Guild Wars 2

I am playing D/D thief atm. Dont see it to be very hyped in the thief forum.

What we are talking about is your attitude towards losing. You know exactly what I mean. No lies spoken from Jathres and you know that too.

Let me remind you:

We met when i was playing my ranger the first time after months. Having 170h playtime. We dueled, me on trap build (definitely not the best build) and you on d/p build (most op thief build). The first four i beat you twice and then you change your build, and will stay in stealth for minutes after failing a burstrotation to get up again on cooldowns. Finally beating me after 5 minutes.
This is what Jathres meant by you fighting mostly when you have odds in your favour.

I never whine about thief being OP. I say d/p is cheesy, riskless, skillfree and easy to master. Rest comes with one or two thousand hours of playtime you sure have.
And still you brag to me per whisper how you fight outnumbered all the time.

You are not being outnumbered when 4 of 6 ppl didnt even know you were there, with your 4 heartseekers through your fancy little smoky circles stacking 10 seconds of stealth repeatedly till you positioned again and or everybody forgot about you.

You whispered me about how you and karolis were the best thieves ever to be seen on RoS. And also told me you hated losing and could not stand it.

Every d/p thief should be able to survive and or kill a d/d ele that does not flee a fight. you can blind every burst skill as it anticipates and keep high pressure. You just need to actually be good and know after what attunement swaps to burst.

You say I whine, when you wall of texted me repeatedly complaining about RoS, RiOT, Thieves (except you ofc) and not getting much gold atm.

I was always fair and polite and this will stay this way. But not if you come with this thieftypical/roguetypical/witchhuntertypical/witchelftypical attitude were any time you lose, it was because of unfair circumstances, OP opponents, the weather, blood sugar or “dude I was in the kitchen/smoking wth?”.

You never aknowledged how skilled Jathres and the other guys survived your burst, focus by up to four thieves on one target.

You even insult the s/d thief calling him troll and noob. I mean really? He apparently stunlocked you, didn’t he? Are you serious calling s/d trolling when you run low to no risk builds yourself?

Also never running from a fight: you never fight to the end. You enter with even odds (e.g. 4vs3 or 3vs3) and as soon as the tide turns you will leave for good.

I lost every little rest of respect for you over your last post.

What a huge pity you had to write this way instead of just realize that maybe the attitude is on your side, not on his.

Steelo.4597:

Zumy.6318:

I declared GH official winner when on sunday night our commander stated in TS3 that he had agreed with riot to leave their borderland and split GH border into two halves.

Leading this to RoS not ticking by 0 points over the night as would have been possible and taking over the lead of the bracket.

<3

i found it a bit sad the free service from dzago for surmia all week.. but well if it helps you.

I would not agree on whole week. It was one commander in one night. Most of the community did not approve this and every other development was just due to 1vs1vs1 constellation.

I declared GH official winner when on sunday night our commander stated in TS3 that he had agreed with riot to leave their borderland and split GH border into two halves.

Leading this to RoS not ticking by 0 points over the night as would have been possible and taking over the lead of the bracket.

Deathspike is talking about d/p, not s/p.

Dont fool yourself playing ezmode. s/d and d/d are fine and you wont be a cheesy runaway if sth goes wrong. You might die evenntually though.

Play FotM lvl 48 and you will beg for those rings. Also for them being infused.

A lvl 40 recipe? I doubt it very much!

Jathres.7236:

Groupfights (5 and smaller etc) and Duels and maybe a Game of Bollaball or Golf
Time: Thursday 21.00 (UTC+1)
Location: South of south Supply at the Mill, RoS BL

Just fighting for Fun.

Just appear or contact me, Nubu.6148 or Guybrush.8301.

Don’t forget about this tonight. Everybody welcome. Lets have good fights.

Equip second dagger.
Feel the awesomeness of not having a cheesy trololol build.

Give people a chance to beat you. You wont get better or learn anything if your opponents stand noch chance.

PD: no I am not discussing this here now. kkthxbye

16k ectos are sold in a blink of an eye.

Probably core information leaking about new recipes/builds like inb4 every patch.

I was a survivor! Great fun, hope we repeat.

Jathres.7236:

Seems you really have a need to justify yourself every time you lose.
So you whine about an Enemy thief reseting a Fight when your playing a D/P build? You say that thief was bad on the other hand your saying he stunlocked you 24/7 ?
You whispering to me when you lose to explain your reason why you losty wanting to tell me how good my teammate are or not etc…
Fought in a Camp -> Wasn’t open enough for you.
Fought on and next to a bridge -> too tight
You asking me to fight you 3 guys on a flat open field, we come and fight and you run away in the end not even sticking it out when you asked for that fight?
We fight 5-6 other Surmia you join the fight and still lose and run away?
What you are good at is, is jumping People at 50% life when they are fighting other people with 2-3 Thiefs.

In my Opinion your just playing a lame specc and are a coward who runs away when not everything is in your favor. Karolis i can atleast respect for having the guts to play d/d.
I found some nice and good players so far from Surmia and i’m pleased with that. So far my biggest /salute is to the little Asura Mesmer with the bandana and spiky hair(from Riot or VcY can’t remember), who is really good

I second this, mostly.

Arkanfel.8403:

Few things are quite so savory to me as thief tears.

There’s finally a hard counter to stealth and now they are going to lose their kitten. Oh, your core gameplay mechanic has a counter now? How bad that must feel. I main guardian—my core gameplay mechanic is boons and I have a low health pool. You know what counters my core gameplay? Boon stripping and conditions.

So welcome to the club of the rest of us. We meet in the gym after AA on Wednesdays. Bring donuts and paper plates.

This post is so utterly unintelligent, that I have a hard time not judging your intellectual integrity.
Your core mechanic is countered by something, that you can avoid by dodging, blinding, etc.
Stealth here is unblockably negated for a period of 30 seconds.

It is people like you that are the reason PvP in this game requires less skill every patch. Because of the tears, you know. Those tears you interpret in this thread, where a bad change to the game is being criticized. Because it is unreflected and not very smart.

gaborkaldy.3210:

I am pretty sure ascended gear for badges will be in the same patch that will make the Ranger to the King Of WvW.

He already is and always was.

Everything that ensures your fun in the game is a good choice.

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490:

They’re both ugly and I wonder why I bothered with this. Ok, the titles maybe.

This is just another crap reason to delay bringing Ascended gear to WvW, but I’m sure Devon Carter still likes bacon and is still listening to Boy George, or whichever singer that was.

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Both. Just like I do. The biggest trouble I have is splitting my legendaries along them :P. But I just transmute them once a week and I am fine.

Srsly: If you like roaming, you might want to play both. Ranger to win 1vs4 by evading and regging. Thief by stealthing and regging.

There are people salvaging Twilight and Sunrise on Youtube. But nice try.

Still: what is po?

What?

What?

What?

Problems with thieves are how bad average NA players are and how good skilled gankers can manage to do against them.
It was like that in every RvR game and it is in GW2.

Actually I didn’t see you on your Ranger more than once. A reminder would be highly appreciated. A crafted build even better.

roamzero.9486:

Jaguar should share its F2 stealth with the Ranger (in the case of the Ranger though, hitting an attack would break stealth as usual, unlike the Jaguars crit-stealth). This would fix a giant chunk of Rangers issues WvW. I dont think it would be particularly OP either.

What issues u talking about?

So you swap it for the only stunbreak and conditionremove you have? Why? SoS isn’t that good.

The build u posted did not even include SotH. But okay. CBA mate. You’re fine.

It doesn’t matter how many snowflakes buddy, there wont ever be two identical ones.

I mean passive SotH.
Agility training makes your pets dps higher because your pet needs less time to close the gaps to the moving target.
It does not buff the raw dps amount howsoever.
SotH does the same job, but giving yourself a speedbuff, too. The 5% difference make no difference.

TL;DR

Pets Prowess and SotH give pets the maximum dps output, giving you another speedbuff for yourself too.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Agility-Training-Better-than-it-seems

Sure it doesnt come from the 10% faster skill recharge you have traited?
Is this sth you figured by yourself or are there rumors that this is the case?

Not very important for me though. The reason I want to be less heal oriented is that I don’t want my pet to do the whole job. Big part of it yes, but not everything. Afterall it is AI.

Nubu.6148:

Zumy.6318:

You should think about the agility training though. It doesnt really help you. Even less in a group (more swiftness buffs).

I think the pet damage output is higher , but im still testing it. If not i agree expressly .

As in attacking “faster”?

After mitigating direct damage through toughness, i feel a high need to mitigate condition damage. The only way to do this besides doding (;)) and cleansing it, is shortening its duration. -60% through hoelbrak and poultry soup seem to be nice. Giving good amount of power and up to 7 stacks of might.

Mitigating both ways of incoming damage, i feel redundancy when getting even more tanky through stacking up passive regeneration that profits EXTREMELY little from healing power and investing it in critical chance and damage seems quite reasonable to me.

I never think of group builds in the first line and wouldnt want to trade 10% critical damage and 4,6% critical chance for +700 hp and -40% condition duration, even having 4 shoutguardians and me in a group.

You should think about the agility training though. It doesnt really help you. Even less in a group (more swiftness buffs).

Tons of heal but without empathyc bond (not an option as BM anyway) nor poultry soup, condis should be a problem.
Agility training does not stack with any other speedbuff the pet might get. Also Bark skin is gold worth. With companions defense you will get no damage at all under 25% (usually 4-5k hp). So I will really try to stick around the 0/10/30/0/30 setup and get precision and critical damage through knight and cavalier gear, sacrificing healing power.
Im trying to craft a build at around 800 (MAX!!) healing power. I feel that knights armour suits rangers way better than cleric. You get more direct damage mitigation and more dps. You will still heal good amounts with 2 passive regens, 33% longer regen. Even at healing power under 1240. I even feel that those 1500 healing power everybody is running around with are a big waste.

I will post my thoughts when i finished and tested the gearsetup. But it is going to be more about movement and toughness than tanking and healing. Perma evade on GS already mitigates 33% of the incoming damage -> the job shouldnt be that hard.

So everybody keeps x-ferring all the time. Interesting.

Currently I am on 0/10/30/0/30 and knights armour with celestial trinkets. 1 is beryl though.
It feels ok. Always GS and S/D.
Around 49% critical damage and 50% critical chance.
But i dont know yet if I will be able to facetank much. I anticipate that yes, as healing doenst scale as awesomely as you woulld want it to. Ad I have stronger defensive stats than in full cleric, besides not having so much healingpower.

Also strong over 2000 power on full bloodlust stacks.

To those who get bored of Cleric/Apothecary very fast, how offensive do you go?

I have Twilight, Bolt and Incinerator on my Ranger.
It’s cool.

Nike.2631:

Ended up buying a ‘The Bard’ because it was cheap.

Now staring at the heaps of T6 dust required for the Gift of the Minstrel in mild horror.

Why would you craft a Minstrel?

I want you all to know, that I am your emperor

Dont take this wrong. But after a boring duel, because both are way too defensive (good for soloroaming and killing 1vsX pugs), two of the four classes with the most overpowered 1v1 builds kill two hammer/staffguardians. What also takes them forever (see above).

So: I dont get your point.

The thief doesnt do much but cleanse his conditions and fail to sneak attack you and you just keep evading, hoping for your pet to land one proper burst. I mean you did not even use your signets.

I dont know if to laugh or just facepalm till I bleed.

This is the third time I do 100% worldcompletion. And also the third time I get stuck here. I guess legendary 5 and 6 will just be bought from the TP…

Bugged on every server.

Sentinels gear doesnt require ectos, as the insignia and dowels are drops.

Hahaha.

Bawl of steel.

Nah, just showing a pair.

I am not the issue, so it is not my job to get the solution to it. He doesnt seem bothered about griefing other people neither. So my statement stays. Griefplay.

Dont try to turn the spotlight on me.
I informed myself in the forum. Because I was an issue to other players.
He just keeps griefing.

“When you retreat because of not being able to hit Captain Laggcommander he will follow you forever and cc you, and you wont be able to do anything about it because you are in range for him. But he is always out of range for everybody.
And he knows that very well.”

This behaviour shows how nice he is. If his Con is too bad for WvW, he should stay out of WvW. If the lag is due to ISP/ANet issues, get a VPN.

And yes, I did lag too. Did I join WvW while lagging? No, because it was too easy to beat even 4 ppl on my ranger! That showed me, sth must be wrong and I talked to those people. They said they werent able to hit me and I looked for a solution. I got myself a VPN and now can play lagfree.

For the record: I dont have Issues killing him. All what saves him is lag.
And I speak with people from other servers all the time. I just dont talk to griefers.
I dont care about servers or points. I dont even see “opponents” or “enemies” when I see red names. I see possibility for high level competitive PvP. And he screws all over that.

I dont need to talk to him.
He knows how he “lags” and still joins WvW.
That shows he does not care about other players PvP experience.
I sure dont care about his anymore.

I am not offended. Just utterly annoyed. This guy screws over everybody else and does not even care.
In a zerg you wont notice him. But in smallscale Mr. Lag is gamebreaking.

Just realize it. He knows what is happening and takes advantage of it!

When you retreat because of not being able to hit Captain Laggcommander he will follow you forever and cc you, and you wont be able to do anything about it because you are in range for him. But he is always out of range for everybody.
And he knows that very well.

That guy is always adding into small skirmishes. I dont care about zerging. I want balanced smallscale. That is why I am in T8/T7. And 1 engineer that cannot be shut down makes a huge difference.

You beat me fair through outplaying? Props to you, I hope I can learn from you! But getting draws or having to run because the immortal engineer joins a fight is just unfair for any opponent.