Guild Wars 2

Do the math right. Then post again.

Ot the too lazy topic: lol.
Small groups crashing middlesized zergs contribute pretty much to a server. And they are not to lazy, but ambitioned to have PvP experiences instead of lagging their way clickig #1 and balling through a culled zerg.

Quix.6475:

Matt Witter.6982:

1. Everyone that helped with the kill will get full credit for the kill.

:(

Zerg > all

This will kill the game for PvPers, you know that and you dont care.

If you dont know it, you should not be developing games. Rather asking people if they want it supersized.

Rookni.2469

Looks like Riverside maybe will take our spot (maybe) and its a good thing for both tiers I think since they are a server that is more used to this style of play. (EXCEPT REQ OFC<3).

<3

I’d prefer going down a few tiers tbh.
Not much action from our side in Wv3 these days. Ppl waiting for the patch to come and honestly I dont think the patch will bring us back to what we were in January.
Zergs are being buffed again and the Realm-XP contribution system will buff zerging even more.

Gaudrath.6725:

Furiousbeard.7602:

Gaudrath.6725:

Furiousbeard.7602:

Small skilled groups are highly underrated in wvw. They really can decide the look of a map by winning small decisive fights while the zerg is busy with another zerg.

Dueling is a very good skill to have since your understanding of each class has to be superior in order to win.

I never said anything to the contrary. My point is that the notion that only being in a FC can make you a good roamer or duelist, or that anyone running with a zerg is an unskilled player simply isn’t true.

As I said… if you want to be a good duelist, don’t go to fight clubs, get out there and roam for real. Because that will give you a proper kind of challenge, since roaming is a highly unpredictable business. AND you get to be actually useful to the team, since you can also scout around and report stuff.

And again… do the fight club if that’s your thing, and you’re not taking up slots. But observe the #1 rule and shut up about it. FC-ers have no business talking down to anyone, since even the least skilled zergling is actually more useful than they are. Simple as that. Play as you like, but don’t act like that makes you better than “those dumb zerglings”.

The tone of your post is terrible. Please don’t quote things I say if you are rebutting something posted by someone else. The phrase “shut up about it” is offensive.

Not every response in this thread is directed to you or about you.

I thought you might think I was criticizing you personally with that last part – I wasn’t, even though I quoted you so – my bad for the misunderstanding.

I was addressing the type of player who participates in FC’s and then acts elitist towards their fellow team members. We even have an example here of players repatedly rezzing their teammates which interrupted a FC so that they could be killed over and over by the other side.

Now, do you think that sort of attitude doesn’t deserve at least a terrible tone in forum post? Makes me wish there was such a thing as banning players from WvW.

Meh, he will get repaircosts only once, so who cares.

If you die to a backstab thief 1on1, then yes, you should leave this game.

I ate 16k eviscerate being in stealth by an awesome warrior. :-D. (14,3k HP to my name)
I was only passing by his duel and did not want to disturb him so I used SR to walk by.

That was some aweful collateral damage :-D.
Luckyly I had tons of stealth left so I could heal up and leave :-D.

TheGreatA.4192:

Zumy.6318:

Hm, I meant something like a viable 1vsX roamer build :-). High kiteability and high mobility w/ good dps avoiding. Conditionfocused also fine. I thought you’d solo a lot on ranger in open field :-).

Norn is not an option though :-D. I only do female humans. Even though I’d prefer nornian facedesigns.

I do, but it is successful because of the 1500 range. Sword brings the dps avoiding automatically because of the evasive moves, but when a group of thieves starts focusing you (realizing that you’re putting out 15k rapid fires every couple of seconds), it’s time to reset the fight.

Ranger without Norn Elite is just not going to have many options for zerg-escaping, except underwater.

Best I’ve done was 1vs4 with ranger, but obviously not against great players. I tried wiping a 6 man guild once, but only killed 3 before having to run away. It’s all about the use of environment.

We dueled TikiTaka once I think, he had problems with our sword thief if I remember correctly, but maybe he has made the proper adjustments by now. I don’t think I got to duel him aside from a 3v3, but I’ve fought a few other OdS thieves in 1v1s.

Hm, I guess I will have to play around. But i might chose norn in the end.

Ofc he has bigger issues with other sword thieves. He has the same tools and a daze stun can sc rew you up pretty much. He is gc geared :-).
Thieves biggest enemies are other thieves with similar builds.
As they know what you will do.

ZStefanovic.2475:

Zumy.6318:

ZStefanovic.2475:

That was probably him then, now i’m not the best thief player but i usually stand my ground. But this was just insane! i need to step up my game :P

Indeed he knows what he is doing and how to troll some numbers.
I teamed up with him for 30 min so I could see were and how he was moving while in stealth.
He seems to plan the next three moves like playing chess.

Its not an exotic build and the gear is berserker with ogre runes. He just avoids damage by extraordinary movement and positional awareness.

Very impressive indeed, would like to face him again after i’ve finedtuned my build.

Its hard to practice though, most people run away or are with multiple people. So either i kill them while they are running or i get overrun. Unles its a small group, then its fun!

Find a tanky friend from another server to practice movement.
Make it a long fight so you can test many cooldown scenarios, using different environment tools etc.

On my S/D thief I often finissh fights without getting hit once.
Lonny, does this agains quite a bigger amount of ppl though.

I guess you just need a lot of practice with soloroaming and engaging several opponents.

The most important thing is to know when not to stomp. If you did not get much damage in the fight, but the stomp might drop you hard, just let them ress and continue teleporting around with sword.
So you can continue dropping that guy thill he finally dies completely.

Hm, I meant something like a viable 1vsX roamer build :-). High kiteability and high mobility w/ good dps avoiding. Conditionfocused also fine. I thought you’d solo a lot on ranger in open field :-).

Ill figure out sth and then I will share :-).

Norn is not an option though :-D. I only do female humans. Even though I’d prefer nornian facedesigns.

TheGreatA.4192:

MRA.4758:

Pheppo.9286:

Just another thing … as i charged alone into your zerg on the bridge to defend the hill and after I got killed … plenty of BB people danced on my dead body … :/

I still fail to see how this is taken as offensive. I find it rather funny. I often also use emotes to wave or salute to tower/keep defenders, and I want to assure everyone that is never meant ill. I also try to make a habit of using /bow after an 1v1 (well, at least the ones I am able to do an emote afterwards).

It’s just a game. Relax, and don’t take it too serious. (Und immer schön flauschig bleiben.)

~MRA

Those are signs of respect though. Being zerged by 30+ while solo defending and having people dance on your corpse is definitely not a sign of respect lol.

Seems we have exploiters on all sides now. Another reason why we shouldn’t blame a server for the actions of a few. There will always be bad apples.

About OdS, LOST is always willing to take you on with our 2-man zerg. If you get bored at killing dollys and ganking people we can have more duels.

Hey buddy. You need to post me your soloer ranger build, as I will be roaming solo a lot and thief/ele are just too easy.
I need to play SB though. You have to love it! Spam 2 in meleerange for incredible damage : -D.
Count me in for that duels, too!

ZStefanovic.2475:

That was probably him then, now i’m not the best thief player but i usually stand my ground. But this was just insane! i need to step up my game :P

Indeed he knows what he is doing and how to troll some numbers.
I teamed up with him for 30 min so I could see were and how he was moving while in stealth.
He seems to plan the next three moves like playing chess.

Its not an exotic build and the gear is berserker with ogre runes. He just avoids damage by extraordinary movement and positional awareness.

Please let gandara catch up a bit, I cba playing in t3 the week the Wv3-patch is supposed to go live.

Thank you!

I have 7000 badges waiting for the 26.03.
But if anything, they are goint to implement new currencies for ascended gear or sth.

If it was a spanish Charr Thief from OdS, it was probably Tikitaka.
He plays D/D ; S/P with heavy stealth, lots of shadowsteps and high burst. Definitely one of the best thieves I have been fooling around with, roaming side by side to troll zerglings.
Ask Keks from RS, 10 of those mediocre players were not able to catch him while he was finishing them off all the time :-).

genowefapigwa.5769:

Zumy.6318:

pedrst.3127:

Zumy.6318:

pedrst.3127:

Zumy.6318:

AG, please get new strength out there. Spent most time of the WE in tPvP

What is your glory rank Zumy?
I usually queue whole day without seeing you or any REQ I’m only rank 32 though, but usually i’m teaming with people lower rank then me around ~20 or so also, if you’re around these ranks we should meet up at least sometimes.

I startet playing tpvp a week ago sporadically. So I am 16. The rest is around 2X as we ordinarily were a smallscale wvw guild.

We dont Queue as REQ btw.

Edit: SEJANUS???

Yes fool
I’m either playing solo, or with Narsar, Xerizma, Powazappa, Klikacz and some others.

EDIT: How did you know it was me? :P

Wow, I hope I dont meet you :-D. Thats a hell of a team! We never get more than 2 exp tpvpers and me + 2 rndm.
Expected you to play in NA with Gorikor tbh.

Well, Jarul is in PX and your name is your first and lastname combined :-).

Me Sherlocksta!

Cheers m8! Hope you all are doing well!

EDIT: we qq 1v1 tourney mostly, to level me fast.

Zumy , Sejanus come to daddy! Your home should be Piken Noobs from Order !

I miss Karak Norn :-).
I will have a close look on the developments after 26.03.
If I get unlucky I will be on my own anyway, soon after the patch .

But people on Riverside need me! I am very popular here. :-).

Hope you polish fool dem nabs hard in Wv3!

Do you get a lot of aggro in RL too?
Might be something you do then.

;-)

2 fractal daggers? Better get rid of your life and farm hard. Very hard.

/period

Scepter looks great on ele. The lack of daggers with special particle effects is a shame though.

I faceroll those thirty! Just gimme some spayse to kite and some things to break LoS and I kill them all.
Actually I will kill them all 3 times until they wont get downed state anymore!

Drakenwald.

/15Drakenwalds

I got 2 drops in Wv3 already.

Zap was the best. After 4 hours of roaming, I go vendor and see those three orange letters :-D.

Do not expect it in the Apr/May/June updates.

Anything I play build for 1v1 in Wv3 is OP if I gank zergoptimized build ppl. Thank you for your attention.

Now move on. Nothing to see here.

General Ragefist.3952:

Hi,

the guys from [WvW] have asked us the [DTK] if we would GvG against them. I have replyed to that answere over forums PM but i have not gotten any respose to this day.
Someone here that could manage to bring me in contact with the [WvW] guys ?

greez General

Add some randomly chosen WvW-guys to FL and whisper IG. It has proven to work the best for me. There are quite a few roaming the threads in this forum.

If a Necro is not able to keep his opponent from running, he is bad and he should feel bad.

Awmahgawd spies! Get the torches and the pitchforks!

ReqX.3178:

Zumy.6318:

Dudedawgyhomiebrah, I have never manned a socalled siegecannon in my 1800 hours played <3. Neither anyone of my guild.

I did, I did, I did! Reading that thread kind of makes me sad that I didn’t join in this weekend for any second longer than it took me to finish the kittening daily,… not! -.-

@Lonny: I disassembled my VW T5 camper… I need to send some pics… so many screws ‘n’ bolts ‘n’ suff… funny sidenote: no matter what I repair, I always happen to have some of the parts left over. No matter if it is an iPad or a car… but the stuff still works afterwards…
Which brings me back to GW2: somehow the game works too (somehow) although so many screws are loose (either be it the game engine, the servers, the concept or the devs :-) )… just image what my car could do now if I know where to put all that funny screws… fly to the moon? Maybe… Now, what could we expect from GW2 if all that loose screws would be fixed, yeah indeed a good game after all :-)

Well, screw you all!

ps: Fact! GW2 forums “kitten” almost everything, but they obviously like to get screwed… q.e.d.

You were deeply missed!

Sure! Going to start queueing soon, as wvw is all about RS atm and no chance to get roaming fights.

pedrst.3127:

Zumy.6318:

pedrst.3127:

Zumy.6318:

AG, please get new strength out there. Spent most time of the WE in tPvP

What is your glory rank Zumy?
I usually queue whole day without seeing you or any REQ I’m only rank 32 though, but usually i’m teaming with people lower rank then me around ~20 or so also, if you’re around these ranks we should meet up at least sometimes.

I startet playing tpvp a week ago sporadically. So I am 16. The rest is around 2X as we ordinarily were a smallscale wvw guild.

We dont Queue as REQ btw.

Edit: SEJANUS???

Yes fool
I’m either playing solo, or with Narsar, Xerizma, Powazappa, Klikacz and some others.

EDIT: How did you know it was me? :P

Wow, I hope I dont meet you :-D. Thats a hell of a team! We never get more than 2 exp tpvpers and me + 2 rndm.
Expected you to play in NA with Gorikor tbh.

Well, Jarul is in PX and your name is your first and lastname combined :-).

Me Sherlocksta!

Cheers m8! Hope you all are doing well!

EDIT: we qq 1v1 tourney mostly, to level me fast.

Wamgor.9347:

I can understand that… sometimes feel it even when running 15-20 guys and always getting zerged by the entire zone… but atleast we have more of a chance to fight back than you guys do so its not as bad we have slim chance where you have 0.001%

Besides REQ & TDA not really sure of many small scale guilds anymore which is a shame. Amok/Baka maybe, a handful of guilds spread across tiers/servers… the rest are not either that active or memorable enough… I only do small scale late, so maybe there are some guilds ive missed out i dont see true strength of.

Its a shame not more on the small scale scene, the other small scale guilds encounter same issues as you and probally give up as they will think whats the point everyone zerging and with lack of GVG available in game, and your role kinda being destroyed by ANET nerfing supply camp buffed lords.

I can recall plenty of times when twice our number wont engage us, which is dissapointing, and i can recall even more times when we will engage over twice our number… have a similar attitude in regards to looking for fights just on a different scale, some people are too affraid of dying instead of participating in a good fight. Good fights is what the game is all about imo win or lose.

Maybe certain guild tags, or just having the same guild tag invokes fear amongst enemy… which is shame, its so tempting to swap our guild tags to see how the enemy approaches us differently… having guild tags is very double edged at times.

I dont consider REQ to be that well known tbh that ppl run if they see the tag. Actually most ppl just walk away when they see somebody charging them without retreat. no matter the numbers. Run to gate, get safe and fight with aoe blind, bolas and cannon from keep :-).

I am not stopping smallscale, even when I am alone. I played 4,5 years of bughammer, come at me GW2! :-P

But many other ppl just will leave, even in REQ.
As Lonny said. We already lack 2 of our strongest regular 5. Thats 40%. I dont say there arent players good enough out there. But find sb good, willing to smallscale and overall then be lucky and get him to fit in the group.

afterall, we are a bunch of flamers and trolls and need the guild to get our back for that very often. The servercommunity sure wont.

You earned my sympathy Wamgor, cheers!

pedrst.3127:

Zumy.6318:

AG, please get new strength out there. Spent most time of the WE in tPvP

What is your glory rank Zumy?
I usually queue whole day without seeing you or any REQ I’m only rank 32 though, but usually i’m teaming with people lower rank then me around ~20 or so also, if you’re around these ranks we should meet up at least sometimes.

I startet playing tpvp a week ago sporadically. So I am 16. The rest is around 2X as we ordinarily were a smallscale wvw guild.

We dont Queue as REQ btw.

Edit: SEJANUS???

Lonny.9873:

Wamgor.9347:

Everything all comes back to numbers… and most people’s soultion to that is get more numbers… not sure if you want to compromise your current gaming style and recruit to become a medium(10-15) sized guild then you will have the ability to fight and pull the zerg around without being totally roflstomped by mass numbers w/ no chance.

Not gonna happen.
ANet gave us 5man Groups and we gonna stick with it. To be honest we have some problems to even gather five really good players right now. Some of the best players I’ve played with are taking a break.
Zerging is not the only problem for them. But there is also a whole lack of small guilds trying to compete. During our good days we even met premades who outnumbered us(8vs5) and were still running away…
I can live with to get roflstomped by Zergs from time to time. But if everything you face is zerg it gets really frustrating….

This pretty much sums it up.
The lack of players confident enough to engage in smallscale, even if they might lose. At the end every fight will teach you something.

Mogar.9216:

I just like to say a few things as a solo player who is a part of zerg guild. I solo 90% of the time but when the guild need me I zerg as well.
1. People who do fight club are by far the top 1% of the wvw pop.
2. Zerg v Zerg is a completely different game from roaming solo.
3. It’s easy to transition from solo to zerg but not easy at all to go from zerging to the solo game.
4. Spvp is a whole different game from WvW solo. Heck tpvp is totally different from hot join.

What he said.

Blobbing is only happening in that way bc ANet is rewarding it over anything else. Zergs are nedded, i get that. But kitten 20ppl are now considered small platoons? This just went too far. Using phone atm. Pls excuse t9- fails.

Wamgor.9347:

I can understand your frustrations Zumy

Alot of small scale guilds are dissappearing from game this year, either merging with bigger guilds or just play less and less

More and more people are copying the higher tiers playstyle instead of having their own identity which is a shame and bad for general gameplay

I feel the change which effected supply camps is largely responsible, yes it slows down the zerg slightly when its buffed but it stops the use of small scale groups flipping supply camps as much as they use too, and running into other smaller groups doing the exact same thing… which produced potentially more equal fights

I know small scale dont exist in t2… alot of friends in t3 complain about lack of small guilds… before we left piken i know alot of 5-10 man guilds merged as they couldnt compete by themselves. So to see that effect happening in tier 4 is not very positive for gameplay imo

Everything all comes back to numbers… and most people’s soultion to that is get more numbers… not sure if you want to compromise your current gaming style and recruit to become a medium(10-15) sized guild then you will have the ability to fight and pull the zerg around without being totally roflstomped by mass numbers w/ no chance.

Other solution if it gets too bad, would be enquire about and x fer to lower tier to see if small scale culture still exists there… but you might have same issues if its just getting ingrained into player culture and mob/pack mentality too much instead of own identity.

Tank you, i really appreciate your effort! If Things were that simple… ;-)

Skydda.3192:

Well if people join up in zergs, let them! That’s WvW
If you want smallscale fights, you might want to have a look into sPvP :P Zerging can and will happen in WvW. People will run away, people will steamroll 1vs1 fights, might all happen, that’s different playstyles and that’s WvW!

I was just waiting for sb to drop the tpvp bomb. You know, there is more than One Way to experience Open pvp. Thanks for random comment. If you want to build Things and Hit buildings you might want to Test minecraft and for blobbing i propose the NY marathon. Tanks.

Strang.8170:

we had a little fun with half a dozen of us trebbing bb bay from their own tower….

Yeah, thats totally the pvp content I am looking for…

Also dont blame me for anything that has to do with a group bigger than 6 ppl.
We were roaming for about two hours and had one single good fight without opponents running away, playing cats and mice with a few dozens of BB pugs until they zerged up to a massive blob.
That was all the action we got out of 2 1/2 hours on two different BL.
Now you tell me what fault I have in everybody blobbing to massive ultrazergs.

Give Warhammer with GW2 Toons and Graphics!

Jscull.2514:

You guys should consider our tier. Structure pvp is terrible…. It’s whose bunker build can sit and take the beating remove conditions and heal as fast as possible inside a fjcking circle. How dumb and Uneventful. Open pvp is obviously the best, it’s where “pvp” started. Our tier has lower pops but a lot that wvw every night. Starting to c more 5 mans…. It is horrendously stupid there are over 5 guys in here alone like me that drive or are snall manning everyday…. All spread out fighting 40 terrible spammers of the number 1 button. Consolidation gents… It costs 17-20 in game gold. Give me a break that’s like 5 nights of 2-3 hours selling everything u pick up from kills in wvw…. Or a day of farming some dumass dungeon.

Even tough I’d love to, REQ is an EU guild, so this wont be an option at any time.

Ok, I’ll just walk by with any toon to check on you guys. HF!
Smallscale shall never die!

How is the attendance? Can be there in 3 hours :-(.

I totally agree. Zerging already forced our 5 man to tpvp or wait for the patch.
But as I am aware of the riscs of killing this “pvp”-game if vampires get to gamebreaking, this changes have to be done tender and smooth. Without the well known “exagerating 180° patch”.

Scumbag Mawile.6384:

Or maybe I’m just soft and not a hardcore archduelist like yourself and should keep my filthy peasant zergling mouth shut. :vvvvvvvv)

Pretty much this.

Lonny.9873:

and culling turning everyone into a ninja

Im sitting in a meeting trying to contain tears of laughter,kitten:-D.

culogordo.9413:

omg Zumy, how old are you? 12yo? 13yo?

Juzgando por tu nombre, no estas en posicion de preguntarme tal cosa.

Judging of your name you are not in any position to ask me this question.

;-)

Niim.9260:

Or… I could not take the forums seriously and not care that much. I think I will go with that.

This, good sir, is very reasonable and honourable. Though boring.

I guess I just dont know your guildtag as zerglings usually dont render from culling as they run through smallscalers.

You should try Leroy Jenkins Style. Might give you back the hability not to take yourself to serious ;-).
Smallscale group would have done the job just as well .

Its not me what you hate.
You hate the idea of lost. This causes fear, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate and hate, well you already know that young Sithlord.

Very good and even more special.
I am goodlooking, too.
Pics 50 bucks.

Shabanezzi.9386:

Zumy.6318:

Slomo.1029:

Zumy.6318:

Shabanezzi.9386:

Germans are coming…they bring many gifts…

:D

Never ever seen BAKA in this entire 5 or 6 weeks of AGvsRS. Nice to see new PvE hordlings joining the WvW-Zerg.

BTW, your signature is copyrighted by a big Warhammer troll. You dont deserve it.

You may not have seen him. But he was streaming the action for a long time now.

Sorry, I dont watch Zergcinema.

probably too busy manning that cannon in sm all day

would explain no sense of humor as well

Dudedawgyhomiebrah, I have never manned a socalled siegecannon in my 1800 hours played <3. Neither anyone of my guild.

But it sounds like somebody got baited into cannonrange and managed to die there, causing amusement and jiggling all over the walls of SM.