Guild Wars 2

They have already said, they will be fixing the old dungeon rewards, in this patch

Would like to know aswell.

Funny because i was farming in frostgorge last night, and i had thought they had goofed on drop rate again, because after 3 hours i came out with 6 dyes.

When does the patch release?

kitai.7638:

the problem is not actually gonna be your build, solo you’ll do fine with just about any build, the problem comes when you are doing group/DE stuff, you wont be the only guy with bleeds and the other classes can stack em faster than you can, which should not be a problem except for the 25 bleed cap, and the fact that in end game DE there are so many glass cannon farming builds which will take down mobs so fast your flurry might not even finish casting and the mob is dead, rendering your bleeds almost useless as the mob wont last long enough.
That being said this is something i noticed in endgame play, through out levelling condition builds are fine and sometimes better since you dun need to stand there and with the warrior’s naturally long bleed ( 8 seconds base for the sword autoattack wtf????) you can do champs ez with your jump in bleed em jump out to recover and with multi mobs you can slice up a whole bunch of em then move on the next bunch and leave the first bunch to bleed to death.

as for pvp, usually condition builds are not as good due to the sheer amount of condition wipe available to classes and for W3, well same logic i think

What he said, my bleed warrior is on hold untill the bleed cap gets raised, right now it is worthless unless your plan on soloing everything including events.

You can take the runes out by salvaging,(the gear will be destroyed but you will have the rune).

can’t rmember where i read it, but the money they have made off the purchases off the game alone will pay for 3 years or so, plus all the money they are making off the black lion trading post, i mean i usually dump around 50 dollars a month alone, cant imagine what others do.

SonicTHI.3217:

Actually most people ran dungeons for the (no longer) max stat exotic gear.
There is now no point in that.

Since when? lol everybody ive ever ran with, just do it for the skins lol. since you can buy max stat gear for like a 1-2 gold lol, there very cheap.

There is no NEED to have the new gear lol, i play WvWvW all the time with pre 80’s, do i NEED an 80 for it to be affective? no lol

They won’t lol, people are wasting there breath, let them though, they think the game will “die” without them.

Bhelliom.5324:

If i new this was going to happen i wouldn’t have purchased the game or put any extra in gem purchases… No more money to A.Net from me. The only motivation i have now is to load up the game and look at my character i just spent all my gold getting T3 and full exotics

Are you saying because of new gear you no longer like the look of your character? lol, stat wise, the new gear won’t be needed as much as everybody thinks it wil lol. Only for the dungeon mostly

No reason not to do dungeons if you like the look of the skin, which alot of people do, and there will always be people running the older dungeons.

Nels the Cornwhisperer.8025:

Heh, one auto-attacking ranger = 8-13 stacks of bleed.

So, 30 players with bleeds, 2 hit the cap.

But, they can’t remove the cap, otherwise enemies would go down faster than they already do.

Isnt that the point? to show your actually doing damage? if anything increase health pools. i wouldnt mind a tad bit longer fight, if it means im doing my full damage potential.

I like to agree, 30 players with bleeds, 5 of them can hit cap……..all that wasted damage potential:(, would love to use my bleed warrior….but sadly there no reason to yet.

of course i will, how boring would it be just to gear my alts to exotic status…..and then be bored????, Now all actually have something to do after getting to 80, and getting full exotics.

What the heck anet lol, i agree the next elder dragon better be somewhere along the lines of that destructive, or we shall have problems.

You like burst damage? go with greatsword……you like sustained damage? go axe/axe, you like tanking per say? sword shield, you like condition based? sword/sword…….It is all how the way you play.

hopefully all events like orr but this time………NO RISEN:), that way people will actually be encourage to just roam and do all the events. The only reason people don’t do this in orr is BECAUSE of the risen, there just to painful to fight.

OMFG that was a kitten way SE, destroyed that world………can’t pick my jaw up off the ground……..

warmonkey.8013:

I’ll agree with this.

In fact I’ll go so far as to say this: If all new Ascended gear contains magic find, I’m fine with it. It’s for PvE, right? Keep magic find on there. The stat inflation would put Ascended as almost as good as Exotics, except with a ton of magic find. I can dig that.

Just adding a new tier of gear, however.. well, that’s one reason i got this game, so that would never happen, i don’t want to play that kind of game and so i won’t.

there is magic find there for a reason, and that reason im assuming is for the never ending path on the new dungeon., IT IS DUNGEON GEAR PEOPLE.

By getting exotics you will still be on even ground with people with the new gear, but for the new dungeon, you will need to get the new gear as a must, but outside of dungeon, there will hardly be an advantage, the advantage will be laughable.

Khallis.5708:

karma.8763:

Gear is only needed for the new dungeon when you get into the harder parts. /topic

and you don’t think this is just the tip of the iceberg? really? are some people on this forum that clueless. I mean they are already adding a new tier of gear within 3 month, so whats going to happen in the next 3 month? another tier of gear? “mythical” with some other stat to “gate” content?

if so shrug, it will actually give me reason to breath life back into my warrior

Leiloni.7951:

karma.8763:

people dont read lol, the gear will only be needed “in the new dungeon”

But it will be useful everywhere in game. It will be best in slot, as per ArenaNet’s own words. So if you do any other dungeon in Exotics, your gear is sub par and people with Ascended will tear through it faster than you can. If you hop into WvWvW and your opponent has Ascended gear, he’s going to perform better than you – kill your team faster, take down your forts faster, and be harder to kill. Imagine if a whole group of enemies in WvWvW are in Ascended and your team isn’t. If you go to Orr to do DE’s, the guys with Ascended gear are going to tag more mobs, get more drops/gold/karma, and survive longer.

See the pattern? It’s going to affect the entire rest of the game. Don’t be so naive to think it’s not a big deal.

It’s such a bad idea to design a game around the 1% that will be super hardcore that are going to eat through your content in a week and then get bored, every kitten time. Blizzard and Trion have already run into this problem – why does ANet feel the need to alienate their core playerbase for a few hardcore players that aren’t going to change their habits no matter what you do?

Your use of words " tearing through" is very much exaggerated.

Azarul.2064:

TBH because of all the hate that has been generated even before we know for sure what is going to happen I am all for the ascended gear. I am just upset to see so many go against Anet without 100% proof of whats happening.

it is only a handful of people lol

piitb.7635:

castlemanic.3198:

piitb.7635:

castlemanic.3198:

And for the rest of us unfortunate souls who have to put up with elitism from anyone with ascended gear?

It’s all forcing. We’re either forced to get the new gear or forced to not participate in content.

Great kitten job Anet.

lol, thank you

Ascended gear is for the top most difficulty.

You’ll be able to do all content but the highest level difficulty. And by the time you get to the highest difficulty, you will already have in your possession some ascended gear that allows you to survive said difficulty.

So could you stop whining about it?

I would, if it didnt affect the rest of the game, which any higher stats do, in case you didnt notice.

Higher stats immediately affect WvWvW and dungeons, if you don’t have the higher gear, you won’t be able to participate in either, preventing all players from enjoying all content.

New dungeon with increased difficulty as it progresses: thats fine.

New zone to do level80 stuff in, great

these two things don’t affect the rest of the game.

Increased stats affect all aspects of the game.

5 extra power and precision isn’t going to make or break any dungeon group. And if does, maybe you’re in the wrong group.

Azarul.2064:

My only concern is that it will make other dungeons obsolete.

They are already obsolete

Gear is only needed in the harder parts of the new dungeon.

people dont read lol, the gear will only be needed “in the new dungeon”

No need for it when exotics are overkill as it is.

piitb.7635:

tigirius.9014:

karma.8763:

nobody is forcing you to get the new gear, heck we dont even know very much about it. i highly doubt the game is gonna force you to grind for hours and hours for an extra 10 precision lol.

you are wrong.

1: if they give people what they are wanting beyond the dungeon only gear and keep that as the only ascended gear sets available (IE not craftable), specifically if they give people gearcheck and dps meters then yes people will start demanding fully geared people to run anything.

2: yes people will require you to do that for hours just to join their groups. We’ve seen it time and time again in other mmo’s or have people forgotten history entirely?

3: they haven’t addressed open world DR/MF issues so that people can actually farm mats yet but they added this right away didn’t they. Not to mention it’s completely the opposite of the type of game they advertised.

Anet No Thank You.

You can keep the dungeons as the only means of progression thing.

Ascended gear as of the patch is only relevant to Fractals of the Mists.

It will affect 0% of the rest of the game.

So much bellyache for so early in the morning.

Thank you

xeph.8410:

karma.8763:

No need for a check option when all you get is an extra +10 stats LOL.

Well then, do you have them or not? I need to be sure before I let you in my group. The Inspect function solves this handily.

Then, i would kindly pass on your elitest group(that wont have any harder time passing said dungeon with exotics):).

Gear is only needed for the new dungeon when you get into the harder parts. /topic

tigirius.9014:

karma.8763:

nobody is forcing you to get the new gear, heck we dont even know very much about it. i highly doubt the game is gonna force you to grind for hours and hours for an extra 10 precision lol.

you are wrong.

1: if they give people what they are wanting beyond the dungeon only gear and keep that as the only ascended gear sets available (IE not craftable), specifically if they give people gearcheck and dps meters then yes people will start demanding fully geared people to run anything.

2: yes people will require you to do that for hours just to join their groups. We’ve seen it time and time again in other mmo’s or have people forgotten history entirely?

3: they haven’t addressed open world DR/MF issues so that people can actually farm mats yet but they added this right away didn’t they. Not to mention it’s completely the opposite of the type of game they advertised.

The new gear is only needed for the harder parts of the new dungeon lol

Guitarzero.8316:

so a new dungeon
which is “endless”
give you a stat
to get through its harder versions (of areas you’ve done)
for a challenge

and you’re all mad??
i don’t get it….
in the beginning people would only take 80s in explore mode but that changed fairly quickly when everyone realized that didn’t matter
this will be the same until you reach crazy depths of the new dungeon

more to do = thumbs up from me

EXACTLY

castlemanic.3198:

And for the rest of us unfortunate souls who have to put up with elitism from anyone with ascended gear?

It’s all forcing. We’re either forced to get the new gear or forced to not participate in content.

Great kitten job Anet.

You will only be forced to get this gear for the new dungeon because of the dungeon mechanic:)

Revrak.8594:

this is a non argument, equivalent to “dont like it?, dont play it”.
you are required exotics for hardcore guild dungeon runs, you will require this new tier (and the next, and the next…) even if it gives +1 precision.

Since when? my guild dont do that, and we have no problems, when i pug this never happens. Not sure who your running with LOL.

No need for a check option when all you get is an extra +10 stats LOL.

Also forgot to mention…..did anybody say we HAD to grind for hours? the gear might come alot easier then you think:)

nobody is forcing you to get the new gear, heck we dont even know very much about it. i highly doubt the game is gonna force you to grind for hours and hours for an extra 10 precision lol.

It is limited to the dungeon, atleast thats how i read it.

You had to work for gear in the beginning……what is the difference after 80? you think there just gonna beable to throw more skins at us? LOL, no that wont keep the players happy, i want my character to feel like he is getting stronger…..that is what an mmo is about right? or just grinding all day to play dress up is for you?

nachtnebel.9168:

ArcTheFallen.7682:

I feel sorry for Anet. Their initial fanbase turn on them so easily.

Actually, if the new gear really has better stats than Arena Net turned on their fanbase not the other way round.

How? there was a gear treadmill from level 1-80…….what is the difference after 80? nobody said we were going to HAVE to grind dungeons for them.

drifter.8453:

I find the locked chest is a poor way of saying. We want the game to be free to play, and not a sub, but we will just dramaticly increase the locked chest drops so players will buy the keys at the gem store. Giving us money to release content.

I think they should just drop the gem store, and locked chest altogeather, and just make it a sub to play. So many times I would down a pretty hard boss, and expect something from the loot besides vendor trash, and it is a “Blank” locked chest.

Skip the middleman, Remove the Gem store, and add better loot to harder NPC’s.

This patch they are already putting better loot into dungeon chests.

Also forgot to mention, for all anybody knows, is the “new gear” could be very easy to obtain.

So funny hearing people say “omg im quitting, i refuse to play gear treadmills” BEFORE they even know wth is going on, there just going by what they THINK it sounds like…..LOL

From what it sounds like, is they are testing the grounds for a big reaction, even so it isnt really needed since your are downscaled to other areas.

its on the same day lost shores releases lol.

BIG FAT YES!!!!!!!! on the fishing, no mmo is safe without fishing…….look what happened to swtor :P, see anet? that is what happens when there is no fishing:).

If anything, i think it will give us a glimps of the elder dragon aka bubbles, and also introduce us to one of his lieutenants.

Darknass.1903:

Is there something wrong with underwater combat? Care to elaborate on what needs to be “updated”? Some detail would be helpful.

Oh i dont know…..maybe since a warrior can take on 3 enemys with just auto swing on land…….but underwater in the same circumstances he would get demolished…..