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(This post is not about dungeons & fractals, it’s mostly about general PVE, such as world bosses and events such as VW & Breach)
Ele staff damage needs to be seriously changed. Classes such as mesmer, ranger, thief, necro, guardian, engineer and to some point warrior can’t compete with Ele at all.
Why do these classes either do barely any damage at all (ranged) or have to go melee to do damage? What is the justification that, for example, thief has to fight melee to do small damage, while ele can pull off huge damage from 1200 range, which no class is able to come close to, without relying on Ele? (because Ice Bow and Meteor Shower bypass 5 target rule)
And why are weapon sets on Ele, such as Scepter/x (which is completely garbage in any PvE battle scenario, only might stacking) or Dagger/x, which actually involve a risk AND a rotation(high damage would actually be reasonable on them), so utterly garbage in comparison to staff + Ice Bow?
tl;dr why does ele do 100 times (sometimes) the damage other classes, such as thief, mesmer, ranger etc. do, without involving any risk and effort?
(This post is not only about dungeons & fractals, it’s also about general PVE and solo content)
Warrior simply is too good in comparison to other classes. Damage is among the top, warrior has vast, insane mobility, supreme group support (banners, might, boons, power trait etc.), supreme might stacking, high vitality + toughness and on top of that ridiculous defense mechanics.
Classes such as thief, mesmer, guardian, ranger and necro are ridiculously inferior in almost all aspects. When these classes actually are able to outshine warrior in certain aspects, they suck at (almost) everything else.
For example thief can compete mobility wise, but group support, damage, might stacking, survivability is all considerably worse.
Please Anet, bring warrior back in line, similar to Pre June patch, which might make other classes more viable. Warrior is so OP, I don’t even know why anyone should choose a melee class that is not warrior.
There’s no reason to fix the “wallsploit” currently. Anyone who wants to waste time on Lupicus can do that, other people not, it’s ok I think. Just like some people don’t want to skip while others want to skip or people using non-zerk gear.
I mostly only do PvP and it will eventually make me quit the game.
Do it
for those awful angel wings. Just my guess, but yea, you can make good money playing only pvp.
Good point, do you use that argument in real life as well? Like you can make good money as a laborer, it just needs 100x the time than someone else.
No
fifteen characters
I lost 7 out of 7 matches today. I don’t know why. It’s not even that I’m bad, I switch character so we don’t have double thief and 90% of the fights where I am, we win. Sadly I can’t be everywhere.
Since Anet wants to “remove” PVP from the game slowly (I think that’s the case, because the things you can see below), let’s give them solid advice on how to make PVP worse.
Apparently people still play PVP after Anet( which is bad because Anet wants to “remove” PVP)
- removed SoloQ
- forces every player to wait in Heart of the Mist and do nothing while at it
- is balancing the game in a half-year frequency and is doing really bad at it
- ‘s matchmaking is utter garbage
- makes you play against premade teams, when your team isn’t
- made the leaderboards and wins unrewarding (the one who grinds matches the most is on top)
- nerfed PVP rewards
- removed certain maps (but not the ones the community want to be removed)
- and instead introduces another bad, frustrating map, forcing you to always play ranked PVP
- messed up the rank system completely (I remember the days when I was impressed when I saw a shark, it was PRESTIGE, I was jealous)
- makes interesting & challenging builds bad and promotes cheese faceroll builds (shoutbow, bunker guard, d/d ele, turret engi, PU mesmer, signet necro, …), resulting in stalemate bunker meta
- doesn’t communicate and sits the problems out
- the entire community is toxic (because of above reasons)
To make PVP even worse,
I advise all teleports to be removed. This makes the game more boring because it will be harder to cap a point.
Additionally I propose that once you get into queue for unranked/ranked, you should be freezed and not able to interact with anything (just like the match ready window).
Another thing, which I think Anet would really benefit from, is to remove custom arenas, because 1 vs 1, 2 vs 2, pugquest etc. fun is something which shouldn’t be in the game, because it circumvents the efforts and measures Anet has done to deliberately remove players from PVP.
Hmmh, I’ve done backstabs up to 17k, but that’s with a full trap setup, zerker stats and scholar runes. In other words, if you don’t kill your enemy within the next few seconds of the traps going off, you’re dead.
Why do you even post this kitten? You can’t kill your enemy within a few seconds, it’s impossible. If you think that’s much watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeZKmrKQZ_0
Something a thief would not be able to pull off.
My subjective feeling is that Thief’s DPS is going to be (judging from last beta) bad in comparison to other classes. (Revenant, Necro, Warrior, Engineer, Ele DPS should be higher, perhaps Mesmer and Ranger too?)
Since DPS is worse than other classes and classes such as guardian, mesmer, ele, warrior, revenant support the group so much better, is there any place for thief in parties? Will thief be the current necro?
I can imagine mesmer stealthing the party and ele + group blinding the enemies, so I assume there’s no need for stealth & blindbot.
It’s kinda sad for me to see that this class is getting worse with (almost) every update, while some classes get passive 25 stacks might, get invisibility etc.
I’ve personally taken 11k backstabs recently in sPvP.
PROVE IT!
I think thief is in terms of DPS worse than warrior, engineer, ele, necro, and possibly revenant. Additionally mesmer, guardian has much better support.
NO ! Make it baseline
Why would I dodge that attack? It doesn’t always do 3k. I have weakness, blind, invis, teleport, CC etc. etc.
Very boring, clunky gameplay. I’m not gonna play this. Also hardly any harmony with stealth and I don’t see how daredevil makes weapon sets such as P/X or S/P any better.
Daredevil could be fast-paced gameplay class, but staff skills have so long aftercast or take so long to cast that precise dodging is hardly possible.
Am I wrong?
thief struggles against every class in 1 vs 1, it’s normal
Hey everyone. I’m a new player. Before I begin my rant, let me precede by telling you the kind of games I play frequently: DoTA2, Battlefield 3 & 4, Starcraft II, Dragon Age: Origins. For single player games I play on a harder difficulty because I like challenge, and as for the others, I play PvP because I like in-depth mechanics, strategy, and a good challenge.
On to GW2. I picked this game up because my friends raved about it, and after reading the stunning reviews, I went ahead and took the plunge and bought the game. I played World of Warcraft a long time ago and thought that was a decently challenging game. But right now I have a level 9 sylvari and all I can say is this game is INCREDIBLY, INCREDIBLY, INCREDIBLY, INCREDIBLY EASY and BORING!
I am “completely” floored by how easy it is to “kill stuff”. I don’t even need to use 2, 3, or 4, all I do is walk up to stuff (that is my level or higher) and kill in 6 or less hits with auto-attack. Am I missing something here? I haven’t bought anything from the stores. Does the game get harder as you go along? Does the PvE get any better than this? My experience feels way different than everyone else, and I’m wondering if I’m doing it wrong. What exactly makes this game so great to stand out amongst the other MMO’s on the market? Maybe it isn’t for me, but judging by the reviews there’s got to be some hidden substance.
Thanks for the help.
Game doesn’t get challenging with “end-game-content”. Simply autoattack with some weapon skills on CD is enough for everything. There’s no challenge, everything is easy, you don’t need to think at all. Fractals might become challenging when your teammembers use wrong gear and are very bad in general.
There is a player who kills one of the strongest bosses in game (if you kill him solo) with one finger and without any gear.
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Hey,
what am I supposed to do against burning guard and lots of D/D eles with the meta build from metabattle (Shatter)? Someone knows a better build perhaps?
PS: I can’t rely on guards or eles to cleanse the burning…
Either
- Get a team to carry you.
- Don’t use a metabattle meta build -_-u
Feeling kinda useless without stun trait line though, was hoping for input
D/D, + perhaps Bunker Guard / Cele Nec / Invuln Engi
outsustain everything = gg
what is zerk even good for? it’s only useful for thief and mesmer because they rely on stealth either way
hope they revert the fire/air sigil change and nerf D/D ele thoroughly SOON
opinions?
When I try to finish D/D in 4 vs 4 / 5 vs 5 I need to come close obviously and burn guard can use his teleports to catch me out of guard and give me 6 stacks burning before I can even pop anything
Hey,
what am I supposed to do against burning guard and lots of D/D eles with the meta build from metabattle (Shatter)? Someone knows a better build perhaps?
PS: I can’t rely on guards or eles to cleanse the burning…
ranger rapid fire follows you in stealth you didnt know
i hate this kind of streamer. just because he has 300++ viewer he doesnt interact with viewers anymore. when he was still under 300 he thanked for each follow, answered questions and now that he got beyond that threshold he has become yet another twitch streamer only streaming for his own gain. disappointed
this streamer (rom on coke for anyone curious) is a bad example for every gw2 player and someone who wants to become one
token key is private, i don’t think people will copy it and paste it all over gw2, so that everyone can check out their acc to see if hack might be worth it ..
Unless they keep the Assassin name and give us a rifle/long bow anyway, I just don’t want a generic melee assassin.
So what? Who cares
I liked assassin in GW1 and I would like to see something similar in GW2 too.
I would hate to see it go down a route that would just end up being generic assassin spec that gives us perma stealth, high single target damage but very squishy.
I disagree 90%
Why would you want to nerf D/P, no reason for it. Needs buffs not nerfs.
Mesmer – it’s OP and you can one-shot everything from stealth while portalling your team across the map once per minute.
show how it’s op. mesmer can’t one-shot anything and can’t portal his team across the map once per minute. learn to get your facts right !!!
Last night I decided to spend it doing fractals, in the 18 full fractal runs I was kicked out 4 times at the last boss of them, its making me wanna give up on fractals all together. I whispered some of them to ask why there kicked me and was told cause a guild friend wanted to join. Others responded with a lol or a haha. NOW I wouldn’t mind if there was normal dungeons but these fracts take about 45 mins pluss. THIS NEED TO BE ADDRESSED ANET
i think this post is obsolete then, read the latest fractal update post
I’d like stolen skills that are not highly situational (and therefore useless).
And especially stolen skills that are not countered by the opposing class. (Blind / Block / Dodges on Guard & Ele, hard to hit those two)
D/D ele even stronger now, I like that. /s
is fire/air still > other sigils (force for example) ? in regards to burst like on thief mesmer
OP is a thief hater
Thief needs nothing
stopped reading there
I was the elementalist on the other team and I have no idea how any of you would get offended by that. I am very familiar with the team we fought and am friends with most of them. It was literally playful banter. There was no harmful intention behind it. This hasn’t been the first time those words have been used in Guild Wars 2 and won’t be the last. If you have children watching COMPETITIVE tournaments, then that’s at your hands, not the players. I am not limiting my language because of a couple kids watching. It is the Internet, nothing is censored. You should be the smart one to figure that out.
The sad thing is that the SJWs will keep posting regardless of your clarification.
yeah. social differences are actually very nice because it makes the game more exciting, funnier, memorable etc.
the video of op was nothing special and not out of order. troll thread
on thief (48 seconds), but on other classes only15 seconds CD (TRAITS)?!?!??!
maybe i’m missing something?
first off : ur back item is ugly … now im angry
also i think ur opponents might not be the brightest childs on the planet !
Go for zerk. You can blind every trash mob and tank every open world boss with Pistol Whip + Invigorating Precision
There’s no need for anything other than zerk. Celestial is a terrible choice for a thief. If you want some more HP, use Zerk / Valkyria Combo
Lol, all I read was “I’m a Mesmer and d/p thief are amazing because I said so and you need to believe me.”
so we better all believe him right? :/
he’s a mesmer lobbying for his mesmer cause. i dont believe him
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Teef-Stacking-vs-Walling-conditions/first
The leader of [Teef] wrote this up and sent it to me to post for him. It talks about how to make thief’s conditions effective. Coming from almost 3 years of theorycrafting. Alot of thieves found it useful so there is something to it. Also with thief’s in combat mobility, kiting shouldn’t be that much of a problem.
You can’t kite on a point in PVP. Kiting is time doing no damage, which is bad in PVE.
You can’t kill someone in PVP or WVW, because he just runs away.
I’ve yet to see a good player who plays condi and actually does something, which is equal to D/P.
How do you deal with CC and condi cleanse in WVW or PVP? Is that build meant to be for PVE?
Why do you run S/D on it? I think melee staff which pressures enemy with additional condis additionally would suit it much better and you could use your utilities better.
condition burst can come from d/d and p/d
???
d/d takes ages to build up and p/d can’t burst by any means.if melee staff is condi, you no longer need to kite and hide in stealth the enemy to get condi damage off
condi is utterly garbage on thief. with a new condi weapon that allows active gameplay (instead of passive stealth kiting the enemy) that might change. melee staff is not necessarily stupid vs rifle.
d/d actually has 10s bleeds and with max condition duration will bump it up to 20s. So with d/d you can actually stack bleeds pretty high. p/d actually can put up a decent wall of conditions, especially for this class. Not alot of players know how though.
with one skill that’s highly telegraphed and drains a lot of initiative, it also takes a lot of time. enemy just needs to kite you and once you have no init left, kill you.
p/d only has bleed and torment (immob is not relevant, crap skill). torment is really low and short and is really hard to hit the enemy with, proper bleed requires you to kite enemy and outlast him(where is the burst?). all these condis can be cleansed easily. all skills cost lots of init.
and among all that it’s single target damage. condi cleave damage from staff is very nice and allows for more diverse gameplay
condition burst can come from d/d and p/d
???
d/d takes ages to build up and p/d can’t burst by any means.
if melee staff is condi, you no longer need to kite and hide in stealth the enemy to get condi damage off
condi is utterly garbage on thief. with a new condi weapon that allows active gameplay (instead of passive stealth kiting the enemy) that might change. melee staff is not necessarily stupid vs rifle.