I don’t know why necro got it but outside of that, not every profession is supposed to be a speed demon plain and simple.
Mesmers share some of the speed of a thief, not quite all of it.
However I thought signet of inspiration was going to provide only swiftness outside of battle…or at least it seemed like that was what they were implying.
dude what are you talking about, share some speed of the speed with a thief???? share some speed of the speed of a thief? WHAT ARE THEY SHARING??? thieves get a signet with +movespeed as well as skills that give them swiftness. they share 0% of speed with a thief. ZERO. mesmers have no skill that gives them speed directly. the only way to guaranteed give yourself a move speed boost is a skill on an offhand weapon. if that weapon is not part of your build have fun walking around tyria while your team is half a map away. running around with mesmer is just a pain in the kitten and one i wont be dealing with for a while. just gonna put my mes on back burner and play other classes so i dont get that falling asleep feeling while i chase my team around wvw.
i really like them, ive went through about 75 and i can say its nice to think that the chance of NOT getting an ecto is pretty rare.
I just can’t see my mesmer shooting butterflies out of the Halloween legendary…I just can’t make it work
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im sorry my friend but i am hitting about as hard as your gs with a 1h sword and i could have stayed in the middle of that crowd without having to continually dance out. i am sorry to be so critical but neither the damage nor the survivability were impressive, im just not sure what this build is doing.
Then why not share your build?
because its a guild build and unfortunately i cannot share the information. maybe ill post a wvw screen shot or something as my comp cannot handle fraps and wvw at the same time. I will tell you this tho i am not using berserkers armor.
guardians run INTO the fight. not away. yo man, you COULD be a mesmer. you get one single swiftness skill and its on an offhand weapon so if you dont wanna use that weapon… too bad you better have it on your weapon set or your team is gonna be half a map away from you 99% of the time in wvw.
Like i was saying i can understand different tastes on weapons and stuff and how some people could prefer one of the other, but like that frostfang guy said, it only takes you 2 seconds to look at some of these and realize its not worth the effort.
All the while you got some guy swinging sunrise around and your like “O KITTEN IS THAT A LEGENDARY WAY OVER THERE THAT I CAN SEE FROM HERE BECAUSE ITS GLOWING AND HE IS A LEGENDARY PLAYER??”.
I would like to go for something like the bard and have people say “Hey look its the legendary focus!” not “i wonder what karma vendor sells that.” Meteorologist looks cool an all if you are up on the character but think about this, the juggernaught changes your entire armor skin. your ENTIRE armor gets a metallic sheen. When you run by someone with a meteorologist the chances are you wont even notice it.
Once i ran all of TA with someone who had one and didnt even notice till at the end part after the boss when i was zooming in on people. Do you think that would have happened with twilight, sunrise, the juggernaught, the shield, or bolt? of course not they out bling the spell caster legendaries by far and it shows.
TBH guys i dont think anet will edit anything with these weapons. If you happen to come across this thread dont even bother complaining, just use it as a heads up; that if your going to go for a legendary make it count. Go for something swordy and melee so you dont get disappointed once you craft the minstrel or quip.
people like you fail to see the near impossibilty of getting items that require charged lodestones legitimately. the two people i knew that had items of similar value cheated and got banned. it promotes unhealthy game play and an unhealthy economy. the price will only go up as gold buyers will be the only ones to afford it and buy up the very small supply with ill-gotten money. no one is asking us to hand it to us, we are just asking anet to let us farm for the kitten item.
This is the equivalent of saying: guns kill people. Guns don’t kill people; people kill people. Cheaters are not going to stop cheating simply because there’s an easier farming method than before.
You sound like a typical repub with money who could care less bout those with less money. Go figure
Ignorance is bliss. Go figure. I have an average job and choose not to spend my money on GW2. Either way, the amount of money I have has no relevancy to my response. I’m not entirely sure why you’re trying to connect the two but I can assure you, there is no relationship. It sounds like you’re attempting to frame me as an elitist but unfortunately for you, I’m not.
think you missed the point of my reply, is that the supply is small, and guess who will be able to afford them? wont be regular players and the price is getting higher. your trying to hard to play devil advocate its sad. i dont need to sit here and convince anyone how hard it is to get lodestones or how expensive they are. plenty of players already know. and to the player that gets “10 lodestone a week” and even more cores. you can cut the “lol my magic luck im so pro” stuff out. do you really think we arent out here in fracs and coe? we know exactly what the farm rate is like.
it also seems like quite a few of non-legendaries use them, yet they are the most rare lodestone. really sucks for people trying to make legendaries that use them. my guess it will not be addressed the other ones will be nerfed.
well i decided to farm mine instead of buying them. WITH help from guildmates im up around 8 cores and 1 lodestone after more than a month. these definately need to be made more available.
for people saying purchase gems to buy charged lodestones(second poster i believe), right now 20 dollars gets you 32 gold. some of the items will take you over 1000 gold in cores/lodestones to make. thats about 312 dollars for a non legendary item that just takes alot of cores. thats 2-3 years of a subscription on another game. think about it.
I don’t understand this sense of entitlement that people have nowadays. It doesn’t matter that Mjolnir costs more than Volcanus. If you want it, put the time and effort in that’s needed to farm it; don’t expect to have it handed to you. The same thing goes for legendaries. If you want a legendary that’s apparently harder to farm, then farm harder. Don’t complain about it on the forums because it doesn’t seem fair to you.
people like you fail to see the near impossibilty of getting items that require charged lodestones legitimately. the two people i knew that had items of similar value cheated and got banned. it promotes unhealthy game play and an unhealthy economy. the price will only go up as gold buyers will be the only ones to afford it and buy up the very small supply with ill-gotten money. no one is asking us to hand it to us, we are just asking anet to let us farm for the kitten item.
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really wish someone from A-net would respond to this. you obviously cant send them but yet the game lets you drop it to give it away. is stacking sieg on your commander illegal? i.e. IF WE DO THIS WILL WE GET BANNED FOR SOMETHING THE GAME HAS IMPLEMENTED.
Well sure in the long run ( very long run ) I could get all 4 I guess.
Erigais, with 10g a day that’s a lot of attempts at the mystic forge to get your precursor for a lot cheaper than outright buying it. I spend 23 silver on one rare weapon, so around 1 gold per mystic forge attempt at a precursor.
I really like the looks of the greatswords and the hammer. The Scepter / Focus are nice but I think they’re be put on the back burner until ArenaNet can do something positive with the Scepter for Guardians.
Thanks for all your input, really!
so your saying its better to try to forge one out then outright buy? cuz at this point ive given up.
this is why i hate gw2. someone gets lucky and gets 4 kittening precursors, and im struggling grinding every day to get one. i farm about 10gold a day. the cost of the one i want goes up 10 gold a day.
im sorry my friend but i am hitting about as hard as your gs with a 1h sword and i could have stayed in the middle of that crowd without having to continually dance out. i am sorry to be so critical but neither the damage nor the survivability were impressive, im just not sure what this build is doing.
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Weaknesses:
The main weakness of this build is the retaliation buff. Our big damage causing skills are multi-hit and fast attacks, causing the damage from retaliation to add up very quickly. Pistol/Dagger thieves and D/D bunker ele’s are also very annoying for this build too because of their mobility. This build actually has a decent amount of mobility between flashing blade, leap of faith, and judge’s intervention, however we have no lock down skill to hold other classes in place. The up side to this build however is that in most cases neither of these classes can kill you too quickly, and most of the times it is a stalemate due to your self heals. However I do suggest switching to Scepter/torch if you do end up going 1v1 against these classes, as GS will generally slow you down.If anyone has any ideas on how to improve this build or any suggestions on different sigils/utilities please share. I hope you all find this build helpful in WvW.
this is pretty much weakness with guardian in general. bunker eles and thieves are annoying for everyone. they are just too kitten good at escaping.
the hard thing im trying to get from this build is what exactly is your focus? to do more damage to survive or find a happy medium?
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I wish they could at least tell us if they have no plans to update the affects as making one is quite the undertaking.
Everyday i debate with guildmates whether its worth working on one if its not one of the melee weapons because there are a few i have in mind but i just feel like its not worth the effort that i could be putting into something thats worth it.
*edit. i gave up, im working on bolt or infinite light. if im gonna slam my dick into a mouse trap i might as well make it worth it.
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wish it was available on other weapons. dont think i really care about chill on a hammer when i can just knock them down.
10 mesmers per spvp match simply isn’t good enough.
WE NEED 8vs8 MESMERS EVERY SINGLE GAME BECAUSE IT’S FUN.
Please give mesmers a 25% speed increase and make sure the clones get the buff too so people don’t have time to evade or regen the energy to evade our 9k shatters.I love this class.
Loved it in GW1, and is the only class I play in GW2, but cmon ppl….Isn’t sword 3 good enough for you ? It not only cripples, but also ports you to your target AND immobilizes them.
Focus 4 interrupts/knocksback all targets near it, 50% cripples enemies who walk over it, AND gives allies a 33% speed boost.
When traited, it EVEN REFLECTS PROJECTILES.
On top of all that, it’s a combo field…
NOT GOOD ENOUGH……We have a trait to increase our speed for each active illusion and with it, I can (and do) run around auto-attacking ppl to death with my sword.
STILL NOT GOOD ENOUGH.Please.
ok well spvp is only one aspect of the game and a small one at that. its no fun being half a map away from your team in wvw because your cant get swiftness at all ever. and teleport is not a reasonable alternative. sure you port away but then that thief or war runs right over to you, walks you down and pwns your face for free. a movespeed buff outside of combat would be fair and one of the main reaons why im never on my mez is because i just feel so damn slow all the time compared to my engi and guardian.
i dont understand this post, as far as i understand crafting is 100% profit when done the right way.
Yeah, there is a rather sparing difference between the look and style of the Legendary Greatswords (and arguably some others like the Hammer, Sword etc.) and all the other Legendaries.
While taste is subjective some weapons don’t even have particle effects or footprints. They are virtually indistinguishable from regular weapons when not in use.
exactly, take the juggernaught for example. when you wield it your whole armor takes on a metallic sheen. with, bolt lightning surrounds you and touches the ground. even frostfang has foot prints of ice it leaves behind. they look and appear legendary. i understand tastes different but its not hard to see a little but more effort went into some of these to appear “legendary” than the rest. i dont want people thinking what karma vendor i bought my item from i want them thinking “holy kitten is that a legendary weapon?”
Real talk. they look like kitten. lets be honest here. compare GS, Juggernaught or bolt to something like the scepter or focus, its a world of quality difference yet the uphill climb is the same. no one is breaking their neck to buy bard off the trading house, you know why? cuz its junk. ill never forget reading the forum from the first person who crafted it, “what a dissapointment, wish i could get my money back”
hello! i do not play thief. or guardian. when i am in a dungeon and i see one without p/p or staff and have no other way to do ranged attacks i will promptly kick them.
so any thief who agrees with op know what people think about you when you do a dungeon.
many people know doing dungeons with ranged can be ez mode on many parts. no one expects you to range 100% of the time, but when you need to do it you better have it or GOODBYE.
start leveling other classes looks like this one is untouchable for a while.
What runes you running?
anything that gives more condition damage that you can afford, rune of the nightmare is nice and has a chance to stop melees dead in their tracks when they start to combo you.
I am unable to check the game right now but i think i may be running krait runes, ill come back and edit this post once im able to check.
if i am on pistol/shield i mini in hard times or dodge alot and refil your dodge with elixir r. dont forget that minis f3 skill will give you stability or invis, also very helpful for thos melees.
imho if you are doing pistols you should be going condition damage as 5 out of 5 of your skills is doing a condition. 3/5 are doin condition damage. I got full carrions and it rips people apart in wvw. there is no way to cure from the bleed a pistol does because it will be reapplied right away. rifle == power/crit, pistol/pistol – pistol/shield == condition damage
So i bought Tier 3 Norn Shoulders and body for my engi.
My hair clips through the shoulder piece and just looks terrible.
After spending 50 gold you can bet im pretty upset by this.
Heres to hoping it can be fixed in a future patch, im aware clipping issues and polygons are pretty complicated and I wish you guys the best of luck for finding a good solution. Thankyou for having this stickied topic to post in, it means alot to me as a player.
*edit as i see this has been an issue for a while and its kinda known. there probably wont be a fix in the near future, is there a way i can get a free hair remake so i can run around with tier 3 without looking completely ridiculous. maybe it sounds like im begging for free stuff but all i want is to wear my expensive as hell gear without looking like an idiot cuz i picked a hair set with clipping issues. even if an arenanet employee had to pick one for me i dont care as long as i can wear my tier 3 in peace.
*2nd edit. oK so… i used gems and got a different hair. its too bad the hair i picked at creation had so many problems with high collars. 70 gold worth of tier 3 gear. finding out your hair from creation poops on it and having to blow more gold on a hair cut from the gem store. priceless. advice from someone who threw gold in the trashcan cuz of clipping issues. pick hairs that are short and in a bun. in fact with everything with your character try to make sure no polygon touches another polygon.
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One trick i like to pull is if i have quickening elixir on the bar i throw out the f3 skill just to shoot through it. One of them stacks up blindness which can be quite helpful, another one stacks confusion when you shoot through it. Also while the mini elixir can be helpful to defend your self(giving mini, invis, or stability), it can also be used aggressively. Use any of the three to guarantee finishing off a downed opponent.
Also many engineer skills can be used without taking up the skill slot cooldown. For example. You like healing turret but you also need swiftness. Put on your healing medkit, hit the 5 skill gaining swiftness now switch to healing turret. You should be able to use the healing turret because the skill is not on cool down. I almost never use medkit in battle but i always switch to it to get the swiftness off of it then switch off to the healing skill i want.
Hello! I run only Alchemist and this is what i use.
http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#mcMzz9mMoRvMMoGvMax0x0VoVbMRq
I do not support and i feel like if you want to support your team you should spec and gear accordingly.
My gear is full carrions, jewelry and all. it focuses on condition damage. Stack up your might with elixirs before you enter battle and during the battle. After that simple bleed, poison, and burn your foes away.
If you are doing pistol/pistol or pistol/shield go condition damage because going full power/crit is better suited for rifle.
I actually started out pistol/shield but found it was only helpful defending and not chasing and i had no way to slow or immobilize people. Taking damage from arrow carts back out and put on shield. Roaming and killing? Put on the glue gun.
I use mini when i think i need more survivabilty, this skill is amazing and is in my bar most time. Sometimes I swap this out with quickness potion as its more aggressive and lets me really put the pressure on. Eventually you will know the situations you need condition removal elixirs, elixir R, or whatever the situation requires but im just showing you what i roll around with in wvw most times.
Goodluck and i’ll check back here if you have any other questions.
Yeah… but i see some other classes going opposite to their class stereotypes too. elementalists have a staff stereotype, but they can still use daggers. necromancers have a focus, dagger staff stereotype but where the heck did axes come from? Rangers have a longbow/shortbow/dagger stereotype but they can only use offhand dagger, aaand they still have greatsword and axe use, which is out of the blue. Generally, if you thought of these professions outside of Gw2, they typically don’t have these weapons. But Anet made the skills to fit the profession for that weapon, which is why they’ve become accepted. They can do the same thing for thief greatsword I think!
this is tru, gs wasnt what came to mind when i thought mesmer but i really like the idea of it now. i dont even play thief but i would really like to see uncharacteristic weapons on some classes. maybe in a future expansion we could see this. i think it would be really cool.
get dungeon gear, f- that karma shiz.
im using full hotw right now. tanky with condition damage. i’ll probably change this to more of a glass cannon build later tho.
to actually let the players kill bots…. zomg that sounds so fun.
well… i see there are a lot of strongly felt responses and i hope i can help you guys out with some of your problems with story mode. i have story mode finished on most dungeons. how did i do this? ez. my guild.
my guild helped me run through most of them and we learned how to beat most of the story modes together. and now the people that did it the first time through are able to help new members complete their story modes in turn. i am not saying this to troll or to be a jerk but if your guild is not helping you or other members run them consider switching guilds or at least spending more time in another guild that actually does things together. else what would be the point of a joining a guild?
you really cant expect pugs to go out of their way to help you complete something necessary for your character development because to be honest they just dont care about you or your progress. your guild however, should.
Tier 2 is pretty expensive for some mediocre gear.
Tier 3 is only describable by having the auto swear filter place kitten about 9 times in a sentence.
25 gold for the whole set would be quite a bit considering the stats are worse than
dungeon gear and arguable not as good looking as most of it.
but 20 gold a piece? are you guys nuts? and the stats suck adding insult to injury.
im not seriously gonna blow 100 gold for a bunch of rares. i dont think their are many other players that will either.
With my 400 artificer i can make potions for every dungeon, except ascalon.
What are ghosts considered? just ghosts? do undead potions not work against them? Is there no ghost potion?
You’re probably not going to like my suggestion, since you’re already in full exotic gear and it’ll be an expensive switch but…
-Run a condition/power/vitality build with dual pistols, and melt face in PvE and PvP.
-Elixir H, B, S & R is all you ever need. Supply Crate for ultimate.
-0/20/20/30/0 in traits.
-Carrion gear with matching socketed gems (Chrysocola)Of all the builds I’ve tried none have been more reliable to me than this. I’ve used it to complete 100% of the map solo, and have over 500 kills in wvwvw with less than 150 character deaths.
It doesn’t make you invincible, you still have to play smart, but this build has all the necessary tools to survive and still dish out increadible damage to multiple targets.
Knowledge of kiting is highly recommended.I still don’t have enough Ecto to craft my exotic jewellery yet.
funny enough this is almost the same build i run in spvp, i never really tried it in pve but i guess ill give it a shot now. one of the elixirs i run goggles in its place. but ill try your exact here in the upcoming days.
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K, gonna start working on a mesmer tank for fun.
Im thinking getting some retaliation stuff, mad dodge skills, and blocks.
Yeah i know 1 shot im gonna be dead but thats where the fun of this is.
so…
lets hear some suggestions for me to try out. While i do have an 80 mesmer i dont wanna
be blowing money restating for pve and wvw all the time so this will mainly be tested in sPvP. Ill be checkin back to share my results. i dont wanna see no posts like “go guardianLOL!”, remember this is for fun.
I'm seeing a lot of sadness about Scepters. Here's a 101 on them if it's a weapon you've never really used.
in Mesmer
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i main scepter/focus in wvw. imho all the weapons are good for different situations. i like sword in spvp but in wvw it would be near useless as getting in close to 10x people will usually mean death. so it will not be as good unless you are 1v1-3 ing someone you caught out of position. i absolutely love scepter in wvw and pve it does things other weapons just dont do. if you cannot appreciate confuse on the thief that is killing your friend i dont know what to tell you. i wouldnt use this weapon in spvp or certain dungeons but i really like it fine the way it is.
not impressed, takes you quite a long time to kill people. that dimensions pvp dude has some pretty good vids.
have you guys seen these guys from fort aspen? they run around with two little skull dudes and they are imposible to kill. i seen like 10 guys fight them and all of them died. hax?
any know if this is fixed after maintenece? im a little too sleepy to stay up and try to get a group together to waste time in a broke dungeone.
yep, happened to my group as well. someone else in the party said it also happened when they attempted to do the run early. atm not running this dungeon anymore more as it just doesnt work. there is no way around the bug other than exiting.
i really dont know what they could have done to break it. there was really no need to touch HoTW as it was the only dungeon that was pretty bug/exploit free up to this point.
this dungeon is stupid, and i hate it.
title says it all, people are exploiting it.
- way to beat ac, have a way to remove conditions from yourself at least if not others, and PAY ATTENTION.
i think the main reason would be because people cry about balance when they cant 1v1 everyone in pvp.
<3 vistas.
sup.
imho SHOULD HAVE TWICE AS MANY BEFORE 100%
@Embolism oh yea im talking stictly PvE. Since mobs don’t stack boons really since you don’t want to get hit at all pretty much you get 1 shot.
Getting one shot by a non-telegraphed attack is a myth. Mesmers do just fine in melee, and with a decent build are almost at necro levels of dealing with Damage. A one-handed sword is generally our top damaging attack chain (as well as self-maintaining Vulnerability).
Being able to stay in melee with a sword (rather than a pistol) means that on a short cooldown we can block any one effect (including huge aoe blasts) without ever having to leave melee range. It just requires a better connection than cups attached together via string.
In PvE, the Illusionary Swordsman also evades during its entire attack chain, meaning unilke the pistol, it readjusts its position to keep distance, and actually has a higher survivability than Duelist that just stands in any/everything.
And of course, Blurred Frenzy is probably one of the most imbalanced spells in the game, for any melee, for any profession period.
i agree with everything said here. i have spvp’d alot and i have to say, as long as you are PAYING ATTENTION you can stay in melee range all day. you just have to spec to make sure you are hard to hit.