forum users are about 5% of gw2 community and the other 95% are probably looking forward to the new patch as i am
just saying
What you are seeing here though is from a lot of users who do not normally post in the forums and who are now only doing so because of recent developments (like me). So yes, previously all the whining about endgame, no progression grind, raiding came from your five percentile.
His point is, 2700 negative replies to a thread do not equal the majority of the community’s opinion. Using it as a reason to go, “Hey ANet…this is gonna cause the game to fail, and you’re gonna lose the majority of your playerbase! Just look at this thread of negative opinions!! Most people hate it!!” is not true in the slightest.
You just said it yourself – you signed up to this forum to complain…as do a lot of people. Positive opinions are seldom found in a forum compared to negative ones because people are A LOT more vocal about complaining than they are about praising…unfortunately.
I’m sure there will be significantly more posts than 2700. It’s early yet.
The number doesn’t matter. Also some of those responses are by the same people anyway. Whatever number it reaches, it will not represent the majority opinion, even if someone made a thread and it had 5000 positive responses, it still wouldn’t be enough to say “Actually, most people like the change, ’cause only 3000 people posted in the negative one!”.
As I mentioned in another thread, a lot of those opinions will be kneejerk reactions anyway. ANet, like any good developer today, will let it stay in the game for at least a couple of weeks before they consider making significant changes to the system. There are a lot of people that just hate change, regardless of what that change is and they kneejerk react to it. Letting players actually experience it for a couple of weeks gives them a more well-thought out opinion, and THAT is more valuable to ANet. If this is still a huge problem weeks down the line, then it wouldn’t surprise me if ANet change the way Ascended items work, or are obtained.
Most of us don’t need to “experience” it, we’ve already “experienced” it in previous MMO’s, which is why we came here, so we didn’t have to “experience” it anymore. It’s a great game, I love it, I wanna play more of it. I don’t want to play WoW, or a watered down version of WoW, I don’t want to play with people who want this to be WoW. Ascended items are unnecessary, their one and only use is to garner players who enjoy a gear grind. The majority of players came here to get away from the gear grind. A gimmick introduced in a dungeon to promote gear grind is weak at best and patronizing at worst. If that makes me a MMO snob who doesn’t like Johnny Gear Grind, then so be it.
Except you’ve experienced it in a different MMO and assume it’ll be exactly the same in this one. If it turns out to actually be a ‘gear grind’ (a word that people seem to like throwing around at the moment without knowing if getting these items will in fact even involve a grind) then I’ll completely agree with your complaint, and I would imagine ANet will, too. They’re going to make legendaries more ‘fun’ to obtain, after all. Point is, no-one knows if it is a grind without having experienced how ANet will do it.
Gear Grind isn’t composed of the fact of actual grinding an area or mobs or resources for gear. It’s composed of the carrot on the stick philosophy. Need item A to do activity B, Need item C from activity B to do activity D, so forth and so on. Or in PvP, need so much of stat A in order to be competitive. Again, Ascended items are an increased gear level you need in order to do an activity. If you do not have these items, then this activity will be harder, then eventually become impossible. Stated in Blog clearly. It is very clear to me, I do not need umpteen days to digest a clearly worded and written blog post. These items will then creep into other areas of the game due to their improved stats, such as WvW, normal dungeons. This is called Power Creep. This leads to Elitism, such as “Don’t have fully geared, kitted out Ascended, we don’t want you in Dungeon run/Guild/WvW que, etc” People advocate the " wait and see" approach. It’s unnecessary when you already have examples of the problem, and a plan laid out in an Official Blog Post.
forum users are about 5% of gw2 community and the other 95% are probably looking forward to the new patch as i am
What you are seeing here though is from a lot of users who do not normally post in the forums and who are now only doing so because of recent developments (like me). So yes, previously all the whining about endgame, no progression grind, raiding came from your five percentile.
His point is, 2700 negative replies to a thread do not equal the majority of the community’s opinion. Using it as a reason to go, “Hey ANet…this is gonna cause the game to fail, and you’re gonna lose the majority of your playerbase! Just look at this thread of negative opinions!! Most people hate it!!” is not true in the slightest.
You just said it yourself – you signed up to this forum to complain…as do a lot of people. Positive opinions are seldom found in a forum compared to negative ones because people are A LOT more vocal about complaining than they are about praising…unfortunately.
I’m sure there will be significantly more posts than 2700. It’s early yet.
The number doesn’t matter. Also some of those responses are by the same people anyway. Whatever number it reaches, it will not represent the majority opinion, even if someone made a thread and it had 5000 positive responses, it still wouldn’t be enough to say “Actually, most people like the change, ’cause only 3000 people posted in the negative one!”.
As I mentioned in another thread, a lot of those opinions will be kneejerk reactions anyway. ANet, like any good developer today, will let it stay in the game for at least a couple of weeks before they consider making significant changes to the system. There are a lot of people that just hate change, regardless of what that change is and they kneejerk react to it. Letting players actually experience it for a couple of weeks gives them a more well-thought out opinion, and THAT is more valuable to ANet. If this is still a huge problem weeks down the line, then it wouldn’t surprise me if ANet change the way Ascended items work, or are obtained.
Most of us don’t need to “experience” it, we’ve already “experienced” it in previous MMO’s, which is why we came here, so we didn’t have to “experience” it anymore. It’s a great game, I love it, I wanna play more of it. I don’t want to play WoW, or a watered down version of WoW, I don’t want to play with people who want this to be WoW. Ascended items are unnecessary, their one and only use is to garner players who enjoy a gear grind. The majority of players came here to get away from the gear grind. A gimmick introduced in a dungeon to promote gear grind is weak at best and patronizing at worst. If that makes me a MMO snob who doesn’t like Johnny Gear Grind, then so be it.
forum users are about 5% of gw2 community and the other 95% are probably looking forward to the new patch as i am
What you are seeing here though is from a lot of users who do not normally post in the forums and who are now only doing so because of recent developments (like me). So yes, previously all the whining about endgame, no progression grind, raiding came from your five percentile.
His point is, 2700 negative replies to a thread do not equal the majority of the community’s opinion. Using it as a reason to go, “Hey ANet…this is gonna cause the game to fail, and you’re gonna lose the majority of your playerbase! Just look at this thread of negative opinions!! Most people hate it!!” is not true in the slightest.
You just said it yourself – you signed up to this forum to complain…as do a lot of people. Positive opinions are seldom found in a forum compared to negative ones because people are A LOT more vocal about complaining than they are about praising…unfortunately.
I’m sure there will be significantly more posts than 2700. It’s early yet.
forum users are about 5% of gw2 community and the other 95% are probably looking forward to the new patch as i am
What you are seeing here though is from a lot of users who do not normally post in the forums and who are now only doing so because of recent developments (like me). So yes, previously all the whining about endgame, no progression grind, raiding came from your five percentile.