Guild Wars 2

its very annoying to fight afk turret engis

Some people say that anybody who says a class is overpowered is a scrub and needs to l2p. So I’m going to ask the question on the forums.

Apperently the enginner class is very balanced and not OP at all and I have a big L2P issue to kill this balanced class.

Can some1 tell me how to beat celestial engineer that has perma poison , perma burning , perma weakness and that drops the crate on me?

Help would be much apreciated. Oh also dodigng is not answer because the burning has no counter play at all and the weakness is on autoattack . Oh and the suply crate still immobilises and burns you even if you dodge it :S

So besides from rerolling to engineer is there any way to beat them as D/P thief? I hope so because I dont like playing an easy class if I’m really forced to join them in order to beat them……
Thank you for reading!

@atse: true but they could buff the thief somewhere else if they nerf trickery
@ Simon: Im not an amazing player and I never got killed by a hambow in 1v1. Unless the warrior is shouts bunker , thieves have the advantage in 1v1.

Kypriathe.4183:

If it’s an easy kill then the class is balanced? Seems legit.

An easy kill for me dosent mean an easy kill for others. I’m sure mesmers wreck warriors and engineers pretty hard but for us thieves , mesmer is a free kill.

After playing a lot of PvP and reaching minimum top 200 on both leaderboards( top 80 in solo Q) I noticed that every class doesn’t feel very balanced. Even the one I play which is thief is kinda overpowered in some situations.

I’ll start with my own class .

Thief- I really think the steal ability is overpowered when traited 30 in trickery. It has no cast time and deals too much damage on other glass cannons

Engineer- The passive burning damage that cannot be avoided is too strong ,it needs counter play and supply crate is imabalnced in spvp where you have to stand on point. And the turret build is too effective for the effort it requires. Huge problem in spvp , especially in solo Q.

Elementalist- I think protection is just too strong in general to give it away so easely. The standard Dagger/Dagger build has nearly perma protection. The duration needs to be reduced.

Mesmer- In my opinion they are balanced ( but maybe because I’m a thief , they are very easy kills for me)

Warrior- I think the warrior is balanced too but then again I think we thieves counter warriors fairly well so I might be biased.

Guardian- I really think the glass cannon meditation guardian has too much durability for the damage output. Maybe reducing the base healing of meditation would help.

Ranger- Honestly the only thing I hate about rangers is their downed state. They can interupt the stomp about 4 times and then self res. It is incredibly annoying.

Lastly Necro. Again the passive fears need to be toned down for more counter play.

That’s it folks!

Amonatory.2453:

Neither counter each other. It’s literally 50/50 if equal skill, and no SA. But if it’s SA, D/P has the advantage. Its completely up to timing the abilities, if the d/p is using HiS s/d can win if they daze it. Either way the weapon sets do not counter each other, it all depends on the player using it.

How is that? You mean an actual 1v1 or a tpvp match where the D/P can just gank from stealth. I think the S/D has to outplay the D/P that can just one shot from stealth.

Konoha.4613:

Lol, engineer is fine at the highest level. Which is where I believe the game should be balanced.

Last time I checked both NA and EU ToL 2 winners had 2 engis. If stacking engineers is balanced then I don’t know what to say.

Class stacking = imbalance in my opinion. Because obviously nobody will use 2 of the same class if its garbage. People will stack the overpowered one.

It says that I cannot mail gold to my friends because its a new account. I already have it for 2 weeks. I was wondering how long I have to wait to be able to mail gold and items to my friends.

So I usually play the D/P build 2-6-0-0-6 in PvP, but I wanted to try something new with S/D 2-0-0-6-6 . And I noticed that the damage is very low against tank builds. Is it normal or I’m playing it wrong?

For example it takes me usually 30 seconds to kill a Hambow warrior with D/P but with the S/D build it looks like it takes forever and against the D/D elementalist it looks like it deals no damage at all :S

Any tips? I really like S/D because the gameplay is faster but I can’t stand dealing no damage…

Anyway I think I will go back to D/P but I would really like to learn S/D in case it becomes "OP"’ again.

And just to clarify, I’m struggling against tank builds only with S/D build because anything squishy is very easy to kill. Especially mesmers/rangers . I feel like I have a massive advantage against squishies with S/D build but the opposite against tanks. They hit me hard while I deal nothing to them.

I think the OP simply means that ranger rapid fire does the same amount of damage than an entiere burst combo that requires many actions.

Im fine with that. Every game needs a class that is easy to play for new players.

Keksmuffin.1450:

glock.6590:

I noticed that with thieves aswell. Im playing the Dagger/pistol trickery build and my only condition removal is on 50 sec cooldown ( shadow step).

I would call that a sacrifice Trading your survivability for more damage . I would really like to have the trait shadow embrace in my build but I cant take it or I will lose damage.

Then don’t be that guy that plays d/p with withdraw? Or use 6/0/2/0/6 instead with cleanse in stealth? Srsly you chose to have no cleanse, don’t complain about it.

Same with mesmer, you could take nullfield or lyssa if condis would be that big of a problem, which nobody does because condis are rly not that troublesome if your guardian/ele/engi/whatever knows how to use his cooldowns for you.

I think the build you listed is very low damage I prefer 2/6/0/0/6. And withraw helps me alot against every class except engineers

I noticed that with thieves aswell. Im playing the Dagger/pistol trickery build and my only condition removal is on 50 sec cooldown ( shadow step).

I would call that a sacrifice Trading your survivability for more damage . I would really like to have the trait shadow embrace in my build but I cant take it or I will lose damage.

Im fairly new to PvP and I noticed that in solo and team arena there is at least 3 or 4 enginners per match. I was wondering what is so special about this profession or its some kind of bruiser class that dominates PvP?

Im just looking for opinions from more experinced players , I really want to understand why there is not much class diversity in spvp. ( solo and team arena).