Guild Wars 2

The lead has gone back and forth. Will it go back again? Or is JQ serious this time? Is Blackgate getting tired? Is SoR poised to break out? Who’s dog is that?

All of these questions and more will be ignored in this week’s episode of… The Something Something Stuff Words Collection!

GL all you battle hardened meanies.

Israel.7056:

It seems that as the weeks progress, these matchup threads become increasingly vitriolic and mean-spirited. I think it’s a shame because I don’t dislike either SoR or JQ as opponents.

That’s because the reasonable folks stop coming after it gets this bad.

pot.6805:

So this is like the 16th time the trolls predicted BG was dead and imploding and the 16th time they were wrong.

This is the 5th time BG has played possum and the 5th time some idiots fell for it.

With Easter and SAB, it’s the perfect time to push. I warned everyone but they didn’t listen. I’m hoping everyone gets bored with MarioKart before this gets way out of hand. BG must have some very very committed players, and disciplined too.

I’m going to stick my neck out here and predict a BG win. My gut tells me that with the interest in the ‘WvW Update’ waning, our numbers are going to drop this week. Doesn’t say much for the WvW update when 1990 can come in and be more interesting than a whole new WvW rank system.

That being said, I did have a lot of fun yesterday (Easter) fighting for my life against BG. I finally got a drop higher than yellow. Nothing special, but better than 6 months of nothing but junk!

The 70 player zergfest karma train will end over the next few days as all the nitwits get bored with the update and we get back to the regulars doing what we do. It’s already winding down. Even I stopped counting at rank 5 and don’t even look anymore.

I think folks weren’t being completely honest with themselves about the size of their groups. I know that culling, for me, made everything seem like a 20 v 20 when big groups collided. NOW, it’s like whoa… this isn’t right! WTF?

Now, we see all those hangers on and stragglers and it looks… disturbing. I will grant that the first night it was just stupid out of control zerg v zerg. I expected no less than that and was shocked at how angry some folks on JQ were and even logged out. Like they thought it would be anything different that night.

But now it’s back to havocs and 5 mans and split zergs and decent small, medium and large fights.

The biggest thing I notice now is how much more folks run away. It’s harder to run in when you can SEE all of those bads.

Grithan Soulforge.5726:

hex.3218:

You’re new here, aren’t you?

Hold on… Let me pull out my resume so we can compare forum wars experience.

That doesn’t look like a resume. I was told not to talk to people who do that.

Grithan Soulforge.5726:

hex.3218:

Do we always have to have someone making a snide comment about every single point, even the innocuous ones?

If you can’t handle it perhaps you should ragequit the forums broseph.

You’re new here, aren’t you?

Do we always have to have someone making a snide comment about every single point, even the innocuous ones?

Slayrix.5789:

I do find this funny that the patch has sort of united the servers and guilds associated to the unified reaction of WTF when confronted with the servers wide zerging black-hole where tactics are sort of put secondary and numbers as primary and as hard as the guilds try its hard to separate themselves away from that.

Dunno about that. Last night seemed pretty much back to normal to me. Lots of attack and defend, folks forming 5 mans to take yaks down, scout teams and fake outs… Just seemed like the day before never happened.

Maybe I was on at the right time on a good map?

Remember kids, calling someone a ‘forum warrior’ on a forum makes you… a forum warrior.

And yes I am a forum warrior for saying so. That’s not news, eh?

Well, I sure hope no guilds leave BG. I also hope BG comes back to life next week. I always always always have fun against BG because they do wacky stuff, especially with trebs.

I think I may have put this in an earlier post, but it has been absolutely hillarious this week because all these players that haven’t been on since October are on, and giving advice. Here’s a sample:

“Build the catas behind the door to take out their rams!”

“Use DOTs on the Supervisor.” ( you can add vuln/conditions etc to this list)

“How come I can’t get into X tower from the back no more?”

“How come we didn’t take their Orb?” (my favorite)

“I’ve never heard of you.” to our Glorious Commander

Darkjoy.3092:

VOLKON.1290:

Mohmohchan.4120:

that means, bg is gone with 2 major guilds + 1 medium size guild saying bbye.

What? Why would guilds be leaving Blackgate? That’s a good server, puts up one helluva fight… dang. Looks like JQ broke another one.

If they do its probably because they know now that fixing culling had no effect on making huge zerg ball skill lag fest anymore fun. Being first rewards nothing and coverage trumps all, so why go through it

Why go through it?

Because it’s FUN. AND they took first. That must have been fun. It’s just odd. They haven’t fought at all this week. I thought maybe a planned week off after last week’s push, but now guilds are leaving? It’s like they proved it’s possible to win and got depressed by it. Make no sense to me.

And throw places aside, it has been a lot of fun over the past 4 weeks. The best T 1 has ever been. It could stay that way. Trust me, JQ will come back down to earth. We’ve got folks playing this week who still think we should grab the Orbs. They will be gone in 2 weeks tops.

This is a weird time to bail out…

Too bad. I like BG (especially the OG BG). Like KnT, HB and I even like some of the additions they made. I have fun fighting BG. I hope it’s either a rumor or it’s the guild that I don’t like on their anyways…

I mean, we just had PRX go unofficial and I thought finally things would get really tense. (PRX still works their tails off BTW). Well, I’ve said it before…. come May, the landscape is going to look totally different around here anyways so, I guess whatever happens, as long as I can get a fight when I’m on, it’s okay.

That’s a good question. BG was doing so well and won last week. This week is JQ’s revenge, but it won’t last. Part of it is the new update too. By next week, BG could be winning it again. Doesn’t make any sense.

So, it WAS a back handed compliment.

kevinskyrider.3271:

It’s a BG-SoR thing, no conspiracy or anything. 13-1 deserves a congrats, right?

See, it’s things like ‘13 to 1’ that I don’t get. That means?

Someone want to explain the joke to me? I’m guessing the whole ‘SoR win’ thing is either sarcasm, parody, or a comment on some sort of conspiracy theory of SoR handing JQ the win. I’m just not sure which it is because it’s so stupid.

If it really is sincere congratulations on their second place finish, then I apologize.

I have a secret crush on Strike Force. Don’t tell anyone!

And while I’m here, could we all stop pretending we know what goes on on other servers? Seriously. It’s like me pretending to know what goes on in Iran. Not that BG or SoR are Iran. Maybe more like Argentina or or or um, like Brussels? Or Brussel Sprouts. Uhuh.

So, don’t be that guy. Talk about what you know, and what you know is your own server.

For instance, I am on JQ. And I know on JQ we cuttabeach if he act up.

Liquid.9672:

It’s all good JQ. Blackgate would have likely done the same if the roles were reversed. Hopefully this week’s reality check will quiet some or most of our vocal minority that feels the need to talk crap and taunt our opponents and we can work on getting back to business. Lesson to all .. don’t taunt and disrespect your opponent unless you’re willing to have a target placed on your back. What’s funny is, the players doing the gloating in LA probably put in a fraction of the effort of those of us who are out there every night trying to make good things happen.

Cheers to all on another fun match.

This is the case on all servers.

Do you also have the ones who come out of the woodwork saying “We suck at WvW” when you lose, even though they aren’t the ones busting their backs trying to win?

And you do realize there are people on other maps too. Not just EB. The reason those folks were at your keep is it was easy pickens, versus the hard fights on other maps. Some of us go for the hard fights, some for easy pickens. Doesn’t mean there’s this 2 v 1 conspiracy.

Right now, it might help for folks to keep a calm head and go to another map or come back when more of their server mates are on.

When I go to EB and two servers are assaulting my keep and only 40 of my players are there, I kinda know why the other two servers are there. They want the easy keep. Lots of points, not a hard target.

The idea that SoR and JQ NEEDED to team up or WANTED to team up is not rational. They wanted to fight each other for YOUR KEEP.

If you had your usual folks on, this wouldn’t happen. Keeps are usually hard to take but desired for world completion any time one is vulnerable, it’s going down. That’s not 2 v 1 that the nature of WvW.

Dredrum.2563:

Already pointed out above that post, that SoR and JQ were waving at eachother while all this was going on. If it was about the ppt they would be on other maps. It wasn’t about the ppt, it was about 160 vs 40. And they flaunted it with emotes to boot. And yet here I am amazed again how blind people can be.

And this has been going on all week?

Dredrum.2563:

JQ had 60+ SoR had 60+ BG ddin’t even have 40 ya perfect sense attack blue that at that time was 40ppt. Then you look at the map JQ was Green, SoR was Red, EBG was all Green/Red perfect sense for 160 players to go after 1 blue keep? Doesn’t matter, but to the players that come here and are saying there isn’t coop going really are amazing me.

Are you watching what’s going on outside of your keep? Are you sure JQ and SoR aren’t fighting everywhere else that you aren’t?

Keeps are worth poitns and both servers wanted YOURS, so the met up there to downgrade it to paper so they can slug it out for the right to hold it for a while.

Do this: Sneak out to the front lines where JQ and SoR meet. There’s lots of fighting. Or watch the green and red colors flip back and forth.

All you see is this 2 v 1 conspiracy.

All we see is your points for free because no one on BG is playing this week.

If DAoC was never previously released and went on the market today, even with updated graphics, it would be destroyed in player reviews, abandoned and made a punchline. Especially at $15 a month.

DAoC was good for what it was at the time. That does not mean it was the RvR paradise most people seem to make it out to be. Who here was there for launch? remember the hate threads? Even after the RvR community got established, man did everyone bash the game.

It’s only now that we are safely in the land of fond rememberance that we could ever think that DAoC was the Eden of large scale PvP.

Honestly GW2 and DAoC are so frigging different and so many levels that comparing them is pointless. It’s not a contest.

The only thing to be gained out of the DAoC discussion is ‘What did they do right?’ and emulate it in GW2, and ‘What did they do wrong?’ and eliminate that from GW2.

GW2 takes a beating from the DAoC community in the present, but I am 100% positive that 5 years from now, players will be saying the same things about GW2 as they do about DAoC. These will be ‘the good old days’ and whatever new game is out will be crap.

They paint a nice big target. The higher the title on an enemy, the more I want to kill that enemy.

Robot Chocken.7012:

AnTxJeTs.5186:

Now that culling is off.. JQ never fights BG in open field.. lmao

I have fought BG in open field many times this week. That being said. You do know towers and keeps exist to defend from right? Running in open field all day does not win in WvW as I am sure you can see at the moment

By ‘open field’ he means their 40 vs our 10 defending a tower. They want us to come out and fight fair. 10 of us against 40 of them is a mismatch if we have siege.

But in all seriousness, we can now see everything. Of course this means at some point you will see JQ running from BG. It happens. So does BG running from JQ.

It’s when folks make the leap to say “This happens all the time!” that problems start.

It’s pretty clear to all who actually play the game that all 3 servers will and do fight in the open field. If anyone has their doubts about this, then you’re not paying attention.

Personally, I don’t run from fights because death in this game is a joke. Just a tap on the wrist and a run back to the fight. More often than not I am rewarded for not running by seeing my enemies crushed before me or chasing them down to some darkened godforsaken hole in the middle of nowhere and giving them a time out. Sometimes the enemy gets the better of me. That’s where the fun is.

Most of us play for fun. Running away is not fun. Hiding is not fun. Fighting is fun. MOST of use from all 3 servers feel that way.

How come SoR is always killing me? I thought we had a truce?

I saw the SoR zerg coming and was like “Finally, reenforcements~!” and they killed me! WTF? THEN, they took our tower! It must have been a clerical error because we have a truce going on.

THEN, I hear “SoR 40 + heading to Bay.” Okay, now I’m pretty sure it’s not a paperwork mix up. These guys are really attacking us!

Did someone call off the secret agreement?

Or maybe is that 50 PPT for Balckgate because no one is playing on BG this week?

CuddleStrike.8215:

hex.3218:

What used to happen:

No enemies in sight due to culling. Then, just as they were about to come in range, they used Veil and had 8 seconds to roll up unseen. Then the lag of rendering hit. Success!

What happens now:

We see you at range well before you use veil. We see you lay down veil. We move out of the way. You ‘disappear’ for 4 seconds, but we know exactly where you were, are and are going. Failure.

Veil still works, but we can see you before you use veil now. I see you from very far away. Maybe you need to practice using 15 veils in a row so that we can’t see you before you veil again?

I’m fairly certain that all guilds need to adjust to these issues. This isn’t just one guild doing it.

So lets move on to another topic…. <3

Edit:

Score Update Attached for those interested! <3

I didn’t mention a guild… the use of ‘you’ was just a casual phrasing. You all know me. If I want to troll someone, I’ll quote them or name names. This was more an informational summary of the new meta.

What used to happen:

No enemies in sight due to culling. Then, just as they were about to come in range, they used Veil and had 8 seconds to roll up unseen. Then the lag of rendering hit. Success!

What happens now:

We see you at range well before you use veil. We see you lay down veil. We move out of the way. You ‘disappear’ for 4 seconds, but we know exactly where you were, are and are going. Failure.

Veil still works, but we can see you before you use veil now. I see you from very far away. Maybe you need to practice using 15 veils in a row so that we can’t see you before you veil again?

Hooray! No more queues! Wait… no more queues? How do I get in line for a full map???

I know that most of us were eager to see the end of Queues in WvW, but this isn’t what we meant!

I click the map I want, sorry map is full. I try another, map is full.

Not a queue, just says its full and I can’t even cue up for it. So, basically, I have t sit around clicking over and over again, hoping someone logs exactly a half second before I click so I can get their spot.

Awesome.

Is there an ETA on when queues will be back up?

Mif.3471:

Sad to see almost everyone considers Engineers to be useless

…and Jon Peters thinks the solution is buffing turrets /facepalm

Not useless. Less useful. It’s not the fault of the players who play them and enjoy them. The class just needs some attention.

Zynthetic.2954:

1. Elementalist
2. Guardian
3. Mesmer
4. Thief
5. Necro
6. Warrior

- Insert massive drop off in usefulness

7. Ranger
8. Engineer

Ranger > Engi because Barrage is a 1500 range (when traited) AoE and will hit things out of an ele’s Meteor range. Rangers also have access to lots of quickness and long duration stability, and can stomp easily in ZvZ.

Keep in mind that Plague Form’s blind, and the chill trait is borderline OP, and lots of necro marks can lockdown an area so mesmers can’t portalbomb you. Nothing like having 30 marks down between a breached wall and an objective.

I’m going to second this post, with one slight alteration.

The top 3 belong in one category: Very Useful.

The next three in a second category : Useful

The last two : Waiting for Anet to revamp.

It’s not a knock on any one class. WvW is just different and unforgiving. Things that are a minor annoyance in PvE cause death in WvW. I like Rangers and Engineers concept wise, but they don’t stack up well in WvW except as support classes.

That being said, you can play them in WvW and not really suffer that much. They’re just not as good as the other classes. I see literallt TONS of ranger pets running around in battles, so it’s not uncommon. I see lots of turrets too, so people do play them.

But if you want to show up and have the ‘Here I am!’ battle changing feeling, stick to the top 3. Elementalists have such great flexibility. Guards save people’s bacon with stability and boons. Mesmers are zerg busters. These are the corner stones of any WvW group.

One exception is the Necromancer. There are one or two secret builds out there that take a long time to master, but once you do… you can be in the top group, maybe even competing with the Ele for best. But those players are soooo rare and the build and playstyle so obscure and aquired taste that normal people like you and I won’t be able to handle it.

WHA???? Could it be?

Miiaah.5416:

hex.3218:

Sardonia.8196:

hex.3218:

I don’t know what all the complaining is about. Did BG win last week? Rejoice children! The long cold night of the JQ is OVER! Now that JQ has been beaten, they will implode. Just like HoD, ET, SoS and the other server with the guy that did ventriliquism on the island. The plane boss, the plane!

But seriously, kids, this week is not exactly a fair fight. BG spotted us a big lead resting up for the patch and the week that follows the patch. This week is almost a throw away. Patch mid week, come on. One set of rules half the week, another set of rules the second half.

Look on the very bright side of things. Dedicated players will not be worth MORE than zerglings. Servers like SoR will have a better chance to compete. BG and JQ have a lot of half-in half-out WvW players who won’t spend a lot of time getting ranked up. Smart servers will be able to create specialists for different situations, or even heroes of great reknown that can strike fear in the hearts of other players with their shiny tag alone!

When does the patch go live?

JQ last week pretty much did not care after Wednesday or so. I think they just got fed up with the exploits and seige capping and did not really play has hard as they are now. At least that is how I feel. Plus BG were playing some crazy long hours which cannot be sustained week in week out. JQ came out this week to prove a point and it has shown.

My point was that people make a big deal out of things that aren’t really that important. Heck, SoR could steal a week depending on what BG and JQ field for any given 7 day period.

Getting upset over coverage differences on a week where clearly BG is resting from their hard earned victory is silly. BG can put up a good fight when fully rested and ready to go. Last week proves it.

BG won. The only real reason they did is because they fought for it. Everything else is excuses.

That being said, if JQ wins this week, it’s because they fought for it. Everything else (coverage included) is excuses.

Wow, a reasonable post [screenshot]

Don’t let it get around too much. I have a reputation to uphold.

Finaldeath.1059:

FateOmega.9601:

Vinny.6924:

The patch comes out right when dailies reset. Every. Single. Time.

Yet people still ask this question.

Except it doesn’t. The fact that people are able to do 2 dailies on update days means that update happens some time after dailies reset abeit a short time.

It coming out before the daily reset would also result in people being able to do them twice.

Just to clarify for those who don’t understand why this is possible.

The daily reset is a two part event. The local application handles the information displayed, but the server handles the permissions to advance and complete. (Try setting your compter’s internal clock ahead 6 hours and see what happens… It’s not good. You have the wrong table of choices, so nothing advances! Happened to me).

When they patch, they reset the permissions, allowing you to redo your dailies, and then when the server side resets permissions at the assigned time, you then receive your next set of dailies which would have come anyways.

So, yes, you would in fact get to complete your dailies twice IF you had already completed them before the patch was applied AND the patch was applied before the reset on the server.

Translation: if they patch before the server resets permissions to advance and complete dailies, you will have a short window of time to complete an additional set of dailies after the patch.

Now…. when have they patched in the past?

Sardonia.8196:

hex.3218:

I don’t know what all the complaining is about. Did BG win last week? Rejoice children! The long cold night of the JQ is OVER! Now that JQ has been beaten, they will implode. Just like HoD, ET, SoS and the other server with the guy that did ventriliquism on the island. The plane boss, the plane!

But seriously, kids, this week is not exactly a fair fight. BG spotted us a big lead resting up for the patch and the week that follows the patch. This week is almost a throw away. Patch mid week, come on. One set of rules half the week, another set of rules the second half.

Look on the very bright side of things. Dedicated players will not be worth MORE than zerglings. Servers like SoR will have a better chance to compete. BG and JQ have a lot of half-in half-out WvW players who won’t spend a lot of time getting ranked up. Smart servers will be able to create specialists for different situations, or even heroes of great reknown that can strike fear in the hearts of other players with their shiny tag alone!

When does the patch go live?

JQ last week pretty much did not care after Wednesday or so. I think they just got fed up with the exploits and seige capping and did not really play has hard as they are now. At least that is how I feel. Plus BG were playing some crazy long hours which cannot be sustained week in week out. JQ came out this week to prove a point and it has shown.

My point was that people make a big deal out of things that aren’t really that important. Heck, SoR could steal a week depending on what BG and JQ field for any given 7 day period.

Getting upset over coverage differences on a week where clearly BG is resting from their hard earned victory is silly. BG can put up a good fight when fully rested and ready to go. Last week proves it.

BG won. The only real reason they did is because they fought for it. Everything else is excuses.

That being said, if JQ wins this week, it’s because they fought for it. Everything else (coverage included) is excuses.

Luvpie.8350:

hex.3218:

Here’s my advice. Eliminate any server that has guilds which tell you not to go to their rival server. It’s like reverse recruiting.

If you ask any of the guilds who have recently transferred to JQ, they will tell you that without a doubt the most transfer friendly server is JQ. We let guilds make their own hours, choose their own maps and run how they want to run.

We support our guilds and work as a team.

Above all, we have a lot of fun doing it. Frequently, I have to take breaks because I am laughing so hard.

If you’re more about people than about numbers and ratings and who caps who and who is this or that, come to JQ. We have real people, not canned!

lol own hours/choose maps etc cuz you have SOOO many people it doesn’t matter which map and when anyone queues to… lol

No. We’ve always done this. Even when we had huge gaps in coverage. That’s how we attracted the transfers we got. Ask Strike Force or PRX why they came to JQ.

I don’t know what all the complaining is about. Did BG win last week? Rejoice children! The long cold night of the JQ is OVER! Now that JQ has been beaten, they will implode. Just like HoD, ET, SoS and the other server with the guy that did ventriliquism on the island. The plane boss, the plane!

But seriously, kids, this week is not exactly a fair fight. BG spotted us a big lead resting up for the patch and the week that follows the patch. This week is almost a throw away. Patch mid week, come on. One set of rules half the week, another set of rules the second half.

Look on the very bright side of things. Dedicated players will not be worth MORE than zerglings. Servers like SoR will have a better chance to compete. BG and JQ have a lot of half-in half-out WvW players who won’t spend a lot of time getting ranked up. Smart servers will be able to create specialists for different situations, or even heroes of great reknown that can strike fear in the hearts of other players with their shiny tag alone!

When does the patch go live?

Here’s my advice. Eliminate any server that has guilds which tell you not to go to their rival server. It’s like reverse recruiting.

If you ask any of the guilds who have recently transferred to JQ, they will tell you that without a doubt the most transfer friendly server is JQ. We let guilds make their own hours, choose their own maps and run how they want to run.

We support our guilds and work as a team.

Above all, we have a lot of fun doing it. Frequently, I have to take breaks because I am laughing so hard.

If you’re more about people than about numbers and ratings and who caps who and who is this or that, come to JQ. We have real people, not canned!

If you make the maps bigger certain northern parts of the BLs would be all but unassailable to the invaders.

Is this real life?

Hi everyone. Had fun last night running with TIN on whatever map I was on (dunno, was hard to tell from the bottom of that bottle). Greatest guild ever. EVER.

But if one of your commanders or officers could contact me? There seems to be no one left in the guild today…

Portal ain’t the problem.

We’re getting a WvW patch. I thought it would take at least a year, or even waiting for the next expansion to get anything new for WvW. I’ll not be complaining lest they take it back.

DeWolfe.2174:

That’s assuming the same person is logged into the account. The gremlin was on for a lot of hours and was refreshing his siege. First it was spamming treb’s in EB keep. Then the next day the rams and arrow carts in JQ BL Garri and EB keep. It easily could have been more than one person doing this. I know it was more than one account doing the trebs.

Anyway, this has revealed that WvW balance is quite easily broken. At our level of play, once being siege capped, you are going to lose ground quickly. On two maps simultaneously and it’s a no win scenario. It’s just that simple.

This isn’t something a Dev can program around. They need real living breathing humans moderating the game. It’s the only solution that can fix this quickly.

My response to all this is, “play naked!!!” Well, at least my characters are :-)

If it’s more than one person doing this for extended hours, I fear for that town when they get to high school.

Vena.8436:

hex.3218:

First off, to clarify. Rams do not vanish NOW after 30 minutes. This was a suggested solution.

I know how rams currently work, this whole discussion is on hypotheticals I started. :p

hex.3218:

Not to the above quoted: This assumes the griefer can stay up 24 hours straight and not get caught refreshing, and can make it BACK to the rams while still building enough rams to max out. Building a ram by yourself takes time. Building close to 50 of them cannot be done in 1/2 hour. Resetting 50 of them cannot be done in a half hour. It’s a losing uphill 24 hour grind that eventually he couldn’t keep up.

I would imagine that the troll is building his rams, for instance, within garrison at first to siege cap it. He can easily tap every single one of the rams inside garrison while building more rams inside of garrison. If he moves to cap other places, say hills (and barring waypoints), then yes, he’ll eventually lose the rams in garrison. This is fine in that it prevents a troll for siege capping multiple places (as well as preventing post-log capping) but its not doing anything to stop him from siege capping a place… and if he does it correctly that place will fall (since it cannot be defended) and then simply moving to the next spot.

I’m just playing devil’s advocate here.

I know you know how they work. The suggestion was mine. And I was responding about that to the other poster (see the post before yours) anywas…

Okay, he’d still have to stay up 24 hours straight and this would be an incredibly difficult thing to get done once let alone twice, plus we could mass report him.

The reason he can get away with it is he can build it and never come back and we can’t catch him. This would at least make it way more trouble than it’s worth, impossible to maintain and easy to report.

Pvp.2758:

The rams will not disappear after 30min if it is inside your own keep. It will sit there until destroyed.

I didn’t say they did. This is a proposed solution.

Vena.8436:

gnarkiller.1862:

Yes the timer resets after use.

Then that won’t do much about the trolling until 30 min after the troll is logged, which is more than too much time to lose anything and everything if you cannot defend it. They’re just going to F-tap every ram as they drain more supply and build more siege.

First off, to clarify. Rams do not vanish NOW after 30 minutes. This was a suggested solution.

Now to the above quoted: This assumes the griefer can stay up 24 hours straight and not get caught refreshing, and can make it BACK to the rams while still building enough rams to max out. Building a ram by yourself takes time. Building close to 50 of them cannot be done in 1/2 hour. Resetting 50 of them cannot be done in a half hour. It’s a losing uphill 24 hour grind that eventually he couldn’t keep up.

Vena.8436:

There’s a lot said about “something needs to be done” about the siege trolling but, then I ask, what can actually be done aside from banning said individuals (and that’s never going to be quick because… well more venues for trolling). Any system implemented will be circumventable and I honestly can’t think of an “easy” solution or, hell, much of any solution.

Solotion: Rams despawn after 30 minutes. No one wants them after they use them legit anyways.

Wotah.2975:

hex.3218:

Xirin.8593:

Renny.6571:

hex.3218:

(it has to be a guy because women don’t do dumb things like this).

um. wat.

lmfao

They may do other dumb things, but this definitely has guy stupid stink all over it.

And he knows guy stupid stink!

It’s okay! he’s with me folks! Don’t ban him!

Fixeon.5076:

Honestly it doesn’t matter who’s tag they are supporting, or fake tag. And while I know this has to really kitten off JQ…. This complaining on the forums is just fueling the person doing it. You know that they’re reading these and just laughing it up at the havoc they are causing. Just report the person directly to Anet. I think we have fed the trolls enough. There is nothing us on SoR or BG can really do about it at this point.

Oh it’s being reported. And someone getting this much attention is going to have to brag to someone about it sooner or later.

I could care less how much he laughs. It’s going to be discussed. Something like that is going to draw posts. Whether to vent, to rage, to make excuses, to point fingers, to joke or to inform, people always post about severe forms of griefing.

Like I said before, if it happens that talking about it creates the high point of this guy’s life, then wonderful for him. I’d rather have a fool laugh at me than be the fool laughing. It’s probably some Beavis and Butthead clone and grandma’s house who is going to end up behind the counter of the self serve gas station for life (if he doesn’t get fired for ditching work to grief folks in video games).

If folks want to talk about it to sort it out, I think it’s fine. If creepy siege guy gets a rise out of it, that’s his therapist’s problem, not mine.

Xirin.8593:

Renny.6571:

hex.3218:

(it has to be a guy because women don’t do dumb things like this).

um. wat.

lmfao

They may do other dumb things, but this definitely has guy stupid stink all over it.

I don’t think anyone is blaming SoR, BG, CHOO or AGG for this guy’s action (it has to be a guy because women don’t do dumb things like this).

Most of us on JQ have nothing but respect for what BG did over the past 3 days. If anyone says any different, they aren’t really part of the community that I hear talking and see posting on our forums.

Win or lose, we get to do it all again next week and now we KNOW BG can push us. That’s going to make this fun as hello.