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1)The first problem im seeing here is that your focusing on SPvP when you say fighting on a point. This game should not be balanced around that mode. Also, Scrapper can range anywhere from Melee to Range, its not truly a melee elite spec when you still can benefit form using both ranged and melee options.
Your drones can offer help, not only on point, but in the outfield to support others. Melee range is where your tool belt skills shine. Mid range -> Long range is where your gyros would function best. When your upclose, your hammer acts as a support utility weapon in a way, the toolbelts as some decent utility options.
Another problem is that for some reaosn, you have all your gyros summoned at the same time in range. And they should be killed a bit easier up close. Reason for that is, they take up numbers when it comes to max hitboxes per attacks.
3) When i said mesmers clones could last a while. I meant, when i am using a staff mesmer in fights. My clones could stay out for periods of time unless im extremely pressured or shatter them myself. Imo, it would be the same for a few of the gyros.
Guessing this one was directed at me. When i said under the radar, i meant:
“I would not want the overreaction to cause them to over buff the gyros to a point where they are the focus where other classes are calling for nerfs, then causing the gyros them self to receive a over the top nerf and become unplayable.”
Saying no one paid attention to turrets is a bunch of load. Maybe no one paid attention to them in SPvP, but im sure they were used in WvW and even in PvE.
Used Pirate runes, works like a charm. Immobolize, Movement impares, stuns. All help with the issue of pathing onto a moving target. and yes, i have played ranger.
Here we go again with “Gyros are bad, but i have no experience using them”. The only one that probably needs to be looked into is Medic Gyro tbh because the math does not lie. Also, if your going with weapon kits, those have built in utilities so your not really limited to anything. You dont even have to run weapon kits to be a successful engineer.
I want to run this scenario on the bulwark gyro, say if it was “buffed”:
-Bulwark gyro recieves a hp buff to 30-50k.
-Roaming engineer slots on bulwark and dukes it out 1v1.
-For 15 of those seconds, half of the damage goes into the bulwark.
Result Engineer literally has 15 seconds of 50% Damage reduction, base.
—Now add a Elixir gun that can continuously spam weakness onto that foe while bulwark is up.
——-Now add protection ontop of Weakness and Bulwarks uptime
It starts to get a bit out of hand as you can see because the damage reduction becomes a bit to high, causing the engineer to literally become a tank.
Also with build diversity comes to the mode your trying to play. It seems like your describing SPvP in which you must take Alchemy to deal with condis atm. I agree that we must take this for SPvP, but we can also take 2 other trait lines depending on our build, we arent pigeon holed directly into 2 trait lines, and if you are using Elixir (C?) it clears all condis on you as well as its toolbelt. Add purging gyro to this and we would possibly have some pretty decent condi cleansing on our hands.
