eotm . For 18 cmds which I met only 4 had both applied buffs(stren/vita),5 had only one buff and rest didnt have any .Lets dont talk about their cmd quality because it is one big joke but it is also train fault . It is really difficult to lead when only 5 people follow your tag and rest is spaming some range skills,building ac or who knows what they do . Train ranks probably are much much much worse . Most followers dont have any buff and when cmd drops siege they dont have mastery , even basic ones like ram master . It is really pathetic when in 60+ blob there are no people with cata/ram master o_0 probably mortar,canon,balista they have never seen in their wonderful www career .

I still think anet should reduce www xp by 25% in eotm but showing www rank still makes sense . (dont forget about pvp rank we need them too !!) And right now playing in eotm isnt that easy when you are green everything is fine but blue/red sry always outnumbered it looks like roaming vs blob . There isnt much loot ,xp for these sides .

PS commanders who took part in this study where leading for 1h+ I didnt count all 5 min heroes who bought tag and even cant lead ktrain.

LostBalloon.6423:

Nay, (but Yay for something slightly different)

I think this is not the best way to address your concern. I think the best solution would be build templates like in GW1 or an improved version.

-> name template
-> saves weapons, armour, trinkets & trait selection

There have been threads asking for such a thing..

people are also asking for possibility to take utility skill in elite slot and also no response.
But about templates and hotm bank I think Anet complicates everything too much .
Players asked for bank in hotm and instead of just placing it there , they start huge thread that there should be restrictions to it with (lvl,money glory) but nobody cares about it , there is access to banks via www or crafting station and only poor pvper are on lost position . they still dont have bank and they are asking for it since april update.
Same templates instead of giving us any templates they start talk about 3rd party softwer,linking it etc etc who cares ?! we just want any template , come on after 2 years we still dont have any .

thats why I suggested more fields+finishers on all chars and self blasting will affect in much shorter duration ,self boons<mate boons

It is tactic they created bigger lags on purpose and in feature update they will remove it it is just brilliant idea

Green blob incoming maybe first lets fix EOTM and lets get rid of colors, so people will be asigned to the side with the lowest numbers ,becasue playing eotm as red/blue is just horrible .

Some people say that competive part of gw2 is end-game , thank god pvp/www dont have any updates . No there is no endgame/late game/lvl80 game /max lvl game call it how you want but it is true there is no content which would keep you and keep yealing at you "you have to play , you have to ". And pls dont tell me crap like endgame is what you create(my favourite) , you can say something like that in every game EVERY :mmo,fps just every game .
-there is nothing to do ? did you try leveling your char to 80 without killing just resing ? see how big content for 1000+ hours you have ?

nope sry if you guys see fun in repeating content where you stand in massive blob pressing 1 good for you . Same dungs broken zerker mechanic,running from one corner to another , just sad . Why we dont have bosses like liadri which requires tactic(somebody kitting mobs,somebody using canon anything ) nope lets faceroll our keyboard till boss dies .

I already said that WE NEED COMBO REBUILD
-more combo fields+blast so every profession would have few fields and blasts
- when you execute blast for example you get might for only 7 sec on yourself but for 15 sec on teammates

This system would require much more teamwork then just solo placing fire field+2 blasts+leap and yoohoo tones of might , no more solo running in water field !
But to let this system work some classes like necro must get more fields+more finishers for example healing well would be water field.

maybe we should ban not their amulets,weapons but accounts yh !!! come on it is mmo you gear your char , set skills etc and then what ? you hear that your entire build is useless and you have to play healing thief because there are no more options ?!

on 15 people there is maybe one positive opinion , this idea is just bad , same as banning same professions ( you can have 5 eles and all of them will have different build and they can wipe enemy team)
we just need balance patches to keep everything balanced to something like this

but anyway what you expect with this thread ? Anet will go to tts and tell them “hey guys dont use ts and dont switch maps because some leechers want to get free loot” ? They can use every communicator they want and they can switch map so many times as they want , it is their game and you are just random guy whining that you cant play with them .

lets wait for duke when he would complain that guilds requires website to apply to them or even better why he has to use web browser to check gw2 forum it should be built in feature !!!! rly dont like tts and how they require ts ? create your own guild and dont use ts .

Teamspeak should instal together with this game or should be build in .

I dont see any problem with wurm or kitten . My www guild together with another www guild do both bosses on weekend for loot/achies and casual activity . And it is working good maybe instead of crying that there are organised guilds try organise your own run ? You think that all theses guilds,tactics were created by itself ? It is a lot of work of some people to achieve community/guild like that .

butch.8136:

Drop the game for 3-4 months and check in for the next feature pack. They’re working on a new pvp mode, league system, build templates, precursor hunt/craft?, etc. If it’s not in this one, it might be in the next one.

the problem is that they are working on their big projects for 2 years 0_0 maybe they are working on gw3 already

Spira.4578:

Jski.6180:

Just because you do not want it dose not make it any lesser to add to the game. This week is about new players next week is about old players get over your self and wait for the full info until you go off.

Beyond that you CANT have things said in the forms during the update info and thing it will comply changes what they are adding these things have been in the work from the last big update like this and they are off of ppl views back then. The NEXT update will be about ppl views now this is just part of mmorpg.

Next week won’t be focusing only veteran players. It will just affect them. The point is – at this rate, they could at least be focusing on features that would be targeting every player, not just new players in general. Like i mentioned before, guild functions, wvw, spvp, those are all features that should be prioritized today, since most of the players are already passed the leveling phase.

some people already passed ranking phase !!! how many pvpers have rank 80 ?! how many people have www rank over 1500 or some time ago appeared first diamond legend !! We need updates to keep players playing not updates which makes people come back every 2 weeks for 2 hours .

yh I think we need option like GvG , let me show how i see that .

Every month guilds using influence/merits or any currency will sign up for Guild Battles .
It would elminate all small troll guilds created by 9 year old kids who wont fight in any battle becasue they dont have numbers,players etc.
They have to sign up separately for every gvg type 25vs25 , 40vs40 etc.
During signing up guild will chose time zones when they can play (they have to pick up min 3 or more for example they tick Monday 19-22) or match ups would be based on the most guild activity time .
After signing up you recieve schedule etc.

FIGHTS
it would be instanced version of this zone in obsidian sanctum maybe rebuilt a bit . People with special permision(like queue updates etc) will enter this zone and they will be able to send invites to chosen guild mates .
There will be 5 rounds . Round will end when one team is wiped or when they give up . There would be special button which appears when there is player ratio like 8vs2 .
Winners get guild commendetations or other currency .
There will be leaderbords with guild rating etc etc etc.

Andred.1087:

VOLTCIEAGE.3029:

Vayne.8563:

Spira.4578:

Vayne.8563:

I’d love to know, OP, why you think you know what’s better for the game and the community than Anet.

Just curious. I think this new patch, particularly the last bit, is REALLY important.

Because the community has been complaining about that for more than a year now and kept defending anet too. After almost 2 years, I’m starting to lose hope too.

The only important part of the patch MIGHT be the last one. Every other part of it was just welcomed additions but nothing that players actually asked for.

Players definitely 100% asked for better frame rates and performance at big events. They asked for account bound commander tags and colors. They asked for a better crafting UI.

In fact, most of the stuff in this patch was asked for along the way. I’m not really sure why you’d think otherwise.

The last page, yesterday, wasn’t asked for by long time players, but there have been plenty of complaints about how the game doesn’t teach you anything and even several large threads on tutorials.

the only problem is that those improvments should be done in first or second month after release not 2 years later ! and we still dont have perma content which we can play everyday .

So they shouldn’t be bothering with these improvements at all? Just because they’re overdue doesn’t mean it’s a waste of time to implement them.

Also, in general response to OP and most of the people complaining about the feature patch, it’s a FEATURE patch, not content. To sit there and say “why are you working on this instead of putting in new dungeons and maps?” is ridiculous. Most of what the veteran players want is not features, so yes, this update is not that interesting to us, but they have to know by now that we’re bored, and I’m sure they’ve been trying to figure out what to do about that for a while.

they should add features like that but come on , things like that should be updated every month without hyped announcements

-leveling in gw2 is one of the best and easiest levelings i have ever seen
-crafting 99% of people just level it to the max using google guide and even have no idea what they are doing then they craft one item and leave it 4ever because like in 99% of mmos crafting is useless and it is much easier to obtain better armor/weapon from other activities . The only exception is ascended armor but still after 2 daily crafts you already know what to do .

there are so many aspects which should be updated in this game and the worst thing is that most of them can be done by IT student for few beers in few hours (account-bound cmd tag with different colors 0_0 )

oh god pls we need improvements in pvp and restricting classes/build wont help it . First we need balance patches+new maps+game modes and then maybe some features . If you want to play LOL and ban champions go play LOL it is gw2 and it is called MMO not MOBA , right now my team and I have to wait 10 mins to find enemies on team queue and now what we are gona wait 30 min for single game ?!

I think we should have build templates(lets say 3 on our hud ) and we should be able to switch them when we are ooc . But we shouldnt be able to switch chars . I already switch my builds when I am roaming on www and it is great fun when you attack 5 people kill 2 then run away switch build and hit them even harder when they try to res ,so much fun and then you can see how many bad players play this game and only spam burst skills to nuke down enemy .

Vayne.8563:

Spira.4578:

Vayne.8563:

I’d love to know, OP, why you think you know what’s better for the game and the community than Anet.

Just curious. I think this new patch, particularly the last bit, is REALLY important.

Because the community has been complaining about that for more than a year now and kept defending anet too. After almost 2 years, I’m starting to lose hope too.

The only important part of the patch MIGHT be the last one. Every other part of it was just welcomed additions but nothing that players actually asked for.

Players definitely 100% asked for better frame rates and performance at big events. They asked for account bound commander tags and colors. They asked for a better crafting UI.

In fact, most of the stuff in this patch was asked for along the way. I’m not really sure why you’d think otherwise.

The last page, yesterday, wasn’t asked for by long time players, but there have been plenty of complaints about how the game doesn’t teach you anything and even several large threads on tutorials.

the only problem is that those improvments should be done in first or second month after release not 2 years later ! and we still dont have perma content which we can play everyday .

there should be tones of stuff in gem store skins/weapon skins/toys look at dc universe when you compare their market to ours it looks like gw is dead . where are new missions,dungs,events,raids,new maps,game modes,pvp/www updates ? i think I would preffer to spend 9 euro per 2 months and recieve some perma content then wait few years for any content

or maybe trait 25% boost when you have melee weapon , warrior can have it so why not guardian

Maybe lets get rid of downscaling and lets have upscaling so I dont see lvl 2 enemies but I see lvl81 enemies and i see my normal hp,normal dmg not some 1,5 crits on ac

There is golden rule DEAD=WP dont lie on the ground for 10 mins you are useless , on www you are losing fight , on pve you are scaling events and dont help

Stephane Lo Presti.7258:

The Feature Pack announcements will continue next week and some of them will definitely contain information that’s relevant to those of you who’ve been playing the game for long. We won’t tell you about them until the articles are live though, to keep the element of surprise!

-www update ?(more ranks we have already first diamond legend ,visible ranks,squad system )
-pvp update(more ranks,visible ranks ?) ?
- new elites or just let us take utility intead of elite ?
-new skills/weapons/traits ?
-gvg/new pvp game modes ?
- balance patch every 2-3 weeks ?
-precursor hunting ?
-new dungs,raids any perma content for teams ?

we have no raids dont know why ,raid can be content for 8 players like in dc universe with 1 week loot timegate but anyway
-no raids
-no new dungs
-no new skills or maybe finally let us take utility to elite slot
-no build templates
-no pvp,www patches (rainbow cmd tag pls we really need that ?! where is new squad system , www updates nothing )
-no gvg
-no perma content(or maybe empty dry tops where pugs running from one event to another one can get to tier 4,5 or even higher )
-no new weapons

And all we need is NEW LVLING SYTEM hell yh I only have 5lvl20 scrolls,221 tomes and already have 4 chars on lvl 80 . People who starts playing dont care about it and they will level to 80 without your updates but they will stop playing like rest because there is no new content .

so you were learning skills INDIVIDUALLY ? on all my chars i just unlocked skills during one combat and then I was checking how they work dont expect ultimate skill knowledge from lvl15 new comer , he will learn how they work or he will be pressing 1111111 and then come to this forum to whine that content is too difficult and he cant 111111 anymore