Course you can compare it to Eve.
Its like comparing your scores in a test to the top score of 100%. To achieve greatness, you should always aim for the top. Doesn’t mean any other game will get to that synergy level, but if you aim below the top you will never achieve greatness
(p.s. not an eve fanboy, just believe that they have true open world pvp down pat)
The incentive is the Adrenalin rush you get, the sweat that pours from your brow after a long heated battle at the top of a tower, the banter in Team Speak/Vent with your fellow WvW’ers, the stories of epic encounters that are retold again and again for the next 10 years (Yep we still remember some of the most epic fights in WvW in other games (PotBS, EvE, WAR, Planetside, etc)
Fighting against a human opponent, one that is unpredictable and capable of doing anything… he did what?? that makes no sense!!! …A computer would have never had done that!
Adapting to any situation, fighting unmeasurable odds, coming up with new ideas and tactics.
WvW is about the memories, challenges and friends you make along the way. The glory of battle against a human opponent is all the incentive I will ever need
p.s. Why jump out of a plane? I belive you get no physical reward for skydiving
Would anyone have a score update for a poor soul at work?
my 2c
Whats more important than class is the people you surround yourself as a Commander, Having 5-10 guild mates with the same guild tag around a commander makes that commander so much more powerfull and easier to follow. Commander buff is a rally point, its not based on the individuals class, as it is based on the tactics, positioning, smarts and support that the commander has. I’ve seen glass cannon commanders running in surrounded by guild mates. Having a central “ball” gives your friendlies a nice large footprint to rally to.
I love the quote “A chain is only as strong as its weakest link”
In GW2 – “A commander s only as strong as its weakest asset” where assests are more than just a class, its your tactics, humility, support structure, wisdom, and all other leadership skills along with having a strong core base of ‘right hand men/women’
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LOJ has lost for 3 weeks in a row.
, TC has won for 3 weeks in a row.
IoJ came second last week…..
Ok this might supprice you but in my opinion we supposed to be first in.
QFT.
Great work Osicat, you’ve inspired me to do one for my build as well!
Do the Forum mod’s even read this forum anymore?
Hi,
Firstly I am a big fan of the current confusion mechanics, it is unique enough and challenging enough to make it a fun mechanic to use. In reference to your points, I thought I would shed more light on how with the current mechanics you can elevate the concerns for improvements and its con’s
(shortened your statements due to length of post)
-Not very strong against basic mobs (lucky to get 1 tick given mob attack patterns, could be that I’m doing it wrong – let me know if you have different experiences)
Confusion against basic mobs is the true challenge, to make confusion viable against current mobs its about creating a consistent stack of confusion as opposed to a burst of confusion, this can be done by cycling F1 and F2 shatters along with Sceptre 1&2 mixed in with your glam skills, done correctly you should be able to maintain 3 stacks on a mob at all times, giving you roughly (with a good condition build) 1200 damage per mob hit, acting like a strong poison or avg burn.
-Even with domination duration extension and 33% confusion extension illusions trait, duration is still quite short
Adding in the veggie pizza (40% condition duration) makes a considerable difference, on top of that there is a post in the forums about condition increase theorycraft (taking into account runes) that cna easily increase your confusion duration for a much larger window.
-Possibly remove intensity stacking and opt for duration.
As with the duration con before, there are quite a few ways to increase duration, the disadvantage of this is that you would no longer want to stack so much into condition damage as it would not make that much of a difference (since you no longer get the multiplier which is what makes stacking condition damage viable) To better deal with this in the current state it comes down to learning the other classes and skills. With that learning you can better time your confusion (classic example – remove conditions guardian, timing and not bursting your confusion until the 3rd cleanse for that 6sec window of opportunity.)
The key with a confusion Mesmer is that we are a finesse combatant, we rely on timings, vision and manipulation of the fight to get the outcome we want
-Keep intensity stacking, buff the base duration slightly (maybe in PVE only, to make the window of high intensity confusion on mobs more forgiving)
PvE, the confusion mesmer’s downfall, the key here is that we have other sources of damage, we are not a one show pony, and as such can adapt and change our damage output with relative ease, if confusion was to work in pve your 100% correct, the longer duration would make it massively more viable, but confusion in PvE should be a supplemental damage source not a primary in our current rendition, which can make us all the more powerful if used as the secondary damage source.
-Have each new stack of confusion applied increase intensity and refresh duration of the total stacks applied.
Alot of this will come back to my previous replies, confusion damage is a manipulated combat method, this would turn it into another head mash damage source instead of one that required finesse to defeat the opponent. I always view the Mesmer as the rapier swordsman, who against a broadsword, scimitar, sabre etc, uses his/her quick wits, superior wisdom and intellect to win the day.
-Add confusion damage to channel skills (count each second as an action as opposed to just the execution of the skill)
You may need to elaborate on this one
-Add dodging as a confusable player action.
When I first read this, I was like that is great, but then had to break down the actual skill, dodge is designed to be an escape from damage. As soon as you start applying damage to an ability that is designed to stop damage it ruins the actual reason behind that ability. The confusion still remanins through the dodge like other condition damages (p.s. other condition damages if their tick is during the dodge, it will not do its damage)
TL:DR
Overall the biggest downfall (or best kept secret for us that love the confusion mesmer) is that it is not a standard build that is designed to just do damage. It is a build that requires alot of finesse, requires the ability to read your opponent, understand the classes you are up against, and best mind read your opponent. Setting up the behaviour of your enemy and then wantching them fall into your trap allows for one of the most rewarding class builds you can play. The downside is that alot of players want results without the planning (not implying this to anyone in particular) so the confusion build escapes the masses. This is the biggest pro to our class build, as it also has a positive effect that the majoirty of enemies do not understand the confusion mesmer as they do not go against one on a regular basis.
Added a new video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ3L1z9obAwBut, Kylia, please just link to my channel instead (http://www.youtube.com/user/Vologase) – you’ve missed it from the list.
Thanks for keeping this up to date chap, there are some fun videos in here.
Fixed
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work got crazy, will update this post to be more user friendly this weekend
Mesmer condition damage would be way more viable if shatter confusion lasted 5 seconds instead of 3.
Thats what Veggie Pizza is for
Osicat, where the confusion lies is in your title, your video and your explanations would have been better suited to a title similar to “How to be a Monster support Mesmer in a small group”
But your topic gives the impression that you are about to show us how the Mesmer itself is monster. (which the video does display your great team cohesion, but does not display very much Mesmer Specific Monstering)
Hope that clears up the confusion
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(p.s. wont let me edit the first post without posting first…? bug?)
17 stack confusion vs a warrior for example with his doing 5k: 5k+ 6k+ and 7k+ in under 2 seconds.
Again though, each to their own, the videos more to illustrate that there is potential over the ZERO reason (for some)
p.s. no d*** interpretation taken
p.p.s. only reason for my post was due to the comment " for condtion build"
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^^ Could you use mirror to get a heal every 15secs? Or Mantra heal it up for 10secs?
Theorycrafting
Another option is let the mesmer lead the guild group. Guaranteed to never have to play catchup
More seriously, yes we don’t have very much in regards to raw speed, that said our portal can outmatch any other class for point a-b speed.
And with Haloween you can always pop a few candycanes if you have fallen behind
But yes, no passive buffs for us. (my utility bar is full anyway, no room for a passive speed buff!)