Guild Wars 2

Dante.1508:

Essence Snow.3194:

Guesting is more about more completing the bosses in a short period of time rather than anything else. Limiting alts will not change much there….ie…this doesn’t really fix guesting. During high concurrency there will still be guesting (if not more) and overflows.

Players with multiple alts actually had less reason to guest as they could/can switch toons to do the relatively short cycle boss (maw, fire ele), in the meantime when waiting for the longer cycle bosses.

With this change players with alts might be more likely to guest to get all the boss chest in short period of time since there is no comparative reason to not….ie…… there is less to do between that offers equal reward structure.

Tbh i have not guested b4 b/c I always had a fresh character ready for a chest on my home server. I probably will start guesting to complete my daily rounds in a timely manner once this change goes live.

This^
I have 9 characters i had no reason to guest on other servers, i did occasionally when my friends did, but very rarely, but mostly i switch toons and do it on another one, now i cannot.. guesting will look a lot more attractive…and quicker..

This ^^
I’v never guest on any server but soon as this change comes in that’s what i’ll be doing.
I did not even farm the dragons tbh,but now i shall be guesting to farm them on all my alts,just to get them done quicker.

Tbh i don’t think anet would ever put joypad support anyway.
So you got no worries there.

Anet makes money when ppl use real cash for the trans stones.
And as you have to use many to do it i guess anet would prob look the other way.
As long as there making money from it.

I don’t think you would get banned for it.
And why are ppl jumping on the op and telling there guild never to recruit him.
he just asking maybe he going to do his own guild and wanted to find out the facts first.

If you guys are that worried,what i would do is lock it down to the trusted ppl,then if the new members wanted out,all they have to do is ask the trusted players or officers for it,and when they got time they can take it out of guild bank and mail them it.
That’s what i would do with my guild anyway.

Have to agree i don’t bother with the dragon events,but affecting orr events as well is sad?
tbh they could have done it so ppl don’t get the chests server hopping as a guest.

I Guess buying them char slots with real money is a waste of my money now.
what else is going to get nerfed so us ppl who have alts cannot do them.

I Have all 8 lvl 80’s my ranger was the first lvl 80.
but tbh guardian was the easiest imo and the most fun followed by the warrior.
The only reason the warrior came sec was his 100 blades,how many times i slightly pressed w and cancelled it out.I could have used duel axes,but i love the greatswords,and his heal is not very good.
Also i love the way the guardian can leap into the fight.and drop all his aoe’s,and able to do a big heal if needed.

Pandemic.3516:

I played during beta and it was a lot harder then, people complained about the difficulty of the mobs and it got toned down a lot.

it was fun

I agree.
Every fight was good back then.
but ppl complained it was too hard,so anet toned it down.

Say i put +10 bloodlust on my axe and get it to 25 then change to greatsword,does the sigil still kick in?

As atm i am not noticing the different in dmg when changing to the greatsword.
for instance say i do 2000 dmg on greatsword without the 25 bloodlust stack.
then i put the stack of 25 on using the axe,i still seem to do the same dmg on the greatsword.

This is why i’m asking on this forum am i able to do that,or do i have to put +10 bloodlust on my greatsword instead.

i’m sure gw had easter events,dropping choc eggs.
so i reckon gw 2 will have it as well.

alemfi.5107:

XxTAFxX.6741:

I hope this is a joke. kitten what’s with all the nerfs going on,this will def kill the guardian,in wvw/pve and dungeons.

dungeons…. really? First understand what is changing before posting. They are considering/implementing traits for thieves/ warriors to combat against boon heavy builds… While a bad/lazy decision imo, this has absolutely no effect on guards in dungeons.

Once ppl have the stigma set in there minds,everything to do with guardians will be bad.
Also it would not surprise me if npcs got a piece of that action as well in some sort of way.
but still guardians have low hp also do less dmg and stuff and now this.

I guess anet wants everyone just to play warrior or thief then.

I hope this is a joke.
kitten what’s with all the nerfs going on,this will def kill the guardian,in wvw/pve and dungeons.

If anet wanted to they could put them in the store.
as for ppl saying they a reward for playing gw so what i bought many Pre-Purchase games with an included exclusive item only to go on sale a few months later as dlc.
So why can anet not do it,when other company’s do?

Also i have most of the hom items anyway,just saying if anet wanted to make a few bucks putting them in the store i would not be mad over it.
as most of the skins we use are much better at lvl 75-80 anyway.

You all had over 6 months of exclusive hom items,so if anet did put them in the store,then good for them as it’s extra cash to keep the game afloat.

gw 1 enemys for me was take out the healers asap the rest just fell.
but at least it was a challenge.

gw 2 everything seems to stun/daze or the odd axe thrown at you.
(mostly in orr anyway)
ai not as good.

but we don’t have proper tanks or healers,so maybe that why they are more boring than in gw.
If they was as good in gw ppl will just come crying to this forum say this op that is op.

gw 2 ai is kinda boring though.

Edge.4180:

If my goal was to just show up and collect my ecto, I guess I wouldn’t care. But that is not what I want these events to amount to.

you don’t always get an ecto unless you buy the 100% salvage kit,and even then you don’t always get one.
anet makes money if ppl buy 100% salvage kit for real cash.

The other option is you have a stack of ectos already and now they are lower in price,so your stock is not as worth as much as it was before.

Tbh i think your a person that wants to control ectos prices on the tp,and this is why you’re kicking up such a fuss,it’s was never about the events imo.
that’s why you keep going on about nerfing the loot.

Also the lag was always there(with the dragons anyway)before the change of the loot table so i’m not going to take that as an excuse.
And as for always going into over flow,well i’m on a very high populated server and i went there today 2 mins before claw was suppose to start and i was not put in overflow so that’s a lie as well.

Give it up anet is not going to change the loot now.maybe scale the events a bit better.

[edit] that vid you posted i don’t see any lag,and someone died lol.
Also many was not stood there just pressing 1.
It is a low lvl area event the dragons seems to take much longer.
Also the more ppl there is the more dps is done,so of course there going down a bit quicker.
Anet just needs to scale them a bit better.

Thanks guys all done.
only took around 1 hour 30 mins give or take.it would have been quicker if ppl did not kill the tunnel guys machine,as they was spawning out of there for me to get the 150 kills i needed.

I’m a little confused with this tbh.
As i’v not started any of it,is it too late to start from the beginning or have i missed the boat?
as stuff seems to be added every month,it’s got me thinking is this a one time event.

IF not then i shall start doing it asap otherwise i might as well skip it if i’m going to miss a lot because i was too buzy living alts.

Also where is the start of it all as i think i’v del the e-mails i got.
ty.

I have all 8 lvl 80’s fully kitted out in exotics.

The event the op is talking about is prob mel in orr.
defending it does not give you a chest.

Tbh i never defend it but always attack.
i’m not sure if defending counts as a chest loot,so if you use the same char within 24 hours attacking it after you defend it do you still get the chest?
if we spent our time and skills doing the event at least reward us for it.

Fixing our armour,using way points don’t come cheap over time.

for me i would would like fissure of woe and underworld make a come back.

Tbh do we really need another thread about this?

Edge.4180:

XxTAFxX.6741:

Also having 8 lvl 80’s the chests can soften the blow at times when i need to buy gear for my alts.
or need a load of ectos for crafting.
(but tbh i never farm the dragon events as i cannot be bothered with the lag.)

What you essentially seem to be saying is this:

1) These boss events are really only good for their loot.
2) You don’t like attending the boss events because you dislike the lag.

And, if accurate, that’s pretty close to what I’ve been stating is the problem with these events, and why fewer players need to be attracted to them. These boss events should not simply be about the loot, nor should they be a laggy mess that nobody enjoys.

One way to solve both of those problems is to remove the loot. Then, people are attending them for reasons other than loot, and they’re not as laggy because they’re not overpopulated (since we all know many people will simply not attend them without the lure of loot).

Fortunately, we don’t need to attract a ton of players to these events to complete them. They can be completed with just a handful of players, and those players that are attending the event are likely to find them a whole lot more enjoyable due to the improved performance and additional tactical options that open up once you remove the auto-attacking zerg.

What i’m saying is take away the loot and it affects all dynamic events with chests.
not just the dragons.
Hence why mel and grenth gets done quite often now,where before they did not get done at all,unless a big guild wanted some karma gear from there.

I would not bother doing mel or grenth because the rewards would be rubbish.
now i do them most of the time.

So anet has done the right thing,the only thing they should do is make it so you only get one rare rather than able to get 2 or 3 sometimes.

As for the lag on dragons,that was happing way before the loot change anyway,so that’s why i never bothered to do them.
So that had nothing to do with the big zergs now.

Only tip i can give you is make sure your sec weapon is a staff.
blocking them running into there keep is funny as hell.
but def one of the guardians useful weapons in wvw.

Desolation has it uncontested more often that not.
I know because i do it all the time on me alts.

Raire.7983:

XxTAFxX.6741:

If i had to take a guess,my guess would be the champs at the shelter in orr.

I don’t think they show up with just 4 or 5 people present, do they?

Not sure as the server i’m on we have more than 5 ppl there at all times.
but there the only champs i can think of that one shots you most of the time.

If i had to take a guess,my guess would be the champs at the shelter in orr.

Lets get this straight.
ppl play mmo’s to get better gear/loot,they have fun while doing it but it still boils down to getting the best of the best within the game.
If they say they don’t there lieing.
You won’t see anyone one running around in white gear now do you,of course not because they farm to get better gear to get better stats and also sometimes for looks.

Drop rates are a big part of that no matter where they come from,if the drop rate is rubbish in that area,then the area becomes dead.it’s a simple fact.
ppl do raids in wow not because the bosses are fun,because they have a chance of getting better gear,that increases there stats.

Same with ppl in gw 2 doing the same dungeons over and over again,not because they like it because there farming for that dungeon for tokens to get the gear/weapons.
Sometimes for looks rather than stats though.

gw 2 is no different,if the chests dropped greens all the time,many many ppl would not bother doing the event,it’s as simple as that.
(we already seen that before this patch)

Also Edge.4180 you have your opinion,but still many more have a different one.
for instance if i do an event and the reward was rubbish,i would not bother doing it again.
it’s not just me you will find ppl like me will out number ppl like you.
just look at the dragon events now because the rewards are better.
I’m not going to waste little time i have playing this game for rubbish rewards.

My fun is getting the best stuff i can,maybe that’s not your fun,but any mmo i play i play to get the best of the best.
(Even if it just for looks.)

Also having 8 lvl 80’s the chests can soften the blow at times when i need to buy gear for my alts.
or need a load of ectos for crafting.
(but tbh i never farm the dragon events as i cannot be bothered with the lag.)

Lord Rager.8543:

Also if you dont like them, dont do them. you are not being forced to do them.

Tec we are forced to do them.

If we want the legendary neckless rings ect ect.
Everything revolves around these laurels now.
And to get the laurels we have to do the dailys and monthlys.

tbh i liked the old way,i could do them all in wvw.
now it’s just a pain to get them done.

critickitten.1498:

Edge.4180:

You’re being a bit dramatic. You describe a game where nobody is completing events, and yet thousands of events are completed across these servers every day, and the only reward for them is a little coin, a little XP, and a little karma.

Yes, and there are also thousands of events that are completely ignored and left stuck in their existing status for days and days because people don’t want to run them, because they aren’t rewarding.

Your proposal wouldn’t make world bosses fun, they’d make them frustrating, and we’d end up with servers where world bosses stay up for days because no one wants to fight a creature that takes several minutes and drops nothing for your time or trouble.

You have also apparently never been to Orr, where parts of the zone shut down based on the status of events. And yet the world keeps on spinning..!

You’re the one who needs to visit Orr more often. On many servers, the temples remain locked for the majority of the game’s run time, until larger guilds come along to unlock the temples. I’ve done quick skims of Orr every time I’ve played and there is always at least two temples locked down on a regular basis, if not all of them. And my server isn’t a small server.

lol i was thinking the same thing.
it’s a lot better now ppl get a proper reward.
but before this patch most of it was locked down most of the time.

Avster.1935:

That’s unfortunate.

But HoM stuff are exclusive to GW1 Vets only.

It’s a reward for our years of loyalty. Competitionist or not, you do not fall into that category, and I’m sorry that you can’t complete your pet collection :\

I have bought many pre order games that gave exclusive stuff,then ppl able to buy them 2-3 months later after the game was released. (exclusive items as dlc.)
So plz we have had over 6 months of exclusive items.
Maybe it is time for anet to charge a small fee to unlock them.

btw i got almost all of them unlocked,but still i would not cry if anet charged a fee for ppl to get them.
at least the money is going towards anets funds for future expansions.

The only one i can think of and would love it on my ranger is the……
STORMBOW.

[edit] oh ya chaos axe.
How could i forget about that one.

Tbh i would love this on my guardian.
That way i could have a dps spec for events,and a healing one if i do dungeons.

I don’t agree with locking out certain parts of the land.
as if the dragon/event don’t get done that part will be locked all the time,just look at orr before the chest change.

I do agree one rare per chest,as i’v seen ppl get three that is to much.
I don’t agree with the change of not getting a rare,if you earned the right to open the chest then you should be rewarded.
Also ppl who are complaining are prob the ones who are gold farmers,or tp controllers.
There just not enough rewards in this game imo,the chests are the only way of def getting a rare.

btw i don’t do the dragons,but still the amount of events i do in orr,im lucky to get one rare all day unless i do grenth or mel.

tbh before gw 2 was released i did expect more mini games.
as far as i know there are only two.

brawl one and one at asura starting area,killing the mini robot on a sort of chess board.
I am a little disappointed as i was expecting quite a few mini games.

tbh though i have most of hom unlocked besides the spider.
but i do agree with the op that we should be able to unlock them in game or by mini quest.

I don’t care for the hom skins ect ect,but having greyed out pet slots is stupid,as everytime your going to change your pet,it there to see.
As for the armour or weapons,well there not forced it your face now are they not like the pets.

And spending 1000 of hours on a more or less empty server now to unlock them is pointless.

ophidic.1279:

xarallei.4279:

XxTAFxX.6741:

Tbh there good when your lvling up,as you can hide the ugly weapons and armour with them ones.
but once you hit 80 you would never use them again as you get better looking weapons/armour by then.

So imo there not that important once you hit 80.

Nah, I still use my fiery sword at 80. It’s one of the best skins in the game. I might still continue using the staff one on my necro….haven’t decided yet.

The staff is nice too, it’s got a little animation on it and it’s better than the default staff appearance imo.

That’s what i mean by ugly weapons,but at lvl 70-80 maybe lower you can get better looking staffs.
as the hom one is just a twig with a light green line going around it.

You can install it on as many computers you own as you like.
But only you can log in and play it.

Tbh there good when your lvling up,as you can hide the ugly weapons and armour with them ones.
but once you hit 80 you would never use them again as you get better looking weapons/armour by then.

So imo there not that important once you hit 80.

if that was the case ppl would get karma armour and salvage it for ectos/mats
or buy the cheap cultural armour and do the same.
Same applys to the rare weapons and offhands.
but i do agree if you put on a rune/sigil,then using the kit only gives the rune/sigil back.

yep they def lowered the drop rate.
Before i used to get loads on my main,now i only got 1 from the rest of my lvl 80’s.
on my first char,by the time i got to 80 i had 25+.
on my last 7 lvl 80’s i got 1.

I guess anet needs to make money somewhere,but these secret nerfs do get annoying tbh.

Katai.6240:

I don’t understand how guesting really gets you around that limit. I mean, you can do this with all your alts. Does that count as getting around the limit?

Even with guesting, you can only guest on 2 servers per day. That in itself limits you to each event 3 times in a single day (which is equivalent to just doing the events with two more alts).

I agree.
i tried a few events today on my main and alt,and tbh it was a waste of time.
standing around for over 50 mins for the event to start as the timer can be up to an hour.
I could not do many in the time frame even with alts tbh,but bah.

I earn more cash and gold items in orr.
why ppl are complaining about the chest drops i don’t know,only thing that comes to mind is the farmers and tp controllers.
it’s prob hurting there real money income and so it should.

Hell no.
I had my fill in wow days with gear score.

The bosses in gw 2 don’t have an enrage timer so no need to check ppl gear.
this is a fun game not an elitism game.

Also if anet wanted they could fix it so you could not enter dungeons with mf gear on.
I’m sure it would a be simple for them to implant.
I hate mf gear,but i hate gear check more,as it brings out the bad in ppl.

laokoko.7403:

I think the big reason is Anet want people to play alt for “game longevity” reason.

So if Everyone try to get 8 level80 Anet have their work cut out. And the actuality is this is one of the few games I see where there are so many people with multiple alt.

But I think ya, it make more sense for the event to be account bound.

I disagree.
Every mmo Many many ppl have alts,i had many in wow/rift ect ect.

also if it was account bound,what happens when most of the players do say grenth in the morning,the rest of a day it will be contested.
How are they going to get say that piece of karma gear they want if no one does it.
This is where alts come in handy.

it’s not like it an easy fight that one with pugs now is it.
I hope anet don’t change there mind,as everything is on a timer anyway so it does not matter if you use one char chasing the events,or many char on just one event,it still works out you get the same amount of events anyway within the time frame.
it’s just on alts your not running around different zones all the time.

Zosk.5609:

Jealous is what you say when you can’t defend anything. Also, the idea you are being punished because you aren’t being given an advantage is ludicrous. FYI..I have 3 80s and working on a 4th. Yet, I’m mature enough to know when something is inconsistent with game design and bad for the game, even if having it removed would hurt me personally?

BTW, It’s now created sort of an interesting problem. Temples just aren’t getting done as much it seems, because why do them when you can farm the “easy” events (low level and dragon) on multiple alts all day for the same loot? Is people doing frozen maw every 20 minutes on 4-8 different characters a good idea in the books of all these people defending this?

Can say for sure about your server.
But the server i’m on the orr events get done quite often now,simply because the loot drops and chest.
Also bigger chance getting a precursor, mainly from the drops rather than the chest.
Where as before they hardly got done at all.

Zosk.5609:

XxTAFxX.6741:

Too right they should be toon based and not account bound.
Do you know how long and boring it is to lvling alts?
Not to mention the cost to gear them as well.

If you cannot be bothered to lvl alts,then you only got yourself to blame,ppl with alts should not be punished because they spent more time lvling them.
But i do agree that you should not be able to do it again on a toon if you already done it.that means guesting as well.

There are far better ways to get the rares/cash now with the new drop system,so the chest are kinda moot tbh.
Tbh More rares drops of the mobs than the chest nowdays.

If you don’t like to level alts, you shouldn’t have to. If you find it so boring, why do you want developers to reward it? This may surprise you but many people like levelling up characters in this game (and others) just for some variety or to see the story. In fact, I think you’ll find most players in this game already have at least 2-3 slots filled…and they didn’t require a bribe to do it. They just wanted to!

fyi i have 8 chars all lvl 80.
and yes i did not mind lvling them up,but it does come to a stage after 2-3 alts starts to get tedious.
So why should we be punished for lvl alts?
after all i put the hours/days/weeks/months in lvling them.

Also i lvled them all because i like to play different chars every so often,so it don’t become boring on the same char all the time.
I had the 8 lvl 80 before this update was even in.i don’t abuse the chests because back then you could do them over and over again on the same char.
but still anet did it right by doing it char bound and not account bound.
that way if i fancy helping a group i can change char known i will get a reward at the end.

Otherwise once i done it i would not bother doing again until the next day,as theres no reward for doing it twice unless you use an alt.
and it’s not just me many ppl play this game for the rewards not just to help ppl.

Many times today had ppl standing around when an event started,and some ppl said you going to help.
There reply was no point already done it.
So that’s where the alts come in handy.

Too right they should be toon based and not account bound.
Do you know how long and boring it is to lvl alts?
Not to mention the cost to gear them as well.

If you cannot be bothered to lvl alts,then you only got yourself to blame,ppl with alts should not be punished because they spent more time lvling them.
But i do agree that you should not be able to do it again on a toon if you already done it.that means guesting as well.

There are far better ways to get the rares/cash now with the new drop system,so the chest are kinda moot tbh.
Tbh More rares drops of the mobs than the chest nowdays.

I’m happy with this monthly tbh.
Don’t have to do dungeons

Well i did not have high hopes for this patch like some ppl.
I knew there would be nerfs.
So for instance orr we can only do the events once for the chest,so now most ppl who don’t work will have done them and not going to do any more as they don’t get rewarded for doing them again.

That leaves the ppl who fin work to do them,then what? everything will just be contested from there on.
As for the dailys,i don’t want to goto lower lvls,been there lvling up why do i want to go back there now?
(it’s not like we get good rewards/drops going there)

I really hope another mmo comes out in the future with one payment and them devs stick to there word,i would jump ship in a heart beat.

Would be nice if we could do it for monthly as well.
I’m not into dungeons and thats the only one i have left so wont be getting my monthly then.

I hope i can still use my karma rings and trinkets and stuff.
spent many sleepless night getting them for all my 8 chars.