Guild Wars 2

Hey guys
Just wondering, is any of you guys playing exclusively Stronghold during the League?
Is any of you playing just Stronghold at all?

I’m asking this because now that Stronghold is back, I’m playing it a lot more, mainly because there I can play my Warrior and feel somewhat useful. This is mainly because some of the cancerous builds that are meta in Conquest (cough Bunker Mesmer cough) aren’t that useful in this game mode. I still have to deal with some counters that can do good (DH and Revs mostly) with the Conquest builds but even then, a Meditrap is weaker in this mode with 4 traps (at least 4 traps is what I mostly face in Conquest, I just use 3 top) than it is iin conquest, since once triggered I don’t have to stay in any stop to prevent capture of a point. This same point goes for the Bunker Mesmers, Staff Eles, Druids?…

I will still be playing Conquest, but I guess when playing Warrior I’ll stick with Stronghold only

Really like the suggestions, but I think I would still prefer Fast Hands baseline over those
I could move from Discipline and make much more builds. Condi Warrior for example, gains almost nothing with this line but is still forced to go with it because of that trait alone. Burst Warrior would also be great with Strength Defence and Berserker IMO

Roku.3792:

“E$port” with nine classes with dozens of builds to choose from each

Only four classes are viable.

On NA is just 3!

In the process I’ve had so far I lost 2 games and won 1 pip on each. I’m Sapphire T4 btw (I don’t remember when those games happened, but this bug really needs to get fixed)

Quality PvP
Really I would be more excited watching some solo q’s something actually happens on those games

Watching now Never Lucky vs Team PZ

First 5 mins were 0-0
Quality PvP!!

(Don’t throw a balance patch ANet, meta is so balanced that ppl can’t actually kill each other)

I disagree
My experience in Sapphire has been the worst of all season. I’m stuck on T3 since friday, with still 0 pips, around 30 to 40 games done

infantrydiv.1620:

It’s not really true that getting a team will help you win games at all. My win percentage in leagues so far is higher when I’m duoing or solo qing than playing with 4 or 5.

As for ranking up in leagues, I’m not sure why the entire community has decided that they deserve to keep progressing regardless of skill level. To me it seems like everyone should reach a plateau at some point. I’m not saying you are bad, but there is a possibility that the current system has decided to weigh your league ranking in a way that you are now being put against higher skill players and thus need to adapt or improve. There’s also the possibility that you’ve just had a really unlucky string of games, and you’ll continue advancing normally if you stick with it.

I agree, and I never aimed for Legendary, and if this continues maybe I get lucky and get to Ruby, but most likely will not go more than that, specially since at ruby you can lose tier too (if that was the case on Sapphire, this weekend I would have gotten to 0 pips on tier 1)

The problem cannot be on the classes only, I’ve seen Thiefs on Diamond. Maybe I’m not as skilled as I thought or was just bad luck. Let’s see how this week goes I guess

Scrapper I haven’t tried, but I sure will, Engi is the class I have closest to get the title of all the others (yet is pretty, far, but from the ones I usually don’t play I have 37 wins in rankeds so..), maybe this is a good time to go for it

Kharr.5746:

If you’re playing solo, you have to play when everyone isn’t grouping (i.e., during the week). Weekends are basically all 5-person premades in the higher brackets.

Mainly solo, I don’t knwo personally ppl that play these game, and most of my guild mates are PvErs (national guilds meh)
Play PvP for a while, found some friends a long the way but the brakes I did made me lost contact of most of them

killahmayne.9518:

Too many to name lol.

But honestly Thick Skin is pretty bad. And Powerful Synergy has got to be the worst grandmaster trait in the game.

True
I would use that trait problaby in a ShoutBow build if it was Master or even Minor. It really doesn’t make much of a difference since I’m already stuck to the line anyway

Sorry if I seem rude, but I really liked an answer about these.
Haven’t done any roaming since HoT, before HoT I used to use Lemongrass, but since now it only give 20% reduction I don’t know if they are really optimal. Thinking about Plate of Truffle Steak with Furious Sharpening Stones. What do you think?

Life steal food seems like an option too but I heard they got nerfed

mPascoal.4258:

Hum nice video, but I would still prefer Strength/Hoelbrak

What food/potions did you use?

Sykper.6583:

Been on and off with SPvP, floating between Engi and Warrior competitively.

Decided to try out a build recommended by a solid source, won the last 10 pips for Emerald to reach Sapphire tonight with it on my Warrior.

Honestly, Durability Runes are way too good.

Mind to share? I really miss my Warrior for PvP

Hey guys
I think I need help
Before I start my Epic story, I know I’m just a average player, but this weekend thing kinda got out of hand.
I started this league playing Guardian/DH and Warrior. After realising Warrior is really kitten up I stayed with Guardian/DH and been doing well.
This past week I got to Sapphire and was really happy. 1st Tier no problem, 2nd same, but now I’m on hte 3rd and things are not well. I’ve done problably 40 games since Friday night and I’m still with 0 pips on the 3rd Tier! Maximum I’ve got was 3. I just don’t know what is happening. I noticed some really bad teams, I also got played bad in some games but nothing major.

My dilema now is do I stick with Guardian or just give up and start playing the Ranger or Mesmers that everyone loves now. I really don’t want because are classes that I usually get bored pretty fast. The 3 classes that I played the most allways are literely the ones in the worst positions (Warrior, Thief and Guardian that is in a average place, but I’m starting to get a lot of ppl that know how to counter me, like I expected)

Maybe I’m not as skillful as I thought and should leave PvP?
What do you guys think I should do?

I did my Guardian 3 years ago because of the LBow and how OP it was!

Hum nice video, but I would still prefer Strength/Hoelbrak

What food/potions did you use?

Warlord.9074:

well. You gain might when you enter berserk mode if it is by using headbutt then breaking the stun with F2 it’s a long might like 12 seconds. , and you gain stability and might when you break a stun. You gain 2 might when you swap weapons and you gain the might on hit from the rune. basically you can have like 5-10 might I know its little but there isn’t much better rune.

You dont take dogged march with this build the added -20% condi duration helps you.

This rune is a power based rune also, so it helps you hit harder.

I know the point of the Rune, but usually -20% don’t make much, it’s either the rune and the trait or none, because if it is for the might I may as well try Strength and maintain my might longer and hit harder in the process.

-20% condi duration barely makes a thing…, sad but true

Warlord.9074:

Try this build. http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAR3enMdA1dgVhAehAElilqATpH04yBIFgGQA490mantA-TpBHABaXGggDCAAHBgBuAAB8AAKZ/BA

Okay I sure will
One question, why Hoelbrak runes? Won’t the might stacking be a lot less significant without GS trait?

You can pop 6 secs unblockables every 25 secs, it isn’t much when you have at least one of each of those classes in most comps… A lot of times more than one
I know that I’m not hte best n Warrior but I allways managed well, this is the first meta I’ve been strugling with, and I’m not the only one

Warlord.9074:

I started 4 days ago, and I’m halfway through sapphire solo q with a warrior. I think most people are just bad, and it isn’t targeted at warriors but just everyone in general. They need a easy class to carry them and can’t play well enough to carry on a warrior.

Impressive, but I have to disgree.
I’m half-way through sapphire too, and till now, only lost one game that the enemy team had a Warrior. I most been playing with DH and now Rev, and I felt it too. Team fights where there is more than 1 DH are impossible, you cannot maintain any stability to attack, then come the blinds and blocks…

I’ve played some games with Warrior, and got the archivements of the League with him, but gotta say it’s painful to watch, I felt carried every single win

Loading.4503:

Awwww, you guys were suppose to just say “nice build”

I was hoping this thread would hit 100 replies with just “nice build”

Nice build
I’m not going to use it, but nice anyway

Doon.2364:

mPascoal.4258:

This wouldn’t make it viable, it would make them OP
Sure they are not in the ESL, but a lot of PvPers in this game are in lower tier, and DH there eats most of players

Not true anymore. A lot of lower tiers are picking up the metas themselves. I see a lot of mesmers, rev, reapers, tempest nowadays. I don’t think those buffs will make them OP just helps them against the crazy strong metas we have now.

Yeah, they get picked because they are meta, doesn’t mean that they will play them well
I’m Emerald now, I’m not sure how to classify my level of skill, but I still don’t have any problem vs mesmers, eles and revs. True that I don’t have much time to play, and from future plans I don’t see myself going further than Saphire (which makes me sad, but time doesn’t expand) but so far I’m not having problems with those classes like the top players that use DH.

This meta is kinda boring, everyone is bunker (I have never seen Mesmers being burkers, allways Zerkers and now out of nowhere they are the best bunkers you can have… WTF)

This wouldn’t make it viable, it would make them OP
Sure they are not in the ESL, but a lot of PvPers in this game are in lower tier, and DH there eats most of players

We are hopeless
I’m trying but in Ranked is getting impossible to play Warrior for me, and I only have found sucess in scaling up with my DH

I use Air/Fire for LB and Air/Energy for GS or Sw/F, but mostly I play with GS

air and fire …

Berserker is love, Berserker is LIFE!

The Not so Evil Overlord.6305:

I absolutely intend to take my Warrior into ranked arena. I always have in the past, and I have no intention of stopping. Will I play Warrior exclusively? No. But that’s because I have fun with my Necro’s build. I have fun with my Engi’s build. I have fun with my Guard’s build. And I want to get better with my Mesmer. But I will mostly play my Warrior? Absolutely. It’s been my main since the beginning, and I want to continue to get better with it.
There’s also a case of professional pride. Some people upon seeing some of the advantages other classes have over Warriors, shift over to other classes, and are just frustrated that their Warrior isn’t as good. Me? I just take the route of “Okay, I have the shorter end of the stick here. Now excuse me while I still win with this.”
Is it possible I’ll lose more than I’ll win? It’s definitely possible. Will that stop me from learning from my defeats? Will that stop me from playing my favorite class, at the most competitive level that I can manage? Absolutely not.

Love this! I like your spirit

Hey guys
For the PvPers, will any of you be brave enough to compete on the League with Warrior?
I’m personally not sure yet, because it is really risky, but is one of my favourite classes.

I’m going with either Warrior or DragonHunter, I can go with both but I’m actually going to try to go with one class only. It will be a fun challenge

So anyone crazy enough to do it?

Serophous.9085:

I wouldn’t be surprised if they are using Riot’s strategy in nerfing something that it becomes so unplayable, that trashing the class and rebuilding it is the only way to fix it.

Oh wait, already at that point…

Yeah you are a bit late for that, that was a few months ago

I wonder how long will we have to cry to get Fast Hands baseline. At this point, after 3 years, I think it’s pretty obvious all Warriors only take Discipline because of it…
I only ask for this for now, the class needs more changes but if they would day choose one change for yesterday and we will do it, this is the one!!

One of the points I guess you hav on your favor is that, since you have a bit more sustain, you sustain more on the fight and so you end up doing more damage. You have more damage over time because you stay more time, but less burst

I will try that for sure, but I still feel like ANet wanted Berserker to do so much that they ended up with a line that does nothing. In the current meta is prefered a line that you know what is for (on Warrior Defence and Strength for example that you know that they are for sustain and damage, but you have different way to get that damage), than a line that want to do all, which is what Berserker is. In the same line they wanted to add direct damage boosts, condi damage and some sustain and ended up with none, because you end up with better choices for that in different lines.

I also play DH and don’t feel that. The DH line is mainly for damage, and fits really with in the Medi Guard spec because, aside of Valor, the Medi Guard was allways versitile. In the Medi Guard you could take Zeal as well Radiance for damage and now DH, but you could go other ways too and still do well, Valor was/is the only needed line because is the line that boosts Meditations

Allways Angry sure adds damage to Hammer, but don’t forget that the Strength line also give you 10% more damage when Endurance is not full (helps Hammer), and then gives you 20% more damage with Berserker’s Power (which helps Hammer too). Not to mention the might stacks that yo gain on GS will be there when you swap to Hammer.

Not to mention that you are problably better with other weapon set, such has Sw/Sh instead of GS if you are not going Strength, because GS damage becomes pretty obsulete without the Strength line

But you can confirm with more testing sure, and you do well on trying new things

Shepherd.5839:

Well take this with a grain of salt since I only have 43 games on warrior (compared to 1050+ on guardian lol) but I’ve actually been having a fair amount of success with Warrior as of late.

I saw that GS / Hammer warrior had made it to great on metabattle so I gave it a try and found it to perform decent though I agree it didn’t necessarily stack up to the meta builds.

But on a whim, since no one seemed to be using it, I swapped out strength for berserker and I’ve had some pretty good results. For one you can use the berserk to break stun, then the heal during berserk gives you a fair bit more sustain without sacrificing damage. You can pull off some pretty crazy good head butt, stun break with berserk and fire off a quickness powered HB into the primal burst…. yeah you can hit the target for like 20k in 4 seconds or less. (thanks to the quickness)

But yeah, still playing around with it or I’d link the build I’m running.

You will lose to much not going Strength. You are going to play a damage build, but then you don’t use the trait line that gives you the most damage you can get… Doesn’t make much sence, no?

Meanwhile this is what I’ve been trying, pretty standart:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQJASRjMdQXIWFCuhAnIGKCKtLi+owGgHIAwVvFSBA-TpBFABiXGghDBgDPAgS2fggLAAAHBAA

I don’t use Rampage anymore, in the current meta with so many blocks and blinds you can’t dish out the damage, nor the CC that Rampage gives you, so I’ve been prefering the Signet over it. I would prefer Headbut but Berserker will not be part of direct damage builds while FH isn’t baseline (unless you go kamikaze, which can and cannot be fun, depends)

tonny.7580:

warrior is in bad spot ad moend in pvp and pve only good spot is wvw

PvE? Are you crazy? Warrior for PvE is more than a good spot, is part of all metas (dgns, fractals and raids) and one of the most wanted classes for that content

PvP is our problem

I would love to know thse builds
The ones I find in Meta Battle don’t make much my style and I don’t like them. I still prefer direct damage builds, but I found these to have more counters than condi. DH, Reapers, Mesmer and DD can outlast Warrior in a direct damage build because of all the active defences those classes have, plus their burst is higher than ours most of the times (DH are just absord, and I know what I’m talking about I play one myself)

With GS/Hammer the odds are rarely 50% in 1v1 scenarios

Hey guys
This topic isn’t about much, but I feel like sharing today so I want to share my spirit.

I WILL NOT GIVE UP ON WARRIOR!!

This class was my main before HoT, now that HoT is here I came back to my Guardian. I realise how OP DH is and I’m getting kinda bored of it. In PvP just lay traps and shoot bow. DH almost don’t need to dodge really.
I just did a Skyhammer game with my Warrior, we lost because enemy team had a DH that was impossible to kill on Hammer (because DH isn’t good enough, it also need terrain advantage).
I’m tired of DH. I feel good playing Warrior, even though we get rekt every PvP game.

WE NEED CHANGES! Warrior comunity is getting tired of just playing to be a carpet on the floor!!

So that this topic in interelly useless I want to ask something. Let’s imagine Fast Hands gets to be baseline (OH THE DREAM!), what builds would you try? I love the GS/Hammer combo, and I actually tried this build, but without FH, combing Hammer wih GS is difficult and both weapons don’t do that great on their own for us to have 9 secs of weapon swap coldown:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQJASRnMdAdhgVhAmkCEliliAzYA8ACAIruWQI4d4mcfuA-TpBFABCcIAK4CAIeZACeAAts/AAHBAA

Thanks for reading! Hope some of you share my spirit

I’ts sad really. I was maining Warrior before HoT because I was tired of Guardian and I love the Warrior for PvE and PvP (Greatsword got good, I was having a blast before HoT)

After HoT? I’ve tried, I really have, but I just think after all the games “I need to get back to DH, this kitten is useless”. Damage is weaker than most classes because everyone got buffed (DH hts like a truck now, before Medi Guard was pretty on par with Warrior IMO, only won in 1v1 because of all the access to blinds and block Guardian had, which made them able to avoid our key skills. DD also got damage increase, Reapers the same), because of all the blinds, after Berserker Stance is gone is pretty much GG. Rampage is so easy avoided that I think it’s pretty much useless now, better go with Signet or Banner (you will miss all Rampage skills anyway because of the blinds and blocks)

Warrior for PvP is still be stuck to Discipline because of Fast Hands (funny how the line could be replaced with Berserker and improve our damage but that little Minor Trait makes a whole line needed), for damage and support builds you will still need Defence most of the times (if not all), and for damage without Strength it’s GG, for support without Tactics pretty much the same (no Tactics = no support). You can go kamikaze and use Strength Discipline and Berserker (I’ve done it, damage is good but you are more frail than paper).

All this and the lack of active defences (blinds and blocks) and passive defencive buffs (protection and regen) and lack of condi defence if you don’t go Defence line make Warrior such a weak option. All the games I’ve won since HoT I felt carried (okay there was one or 2 games where the enemy players were really bad).

I either stop playing PvP or I will not play Warrior until things change (when I play a class I have to enjoy it in pretty much all game modes, otherwise it will bug the hell out of me not being able to use my character when I want to PvP)

I honestly haven’t rolled Revenant yet because I have been happy with DH and I don’t feel like making a new character and complete everything again..

Hey guys
So since HoT release I have played a lot of Stronghold. It’s pretty much the only PvP I do except when the daily requires Capture or Defending (Defending the gates in Stronghold should count for this archivement IMO). But I haven’t seen much of it in competitive, we still only play Conquest for that (as far as I’ve seen, I don’t have much time to play so I’m my free time I prefer to play than watch the streams, I enjoy them is just lack of time).

So I want to know what the comunity thinks of the new mode. So here are some questions:

-Is it popular?
-Can be better for competitive compared to Conquest? Or just an alternative? (I believe Conquest will remain, but would be nice to see competitions of both modes)
-We don’t see it much yet because it is still recent?
-Changes for the mode, what could improve it?

Thanks for reading

You lose more not having Strength than you gain with the Berserker line
I’ve tried a similiar build, and I’ve tried with Strength instead of Defence, and my conclusion is that going kamikaze Berserker (Strength, Discipline, Berserker with Strength Runes) gets you better results.

Playing GS without Strength is kinda pointless

Nice troll. I liked it

This troll is bad -.-

incisorr.9502:

dh = braindead overpowered as kitten
tempest storm = the hell were u smoking m9
mesmer = still the most op class in the game, needs deletion
thief = dodges hit for 6k dmg and 3shot semi tank builds now, as if they weren’t easy and op enough before
scrapper = made engineers even more cancer and overpowered also hammer 1 spam is kittening overpowered, what a joke, you cant balance this class cuz you want it to do everything at the same time and it does it better than everybody else, just delete it
revenant = nerf the kittened omnislash fiora ulti yurnero ulti kitten and it’ll be fine
reaper = broken as kitten, chill does 20k dmg if u cant instacleanse it and they have 500k hp in shroud, i dont know u guys are so funny from arena net when u get on a smoking trip and you start adding some ridiculous kitten

Dude, you could do a better job trying to troll, this troll is very, very weak

DH OP? LOL WE got traps, one of the weakest utility skill class of the game, and if the are working as intended it is becuase you pretty much wan them to work. kitten is that hard to dodge the trap?Is pretty much a wellor mark, can be dodge, plus you can dodge/block the skills that combk with such trap

D/D Ele reamains meta, ppl have been complaining about those since June Patch, still litle or nothing as been done to fix that spec but DH, wich can be countered and can be kills because it’s a Zerker spec with less defences than Medi Guard. okay that it OP

Dudes expantion has a weak, all classes need tweaking. saying they are OP just because you did 4 games and killed kitten load of ppl is just kitten. When ppl said Shoutbow was powerfull I also went on my Warrior and killed kitten load of ppl every game, was the spec strong? Yes! Was OP? no when ppl learned how to counter it better the spec kinda lost some brigth

The build isn’t OP and took a big hit in the June Patch because for some reason the heal they gave was OP and ANet nerfed it. Because sence I guess.

Now it’s back on top tier IMO because more and more teams have been using it again in tournaments (Go4GW2). Also top Warrior players/streamers like ROM and Tarcis have been streaming a lot of this build. Latelly when I get on ROM channel thats all he uses mostly.

I’ve allways liked the build but didn’t played it since June Patch because I feel in love for GS/Hammer. Yet I might giving a try soon enough

Yet in Metabattle isn’t only the Settler Amulet version, while Tarcis still uses Cele
I’ll leave both build here with Gw2Skills because it’s my favourite:

Settler: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNBMhNYkpDq8wOPgOEDVBl2DxeOkvQXnC4i3ABAA-TpRHwAQLDQ4BAE4IAwb/BAHCABnAAA

(Shield Version uses Leg Specialist and Shield Master)

Cele:http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNBMhNYkpDq8wOPgOEDVBl2DxeOkvQXnC4i3ABAA-TpRHwAEeAABOCAB3fAwhAQwJA4YZAA

Still don’t know wich I prefer

runeblade.7514:

mPascoal.4258:

runeblade.7514:

mPascoal.4258:

runeblade.7514:

Berserker Discipline Defense

That spec sucks

…..in pve

In PvP too

That is because you didn’t slot in Berserker. You probably confused it with arms.

Nah I’m sure I slot Berserker. Arms would have done better

runeblade.7514:

mPascoal.4258:

runeblade.7514:

Berserker Discipline Defense

That spec sucks

…..in pve

In PvP too

runeblade.7514:

Berserker Discipline Defense

That spec sucks

This is about PvP:

I have been trying my hardest to make Berserker work with a build but so far no sucess.
This elite spec tries to cover so much and ens up not being good at anything.

Discipline and Defence have been baseline for most if not all sucessful Warrior builds since forever with some other lines giving the focus of the build depending of taste.
More support defencive playstyle? Tactics
More Power based? Strength
More around crits? Condis? Arms

Eitheir you want it or not Warrior is in this state right now. PvP builds don’t go out of Defence and Discipline. And here lays the problem of the Berserker. It gives no focus. It isn’t a strong condi spec, it isn’t strong for power spec and it’s isn’t exactly strong on defence too. The things Berserker offer IMO have all been ofered by other lines.

Idk at this point if I’m right or not but one thing I know, in every game I played with the Berserker I allways miss the line I’ve taken away to get Berserker.

I have been feeling really weird play this spec. I want to use it for Damage, but Warrior is so locked into Strength/Defence/Discipline for Damage builds that I really miss any of these line when playing Berserker. So far the best I did was playing GS/Hammer with Strength/Discipline/Berserker, but with so many condis and damage flowing in team fights you really miss the second Endure Pain and CI (at least I missed)

Will do more testing, but I most likely will only play the Berserker as a direct damage spec. Might try Berserker/Defence/Discipline but I think we will lose so much damage it might not be even worth it…

I love seeing ppl complain on how DH is bad in PvP when I have been recking so much kitten .

PvP:
Longbow: I don’t say the #3 is a must but the Symbol is. Longbow #4 needs to be like Longbow #3 on Warrior. You need to be able to shoot it backwards. AA projectiles should be a little faster

Virtues: Spear doesn’t give might from minor trait in Virtues. Rest I think they are working at least the tooltip says so and I noticed the regen and protection. Aside from F2, not having F1 and F3 instant cast is almost like a nerf to Guardian. IMO both active effects on F1 and F3 are weaker than on Guardian and having cast-time doesn’t help them at all. F2 with damage Imob and Heal it’s nice. 600 range feels short but the actives on this Virtues when traited are really strong.
Suggestion for DH F2: Make it 1200 range base line, but upgrade the Soaring Devastation so that this trait gives the Imob and damage but make Wing of Resolve 600 range. This way players would have to choose, CC and damage or range.

Traps: Didn’t try them. Never liked traps in this game and this ones don’t change my opinion on anything. Really weak. But it would be hard for Traps to replace Meditaitons on Guardian when it comes to damage specs, and being DH a damage spec I was alreayd expecting traps not having much or none play in PvP.

PvE: Yet to try

Abe Kleine.3568:

InsidiousWaffle.7086:

So yeah, started a perma-death guardian using woodenpotatoes’s hardcore rules, at level 9 right now, planning on running mace/focus for defensive needs and sword/torch for offense. Considering replacing focus w/ shield but that seems unlikely.

Anybody else tried this? If so what was your experience like?

Why would you want to artificially make the game harder for you when you’re already playing a profession with the lowest heavy armor health pool?

That would be like if a paraplegic went out and broke one of their arms on purpose… There’s no reason to do it.

Just chose a non-meta build and you’ll be increasing the difficulty ten-fold

Hum Idk maybe to have some fun lvling? Since this is so easy it gets boring… Idk just an idea since games are supposed to be fun …

Anyway, GS is the best weapon Guardian has for lvling IMO, some mobility and it’s the top DPS in Guardian, so you should go with that. Hammer it’s good.