But one solution would be to revert the changes that made orr so empty. And from there you can do the more exciting and rewarding stuff
It’s certainly one of the options we discussed, however it brings us right back to the initial problem we set out to solve, a large part of the player base was asking for more exciting and difficult open world content in our top end areas. The original version of Orr events were painfully easy, they didn’t scale well, mobs evaporated into thin-air and you had to race to even get a hit in before they died to get credit for kills.
The ideal balance point we’d like to have is with the scaling and more exciting encounters we have now, so it’s actually fun and at least remotely challenging to play there, but also rewarding as well. The reward systems we want to roll out to support those areas are part of a larger reward revamp and aren’t done yet, but are on their way and tie more strongly into the comprehensive system we’re trying to develop, thus the swap.
In regards to regular mobs hitting for insane damage, we did find a bug about a month ago causing many of them to scale way out of proportion, it has since been fixed and normal bosses in Orr should be doing damage on par with other bosses in the game. If you find any that are still nutso, please give us a shout, the intent is they should be fun/challenging, not one-hit-wonders.
Hope that helps give more insight into what we’re trying to do here, these changes are directly tied to feedback we’ve received. You don’t have to agree with them, but it’s important we explain why we’re doing them so folks understand the end goal, which I don’t believe we’ve reached yet until the rewards are there as well.
And now off to do that work thing, thanks for the feedback folks, as always keep it coming we really appreciate it!
That’s what dungeons and factions are for.
why should orr be so hard to plz the elitist when there not there anyway now.
The place is empty most of the time(on most servers),where are these so called players that want a challenge?
I tell you where on this forum complaining i want things harder but no intentions of playing there.
I agree with some ppl here put it back to the way it was.
if ppl or guild wants a good harder challenge go do the dungeons that’s what they are there for.Also they have guild challenges now as well.
It’s us solo/pug players that are suffering all the time with these stupid updates.
This is meant to be a casual game not an elitist game.
Even wow had it right,if you want a big challenge go do the dungeons or raid.
Solo players can just carry on doing what they like doing in pve environment.
Many ppl i know are thinking of moving over to rift and tbh i don’t blame them,as that’s f2p now at least there pve environment is a lot fairer to us solo players who don’t want to join guilds just want to enjoy the fun without the impossible champion one shots.
Don’t get me wrong i love this game,but even i feel maybe it’s time to move on for now unless things changes for the better.
btw grenth has not been done on the server i’m on for months now,that must tell you something,when it was always done,before that stupid patch.
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I cannot see gw 2 coming on consoles any time soon tbh.
for a start don’t microsoft charge for updates?
that will cost anet tons in the long run as gw 2 is always updating.
If it did happen though,i doubt we would get cross platform.
as pc players will always have a big advantage anyway.
I would rather not have it tbh.
It breeds elitism,i still remember wow days with gear score.
and this game is not as taxing as wow raids so no need for it.
The only part I hate about Grenth is, if the priestess for whatever reason is drawn near Jonez, it’s kitten hard to draw the priestess back from him…you have to basically have EVERYONE, even the randoms that decided to join, to run to the back or else she just turns aggro to someone else nearby and keeps spamming AoEs.
Basically, if the priestess is past the middle of the room, you might as well start over :P
It’s not the priest.
We can kill him quite easy.
it’s phase two 1 min before the end champ wrath appears and jones wants to fight him.
Games over as it one shots everyone.
But still the events should be more fun rather than having skilled players/guilds do it for us all the time.
if you want something challenging as a skilled group,like i keep saying that’s what dungeons are for.
I just went to la said grenth up,just to see what reply i got.
the reply i got was sod grenth stupid event and always fails.
yeah going to la really works then.
I have guested,and most of the servers i been to was contested.
so again i should not go guesting to do an event when i’m on a full server anyway.
it just shows ppl are avoiding these events now.
and sticking with the 10x easer ones the dragons.
Also earn what?
A stupid rare that’s worth peanuts.
i do the events for fun not a stupid rare,but where’s the fun when no one is doing them or you/npc gets one shotted all the time by champs.
If i wanted easer rewards i would do the dragons all the time,and not complain on the forum to make these temples and other areas scale better and be more fun.
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Ppl are not going to spend over 3 silver to goto to la then 3 silver to warp back,then having to run all the way there because there is no portal near by.
ppl like to make money not spent it warping to places to get ppl.
Also you keep missing the part where i said we have enough ppl anyway,but the champ wrath still does us over by one shoting us and the npc.
After so many fails ppl don’t bother doing it again.
Also If a lot of servers are avoiding it then something is wrong.
Anet needs to look into the prob and fix it so many server starts doing them again.
also it’s not about us wanting easy mode it’s about us wanting fun.
these events are not fun now there more frustrating.
I’m going to ignore your replys from now on,as your opinion means nothing when many servers are struggling to do it or not doing them at all now.then something is wrong simple fact.
Most of us want fun events not Frustrating events.
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So, the answer is, if you want to have fun in Orr, leave your server?
No, the answer is to organize people to get kitten done on your own server. And if you really want it that badly and nobody else gives a kitten, go guest somewhere else if it means that much to you. As already stated, most of the temples can be done with about 5 people. The only exceptions to this are Balth and Grenth which are also both very easy if done right. For Balth, just get more than 1 set of reinforcements and make sure to AOE spam like crazy when the nobles appear. For Grenth, just AoE spam the kitten out of everything especially where the NPC is so that you immediately pull aggro away from him. These events aren’t made to be done by 3 players, how anti-climatic is that? Just go ask people in the maps and cities for help, or go ask your own guild or other people’s guilds for help. More-than-likely you’ll get enough people willing to help, then it’s all up to your skill. If you know what you’re doing, you’ll be fine. If you don’t, then you don’t deserve to conquer the temple.
Then why are they always contested on many servers?
That’s right because there a lot harder and grenth impossible with the one shot champ aoe at the last min of the event.
Hence why ppl don’t do them now on most servers.Of course they’re harder than they used to be, just like they should be. And the reason they’re uncontested is because everybody wants the reward with no effort put into the process. Nobody cares enough to go and say “Hey Lion’s Arch! We’re trying to capture (Temple Name here) and we could really use some more help!” because it’s easier to just complain on the forum about it being too hard just like you are doing right now. If you know how to properly pull aggro off of the NPC in time then you’ll have no problem with him getting 1-shot. If he still gets 1-shot then you – the players – are doing something wrong.
People don’t do them because nobody organizes the people.
You don’t have a clue or never done grenth lately.
we have enough ppl but 1 min before the end the champ wrath appears with his massive aoe and kill jones and us in one shot.
Also why should we run to la and cost us silver just to ask for more ppl and prob get abuse in the chat as well as the event failed in the mean time,with the messing about getting ppl.
The events are meant to scale are they not?
Just because your server can just about do it,does not mean every server can.
I wish we all had a good guild to carry us,because thats the only way grenth would get done with a bit of luck i might add.
like i said you want a challenge do the dungeons that’s what there there for,but don’t rune events because they seem easer in your eyes.
as for the rewards a rare item wow i would rather not have it,as you get the same reward doing the dragons that are 10x easer.
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Go play on a more populated server then. I play on Tarnished Coast and every temple gets taken at least once a day. I also never see any of the 3 Orr zones empty. It’s either your server or your timezone that’s causing your problem.
Nope on des server its more pve than pvp.
There are plenty of ppl.
The temples were done all the time untill the stupid ninja patches,now they don’t get done at all.Maybe your’s gets done once a day prob by a skillful guild,but even once a day is pretty low.
they should be done all the time.
Also moving server or guesting is not the solution now is it.
it just shows they are too hard for the adv pugs simple as that.My god they are borderline brainless easy as they are. Some tweaks could be used on a few (glass NPC’s in escorts are no fun) but the last thing GW2 needs to do is make things easier. My guild quite regularly attempts the statues, Lyssa/Dwyna/Melandru always get done why Balth/Greth depends on how badly pugs draw enemies to the glass NPCs.
You can do many of the staues with just 5 players. Here’s a guide for the lyssa statue, grab 4 freinds and go for it with this stratagey:It’s grenth that’s the prob mostly other can be done.
but still grenth with that aoe champ right at the end that one shots the npc don’t help.
but still they do need toning down,as they never get done now.Where as before they always got done.
So that alone shows ppl don;t want to do them because they are harder.
like i said if you want a good challenge with your mates you got the dungeons.If you want things to get done, then go organize a group. Get your friends, their guildmates, your guildmates, random people in LA, ask the people in all 3 Orr maps, and you’ll have more than enough people to do it as long as everybody knows what needs to be done. Instead of making content easier so you can faceroll everything, go organize some players to work together and get kitten done. Things in this game don’t need to get any easier, and the temples are already easy enough to the majority of players.
Then why are they always contested on many servers?
That’s right because there a lot harder and grenth impossible with the one shot champ aoe at the last min of the event.
Hence why ppl don’t do them now on most servers.
Go play on a more populated server then. I play on Tarnished Coast and every temple gets taken at least once a day. I also never see any of the 3 Orr zones empty. It’s either your server or your timezone that’s causing your problem.
Nope on des server its more pve than pvp.
There are plenty of ppl.
The temples were done all the time untill the stupid ninja patches,now they don’t get done at all.Maybe your’s gets done once a day prob by a skillful guild,but even once a day is pretty low.
they should be done all the time.
Also moving server or guesting is not the solution now is it.
it just shows they are too hard for the adv pugs simple as that.My god they are borderline brainless easy as they are. Some tweaks could be used on a few (glass NPC’s in escorts are no fun) but the last thing GW2 needs to do is make things easier. My guild quite regularly attempts the statues, Lyssa/Dwyna/Melandru always get done why Balth/Greth depends on how badly pugs draw enemies to the glass NPCs.
You can do many of the staues with just 5 players. Here’s a guide for the lyssa statue, grab 4 freinds and go for it with this stratagey:
It’s grenth that’s the prob mostly other can be done.
but still grenth with that aoe champ right at the end that one shots the npc don’t help.
but still they do need toning down,as they never get done now.
Where as before they always got done.
So that alone shows ppl don’t want to do them because they are harder.
like i said if you want a good challenge with your mates you got the dungeons.
This also punishes ppl who just got to orr as well,it’s not like they have the best gear to cope with that.
Also prob puts them off staying there or doing the temples.
if you want hard mode do the dungeons.
Also i did guest in the past on a few servers only to find they don’t get done there as well.
again just shows ppl don’t do them because there to hard now.
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Go play on a more populated server then. I play on Tarnished Coast and every temple gets taken at least once a day. I also never see any of the 3 Orr zones empty. It’s either your server or your timezone that’s causing your problem.
Nope on des server its more pve than pvp.
There are plenty of ppl.
The temples were done all the time untill the stupid ninja patches,now they don’t get done at all.
Maybe your’s gets done once a day prob by a skillful guild,but even once a day is pretty low.
they should be done all the time.
Also moving server or guesting is not the solution now is it.
it just shows they are too hard for the adv pugs simple as that.
The temples never get done now.
Been months since grenth has been done,infact its impossible to do tbh,unless your a skillful guild and lucky.
The place is almost empty on the server i’m on,where it used to be full.
Granted many farmers have jumped to southshore,but still there is only so much you can do there before bordem sets in and have to move area,but orr seems to be the last place ppl want to go now.
This game is meant to be fun,i see no fun in orr atm,with it being empty most of the time that alone must tell you something is wrong.
Plz fix it,just put it back to how it was.
These vets/champs takes the Michael.
If ppl complaining it’s to easy back then where are you now? i guess it’s to hard for you so jumped ship.anyway that’s what dungeons are for if you want a good group challenge.
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imo ppl should work to be a commander.
for instance the points we get to put in sieges and stuff has to be maxed out as well as getting top rank,also a ton of badges and a small price.
Then they have the right to get a commander tag.
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I like the idea of taming/care and feeding of pet companions.
get a rare pet for the ranger and have to feed it over time.
That way we can get unusual pets for our rangers.
This has happened quite a lot of times for me.
Mostly in sm,yet i was in the ring at all times and even helped killing the lord.
Not sure why it happens but it does happen a lot.
I really want to play more,but with these changes i’m finding myself playing lesser and lesser.
I just don’t find it fun with these op vets and champs.
I have all 8 chars lvl 80 most of them done story mode,yet i only ever had one drop of a mob and that was low lvl area,a few from story mode on all chars,not had any from map completion yet.
i wish i had the ops luck.
Maybe i need to do more map completions.
hehe i could not think of the name at the time but yeah the champion wraith,
Tbh i don’t care for the rng,but i do care that the champs can one shot you.
that alone is taken the fun out of the game.
Also temples like grenth takes the ****.
Since these changes,six of my mates have quit and now i hardly see anyone in orr in the mornings.
yet grenth has still not been done in two months now.
Anet is walking a fine line,if they keep losing players they will be losing a lot of buyers for there store.
the buffs are just way too much and they know it.I never thought anet would stoop this low..
The event itself probably wouldn’t even be so hard if the game didn’t decide most of what spawns there will be invisible. Even when you have enough people to defend the NPC, they can’t do much if the game isn’t acknowledging the things they need to fight even exist.
at the end of grenth an un-dead champ ghoul appears and it does massive aoe,kills the npc in one shot.also npc wants to attack it as well.
We have no trouble seeing it,but we have trouble countering it as it one shots everyone inc npc.
Disheartening after all that work,only to fail less than a min at the end of it all.
As for the response the dev said for elite players,that what the dungeons and the dragons are for.
No error msg normally mean his psu degrading.
I would test another psu if you can.
Not liking these gimmicks.
Fix wvw not put stuff in that will make it worst.
After spending time to take a camp and get supplys only to lose it getting out of the camp,or players putting loads around the doors so we can never build.
This is Stupid.
What happened to the team at the launch that knew what they was doing?
All these nerfs,and overpowered champs in pve makes me think that there out of touch with what we want.
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Since these changes,six of my mates have quit and now i hardly see anyone in orr in the mornings.
yet grenth has still not been done in two months now.
Anet is walking a fine line,if they keep losing players they will be losing a lot of buyers for there store.
the buffs are just way too much and they know it.
I never thought anet would stoop this low..
Tbh it should have been the dragons that got a buff,not the temples.
grenth is impossible to complete now.
Troma, I have great respect for you and the things you have done but this is far from what I remember. You can easily look up some of the old match-up threads and see that I wasn’t alone in that.
When SFR came up to T1 (I think it was in december) we were not a real superserver of guilds. We had some really good pug organization and some good guilds to complement that. The first time I saw 1 Vizunian, he had at least 40 of his closest friends with him. (This was when culling was still a thing so we had to run circles around them to try and count). This kept up for several weeks, the only Vizunians we saw had huge numbers with them or were running away from us. Vizunah Square will forever be the best server at playing the WvW game but that does not mean they are the most fun to play against nor that they did not zerg before it became popular.
Saying that the huge blobs and zergs were only a counter to the second coming of SFR is a blatant lie. I read most of this matchup thread still but usually I refrain from posting. However I could not let this go without saying anything, especially since I have come to expect better from Troma.
I’ll go lurk some more now.
3 primetimes a day (NA/EU/RU) and not a superserver… are you kidding me ?
I’m not, we hardly had any queues at first, even with those different timezones. PRX was the only NA guild and despite that they were really good and had a great impact. They have always been overvalued by their opponents from their time on SFR.
No, SFR was not a superserver. I even remember that people were making fun of SFR back then, saying that they would never make it.
This is quickly turning into a kitten contest again. That was not my point for returning to posting here. There is no point in discussing the old SFR anymore.
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Your kidding right.
Any server with that amount of numbers 24/7 can dominate.
(taking towers when everyones asleep for the points)They have skilless players anyway,even when we had lower numbers compared to there 40+ zerg we was wiping them with ease more often than not.
I would not go as far as saying they are the best wvw players.
I would say they have the best numbers 24/7 thats all.
Btw Skill does not come in numbers.They never had numbers 24/7. When I ran along PRX for some nights they were never alone. Never was Vizunah truly asleep. Most of the night was PRX and the Vizunah zerg playing cat and mouse with eachother.
Nice job on insulting those players. That wasn’t uncalled for at all.
This truly turned into a kitten contest, even before I posted it. Sad
Sure i got screenshots.
This is at 2am when we lucky to have 15-20 players on eb and this is viz every night.
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/908/gw033x.jpg
Like i said they only come out when the odds are against us.
Also not insulting those players it’s a fact they only fight when the odds are against us.
it does not take skill to do that tbh.
wvw is a mess atm even i’m going to stop playing until we drop down at least.
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@Caliban.3176
Your kidding right.
Any server with that amount of numbers 24/7 can dominate.
(taking towers when everyones asleep is the only way viz gets the points as by the time we wake up there all upgraded so hard to get back with there numbers.)
Even when we have lower numbers compared to there 40+ zerg we was wiping them with ease more often than not.
I would not go as far as saying they are the best wvw players.
I would say they have the best numbers 24/7 thats all.
Btw Skill does not come in numbers.
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I’v had 5 today all from different addresses.
I just put them in my spam folder.
I’m sure anet won;t send us that type of e-mail anyway,they prob just suspend our accounts and we have to contact them.
tbh i hate doing dungeons with pugs,but all the work i done on the living story i had no choice but to team up.(thanks to wow days.thats why i hate teaming up with pugs)
I did enjoy the dungeon lucky for me i had a good pug team for a change.
I would like to have done it with hero’s,but tbh there is no way the heroes would survive the way this dungeon works.
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i’m sure there is a timer on dead ppl anyway.
after x amount of time if they don’t spawn they warp back to la.
but i do agree the timer should be a little lower.
Also grenth after spending time killing the priest and his shadows,might i add it’s not that easy.
then sec phase if grenth gets sneezed on he dead.
What a pain going though all that for him to die so easy.
Why did he get a nerf that bad?
It’s not like doing grenth was easy task anyway.
No they are char based always have been.
Just checked yes char based,i can still get the same ones on my alts.
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hmm well the devs response here is different than what your saying.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/tech/Eyefinity/first#post1931540
If the UI is on the wrong screen, make sure your center screen is setup as your primary display. I believe this is set in the Windows resolution settings or the Eyefinity setup wizard.
Regarding the switch to “cram” the UI on the center screen:
This is how the UI has always functioned on Nvidia Surround. We never had support for AMD graphics until now, so now they both function the same, using the same code.If there are issues with the current functionality like the UI not scaling correctly at different sizes, we’ll look into it.
Well that suxs then.
I used my alts for the sieges to give to the commanders,as it’s a great help for them.
With all my alts they would get 16 or more a day off me more inc using the badges and that not counting the other ppl doing it to give the sieges as well.
So now wvw has got a lot more expensive,expect face rubbing most of the time now.
Getting sick of these unnecessary nerfs.
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I would like to know how these scammers got our e-mails in the first place?
Anyway i got a new one today different than the normal ones.
Gw 2 questionnaire.
The usual stuff click this link and log in and answer the questions bla bla bla.
I just hope ppl don’t fall for these stupid scams.
tbh i would be disappointed if anet dropped the price now.
As i already bought 2 sets,and spent a long time farming the gold to get them.
but yes we buy them for looks.
Also tec they can be more expensive as you have to buy the trans stones as well if your unlucky not to have any left.
bought 8 for all my chars.
some cash some in game gold.
Tbh saves me the messing about when mining only to find out i’v run out,or cannot equ another one because i’m in combat.
it’s worth that alone.
But i do agree it should only be 400 gems at least,but oh well at least i never have to worry about them running out now.
I would love to have heros for dungeons.
I hate doing the dungeons with elitists or kick happy ppl.
My thief.
I’ll Have to edit post later,and type in what he has on.
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I lvled 6 chars just doing wvw.
stick to the commanders and just enjoy the game.
before you know it you will be lvling up pretty fast,as long as you don’t keep watching the xp meter,as then it will seem real slow.
I soloed it and was fine doing it.
so yes you can solo it if you want to.
Does it matter,it’s not like the skins are ace or out and they are account bound anyway.
So it does not effect anyone.
I would use my alts if i could be bothered,but like i said you can only get account bound skins doing it and even then 50 baubles and 1 gold for the skin.
I suppose there just doing it to get the skin faster so they can carry on doing orr or wvw.
it’s a fun section,you don’t have to do it if you don’t want to.
Tbh i find it fun to mess about in when i want a break from being stunned every sec in orr.
I hope anet keeps it in tbh.
RNG = Random Number Generator.
I have to agree.
Taken over sm and could not use any skills,also trying to heal just not happing.
and to put the icing on the cake,standed attack was taken ages as well for a caster.
Well if i remember right wow has fishing contests.
Well gw 2 could do something like that the winner gets an exotic or something,as well as getting the odd rare while fishing when the contest is on.
or
Setup the fishing pools like orri only be able to fish it so many times in a time limit.
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Duel class – i doubt it.
Duel spec – possible.
Oh so he’s saying able to use 10 supply’s on sieges a day.
that’s different,but still 10 supply’s a day is still to low.
Your always going to get lame spys on any server,not sure how anet can fix it,but lowing us from building is not the answer.
Even trebs takes a load of supply’s if your building one on your own.
That again would be a nightmare for low populated servers.
But i do agree there should be some sort of report for this type of behaver.
I think players should only be able to make 5-10 siege a day per account, obviously commanders could make more..
That would be a nightmare tbh.
As in t1 you can take a tower,then lose it,then take it ect ect.
and if your the one only holding the sieges because ppl are to tight to buy them,you would use up more than ten sieges through out the day.
What would be better would be a handful ppl clicking on the siege and click de-spawn.
if enough ppl do it then the siege disappears.
So commanders can have control over the sieges as well by asking there followers to de-spawn it if needed.
No.
I bought this game as well as gw because there was no sub fee.
If anet decided to do that,then tec i would want every penny i put in tp as well as buying the game back.
Soon as the patch kicks in,i can bet it will be worst.
so i guess overflow is not going to be solved by this patch.
As many more ppl will prob start guesting now.
I know i will where i never did before.
