Guild Wars 2

AlphatheWhite.9351:

you have to divide the initial casting time by 1.5 to get the final casting time.

Correct, doing math in my head while working on 3 different things at once while still at work was a bad idea.

Quick answer would be “2.75 / 1.5” seconds faster. Long answer, would have to actually test it in game… However, swords AA would benefit from quickness much more since it doesn’t have the 1s cooldowns between hits like the mantra does.

3x MoP rate is not 2.75, 2.75 is the activation time which is only part of the attack cycle. The time to blow those 3 charges is a minimum of 3 seconds in addition to the activation time. This does lower the dps number by quite a bit but after quick math its actually not too bad (just a little lower than the sword aa). On paper this is starting to look quite appealing, especially since you can channel your healing mantra while blowing MoP charges, for more Harmonious Mantra stacks and sustain.

Also, consider this.

Decent party sustains about 40k dps and bursts around 100k dps for ~7 seconds. One frost spirit adds 7% dps which roughly equals to 2.8k dps sustain and 7k dps burst increase for the party. Buffed swordsman does around 1.7k dps and has no burst. Waiting 13 seconds for 3x swordsman dps is not really an option in dungeons…

Base HP

• Phantasm – 5,821
• Spirit – 7,415

Traited HP

• Phantasm – 6,985
• Spirit – 14,832

A spirit that can be summoned on demand, doesn’t die when enemy dies, follows you around or can be summoned at a static location of your choice, has more HP than phantasms, provides more dps than your swordsman but has the exact same base cooldown as that swordsman. Yeah, sounds very balanced to me…

DuckDuckBOOM.4097:

Why not mantra of pain spam with some aoe healing to survive the green light?

No math or science to back myself up but I did try that quite a times. The gut feeling was that the dps lost while channeling the mantra is too much even if you pull off few more hits with higher light stacks due to mantra healing. Where I did find mantra heals useful is where you intelligently spam all 4 mantras to keep your whole party alive at higher stack count. Which, is not really a problem in organized guild runs and those “meta” pug runs but may be a problem in a pretty bad pug run.

For that encounter I usually equip Ether Feast and Mental Anguish & Master of Fragmentation traits. Once I’m about to die, I summon 3 clones, heal up, blow all my mantras, and shatter with F1. 3 clones provide me with quite impressive heal and a shatter that hits pretty kitten hard. That is enough healing & dps that I don’t even bother going the healing through mantra route.

cool, just add me in game then to we can coordinate. since my main accnt is busted you’ll have to add frifoxi.1428 or frifoxy.6014 for NA/EU accnts respectively, frifox.5283 has only access to the forums…

Fay.2357:

summons frifox for a dps test in BWE3

no hot = no bwe or chrono goodies for me

though, if its just measuring dps then I’m all ears

Well informed critique. Sword cleave is not pretty horrid due to the target limit, but also the radius. It’s pretty sad doing Arah p1 entities with all classes cleaving the champs down while strafing while I’m swinging there at nothing simply because my sword side-cleave is too 2@#$$!@n narrow.

The only thing I miss is blocking unblockable projectiles with utraited Warden.

I see, if you’re actually killing mobs consistently then it does make a lot of sense. I’ve been speaking strictly about ooc mobility, such as when running around getting waypoints and vistas, and of course the dungeon trash runs where getting in combat while running can be quite fatal.

That sigil has a fatal flaw, you need to get in combat to get swiftness. Just use centaur runes and hylek pots with med packs and med kit. With that you can get like 2 min of ooc swiftness in no time.

rogerwilko.6895:

no, I usually get insta kicked.

I play a condi mes in dungeons more than I’d like to admit. The key is to make your own lfg with a description clear enough to attract like-minded players. I have never been kicked from those runs, even with my 700 AP. If you’re getting kicked then there is a problem, most likely with you and not whoever kicked you.

stambogalizi.8356:

deep freeze is exploit enjoy ur ban

Already enjoying it (my main accnt is perma banned…)

XD

This is something that’s been bugging me for months now. In a party that has at least 1 ele and 1 thief, this happens:

Rotation 1
- Ele uses Deep Freeze + Storm
- Thief spams Headshot stripping defiance
- Either Thief picks up 2nd Icebow and does DF + Storm
- Or, yells at someone in the party to use DF + Storm for him

Rotation 2
- Ele Deep Freeze + Storm
- Whoever picked up the 2nd icebow unloads Storm at the same time as the 1st ele

Is the dps downtime for the thief to manage defiance and channel 2nd DF worth it, or simply doing one DF + 2xStorm will net you higher burst?

I have been seeing Rotation 1 happen more and more in “meta” pug runs as well as in more organized casual guild speedruns. My theory is that stripping defiance, picking up IB and channeling 2nd DF is a dps loss even when Tempest Defence’s 20% – better simply do one DF and 2x Storm (or more) while the boss is disabled by the 1st DF.

Are my suspicions valid or am I simply full of kittens and should let puggies do as they want?

Better make a video. That text formatting and spelling are cringe worthy.

Oh, guess I misunderstood the mechanic then. I thought that Korga summoned gorillas, not resurrect dead ones.

And by LoS I guess I didn’t exactly mean LoS but rather as in you can walk to the target location without needing to jump over obstacles/gates.

Could be than they simply added a LoS requirement to boss pet summon locations. Can you still bug Korga to prevent her gorilla pets summon when facing a wall?

Feedback reflect duration is exactly 8 sec and 6 sec with and without Temporal Enchanter. The animation is exactly 1 sec shorter than the duration of the reflect bubble, aka feedback keeps reflecting for 1 sec after its animation ends.

Luckily some of us run gear inspectors so your piece of bullkitten just won’t fly.

Stuck in past? Shattering IS the past.

Apr 24, 2013

Ever had a pug join your “zerks only” lfg while being 100% soldiers and then pull out the “why so strict with gear, it’s just a game, be an adult, ignore me and move along” card? Had that last night. The guy and his buddies almost hijacked my half completed instance when I asked him to either swap gear or leave. Had to take my own instance hostage to get the guy to comply…

Alpha after husk applies very predictable burns and you can give him might with the guns you use at husk. And nope, reading stats off an enemy returns all 0’s

The build most would recommend for PvE is this one:

• http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Mesmer_-_S/S_/F_/P

No greatsword here. If you must use GS then feel free to do so, just know that your DPS potential will drop by a huge margin.

Yep, I’ve lost my sense of humor as well. That grammar and my ocd just dont get along…

I must be the god of clowns, I use feathers in ALL my runs.

Equip 2 traits, hit few buttons, go afk for 44 seconds.

edit: video

Tried on my mes – 4 kills in 44.8 sec

Purple Miku.7032:

I’ll do the same thing with Korga if I can figure out his exact hp value, I just don’t know how to set up any DPS meters so I’m gonna have to ask somebody else to get it for me.

gw2dungeons has you covered – 1,497,440 hp

Remember, with nemesis “logic” doesn’t apply.

I wonder if I should challenge him to solo the champ from coe (hard to sustain in zerk) or even p1’s alpha (can’t mitigate his dmg, have to facetank or DODGE). XD

If you want to win an argument, fight in the same environment. Do something impressive in pug run and show them the proof. Presenting video of a perfectly executed encounter isn’t helping, nemesis doesn’t consider that a “valid” argument.

Telekinesis.8312:

lol.. then it absolutely concerns us “scrubs” as he mentioned :P

Which is why I was questioning if it really belongs to the Mesmer subforum, Dungeons subforum is the place for that discussion.

But since you already posted, I’ll give my opinion. His head is so up his !@# he can’t even see the light anymore. The valid points that he makes are valid, and are the same points us “elitists” make, there is no argument there yet he puts it off as if there is. The other claims and other pure %$# flinging against meta elitist is exactly why he is hated by the “elitists”.

To discuss which claims exactly are wrong, head over to the Dungeons subforum. This topic was discussed over and over in very detail over past years to the point that most of us are simply done arguing with him. The poor guy is so lost he is beyond hope.

Funny enough, pugs is ALL I have been running for past year, daily, both NA and EU, on my mesmer….

So… what does this have to do with mesmers?

Nothing at all.

Still playing mesmer in light of all the nerf bats to the head and bug galore in past 3 years… yeah, quite twisted indeed.

Enko.6123:

Yeah our timers are starting at the same time but by the end of the dungeon, there’s 1.5 second discrepancy.
I’ve checked it with multiple timers now as well.

Sometimes videos are encoded with variable framerate or even different framerate than file meta tells you. Things get even more hairy when you render a video to a different framerate than your source video…

Wethospu.6437:

Let’s pick CoE story.

The room with Evolved Destroyer is filled with inquest. You can only see this room through one window at start of the dungeon which isn’t even directly in the usual path.

After you complete the dungeon those inquest get replaced by destroyers.

Last time I tried inquest stay inquest, nothing changes.

in case anyone needs it, gw2dps is updated… now with configurable hotkeys.

I guess I’m the only one who actually uses burning speed for the evade, as much as I can to preserve that precious endurance. It’s the best for Alpha’s AoE’s <3

Why round it to an integer? Round it to 0.1 since I doubt anyone would make a record video with lower than 10 fps.

Also, there should be a meeting to discuss and vote on how to round. /s

Just a note about Alpha, he clears condis only in p1/p2. Condi clear occurs when he uses his fire attack / dragon tooth summon. In p3 he does not use that attack and therefore doesn’t clear condis.

I have Comcast, with 70ms pings in gw2. Their service is awesome.

Guess they must like my money (I pay a lot) lol.

Maybe some people just don’t see any value in easier but slightly slower runs.

Happens all the time, just like my yesterday’s Arah run. “zerks only blah blah speedrun” type lfg post yet the mes who made the lfg is 100% pvt. I asked why the heck is lfg asking for zerks only when he himself isn’t 3 times throughout the run but got silent treatment for each.

Yesterday I got in with gate in contested state. Maybe I’ll re-up the video on how to do it, I did find a somewhat easier way to do the jump, maybe that’s why I’m getting in pretty much every time.

fracture.9754:

Did they fix glitching into CoE when it’s contested? I wanted to do some dungeons after 2 months and it ports me back outside the gate when the popup for open explorable/path mode should happen. o.O

That was like…the only good thing about CoE.

Still works.

For interrupts, add Melandru from Arah p4 to the list. Thief stripping defiance with mes power blocking his Empower animation makes him a piece of cake to melee. Definitely one of the encounters where interrupts actually are rewarding.

Faction.4013:

I’m curious to know what your rotation is to achieve 30+ stacks of Bleeding. .

30 bleeds isn’t all that difficult to reach. Even with a simple 3 staff clone + your AA rotation you’ll be hitting 30’s quite often:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJKHS8DjLJU

The animation bubble during the spin are the boundaries for the reflect bubble.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Is-condi-Mesmer-viable-for-dungeons/

The HP values haven’t changed in a looooong time. The values are listed here: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Illusion#Health

PvE vs PvP/WvW

• Clone: 4,171 vs. 2,433
• Phantasm: 5,821 vs. 3,396
• Defender: 12,476 vs. 7,278

Just checked, the numbers are correct.