Good fights tonight in IOJ borderlands, especially to Avatar and their MASSIVE CONFUSION BOMBING holy cow. At one point I had to stand in the middle of a 20 man group and do absolutely nothing for a lengthy period of time while waiting for confusion to wear off and hoping I make it through. Good to see that there is still some good fights left to be had this match up.
Great fight, you guys defended garrison really well
I can’t speak for the whole server but I personally like having IoJ as an opponent. It’d just be a shame to lose you guys
Unfortunately it looks like Isle of Janthir is intentionally losing rating points in order to have an easier matchup in tier 4.
Have fun vs. Yak’s Bend and Maguuma IOJ I’m sure they’ll give you a very warm welcome.
And where are you getting your source, or are you just guessing?
I can vouch for the Oceanic timezone that we are in no way intentionally losing rating points and never will, sorry but too proud to do that., please stick to facts and if you have them then please do post them.
Really?
Lets move away from server X and server Y is better than or is more zergy than or is less hardcore…
Every server, will have hardcore guilds/players, casual guilds/players and every other kind of player, so I’m sure that video posted above could have been for any server including CD,FA or in this case IoJ, the only difference is that this person managed to get it on video. (I have a video of 3 of us killing 17 (confirmed kills) against SoS, does that make all of SoS a “un-hardcore strategy” server?
Of course not, thats just generalising…
After all generalisation is a distortion of reality
I think people are beginning to get bored of having to face the same server over and over again. I think in some cases right now, servers are only moving tiers, not because they are getting better, but because players are transferring servers.
Just look at how many servers have 0 evolution in the rankings! Anet need to find a way to balance it out, end free transfers and open free transfers to specific servers with a “reward” for doing so.
Not everyone, there is something gratifying in learning your opponents fighting styles and adapting, and then having them adapt to your new style and so forth. Having same matchups also allows your guild to build Rep, meaning you can start to play psychological warfare, where by getting a new opponent every week limits you in regards to advanced tactics.
What made games like Eve, WAR etc great is you learned your opponents, infact part of strategy was learning your opponents, knowing which ones had what weaknesses you could exploit.
Ontop of that you gain recognition from enemies, celebrations when you defeat a rather nasty guild you come up against etc.
Yes changing matchups would be good (only if all servers were equal) but having the same matchup over and over can be alot of fun as well, if you start getting into the identity side of combat
Hi, Kylia! Your confusion style is interesting :-P
Please add my WvW channel to first comment —> http://www.youtube.com/user/PhantCraft
(my style is toughness)
Added!
And ’Interesting" was exacly what I was going for
Very disappointed in CD.
Was in the jump puzzle. The path forward was blocked by 2 CD. I tried to challenge them to send one to fight me one on one.
Unfortunately I was simply too intimidating for them, and both came down to 2 v 1.
Fortunately I’m on my thief and thief’s never die so I just used shadow refuge to run out of combat and waypoint away.
For shame CD, for shame. Where’s your sense of fun?
Why didn’t you just stealth past them?
Also, I do apologize for the behavior of anybody who does that on my server, as I’m sure you do the same for people who do that on your server (with people on IoJ doing the same for theirs). We can’t control everybody (god have we tried), and you can understand why that is…they greedy for some PvP.
I saw somebody from FA doing the JP in our borderlands last night, and they were rather close to me. I just ignored them and did the JP. Had they attacked me though…fair game. Same thing with IoJ. As long as you don’t attack me in our borderlands, I won’t attack you. If I’m doing a JP in your borderlands though, and you see me running or bow towards you, know it means I’m not going to attack you. I think at this point bowing is the universal command to let the other server players know you come in peace.
Actually Bowing can also mean “duel?” so that might get tricky, if you bow and one of you is thinking I come in peace and one is thinking I’m about to put you in more than one piece.
Peace Vs Piece
Posted an update on the current healing bunker build (list it directly under the first one if you could, it needs the first video to stack on this one)
Perhaps post it in the first video’s comments (Trying to keep it to one name one link if possible )
Posted an update on the current healing bunker build (list it directly under the first one if you could, it needs the first video to stack on this one)
Perhaps post it in the first video’s comments (Trying to keep it to one name one link if possible )
+1 for current match up
Good battles,good opponents and good fun
Some awesome battles against FA tonight
o/
yeah had fun fighting vs avatar.confusion vs confusion!:-)))
There seems to be alot more warriors and guardians in your force than ususal!
Some awesome battles against FA tonight
o/
Hey that’s my confusion build works great solo, infact there are a good 16 videos on my channel of me running with that build solo, in 1vX I think my highest so far is 1v6.
Thhe challenge with a confusion build like mine is the level of macro you will need to do.
At a beginner level it’s dump everything and hope for the best, the good thing is most of the time you come out on top.
At an intermediate level your synergising dumps to maintain a high stack for prolonged periods, and at an advanced level it’s all about holding of and placing stacks before the enemy is about to do a button combo, lots of getting into their head and forcing their move
If your long for a challenging build that will giver you gratification to start with and as you grow it will open up more challenges, then try out the confusion build, the great thing is it also scales in party sizes
Right back at you *wink:
A video of over an hour siege of Greenbriar where FA with superior numbers could not break 15 or so IoJ’ers
(video is just under 20mins to include all the different attempts and counter tactics, enjoy! )
Amazing video!
I watched this right from beginning to end. I especially loved the portal from the back of the lords room. That probably gave them a pretty significant ‘oh kitten’ moment :P
I think you mentioned that you’re largely an oceanic guild which is too bad. I would love to see a video for RET vs. AVTR.
RET is in the american timezones
Weekend perhaps
Golem ‘rushes’ on IOJ can be anywhere from 5 minutes to 1 hour in the making. It depends on what the guilds and alliance are doing.
Here’s a short video of IOJ’s golem rush on Greenbriar in FA BL a couple of hours ago. You guys brought six golems (maybe 5, it’s hard to tell) and the NPC commander Siegerazor to Greenbriar and did about 1% damage to the gate.
I think these were the worst piloted golems I’ve ever seen. They spent more time spinning around trying to hit defenders than they did hitting the gate.
Right back at you *wink:
A video of over an hour siege of Greenbriar where FA with superior numbers could not break 15 or so IoJ’ers
(video is just under 20mins to include all the different attempts and counter tactics, enjoy! )
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Oh, that doesn’t seem right to me, considering how rapidly those things can destroy a base’s defenses, they shouldn’t be so easy to set up, I think. Like you shouldn’t be able to pull materials from one map to get a head start on another. I guess that’s my major design issue with WvW in this game, it seems very difficult to hold anything for any length of time, most sites take a lot of time and effort to upgrade or put down roots, but only minutes to collapse complete from a concentrated effort.
I don’t think that zergs should be able to function like a Tsunami, just sweeping across a map in under an hour and laying waste, but rather it should be a deliberate process, in which it’s very difficult to take location C without first securing and entrenching locations A and then B. Often that seems to be the way it works, but there are apparently some mechanics that allow for all that to collapse in a heap.
Do remember they would have to build these golems out in the open, as you cannot build them in spawn. So some strategic scouts watching spawn can easily pick up on this sort of army being created. Of course it requires scouts, welcome to Tier 1/2 tactics
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^^^ Don’t forget you can buy siege with wvw badges. 100 per golem. (so no gold needed )
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http://www.youtube.com/kyliad (has the build broken down in some of the videos)
Been running the build since Launch
Portal works with the glams, more fun is Veil working with the glams and how to achieve triple stacks when one walks across it (check out latest build video for that )
(though you will find my build goes into some other traits) hopefully this will give you some more ideas to go off.
Finally, don’t forget that confusion is halved in Spvp 
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Last week a video against FA, this week one for CD
Enjoy
@AVTR – We saw you guys on the road from Garrison to bay last night and I remembered you from the forum so we tried to get to you for a little 5v5
@KH+AVTR – Sorry about the invuln spot exploit near redvale. By that point we’d pretty much given up and were just trying to kill people. We won’t be doing it again in any organized sense.
We are looking forward to meeting you in the open battlefield
Picking on the weakest team Is the norm. For a commander, their players will only follow them so long as they are winning. If one side routinely kills your players, your commander will have to give up on that side, or face wreckless abandonment after a series of defeats There’s nobody to be admonished here. It’s just the way it’s always been for three sided games. As far back as DAoC (poor Hibernians)
The counter is quite simple. When you’re attacked by a team who has already given up fighting the other opponent, make sure you give them no ground. After that, abandonment of their commander is certain.
It may seem like common sense to most people just to pick on the winner, but you can’t play this game like its starcraft… There are other factors at play.
Also another standard is in a three way matchup 1 the 2nd place server cn become the primary target to the thinking – . 1st place trying to keep Second from getting first, and Third attacking the weaker of the two opponents to get from third to second.
and of course 1st can be hte main target if 2nd and 3rd want to take down the tall poppy
really depends on ppls thinking.
I can’t understand why some CD players still assume there is some alliance with FA and ask us to avoid FA.
Obviously, FA is hitting us everytime we hit IOJ. Also there are some spies in CD you can see some guild in both FA and CD and the spies enjoy watching their own server mate die. WAKE UP CD! THERE IS NO ALLIANCE WITH FA!Hehe, I have a video of us coming in over the top of CD to hit Bay FA, then pulling out andwatching CD go back in (while we resupply) only to come back in and then take it from both CD and FA.
(Might make an edit video for youtube, the fight itself is 30mins, so will look at fast forward editing for certain partsAlliance?? as if! so much more fun with three way battles
cannot see your argument here. I just said there is no alliance?
Just reinforcing your point
I can’t understand why some CD players still assume there is some alliance with FA and ask us to avoid FA.
Obviously, FA is hitting us everytime we hit IOJ. Also there are some spies in CD you can see some guild in both FA and CD and the spies enjoy watching their own server mate die. WAKE UP CD! THERE IS NO ALLIANCE WITH FA!
Hehe, I have a video of us coming in over the top of CD to hit Bay FA, then pulling out andwatching CD go back in (while we resupply) only to come back in and then take it from both CD and FA.
(Might make an edit video for youtube, the fight itself is 30mins, so will look at fast forward editing for certain parts
Alliance?? as if! so much more fun with three way battles
Finally this thread has some substance! Awesome videos. all around.
I’ve seen AVTR on the field a couple of times, so it’s nice to finally put a face to a name
I absolutely loved the Fort Aspenwood christmas song
(Speaking of which, that was some pretty mean FA presence on Christmas… silly CD and their silly family obligations. Should have been playing more GW2!)
Aye, so much better when your able to talk to an enemy over drinks later on about an epic fight, (win or loss)
AVTR roams in the Oceanic timeslot, so keep an eye out for us there, We have had some amazing encounters (wins and losses) with PRO, GODS and PRX from FA (CD we will come visit you more next week
I made this video for RET recruitment, but I thought i’d post it here as well as it was footage gathered since IoJ joined the tier so there’s some relevance there.
(Obviously one-sided as a recruitment video, but the fights are amazing to watch all the same.).
This should even it out