www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP-iNnCpqrY
—>This build is op because of its damage. This sort of damage is why elementalists can be super tanks and still deal oK AoE or target damage while super healing. in this case the damage is plain old to high.
Oh, THAT build again. It’s kinda funny, I’ve tried it myself. Too bad anyone who can move will dodge the combo :P
The ele is using 3 arcane utilities, berserker and has 0 points in water. This is NOT the tPvP build that everyone is using. And there’s a reason they’re not using it.(Hint: 13k HP+light armor+no escapes other than RTL).
Not even that good in PvE either. The cooldowns make the burst kinda useless compared to the lightning hammer 1 spam.
And about elementalist AoE being high: that’s pretty much the only damage the elementalist has(except for a few abilities which are kinda useless). There’s nothing that can be done without completely destroying what’s left of the elementalist’s DPS builds and making their single target damage laughable.
I think everyone has mentioned already that damage isn’t the problem of the ele DPS builds(the burst is actually pretty good if you count in that it’s AoE) but the problem is that the survivability of those builds is TERRIBLE. The recent changes are just pushing eles more and more into pure bunker specs because the active survivability and mobility keep getting nerfed(mist form, ride the lightning…).
I just don’t get what weapon set is supposed to be for DPS if all of them are supposed to have terrible mobility. Maybe it’s time for a new weapon. Something WITHOUT heals so there’s no problems with bunkers using it.
Just look at how broken the engineer class is. It’s garbage.
…and yet every patch they find a way to nerf it more.
It’s a nerf to ele’s that RTL away, and then come right back for more over and over, just be sure to save RTL for when you want to leave a fight and not look back… It’s fine.
Naw you’ll still get caught no way around that.
To the OP we don’t get buffs. Devs do not come here and say that they are looking at fire and air. They don’t say that they are looking at staff. No one mentions focus. TBH excuse my language but they don’t give a kitten. DD ele has been a target for so long that getting nerfed into the ground could only be expected. Staff hasn’t received any love in months. Focus “Who gives a kitten about focus?”, seems to be the status quo. And scepter gets attention here and there but noting meaningful. Don’t expect buffs they aren’t coming. I do not say any of this with anger or resentment or anything like that. If you don’t expect them then you can’t be disappointed.
To be fair they feel other classes are in a more dire situation so they get more attention. Ele have needed toning down for so long that we have been prisoners of a balance team that never comes and talks to us. That’s our situation.
As this guy said: don’t expect any fire/air trait buffs or reworks. There have been a ton of suggestions that look pretty easy to do(making that 30% fire field duration trait in fire into a smoke field after the fire field ends, turning the minor traits into actual dps traits instead of a mini fire aura…) but it seems they don’t want to/don’t have the time to test them.
Month 7. Eles still don’t fit their class description…
“Elementalists are multi-faceted spellcasters that channel elemental forces, making fire, air, earth, and water do their bidding. What they lack in physical toughness, they make up in versatility and the ability to inflict massive damage in a single attack.”
Judging by the patch preview month 8 will be the same.
Activating a conjure should make it available like an engineer kit so we can switch in and out of it. Until it uses up charges or time runs out at least.
That’s the biggest problem with conjures. They have a couple okay skills on them you’d like to use, but it’s not worth locking out all of your skills for and it definitely isn’t worth sitting in the weapon waiting on cooldowns to come back up for.
What this guy said. You’re basically using up your utility slot for an ability isnide the conjure BUT you get double cast time because you have to activate the conjure and then the ability. And that’s with a 60s/180s CD.
At least making them instant cast would be great.
Wowowow i agree that the changes for next month are horrible, and i also agree on most of what u said, but…. “One of the lowest dps classes in the game”? completely wrong, i mean, realllyyyyyy.
As a d/d ele who plays seens btw1, i can assure u that d/d ele, if build properly, and played properly has one of the HIGHEST dps in the game.
My ele right now is full zerker (except weapons, knights) and im doing 10k+ with fire grab, earth 5 10-12k, 6k with fire 3, 4k with fire 4, and most the time i reach 2k with air 1 (2×2k=4k in fact) and im not getting those numbers with high stacks of vulnerability. If u do your combos properly, and u equip the proper seals on your daggers, u can keep 20 might stacks all the fight without any problem, and ofc u can get 3 auras wich means infinite fury. Even just building some might and spaming air 1 u ll get more dps (read damage per second) than many other classes with zerker gear and dps builds.
So you are probably talking about bunker d/d eles, or builds close to that.
I also hv a full zerker warrior, dps guardian, zerker mesmer, and zerker engi, and if i could hv a dps meter… im almost sure that my ele can be close on the top, and also giving a lot of might, heals, and bring some really useful control abilitys, etc.
Just wanted to clarify that.
I can do a lot more damage on my thief compared to my ele. I decided to make a thief 1 day to check their traits and weapon abilities and noticed how incredibly high I was hitting.
And if you think a 10k fire grab is a lot… I’m too lazy to find it but there was a warrior with a screenshot of a 30k+ kill shot. Add that to the DPS of 100b on their greatsword and I’m pretty sure the warrior can outdps us in PvE. You can get dps near the warrior’s with fiery gratsword/lightning hammer but those reduce your survivability, have cooldowns and aren’t very effective in PvP.
Also a big part of the problems of the ele DPS builds come from the low survivability you have to have to do burst similar to other classes.
I’m using Mistfire wolf for WvW atm. Maybe it has a higher cd than my elemental but it’s hits for more and doesn’t die in 2 hits.
The other 2 elementalist elites are just “kick me” signs in WvW. Or at least I see them as that :P
Yeah, we need some better elites or the option to put a utility in that slot.
GL in the next tier, RoS. A lot of our fights were very fun.
I doubt AS will need a lot of luck vs Vabbi and FoW :P
Let’s see how the next matchup will go.
Also Wryog, I’m with them on TS near permanently when I’m on my pc (even out of GW2) and they never had more then 16 people online. But we rarely do guild runs anyway, we invite everyone who wants to join on TS and play as a server, not as a a guild.
Hey, if we judged numbers by players on TS then WAR would have a total of 7-8 people online normally and WBC would have a max of 15-16 :P
Dat WSR comeback of 20k points difference to 2nd place
You managed to come back from such a dire situation, almost being forced into the pit. All by yourself.
And I find this disrespectful. You do know that not everyone has a ton of free time and some people have busy lives, right? We get jumps like those only when a lot of people manage to clear some time off on a certain day.
Also WBC having 35 ppl raids? We usually have 35 ppl online, 38 today with the last few joined. The most I’ve seen was around 25 people in WvW from our guild at the same time. Also WAR has a LOT more members than WBC, they’re rarely organised when they’re on though.
Yeah, we do WvW events, can’t be every night though(that’s when you actually notice WAR’s numbers). Can’t tell people to stop working/going to school to play GW2.
And about the cooperation, we basically have a few big guilds and each uses a different TS. This kinda sucks for our pug zergs but keeps the TS clean.
Don’t worry we’re going back to T9, hope you’ll enjoy your next matchup with Blacktide….
Isn’t Blacktide stuck in t9 because of the rating fail? I don’t think they’ll go up unless anet sets Vabbi and FoW’s ratings.
Also, RoS, please keep the arguing in the t8 thread, ok? Don’t want AS to come and start posting too.
And to get back on topic: we really need more people who have free time during the week. I think we proved this weekend that we’re big but we’ve got almost no players during the week(except for the evenings).
Yeah this is how we outman you and ally against you!
You just took a screenshot of yourself rushing into a fight between WSR and AS? Is that your proof that you’re less than us?
And judging by that buff that screnshot was taken in the weekend. I’ve got pics from today where both WSR and AS have the outmanned buff in EB.
Crying? No, I’m just pointing out that you were wrong when you said we were more or as many as you. We’re more only on the weekend when everyone is free.
Oh, happy that you got our EB keep now vs a bunch of outmanned defenders while still using golems?
Yeah. I see how outmanned you are.
Only you aren’t with an outmanned buff in EB. Even AS has the buff right now. Stop lying to yourselves about numbers.
The number difference between WSR and Surmia is really not that big, the only difference is our people have high morale because we’re winning the matchup & won previous matchups.
Nah, it’s not losing that’s making everyone lose their morale. Lack of rewards from WvW is more likely. That’s just a reason though. The fact is that if we had all our WvWers really active we would have the same numbers. Right now… not so equal.
Ahem…
Seriously. Stop making posts like these. Why are you even commenting on grammar?
That’s not grammar.. That’s spelling!
You spelled “past” as “passed”? Ok…
Are we done with the English grammar discussion? Look at what Zeal wrote just because of all the QQ about using proper English on a forum.
Hello angry WSR players.. i just very quickly want to throw in that i have over 10 screen shots of WSR COMMANDERS from [WAR] asking me for an allaince so you have NO right to denay that. And if u think were both ganging up on you then welcome to HIGHER TIERs where all 3 servers fight for points not kills your easy points so we crash the house and secure them Both RoS and AS can see this.. oh and SM is always a 2v1 who ever controls SM gets focused so please get used to that and dont post comments with utter bullkitten
1. WAR has been pretty inactive(except for that attack on AS borderlands), only a few of them are playing right now.
2. I don’t think anyone was arguing about SM being 3-way. Mostly about our borderlands.
Oh, I’ve also fought in T1. Want to know what won in T1?
Time zone coverage and numbers. Things WSR lacks atm and is losing because of that.
http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#mcsc9VMRmhMMRmhMxaa0GokbocVR
This is pretty close to what I used for leveling. I suggest switching to staff before Orr because there’s risen with condition removal there. Lots of them.
And for lvl 80 PvE I use http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#mcsMz9mMMmbMMRmhMx0G0GokbcmVz . Lots of fire combo fields and finishers to keep up the might stacks. I was thinking of changing Salt Stone to Bolt to the Heart since it should increase my dps by 3-4% according to my calculator(didn’t really do any calculations on how the passive stat gain/loss would affect my DPS since there were wayyyy too many things to check).
Edit: Oh, and about the gear – a mix of power/toughness/vitality and carrion or berserker(I’m using carrion).
Not sure if anyone’s mentioned this but Dragon’s Tooth(Scepter Fire 2) can be cast on targets behind LoS objects. Noticed this in WvW when I managed to cast a Dragon’s Tooth on a person behind the door. Also worked on people up on the walls(couldn’t see them).
your easy points so we crash the house and secure them