Guild Wars 2

The purpose is to fight many players all at once. I like it.

Great fights so far. Lots of interesting tactics by SoR.

But remember, the real match starts on Monday. Weekend leads are always misleading…. Enjoy it while you can.

Mizu.9387:

hex.3218:

Mizu.9387:

One of the MANY problems with most AoE, is there is no counter. I remember the first week when you tried to get through an enemy gate and the damage you took went up to about 40k from all the ground AoE. Projectiles can be countered, so can melee AoE, but ground targeted AoE you just have to suffer through.
Another issue is if they lifted the AoE cap, you could buff 30 people with retaliation. Now if even a single AoE spell hit those 30, that elementalist would recieve about 12000 damage. Zerg wide protection, aegis, healing from different water runes. No thanks.

Like I said before…. lift the AoE cap, but make it so that each player can only suffer damage from 1 AoE at a time, first in, first out. 5 Ele’s smapping you gets onlt 1 AoE in on you. However, those same 5 Ele’s can now hit an entire zerg for 1 AoE apiece, instead of only hitting 5 players.

The way it is now, 5 Ele’s drop AoEs on a group, ALL 5 have the chance to hit the SAME PLAYER for insta death. It’s not equitable.

Fair enough, but how would other forms of AoE work, such as defensive ground AoE and AoE shouts? Will you only be affected by one of those as well?
Will whirwind and whirling axe stack or can only one effect affect a target at any given time?
I understand that most defensive abilities grant boons and those kinda sort themselves out with the way they stack, but will several hostile AoEs give you all the conditions but only damage from one effect?

Good points. Boons should act like normal. No limit except where stacking generally affect duration and not amount (like quickness). Conditions should apply to all and each defender should receive each condition, but DoTs would have to limit to 1 stack until it wears off. Confusion and retaliation could be either one or the other.

I realize this would require a lot more work, but it should have been set up like this from the start. Or, instead of 1 AoE per defender, how about an AoE damage max per second equal to one max damage AoE attack (say 1000 or 2000) that way you’d have about 10 to 12 seconds to get your tail our or pop defensive skills etc, but still EVERYONE in the crowd taks SOME damage from being within an AoE, and it doesn’t just randomly hit 5.

What good is 1 to 2k damage? That’s a pretty decent hit and makes defenders take notice and have to act, because next second you might get hit again. Not to mention ST damage.

Meditrinas Faith.8320:

Not that I can point a specific post out but didn’t JQ actually claim to be stacking their server with transfers? Wasn’t that actually in multiple posts? Then you getting a bit crazy saying its propaganda? SoS gets flooded (literally) Aus players.. hope things dry out for you soon. Transfers come in on other servers. Its simple. Good game to all. When the winning server comes out and kittens all over the place its ugly. You had the chance to be graceful in your powerful win. You blew that class act. There is next week.

1. Jade Quarry
2. Sanctum of Rall
3. Sea of Sorrows

Bye bye BG.

Nobody has won yet. I know it’s almost a done deal, but how can we be gracious in a win that hasn’t happened? Who on JQ is being declasse about it? We’re just responding to folks disparaging us and those who transferred to us.

If and when we win, GG all sides and let’s see what next week brings. I think SoS and SoR or BG if they can make some hay will do just fine against us. Heck, BG did a lot better this week than anyone predicted. And the score SoS is putting up isn’t representative of what they are capable of.

Next week is going to be a street fight. The LEGITIMATE SoS players who don’t whine and make excuses have assured us that they are regrouping, replanning, testing, training, theory crafting and intend to give us hell next week.

The top 6 servers are filled with great guilds, players and digital warriors. The lower ranked servers have great guilds and players, just not enough players period. I spend hours in WvW and I see how tough certain guilds are and I know they will come out firing live bullets. This isn’t over and no one is bragging from our side.

awesomesauce.5980:

hex.3218:

Vodka.3958:

Jade Quarry has been in T1 for as long as I can remember, so I’m sure you’ve won plenty of matches. Careful though, the #1 server tends to implode the fastest over time compared to the lower ranking servers. Just like NSP, HoD, SBI, and apparently SoS seeing how kittenty they have been playing this week. It gets lonely at the top especially when the servers in your tier don’t offer much of a challenge.

I think we’ve placed first 3 times in T1.

I’m pretty sure we’ll have plenty of challenges.

We don’t implode because we don’t have a fluctuating Morale. We all enjoy WvW and each other, win or lose.

We’ve been in T1 this long because we love to play.

Thanks for the ‘advice’ but we’ll manage just fine.

Well, for people to abandon your server now they will literally have to pay. So being one of the strongest (if not the strongest) servers at the end of the free transfer cut off is a great luxury to have.

Most, if not all, servers are safe from imploding (or at least far more resilient) now that you can’t just walk away.

I can’t predict the future (especially with the unknown strength of some transferred servers and a full force SoS server – this week is not indicative of their strength in comparison to the new JQ, but I do expect JQ to be considerably stronger than SoS ever was regardless of what SoS does next week) but I can read the current score board and the posts about transfers that went to JQ at the end of the free transfers. I can also see the minimum of 1,000 gems to transfer NA servers (1,800 for a high population one – expect Kaineng to be this soon, there are currently no 500 gem servers). It’s possible we will see big migrations even with paid transfers, but it’s undeniable that JQ’s current position enjoys a privileged stability that no-one else was given prior to the 28th. I think we would still see SBI in tier one (or at least two) had WM been forced to either pay or stay.

Do you think SBI, or any other server which was destroyed by free transfers, loved WvW less than you? Almost all transfers are done for WvW reasons, everyone bandwagons does so to play WvW. Was JQ server loyalty ever tested by being in a low tier for an extended period of time? Loyalty is only tested when things go poorly for you for the foreseeable future, I don’t remember that ever happening to JQ. Nothing like SBI faced after WM left.

Maybe the servers will even out in a couple of months, but I think JQ won the lotto by being the last bandwagon server before the gates closed.

Oh, so suffering a beatdown for 9 straight weeks in T1 is easier to take than losing in T5? Pffft. So, because we never dropped below T2 even when we were losing population daily means we’re somehow having fun while it happens?

Many of us chose the server, not the rank including our new transfers. I know it’s hard for some folks who are emotionally wounded by low ranking to believe, but some of us pick who we play with based on who we like.

I chose Jade Quarry before I even bought the game. I got lucky. I met tons of very cool folks immediately. If we’d ended up in T5, I wouldn’t care. I got lucky. A lot of other people agreed that JQ has a pretty cool player base and philosophy on WvW. Do you think groups from SBI WANTED to come to JQ for POINTS??? They came despite their past leanings and desire to show us up BECAUSE we met with them and all of us got along so well, it fit.

In 5 months, all of this will mean nothing and the only thing holding a server together will be the bonds of friendship we create. Score be kitten Tier what? I don’t care. These are the folks I roll with and that’s that.

I know it’s hard to believe, but this isn’t about score.

1. It’s about making sure your with the community you like before having to pay to find a home.

2. It’s about beating SoS. We have won nothing and somehow we’re the stacked bandwagon server no matter what. If we win 9 weeks in a row, THEN call me. No one hated on SoS with their clear 2 to 1 advantage. Good on them for being excellent recruiters. Our turn now.

The rest is other people not on JQ saying how JQ should operate. Naw. We’re good. Take your advice and give it to your lower digestive track the hard way.

Mizu.9387:

One of the MANY problems with most AoE, is there is no counter. I remember the first week when you tried to get through an enemy gate and the damage you took went up to about 40k from all the ground AoE. Projectiles can be countered, so can melee AoE, but ground targeted AoE you just have to suffer through.
Another issue is if they lifted the AoE cap, you could buff 30 people with retaliation. Now if even a single AoE spell hit those 30, that elementalist would recieve about 12000 damage. Zerg wide protection, aegis, healing from different water runes. No thanks.

Like I said before…. lift the AoE cap, but make it so that each player can only suffer damage from 1 AoE at a time, first in, first out. 5 Ele’s smapping you gets onlt 1 AoE in on you. However, those same 5 Ele’s can now hit an entire zerg for 1 AoE apiece, instead of only hitting 5 players.

The way it is now, 5 Ele’s drop AoEs on a group, ALL 5 have the chance to hit the SAME PLAYER for insta death. It’s not equitable.

They had the answer to zergs, but double nerfed it.

Lift the AoE cap. Then, make it so each target can only be hit by 1 AoE at a time, first in first out method. Restore AoEs to their pre-patch damage.

It won’t end zergs but it will make them easier to farm badges from.

Essentially, Anet’s stand is “5 players shouldn’t be able to defeat 30”. I agree. And they can’t if that 30 is using legit tactics. Spreading out, laying down fields of fire. Etc.

BUT when those 30 players all run in a ball and roll 1 – 0 on their keyboard and shout “WIN!”, that’s cheese. Lift the AoE cap!

I can’t even tell who’s arguing what on here anymore.

All I know is there’s a fight for second going on right now and I want to be home to watch it unfold. Good luck SoS! You can do it!

Vodka.3958:

Jade Quarry has been in T1 for as long as I can remember, so I’m sure you’ve won plenty of matches. Careful though, the #1 server tends to implode the fastest over time compared to the lower ranking servers. Just like NSP, HoD, SBI, and apparently SoS seeing how kittenty they have been playing this week. It gets lonely at the top especially when the servers in your tier don’t offer much of a challenge.

I think we’ve placed first 3 times in T1.

I’m pretty sure we’ll have plenty of challenges.

We don’t implode because we don’t have a fluctuating Morale. We all enjoy WvW and each other, win or lose.

We’ve been in T1 this long because we love to play.

Thanks for the ‘advice’ but we’ll manage just fine.

Tiglie.5834:

Have fun zerging. What little playerbase you had trying to salvage something competitive out there other than mass green name auto attacking was just destroyed by your fix. Congrats, we told you so.

Uhhh we still have queues on weekdays. Nice try.

Azure Prower.8701:

Wotah.2975:

Vodka.3958:

ChocPudding.6128:

Vodka.3958:

Whichever server it is, I’m kitten sure they can both beat SoR any day of the week :P

I don’t think so. SoR is very different now. Their NA force is very scary. It is likely to be on par with JQ’s NA! Can’t wait and see

Doubt it. They only got such a high rating because they PvDoored an empty server for 2 weeks. Also that server wouldn’t be so empty if the majority didn’t merge into the winning team.

This is great! “The winning team”, thanks for that. We’ve one so very many over the weeks we’ve been in T1.

They’re talking about SoR.

They were implying that they merged with JQ the ‘winning team’.

Predictable. Game company fixes something: OMG WORST BROKED!!!

I predict an SoS comeback!

(next week)

Hey, September just called. They want their thread back.

sil.4160:

hex.3218:

Everyone had the same opportunity to recruit the guilds we got. Did SoS send guilds to BG or SoR in the interest of the game?

Neither did we.

Same rules for everyone. Should have done more and better recruiting instead of wasting time on here blaming other people’s success for your failures.

Your argument falls apart actually. RMA from SOS went to SOR

SoS told them to go to SoR in the interest of the game?

But anyways, culling bombs, portal bombs, veil bombs… don’t matter to me. It’s easy enough to counter if you pay attention. Plus, those who do it are only hurting themselves. They’ll never fit in on a 5 man team.

I can imagine a portal bomb acolyte joining a gank squad. They all jump the target. Portal gus just sits there.

“Hey, why didn’t you help us out?”

“I hit F then 1 though 0 and nothing happened!”

If you end up in a match with a giant server and you are a tiny server, contact the leading guilds on that server and organize some GvG stuff and activities to keep the smaller server interested. We’re not monsters!

Oh wait… fangs. kitten

I for one love zergs. My second favorite candy is dots.

Haven’t noticed a thing better or worse, except I see more enemies and less allies, like the December fix, and invis no longer hides you for 5 seconds after it’s supposed to wear off.

Which is what they promised this time around.

Is it a fix for culling?

No, but it’s the groundwork for a fix AND a fix for something commonly mislabeled as ‘culling’, which is stealth load time.

But I am killing stuff at the same rate and dying when I do dumb stuff at the same rate.

Some folks love to bash a game when they don’t play well. Pffft.

Tallis.5607:

The way I see it, explained by an example…

Next week’s tier, is fully based on the score of what the servers will have friday at reset, with the old system. I take the numbers from http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA as example)

T1 = JQ, SoR & SoS
T2 = BG, TC & FA
T3 = Kai, Mag, DB
T4 = SI, YB, CD
T5 = EB, IoJ, DR
…

All servers will have ‘Old ranking = 0’ in the first week.

Assume the following scores at the end of week 1.
T1 = JQ = 90k, SoR = 80k & SoS = 70k
T2 = BG = 51k, TC = 121k & FA = 71k
T3 = Kai = 92k, Mag = 82k & DB = 72k
T4 = SI = 103k, YB = 83k, CD = 63k
T5 = EB = 84k, IoJ = 94k, DR = 74k

Then week 2 will look like this
T1 = TC, SI & IoJ
T2 = EB, YB & Kai
T3 = JQ, Mag, DB
T4 = SoR, FA, CD
T5 = SoS, DR & BG.

So, the tiers in week 2 will be 100% based on the margin of victory in the first week. Because everyone’s ranking in the fiorst week is the same, there are no higher or lower ranked servers in your tier, so this factor is not taken into account.

Week 3 ups and downs will depend on the same as now, the margin of victory and the ranking of the serves in your tier compared to your own ranking.

This is the week were the old top servers are going to have to proof themselves.

And it will be pure, blind luck for the other servers if they will be pitted against a top-3 server or not in this week.

Result?
Lower servers will be tempted to do what SoR did last week and manipulate the rankings at the end of week 2. Just a few points up or down can make a huge difference: it will decide if you are in a tier with a top-3 server in the 3rd week or not. And the result in week 3 is very important, they will determine where your server will be in week 4 much, much more than the results determine rankking snow, due to the reset.

What this guy said. His rankings are just examples, but his maths and theory is spot une.

Jedbacca.6297:

In response to a queue time thing earlier about JQ, we really don’t have long queues if any still. I’ve had some weird bug with members though. Some get in within 5 minutes, others are queued for an hour while tons of ppl are getting in before them. It make sense no to Bacca of teh Jed…

Shut down the client and restart. If a queue goes past half an hour (except on Fridays and some Saturdays), it’s hosed and needs to reconnect to the log in server… er something. But I’ve done that. Send chat, “Hey anyone else getting queues on BLBL?” No? Close down restart. Finny!

tkalamba.2541:

rchu.8945:

Vilkata.4725:

Don’t forget they’re also changing the math for how ratings are calculated. So take Kaineng for example, a T8 server with a sudden influx of transfers dominated T8 for a few weeks before moving to T7, and then dominated each tier only moving up 1 per week.

The goal of the new math is to make a server like that move through the tiers much faster. I’ll keep my fingers crossed and hope that it works and things don’t take a whole month to stabilize.

ok, sure that might make sense for Kaineng, but what about winning servers in top tiers that have sustained victory records, those dont count for anything? It’s just not fair.

Considering the top tiers will start at the top, it’s entirely possible they may stay there, you will likely see the most volatility in T5-T2

Nope. It’s a complete reset. Those top 3 servers next week will be rated based on how they do against each other, creating a new and original Glicko rating. If they keep the fight close, ALL of their ratings will end up on the mid to low end, putting them in the lower half of the ranks, and into T4 or 5 or even LOWER.

T1 wins do not get more points than T8 wins that first week.

So, even MORE emphasis on margin of victory?

Pffft. Just fight it out on map and people will feel better!

Jeknar.6184:

hex.3218:

RESET RESET RESET!!!

Three weeks of sheer chaos as margin of victory will determine the placement in week 2!!!! Some awesomely lopsided match ups and finally a break from this repetitive madness!

Oh man oh man oh man.

I normally don’t advocate throwing a match, but how much fun would it be to take that first week off and get sent to LAST! hahahahaha…

Oh the possibilities. Oh the fun!

The horror! The horror!!!!

SoR must be really kitten .. Just when they got a pass to T1…

Naw, if they get to T1 at the end of this week, they start in T1 at reset. They don’t want that because if they lose by big numbers, they’ll be down in T8.

Can someone give me a 2 sentence summary of what this is about?

RESET RESET RESET!!!

Three weeks of sheer chaos as margin of victory will determine the placement in week 2!!!! Some awesomely lopsided match ups and finally a break from this repetitive madness!

Oh man oh man oh man.

I normally don’t advocate throwing a match, but how much fun would it be to take that first week off and get sent to LAST! hahahahaha…

Oh the possibilities. Oh the fun!

The horror! The horror!!!!

drwookie.6391:

So as I understand it a couple of things will occur:

1. Scores will reset at end of this week
2. Matchup next week will be decided by the rankings this week, before they are reset

So essentially the three tier 1 servers by rankings at the end of this week will still fight each other next week as if there was no reset. But FOLLOWING next week, ranks will start anew.

How will tier 1 be defined after next week? Will it be the three servers who win by the widest margin? That wouldn’t really be the three top servers, just the three servers with the widest margin between the, and their competition.

However, if the new rankings take into account previous tiers to decide score, then the rankings aren’t really going to be reset completely.

So are we to expect several weeks of the tiers being all weird? Tier 1 being made up of the three servers who were furthest from their competitors (but not necessarily the top three servers). How long do people think it will take for things to settle?

This is exactly my reading of it.

Top three margin of victory servers go directly to T1. So, the top server from T8 in theory could jump all the way to T1, 1st place.

If this is the case, it will take 3 weeks for things to resemble any reasonable estimation of which servers have the highest population and therefore should be fighting each other.

Week 1, everyone is equal.

Week 2, weird matchups. High pop servers destroy competition.

Week 3, it’s close to normal, but with a few ‘odd’ placements, but they show their stripes.

So, by week 4 we have mostly everything settled except some servers on the cusp of where they should be.

That’s how I read it, anyways, but would love clarification from an official source.

Everyone had the same opportunity to recruit the guilds we got. Did SoS send guilds to BG or SoR in the interest of the game?

Neither did we.

Same rules for everyone. Should have done more and better recruiting instead of wasting time on here blaming other people’s success for your failures.

Josh P.1296:

Azure Prower.8701:

Intigo.1653:

Rawnoodles.1398:

Score Update!

I think you need to make sure your guild logo is in that picture a few more times.

:D

This score update is brought to you by Empërium.

I chuckled.
On a side note JQ just received yet another guild. Is that the 20th now?

How is it that people know this when no one on JQ knows? I’ve seen nothing to indicate that.

Trying to convince folks not to attack your server with Glicko arguments is lame.

Attack us. I need more bags.

Porky.5021:

Numbers, coverage, holidays, 2v1, recruiting, PvE this, PvP that….all just fluff.

JQ is doing a great job, BG is doing extremely well for what supposed to be the weakling and number 1 is getting it’s kitten kicked right now. That is all.

Hey, thanks for joining my group earlier today on JQBL. You scared the pants off of the random other dude in my group. He was still confused when I logged off!

Folks, this guy is awesome. He says some weird stuff on here every now and then and I don’t always agree with him, but he made me freaking laugh out loud and that’s not easy to do! He’s def on my ‘not a tool’ list!

Cheers mate! Good to see some folks still like to have fun!

Calm Little Buddy

Monday is that way —→

Weekends aren’t results.

Weekend population isn’t coverage.

Wait until the carnival leaves before taking a census.

Hi everyone!

I hope we are all having fun and getting some good fights in. Shout out to BG on your awesome weekend so far!

SoS just keeps on rolling. You guys are the best!

JQ… I got nothing for you. Good job I guess.

Remember to bring all of your extra characters into WvW and get that karma while it lasts, peeps. I here that with the new changes, there will be a total karma shortage and we will all be waiting in line with our karma ration tickets for like 5 hours. Nixon lives!!!!

(no they are not changing karma)

Also, I’d like to thank all the folks on EB for not littering in the Jump Puzzle. Always remove the bodies you use! Let’s make it a green world! NO NO WAIT I MEAN BLUE! BLUE WORLD! KOSTNER! WATER WORLD! AAARRRG!!!

Seriously though, I got your Glolanta, SoS. Send hot babes if you want it back. And by hot babes I mean that chick from drama club with the 3 tier cake belly and the smoker’s cough. You know which one I mean, you scatter cats.

TA,

Han PuG.

DeadlyRush.1620:

Well congratulations to JQ for being the most stacked server in Tier 1. The oceanic advantage has now gone to you. Hope you all get number 1 ASAP. Good Luck.

Thank you. We’ve worked very hard recruiting with every single active member talking to every single guild on servers that are falling. Every rumor we hear of a guild looking to move, we have pounced on.

We didn’t get all of them, but we got the ones we really wanted. Victory is not even close to assured.

In speaking with some of our transfers, they have been shocked at how few WvW players we actually have relied on, so don’t believe the hype about JQ being stacked. We really were competing throwing out like 5 people and a ham sandwich the past 4 weeks. Truth be told, I think we had less WvW player than BG before the transfers. Last night was the first week night in ages that we had queues, and even then they were only minutes, not even half an hour.

And if you’re on SoS or BG feeling bad for yourself, don’t. It’s not nearly as big of a stack as the doom reporters are saying. If you don’t believe me, ask any of the folks who vacationed on JQ before the transfer.

Portal bombs are cheese tactics. Turtling is a cheese tactic. Cull bombing is beyond cheese tactic and implies the group has no actual game skill and must resort to using flawed rendering from the game engine in order to beat their opponent.

Portal Bombs and Turtles are weak, but actually use the skills in a character’s build to achieve an end.

Cull bombing would work with a bunch of level 10s mashing buttons if you have enough players.

While I may look down on Portals and Turtles, I can still look at them. I can’t even look down on a cull bomb because you can’t see it.

If you need to resort to using a broken rendering trick to win, you might want to examine why you even play the game.

If it happens in a fair fight unintended by either side, fine, but we all know the guilds that specialize in not having enough skill/guts to fight it out. Pin a medal on them for bravery.

I wasn’t wearing any siege!

Or more likely, they sent out 3 teams.

What those guys do with coordination and combo fields is amazing. They only had to give the rest of us one order, “Man siege.” Before I got to a cart, it was done and we were sweeping.

I realize this is a game, but that was one of the most amazing things I’ve seen. I cried. Hold me?

Wotah.2975:

hex.3218:

Ferris Bewler.9706:

Spent some time last night in EBG and what great fights we had, I wanted to give a shout out to RG from JQ, we at KnT have never faced you until last night, and holy cow you guys are spot on. I really just wish that culling issues can be dealt with. It sucks to have such good fights and i cant see half of you until its too late. Please Arena Net fix it!

Seriously though it was a blast, you got the better of us a few times, but we learned your tactics and started watching you and eventually like the 7th time we engaged RG we were able to break your line. Super tough and very well cordinated though guys. I can see why other guilds have fits with you. Hell we outnumbered you too for the most part. Much respect guys and looking forward to fighting you again.

I saw them jump in as SoS was about to take our keep on EB. From my first call out to them saving the day took all of 50 seconds. They are beastly. I was actually afraid of them and they couldn’t hit me!

Was it one of those times where you go, “AAAAahaaaaaaaaaaHHHHhhhh! Kittens, run!….Ooooh”?

It was more like “Stei! Stei! We’ve losts everything in EB and they’re in our keep!!!”

“RG is on the way.”

“It’s too late. It’s too late! It’s… nevermind. RG is here. Everything fine now.”

I literally saw them save the keep, opened my map to see where to head next, and they must have hit SoS so hard at our keep that the game just gave us Bravost, Langor and Danelion back out of respect.

Ferris Bewler.9706:

Spent some time last night in EBG and what great fights we had, I wanted to give a shout out to RG from JQ, we at KnT have never faced you until last night, and holy cow you guys are spot on. I really just wish that culling issues can be dealt with. It sucks to have such good fights and i cant see half of you until its too late. Please Arena Net fix it!

Seriously though it was a blast, you got the better of us a few times, but we learned your tactics and started watching you and eventually like the 7th time we engaged RG we were able to break your line. Super tough and very well cordinated though guys. I can see why other guilds have fits with you. Hell we outnumbered you too for the most part. Much respect guys and looking forward to fighting you again.

I saw them jump in as SoS was about to take our keep on EB. From my first call out to them saving the day took all of 50 seconds. They are beastly. I was actually afraid of them and they couldn’t hit me!

Calling folks on your own server militia implies that you are ‘regulars’ and they are just riff raff thrown together. Militias are necessary and being in one doesn’t make you any less of a person, but being called ‘militia’ in a game? I mean, come on.

How about players? Does that work?

The term was kinda popularized and added to gaming as a term for loosely controlled, unaffiliated players who are inconsistent in schedule. Generally meant as ‘Those who show up who are not in the guild command structure’.

Unfortunately, the way I hear the term applied and see it applied on forums usually implies ‘All those other useless sods who don’t listen to me or me mates.’

You may not mean it that way, but I can see how the term has taken on a sort of elitist, uppity, know it all tone to it. Remember kids, don’t be an elitist, uppity, know it all!

This is not the truth. There are zergs in T1. There are also small squads, solos, roamers, killers, contract teams, specialized build groups, dance parties, golem rushes, siege battles, underwater warfare, bribery, trickery, feints and counter attacks, three way battles…

In short everything.

Remember folks, you have a mind of your own. If you want to join us on T1, JQ would love to have you and I would love to personally show you how wrong this guy is.

I don’t feel bad for Blackgate. They’re a great server and fight hard as nails. If they get rolled due to a population gap, how does that in any way reflect on them? It’s not like they’ll ever drop below T2. Heck, they’ll be in T1 for another few weeks, and I bet the make a much better showing of it than people are assuming.

If you feel bad for Blackgate in any way shape or form, go log in right now and fight them. They’ll mash up your face, and then you won’t feel bad for them at all. They can handle this.

Wotah.2975:

hex.3218:

Wotah.2975:

hex.3218:

Well, if this is true then call me excited. Not that I don’t believe you, but I’m still going to temper my enthusiasm until I see an official announcement.

Psst. Look at our forums. You’re welcome.

Pst! Wasn’t up when I posted this!

lol

I had to ask to get info.

You weren’t looking hard enough. They posted a couple of messages before others posted about it.

Yeah, I put my dunce hat on when I looked at the “Introductions” thread and realized that news had been up for 5 hours… Haven’t been very focused today.

SF and PRX. Pretty good haul. It guarantees nothing, except for a kitten good fight!

JaredKincade.9761:

BG not good enough…well whenever we have a presence on all four maps, we take the lead. Reset night showed this, as does the EU/NA overlap. Our EU consistantly leads in PPT thanks to HB and others. Our NA currently has two large guilds (ICoa and KnT) and two smaller guids (EA and RK) and (I’m sure I’m missing some, if I forget you I apologize) we keep the fight hard, but we can’t be everyone at once. KnT has been holding EB and ICoa in BGBL. We win the fights we engage in, we defend our keeps when we are logged in. We just don’t have the third guild we need to take the fight to SoS borderlands during NA except on reset night.

One good medium to large guild in NA tips the balance. Thats eight more hours a day that BG cuts a PPT deficit of 100-150 points to even or slight lead against SoS. Thats enough to put us in second place combined with EUs lead in their timeslot.

I can’t speak a lot about Oceanic because I’m usually asleep, but you know we have some of the best Oceanic as well with Thai, Urge ND DS LLB the list goes on.

The irony is, I truly believe BG is one solid guild away from making Tier 1 a very very tight race.

But, it doesn’t bother me that one of the big guilds hasn’t come over. That’s fine. BG will continue to bring it until the last day every week. We’ve been in Tier 1, it wasn’t pretty. What did we do? We regrouped, trained up, recruited and now, we are back and much stronger when so many other tier 1 drops have continued their downward spiral. That tells you that BG has a core group of guilds that aren’t going anywhere, and this term in Tier 1, no matter how long it lasts, will be no different.

We may not bring fights to all maps 24/7 currently, but the ones we do, we bring it hard.

BG is solid, true enough. But let’s not get carried away. Just because you have presence on all four maps and win the PPT doesn’t mean anything. Maybe that’s a time when JQ and SoS don’t have much presence at all.

No disrepesct. Any guild would be happy on BG, and BG DOES BRING IT! But not because of PPT when it looks like your coverage is better.

I have said this in private, I love fighting BG because I know I have to be on my game. I can’t just walk into 3 of you alone and think I’ll mop up. Heck, I can’t even 1 v 1 and be guaranteed to win. Fight BG, you take your chances.

So, if any guilds are thinking of going there, great choice! I’m glad PRX came to JQ, but would have been okay with them landing on BG. Just not on SoS. Anywhere but SoS.

Wotah.2975:

hex.3218:

Well, if this is true then call me excited. Not that I don’t believe you, but I’m still going to temper my enthusiasm until I see an official announcement.

Psst. Look at our forums. You’re welcome.

Pst! Wasn’t up when I posted this!

lol

I had to ask to get info.

Ohai.8346:

they have already started the move. some of my friends in prx are on jq as we speak
apparently they said blackgate wasnt good enough to get them wins

Well, if this is true then call me excited. Not that I don’t believe you, but I’m still going to temper my enthusiasm until I see an official announcement.

Where in all of the internet does it say PRX is coming to JQ?

If PRX is coming to JQ, it’s news to me… Is this just one of those urban myths?

Player A thinks about 2 v 1.

Player B logs in to fight.

Be player B.

JQ is hands down the best server for WvW. We let players and guilds play their way, while maintaining structure and a long record of Tier 1 success. No other server has lasted this long in Tier 1. No other server has had the consistent WvW population that JQ has.

Others may be bigger, but no one is better. With the recent fall of SBI, the only true WvW server is JQ. We value our players and welcome new and returning players! Come and see! There’s still time for a one week look before lockdowns. No risk!

See you soon!