Guild Wars 2

I use the runes, and have been using them for months. I also use Banshee’s wail, but I don’t quite get perma-swiftness from it. Am I doing something wrong? lolz.

If I really care about perma swiftness, I just equip SWalk and use Locust Swarm as well to get lots of swiftness.

But the runes fit super well with my build. The focus is on crits, not as much power, but the added power helps too.

Well…. yes!

But this is a necro thread…… O.O

Once again, a necro who just auto-attacks with Dagger #1 needs to l2p. I mentioned this before, I believe. But in PvP and WvW, if you just auto-attack, you. Will. Die. Easy enough.

I have 0 specced into healing power, and the dagger siphon has saved me in a ton of fights. It heals me for around 2k. And in the fights where I really need, the fights last a good minute or even longer. Which means I can use this skill multiple times. And trust me, it has saved my behind many times.

It also hits for 3-5k for me. Which is actually a considerable amount of damage.

I believe you are the person who posted the last thread complaining about dagger, and let me tell you, you would be one of the easiest kills on WvW or PvP. Because all you apparently want to do is auto-attack with your dagger. And any necro attempting that in PvP or WvW is a completely dead necro.

Once again, l2p.

P.S. To the people talking about PvE, PvE is a cakewalk. You can practically run any build and be successful. And quite frankly, dagger autoattack DPS can be far outclassed by most other classes. I need to use 2 utilities to even compete.

Rangers. Always rangers.

Either they never move until at about 3% health, or they kill me in 5 seconds.

I am surprised so many people agree with this. Especially with the example. I use D/WH always, and I think the skills are almost perfect.

I understand the point (a little) that some auto-attacks are so much stronger than the other skills. But this game isn’t all about hitting hard.

I play mainly WvW, and quite frankly, a necro planning to spam 1111111111 with their dagger is going to be an extremely dead necro.

Dagger:
1. Auto-attack: This hits hard. it hits hard, and generates life-force. Nothing wrong with this.
2. Life Siphon: This can also hit very hard. (I can crit for around 3-5k) This is a hugely useful skill. Took too much pressure in melee range? Now you can kite around your target, stealing health, and doing decent damage to keep up the pressure. This has kept me alive in many fights. I believe from a full chain you gain ~2k health. Not too much. 1/10th of my health. But if the fight lasts longer than 12 seconds, you can use it again. I have been in long duels lasting a few minutes. That means that using this skill effectively will have done an entire lifebar or more of healing. It is all about sustain. A dead person is a person dealing 0 damage.
3. Dark Pact: This is where you really lost me. Bad damage? It is not supposed to damage the foe. It is supposed to create an opportunity to damage the foe. It is so easy to dark pact an enemy, circle behind them and auto-attack, dropping their health rapidly. This skill is a crucial part of my build (wellbomber), and my entire build almost revolves around it. It may not do damage, but it has led to many deaths to my enemies.

Warhorn:
Wail of Doom: Long cast time, yes. Aftercast, sure. But is a 2 second UNBLOCKABLE daze that can hit multiple foes. If you ever run a wellbomber, drop the wells, wait a second or two, use that, and watch as you interrupt people’s heals, and watch them fall down and die. See an enemy ressing an ally and you are all out fears? Interrupt the res with an easy to use skill. And what is wrong with the aftercast? If you use the skill successfully, you have 2 seconds of time before the enemy can restart the attack.
Locust Swarm: It doesn’t outweigh the opportunity cost. If you play with the idea that auto-attack with dagger is so much better than everything else and choose not to use Locust Swarm, you are only hurting yourself. It amplifies the auto-attack. The only thing that is lacking about this skill is that the swiftness does not apply to allies.

I hate to say this, but I believe this is a huge case of L2P. Your evalutaions of the skills are just…. wrong. All I seem to get is that you cast Locust Swarm, and auto-attack until the fight is over. And that is a terrible way to play.

These skills all amplify the auto-attack and the weapon set, not ruin the weapon set. Melee face-tanking can leave you vulnerable. What better way to recoup some of your lost health with a midrange life steal that can hit for a decent amount and also heal you while at a safer distance than point-blank. If you play well, this skill is invaluable. Now you are trying to autoattack a pesky foe who is constantly kiting you, and your autoattack seems like it will never be used. So we have a skill that can shut down an enemy’s movement, and give us 3 seconds to close the gap and smack into them. You are up close and personal smacking them in the face with your dagger, and you see the enemy start to heal. here comes your 2 second unblockable heal. That guardian that blocks while healing, his skill was jsut interrupted, and you have a good advantage. And whilst you smack faces, you can have swiftness on, allowing you to catch up to your enemies, cripple fleeing foes, and supplement your already strong auto-attack with even more damage.

I hate to reiterate, but learn to play. Although some of your thoughts seem to stem directly from PvE, which is a cake walk whatever you play, all of the skills you listed are highly useful, and go hand in hand with the auto-attack. You talk as if they clash, that the skills don’t eqaute to the auto-attack, but in actuality they make the auto-attack more viable. The sad thing is, I rarely sit and auto-attack players. And hardly anyone does. Why? Because auto-attacking more than likely will get you well and dead. I have to sue all the skill in my arsenal to press and wait for the advantage, and when I have the moment, I can waltz in, smack them with my dagger, and watch them drop.

And all it sounds like you do is auto-attack…..

My necro.

I understand that for many, The Bifrost doesn’t really fit with a necro. I just love the Bifrost way too much to not get it. And since necro is my main, and main staff user, figured I would get it on her.

I think I managed to get a look that fits the weapon, as a noblewoman or w/e. Anywho, I have not once regretted my Bifrost on my necro.

Fun fights against the Ai warrior and guardian/mesmer! I was the [DH] necro causing you such problems.

I do apologize for laughing, I was just so happy I actually beat you guys. I was about to bow cause I felt bad, but then you guys left.

I was sad that you ran away when you guys had 3v our 2. And then you refused to actually come down and fight me, you chose to stay up on the ledge and range at me.

Anyways, fun fights, and we still managed to take the tower, equipped with 4 sup AC.

Super fun fights at SBI garri today! You almost had us, but we managed to have a bazillion siege to stop you in your tracks.

Remember the feeling, it is how we feel everytime we try and take something from you guys. lol

bradderzh.2378:

Also if for some reason ANet deems my posts to break their forum terms, all of the info I have posted plus screenshots from other members of our server are posted up on borlis.org.

You are welcome to check them out there if Anet chooses to exercise their right to remove my posts from their forums.

How interesting. When SBI held the keep, and BP was pushing hard to retake it, several BP glitched inside and proceeded to kill me. Now did I freak out, take as many screenshots as I could, take videos, and make tons of posts on the forums whining about it?

No. I understood that it was a glitch, and I just waited for my allies to revive me. (They killed the glitchers) This is honestly such trakitten is a known bug, where people get glitched through unvoluntarily. I was fighting your guys in front of the gate and got ported through somehow.

So stop trying to whine about how SBI is cheating. The people who fought even after they glitched in were probably a bit confused, and didn’t want to die. And the ones that ran in “trying to look for an advantage” could have quite possibly been running for the stairs to jump back out.

So stop trying to make SBI look like a bunch of exploiters, as that is just not the case.

Come on BP. We were having a fun fight!

Jerks!!!!!

That was so mean.

Super fun fights at greenbriar AR!

We held for what, like 2 hours? With no supply and maybe 12 people tops? They were super fun fights, and I had a blast! Props to your guys persistance. We took down quite a few catas, a treb, and even more catas! The skirmishes were also a ton of fun too!

BP even threw their hats in a few times.

It was interesting how you started with like 15, and eventually more and more came to the party until you eventually had us with outmanned. Super fun nonetheless.

And too bad about the back wall. We had a newbie who refused to use the AC on your catas, refused to get off the AC, and refused to even respond. We wiped you once and got the cata down, but the 2nd cata came too fast, and we had yet to repair the wall.

All in all, super fun times, and I hope you enjoyed it.

P.S. In BP borderlands, to the guild group [UV], awesome fights! I am so glad you didn’t just bunker down in camps, but you left the camps to come fight us, and they were really fun fights! That fight at the N camp was so frantic, but the guards were respawning, and you all were just respawning and charging back in. Much respect, had a lot of fun with you guys!

Noodica.5428:

@Bay.
Still think we outmmaned you..?

I def never said you outmanned us. My point still stands. It was our off hours. Everything else is a bit moot.

Like I said, brag when it is our primetime and you take our keeps like that. Otherwise, it is just pointless. xD

Noodica.5428:

Did i hear that SBI are good on EB..?
Ehh, thanks for SM and your keep

About 11PM PST is when we have the masses logging off. So gratz on hitting us during our downtime.

I would love to see more screenshots of it.

P.S. Take our EB keep during NA primetime. If you want to brag, why not actually take it when it requires a whole lot of skill? Or just continue waiting for us to logoff to actually have anything to brag about. xD

Farout.8207:

Mjolniir.2541:

Great teamwork AR + BP simultaneously taking SBI’s Hills & Bay This morning.
Ain’t Communication great!

You do realize that it is always 2 vs. 1 in your home borderland right? What do you expect your opponents to do, leave because the third server is there? Get real…

I actually saw it as a plus side. Our EB zerg went to our… Gasp Borderlands!!!!!!!!!!!
HOOOOOOOORAY!!!!!!!!!
EB showed up, wiped both zergs, retook the map, and went on our merry way. xD

Nice try AR (and later BP)

I rarely get to defend from the water gate, and that was just such a fun choke point to hold. hahaha

I think in reality, people stay on EB during NA primetime because SBIers do, in fact, like winning.

And on EB, that is what we do. Our EB crew is super amazing in open-field fights, and I mean that. I have seen our zerg fight 2 enemy zergs of equal numbers on both sides of us, and we come out on top. I even sat there like.. WUT HAPPENED? We were surrounded!

So I think most of the people who go onto EB are looking to win, and they don’t really care about the points. They are just looking for good fights that they know they can win.

While it does indeed suck that our BL maps are left almost entirely empty due to this, I can’t fault people for having fun. I occasionally join in on EB to take part in the epic wipes we have against enemy zergs. At points, enemies just learn to run when they see our zerg approaching, because they know they will lose…

I am perfectly okay with laughing at a corpse. Most of the time it is when I catch a filthy perma stealth thief in a tower or something. Or if someone was really annoying and I can finally kill them, I laugh.

If I were able to communicate with words, most likely I would say like, “Finally caught you, you filthy sneaking theif!” or other such comments. But since my options are limited…

It should also be taken as a compliment. If you are good enough to give me and a friend trouble, I will /laugh, saying we finally got you, even though we barely did. xD

It also makes me happy to know exactly who those 2 people are. LOL

Story time:
Once upon an eve of battle, I murdered an invader and then laughed and danced on his body. A couple seconds later, a big old meanie with a Twilight and the same guild tag as my victim came, killed me, ressed his friend, and proceeded to return the favor. I laughed quite hard.

I haven’t fought with my condi spec versus an ele for quite awhile now, so I may be a bit outdated…

It is very possible. You just have to play spot on. The key is to maintain the pressure. Always keep bleeds up. One of things that I like about scepter is even when they remove it, the bleeds get reapplied right away. And so you just keep adding the bleeds and kiting them for days.

(I used S/F so I could keep up a fair amount of chill and cripple)

The timing on CB is of course, crucial. It should not be blown at the beginning of a fight. I almost used it as a way to finish them. Pressure them and pressure them until their health gets low, then hit em hard and fast with CB. It is never going to be a short battle, but you can win it. If you know ele skills well, an ele is more than likely going to get frustrated and try leaving if you play it right.

Redgrass.3067:

I am hoping to see more tactics out of SBI wvw guilds. Other than the blob tactic I really haven’t learned anything. No wvw guilds stick out due to the blob and I am pretty sure SBI is starting to be aware of wvw guilds here on AR. When our wvw guilds fight the “blob” it only boasts our morale because it is nice to wipe or hold out against groups twice our size. You guys just remind of a bigger version of DH/BP…just more loot bags!

AR capped SBI with about 4 guilds in under 30 minutes and we didn’t all strike at the same location. Granted we could of but what would be the fun in that!

IoJ if you see WAR in your BL don’t get it twisted. If we are on a roll we like to run with that momentum so….either stop us or get out the way.

You might be sorely disappointed. SBI is a pugway server. We don’t have any huge WvW guilds. Most guilds you see are PvX guilds who are either having a WvW night, or the select few who WvW often are together. xD

We fight together. We die together. One big blob of friendliness.

P.S. Our EB crew is always a blob, better chance looking in the BL for smaller fights.

I also have a lot of trouble with scepter hitting stuff like roots. Would have to resort to grasping to even touch the roots.

zastari.1730:

Are there any players on DB or SBI that don’t run from fights? At first it was cute now it’s just boring.

But can you do this?

Because ignoring it like apparently you suggest will definitely solve the problem…

But if I saw the person doing it, I would report them. Easy as that.

And I would not build an AC from them. Nor give them one. Yeah, you can’t control people, but you can report, and give them less opportunities to cheat.

Love the story!

Okay, thanks.

I always seem to miss them, and never quite know where the thing is actually taking place to watch. xD

Can you link the State of the Game?

flow.6043:

Yerffejy.6538:

I have been wanting to try this for some time. But I haven’t managed to pull some friends together and do it.

You could sign up for the BoC all-necro tournament

I couuulllddd. But I don’t do much sPvP and such. :P

I have been wanting to try this for some time. But I haven’t managed to pull some friends together and do it.

Let us know if it goes well?

Actually, apparently RISE is leaving. And thus the downfall begins. xD

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/necromancer/?5.3|8.1g.h1e.g.1o.h8|6.1o.h1l|1o.7c.1g.7c.1n.7c.1g.7c.1n.7c.1g.7c|2s.0.1g.67.1g.67.1g.67.1g.67.1g.67|0.k58.k42.0.u6ac|0.0|3r.4a.4d.44.4g|e

This is what I use, to very good effect. The LF generation makes this build super tanky. It is a well-bomber, but there is plenty of places you can edit, tweak, and change in the build to fit your playstyle and what you want to do.

Aside from the wells, the last utility skill can be changed to whatever suits you at the time, and I change it often depending on what I am likely to face.

Atm, I cast my wells up close and personal, but the trait lines are specced so that I can easily change my wells to ground-targeting. The wells give some protection, which can help you survive when you drop your wells surrounded by enemies.

I play mostly solo and small group, and sometimes even in a zerg, and I do fairly well in all 3 settings. In group battles, I am generally the last one on my team standing, due to the lifesteals, and incredible amount of lifeforce I generate.

The elite is also interchangeable, so you can really play it any way you want. xD

As you can see, there are many varieties of a wellomancer.

Super fun fights SoS on CDBL. The fights in Greenbriar and bay were amazing, and I hope you had as much fun as we did.

So I abandoned my ele a long long time ago, and now I feel like getting a decent build on her, and maybe actually play her.

My plan is to play more of a support role on my ele, helping to heal and buff my allies in WvW and PvE.

Anyone have any good builds or suggestions for me?

Blightwater Shatterstrike Guild Challenge, located at Tumok’s Wp.

So my guild got all ready to do this Challenge. We had already done it earlier this week and succeeded, we just wanted to do a Challenge for some fun.

We started it and immediately ran into a problem. The crystals we have to destroy do not appear. They are there. We can see our AoE and splash damage numbers appearing floating in midair (0 damage, of course) but we cannot see the actual crystals.

The people with the charrzookas ran into a problem as well because they could not hit the crystal, even when we managed to target the crystal. The bazooka shots go right through where the crystal should be and hit monsters beyond the crystal. We were unable to get any hit on the crystals, and we ended up just going and doing the Shatterer event instead.

Was a bit sad, and it was a big waste of time.

Reaver.9256:

I have an 80 ele and necro. I would never even dream of taking my necro into wvw over my ele. The classes are worlds apart in usefulness in pvp. I see necros as easy targets that provide little resistance……

Odd. I see the opposite. My necro likes to target eles and get them out of the fight early. :P And I never bring my ele to WvW. hahahaha

CHIPS.6018:

3. It depends on how your are fighting in said zerg. In a zerg stalemate, I often found myself kiting to the side in order to attack with scepter and maybe kill a few zerglings on the flanks. It all depends on how you play.

Feast of Corruption. Worst skill ever? I am fairly certain I could find some worse ones. xD The damage it does for a conditionmancer can actually be fairly decent compared to what everything else will hit for when you are specced for conditions. Although it is single target so meh.. xD

Any good condimancer will probably be running with epidemic. If you manage to corrupt boon let’s say a guardian who just used save yourselves, and you epidemic it, that can really hurt an enemy team.

And also, I have to severely question your understanding of WvW. 60v60 is not going to be instantaneous win or lose. Sometimes those fights can go on for a long time. And if you can land a corrupt boon and completely explode a a player, the odds are now 60v59, and your team has the advantage. The more players you can take out, the better your team will do. So I cannot understand the logic of disdaining a skill that can completely murder someone and help out in the fight. 1 player down is one less player attacking you.

I, for one, have played most of my WvW hours in T1. We were on the same server before you decided to head for the Hills (Kaineng). So I definitely understand top tier fighting and what goes on. And almost all of that time was spent on my necro. Any other class I take into WvW feels terrible compared to my necro… (Just personal preference I suppose)

4. I get very annoyed at people who just come to the forums and whine and complain. I think the devs actively avoid our section because we have such jaded necros roaming about, complaining about every single thing. All this speculation does nothing. If you want to try it hop on down to T6 (My best guess for when the video was taken based on mos.millenium.) But feel free to try it. Go on down to a low tier like T6, gather a very skilled group of mainly necros, maybe throw in 2 extra professions to recreate fully the situation, and try 25 times to hold a tower against a zerg. Because as we all know, videos like this show the 1 time it happened, and do not show the 30 times it did not happen. xD

Lastly, I have to disagree on the skill ceiling. Many people I talk to, no matter what they run, class build w/e, have the general idea that one of the classes they hate to fight is a very good necro. There is a definite difference between skill level on a necro. The good ones stand out, whereas it is very hard to stand out as an ele. Or a thief. A DD ele or a backstab thief, meh. You have faced them. They are just like the rest. Copy paste, w/e. You fight a good necromancer, and it becomes very clear just how good the necro is.

Yeah. It is very hard for a necro to 1v8. Almost impossible. But the main reason is because a necro 1v8, the necro is fighting those 8 people 100% of the time. Those 8 people are hitting the necro for the duration of the fight. Then you see a thief. He fights 1v1, and then leaves the fight. And then reinstates a 1v1. The eles we saw, they rarely engage full on. The majority of time is spent CCing, then backing up. Throwing down AoE, then disengaging. The classes that “solo” 1v8 never fight a legit 1v8. Any person 1v8 who is taking the necro approach will never achieve those results.

Always a fun vid to watch. I am actually the top commenter on there. Go me!

Yeah, it is true. That ele heals for more. I am sure necromancer would heal just as well if our weapon gave us 5 extra skills that deal almost solely with healing. Also, a lot of the healing came from the combo fields inside his AoE heals, which they used many times, healing for more than his skill would.

His damage is certainly potent, but Anet has said that they plan to reduce AoE, so that the damage does not surpass single target damage. Also, Eles are designed to pack a punch AoE wise. It is almost their core aspect of the class. AoE and comb fields. Necro is just not designed for that.

The siege aspect pretty much sucks. I agree. I hope a change will eventually come into play so our marks and conditions can actually be of worth on objects. It sucks laying down my marks and hope someone passes through them to hit an arrow cart. :P

We can, we just have a harder time of it, and have to actually put thought into it, and even some planning. xD

Mist form is annoying. But smart attackers can easily counter it.

DS: I am sure no one cared about his teleport either. But they did care about his damaging AoE. DS can easily be something to cause a lot of damage to the enemies as with, as well as ensuring you live long enough to deal even more damage.

Boon removals: Zergs gotta heal too. If an enemy would have been able to consistantly remove their boons, they would have been facing more pressure than they were. (They barely faced any pressure at all.)

Thief manages to take on a load of players mainly because they disengage and reengage. A thief does this by focusing one person down, ignoring the rest, and then stealthing and preparing to do it again. A DD ele generally just facetanks all the damage thrown while keeping up boons. A staff ele does this by remaining at max possible distance.

Those eles did not fight truly head to head. They crippled, CC’d, and blasted back enemies while dropping AoE to punish those caught in the AoEs. A good group would have easily rushed through and taken down them very easily. Staff Eles drop quite fast when they are focused, and if the attackers were smarter, they would have definitely wiped the eles extremely fast.

Also, it was not 7 eles. They had a thief with them, and… drum roll please… a necro!!!!!!!! Yes, they had a necro with them. So apparently they aren’t as outclassed as you think, else why else bring the necro. Why not roll a staff ele and hold back 100’s of people?

This is an isolated event where you have 7 well-trained and coordinated players, versus many very bad players.

What would I rather have, necro or ele? I would rather have someone competant, as that will go much farther than an average player playing any class.

And then you end up having Server 1 fighting S6, and the gap between the two is so large that it will be a roflstomp for a whole 2 weeks.

Everyone likes and enjoys a change in matchup. But some of the differences between tiers is so astounding that this would essentially break WvW entirely.

It will be hard to convince others to leave something alone because of a single point. Technically, (and improbably) if you can keep the point throughout the entire week from flipping, you deny your enemy points entirely.

However, I will defend (if reasonable) the point because disrupting my enemy is something that I find enjoyable.

I think 1vX can be pretty possible on a necro.

The difference between the necro and say a thief, ele, or mes, is the fact that the skill bar is WAY lower for those classes than a necro. Most people can level a thief, ele or mes, copy a build and go and manage to score some kills with the main builds. Necros do not have a be all end all build that will just dominate like the others. We have to actually have high levels of skill in order to pull it off.

So in response, I must say that for a necro, it is the player, not the build, that decides the outcome. We have many builds that are very viable and effective in combat, and I think people really do notice when they are facing a good necro versus a bad one.

We are at a disadvantage running solo with our lack of mobility. And I guess that is where the other classes excel. They are very good at running away. When on my necro, it is an all in kill or be killed attack, and it can pay off quite often.

P.S. I have seen some necro videos showing very good 1vX gameplay. Too lazy to track them down, but they exist. xD

Waffler.1257:

Maguuma can’t stop posting about CD in the tier 4 thread even when they are no longer in this tier… must be love.

CD mentioned them like 5 times. And then you guys get all surprised, when they come here and respond.

“I talked about them, and they responded! They need to get a life. OMG.”

As far as I know, it used to be a thing, but they eventually removed it. It could be someone actually hitting the AC with AoE or something….

I know I have had this happen to me quite a few times. I believe I also reported it..

Little surprised if you didn’t know this was happening.

One golem. To stand against them all!

To the CD Assaulter in Bravost.

Pro-tip: Catapults no longer damage siege through doors.

In the race against Maguuma to take CD garrison, my 4-man team almost beat Maguuma. Sadly, we were killed as was the Maguuma apparently.

I will count it as a victory though since we managed to get inside inners and get the lord to half. xD

saiyr.3071:

Oh boy, another guy who doesn’t know what he’s talking about. I’m sorry I ever tried to say nice things Maguuma has a predominantly losing history and we have never cared about it. Ask around and see how many of our major WvW guilds have transferred because of our losing streaks. The real question is why strive for anything that requires a ridiculous amount of work (hey look yet another time I need to say this) to catch up to a server that’s currently blue ranked? This is a video game, not a job. If it’s a job to you, more power to you. But I for one play video games to have fun and I’m allergic to grind and walking yaks to keeps for hours on end. If that makes YB better than us, I’m okay with that. As long as I’m having fun.

By the way, nice job “stepping up” by almost losing your blue rank a week after you got it.

I think you missed my joke about YB. (Catering to all the hype about it.)

Its not the losing matter. SBI has lost a ton. We lose a lot. never been a factor for me (and most of the remaining people, I assume). The ones who cared all left in a mass dramatic exodus. It is more of the fact that you don’t have to work hard to be successful against us.

And I am not saying play all week without sleeping. Apparently, Mag can decide to lock us out of maps, and it will be done. Why not do that? Lock it down and keep it for a few hours. That will rack up a few points. And maybe even create better harder fought fights. Who knows?

I also play for fun. I would just maybe have more fun with you elsewhere having fun. :P

And besides, we all know that we just motivated CD to not burn out (which is why we beat them) and to get back into the fight. I guessed after I saw we won that CD would be back for a vengeance to reclaim their spot. xD But thanks on the compliment. Proud of some of the fights SBI had.

saiyr.3071:

Yerffejy.6538:

zastari.1730:

Maladon.5760:

Truearrow.3527:

Sovereign.1093:

I’m free to think as I do because I do feel that Yaks bend is stronger than Maguuma.

You may be correct since we dont seem to be able to get out of T4, I can say this, they need to have come a long way, I hope and believe that Mag and Yaks will be an even matchup with NNK/dragonbrand giving us good fights as always at night but Yaks needs to have come a long way since we last met them..

Of course YB is better than Mag, they’re beating the team that Mag can’t catch in the ratings. Maguuma has failed to close the gap on SoS for weeks now despite playing against smaller population servers that they should dominate. Meanwhile YB has widened the gap between themselves and Mag while playing tougher (higher population) servers. I’m not even sure how this is up for debate.

Do you really want us to tryhard wvw all week, pop up wps in all your keeps, and camp you at spawn? Personally, I think that sounds a lot more boring for all of us. Keep going on thinking you’re a special flower though.

Please do. All the better to get you out of this tier. You all talk about how you just look for decent fights, and then repeatedly don’t try to get to a tier where there will be better fights. Questionable.

Meh, I don’t think T3 will even offer us “better” fights. Maybe more good fights. But some of the [SBI] fights we’ve had have been better than anything I remember from Yak’s Bend, as far as open field is concerned. Granted, my memory of Yak’s Bend is pretty dim back from when we were always fighting them. A lot of us want to go to T3, but we’re pretty casual players. And I don’t mean that in terms of how much we play as much as how much boredom we’re willing to tolerate. Good fights aren’t so non-existent here that I’m in a super hurry.

Last night we had a pretty fun one where CD was breaking out at SBI-owned SE tower (might have these servers reversed, I don’t remember who’s at SE spawn) and we were just messing with them from the west side. Despite having Siegerazer and free siege, it wasn’t a super stomp, despite them having a slight numbers advantage as well. But CD left maybe 15 minutes after that fight.

It is still highly questionable. But I get it. Here you win. Here you are winners. Why go to another tier and jeopardize that? But SBI and CD have been having an extremely close week, and it would be better to have another server that may also end up being very evenly matched with us.

Why strive to get to a position of possible failure (even the possibility of losing to YB, which is apparently a huge issue that many WvW analysts have spent hours mulling over).

I do agree that SBI has stepped up, with the influx of players giving us a boost and all. Maybe this next matchup will be a lot closer than this week has been…

zastari.1730:

Maladon.5760:

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Sovereign.1093:

I’m free to think as I do because I do feel that Yaks bend is stronger than Maguuma.

You may be correct since we dont seem to be able to get out of T4, I can say this, they need to have come a long way, I hope and believe that Mag and Yaks will be an even matchup with NNK/dragonbrand giving us good fights as always at night but Yaks needs to have come a long way since we last met them..

Of course YB is better than Mag, they’re beating the team that Mag can’t catch in the ratings. Maguuma has failed to close the gap on SoS for weeks now despite playing against smaller population servers that they should dominate. Meanwhile YB has widened the gap between themselves and Mag while playing tougher (higher population) servers. I’m not even sure how this is up for debate.

Do you really want us to tryhard wvw all week, pop up wps in all your keeps, and camp you at spawn? Personally, I think that sounds a lot more boring for all of us. Keep going on thinking you’re a special flower though.

Please do. All the better to get you out of this tier. You all talk about how you just look for decent fights, and then repeatedly don’t try to get to a tier where there will be better fights. Questionable.

Anyways, I just want new opponents to fight, whether that means SBI drops or Mag leaves the tier. Either way, new fights are always exciting.

I didn’t hear anything about a treb behind the door? xD